I bought this card opening day and as i originally purchased a Zotac Trinity black that had a defect i got mine for $1,069 American. Could not be happier. Best part is this card never really reached over 70 degrees at full load Cyberpunk 4k with Rt overdrive did though :). I am glad i bought this card its a winner in my book! Thx for the overview John enjoy!
I loved the review. A few months back, I built a new Proart-based system using both the X670E board and the 4080 super, the Fractal Design North XL, AMD 7800X3D, and 64GB RAM. I used a 420 rad up front to keep everything nice and cool. Even under load, it never gets over 30C. I'm very happy with it.
That sounds like a monster build. I am considering a build in a Fractal North XL. You didn't run into any issues with GPU length with your 420 up front?
Ah man I'm doing a similar build! Except I managed to nab a 9800x3d. I'm also using the fractal north mid tower not the XL. I could only fit a 240mm AIO top mount tho. Hope it's cool enough. Great choice on build
I bought this card on day one. Had a bit of buyers remorse that day speeding $150 over MSRP. Looking back I’m happy with the card and love the design and smaller size.
Hey! Great review, thank you! I got the same card one week ago. The temperatures were pretty similiar to yours (especially during 4K gaming, hotspot ~90C), so I decided to undervolt it a little. Changed to 900mV and 2550 MHZ in MSI Afterburner. No big difference in performance, but the temperatures dropped to 75-80 for hotspot. Personally, for me, it's not loud at all (even at stock), also got no coil whine. Overall, great card and very happy about the purchase!
That's amazing! Thanks for sharing your thermal details and the recommendation to undervolt. That's incredible how much lower the hot spot temps are. I'll have to give it a try.
Still rocking my GTX 1070, together with the rest of the X299 motherboard build from 7 years ago. 😂 Gonna upgrade in near future, but waiting this long I may as well wait till the 15th. Gen Intel CPUs and RTX 50xx in the next 2 - 3 quarters.
@@Amn2k9don’t buy intel ever… it’s crapola. Huge issues with failing CPUs from too much power or heat going to it. Insane they’re having issues like this with all the testing and r and d they do. But? Hmm, they fed up big time. AMD is so much more efficient and are super fast. Nvidia makes a fantastic product tho. I like rt..
Hi John, great review, also loving this card. Doesn't skip a beat in 4k gaming with DLSS, I went from rendering a 1080p - 8 min video on my old card (taking around 10 mins) down to 2mins with this one.
That's amazing! Yeah, if your game supports DLSS, these new 4000 series GPUs are insane. Ohh, very nice on the render speeds. What were you rendering? Videos? Blender?
@@JohnLCharette I've been playing the free game 'Arena Breakout Infinite' on 4K DLSS, and with rendering been using Davinci Resolve to render videos for my youtube channel. Upgraded to studio edition to take advantage of all the AI effects.
Ha! Just watched your latest video with that ProArt builds with dual 4080S'. I also use Davinci, but haven't paid for the Studio version as I'm only using one GPU. I do have an extra 4070 Ti sitting around though... hmmm. Great content, just subbed!
Your timing is amazing. I've had one sitting in my Aussie supplier shopping cart for the whole of this week. This IS the video I've been waiting for. I shall be purchasing. Going from a RTX3070 Eagle OC. The ProArt is $2070 over here haha
Thanks for this, I'm currently considering this card, both as I have limited space, but also the aesthetics are great (I despite RGB nonsense), you covered everything I needed to know.
Thing is half the size of the ASUS TUF 4080 Suoer OC. I had to remove a floor panel to make room for it to fit in my Tower 500. Almost sits on top of the PSU. Stays very cool though. Haven't been able to get it to break over 67⁰C at full load playing CP2077 at max settings
Mines arriving the end of October, ill be putting it into a Coolermaster NR200, it looks like i could fit two slim fans in the bottom to help cool the GPU, ill be using it mainly for 4k gaming, but i also mess around with a bit of Blender 3d as a hobby.
Sounds like a perfect card for that type of build. I went to college for 3D animation, so I always have a soft spot for anyone trying it out. I wish you all the best!
Yes! I completely agree. Thank you so much :) Good luck with your build. I still haven't ventured into the SFF space yet, but I hope to this year. What case are you building in?
Awesome review. Your original review is what made me pull the trigger I bought the 4080 super proart at micro center around last week. No regret here and It’s been a great upgrade from my 3060xc. Thanks for the help👍
You're right. The driver set plays more into stability. If you run the Studio Ready drivers on your Asus Strix, it'll be more stable in applications. My point is that most people think it's a workstation card only, but it can be used like any other 4080 Super.
I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to say that the TUF 4080 was the same price as the TUF 4090. I just didn't have any footage of a TUF 4080 on-hand, so I used my old TUF 4090 footage. I labeled the video so people knew it was a 4090 and not a 4080. I guessing if I hadn't labeled it, people would have said 'Hey, that's a 4090, not a 4080'. My apologies for the confusion.
Gahh, don't beat yourself up. There's always a faster something out there.. technology moves so fast. I see two approaches. Buy something that's in your budget and keep it for 2-3 years, then repeat. Or, buy the latest greatest, sell it in 6-12 months, lose a bunch of money but keep buying the best of the best.
Thank you so much! That's the first time I've received this type of feedback regarding my personality. Btw, the footage on your channel is incredible. What do you shoot with?
@@JohnLCharette ur welcome! And thanks, always using some combination of the newest mavic, inspire, or sony camera. I have like 4 years of footage. Hope to one day start up RUclips again. It's very time consuming so good work and keep it up!
Yup, that's the only downside is that temps/noise can get higher/louder given the smaller form factor. Congrats on your first build. What case are you installing it into?
I wanted to buy this specific model but ended up with a 4070ti super at launch instead because I couldn't find one at a reasonable price. Now this proart model is on sale for 50€ under MSRP plus a 90€ rebate and I'm very tempted to upgrade even though it's just ~18% stronger
Personally, I wouldn't upgrade unless you absolutely need to. I was using a ProArt 4070 Ti for about 6 months before I sold it in a build. It worked really well for all of my 1440p gaming with most high end games averaging 100fps. If you want 4K gaming, or more FPS, then upgrade, but given the 18% increase, you'll probably pay more than 18% to upgrade. Let me know what you decide.
@@JohnLCharette it's ultimately a minor upgrade, but I did also upgrade from 1440p to 4k in the meantime so the bump is more meaningful than it would be at 1440p. Giving myself maximun FOMO, the 50-series is not far away anyway so that is the rational part saying no for me.
I'm working on an 8-week series on building your first custom computer. I'm done the first four.. but want to make sure I can get the other 4 done before I schedule them. Meanwhile, I may have a few iPhone case reviews happening soon. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see?
Finally a reasonably sized 40-Series card. The 40-Series are more power efficient than their 30-Series predecessors yet have coolers that are twice as big for some reason; and its not like those cards were overheating or anything. Also thank you for the review :)
You're welcome! And yes, the original 4080/4090s were over engineered to deal with 450-600w of power. We're seeing a trend of smaller cards coming out.. Asus with this ProArt, MSI with their slim cards for those who don't need crazy heatsinks.
Thanks for the review! Will definitely end up getting it, higher fan speed to maintain lower temperatures doesn't bother me, my monitor speakers are loud so I won't hear it anyways.
I play with my headset on & I don't even hear when my gf is standing right next to me screaming at the top of her lungs trying to get my attention so I definitely won't be hearing the fans on my card 💀
Great! :D THX, but only one small thing :) Fan noise testing. Please move your mic 30cm away and out of the airflow since it impacts noise a lot and also it is more realistic to have it 30cm away with s0 gain since it would simulate how we hear it when standing 1m away on the table or so. Doing it like this you are introducing vibrations, wind noise and also it is just too close! Your test should be mic > mouse click > GPU since that is where we are irl from our PCs :)
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll definitely keep that mind for my next GPU review. I checked out your channel and watched your ITX build. Keep it up. I just subbed!
For me, I purchased it (not here yet) due to the fact that it is the only 4080 it will fit in a micro ITX case. I have one of those for my living room PC and this will become a hand of me down when I upgrade it. For now the living room one has a 4070 TI super. Had I known this card would have fit I would have purchased it in the first place lol. Oh well, 4070 TI supervised plenty fast enough for 4K and considering the fact that doesn't seem to be any negative impact on performance I'm okay with this for my main rig for now.
I used a ProArt 4070 Ti as my main GPU for six months.. it worked perfectly for my casual gaming (Diablo IV). You can also see my full review on that card here: ruclips.net/video/XVB718HgEHM/видео.html
Hi, I have the same videocard and I can't find anyone who produces a compatible water block. Do you know what type of PCB it was produced with? Thank you
There aren't any waterblocks for the ProArt series GPUs, as far as I know. Asus designed the TUF and Strix cards to be waterblock compatible. If you plan on watercooling, I recommend the TUF card instead.
Correct. The one connector goes into the GPU, the other connects to three 8pin PCI-E cables from your power supply. Or, you buy a dedicated 12vhpwr cable that goes from your power supply to your GPU as seen here: ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html
No dual bios, connector faces downwards is awkward to work with. When I got that card I had high hopes, but after receiving and realizing that and also it is loud, not as quiet I hoped for. I end up getting Dual 4070Ti Super virtually the same performance but in even smaller formfactor. Strangely the Asus Dual 4070TiS runs cooler.
Everything you said is correct about this card. If you wanted dual-bios or quieter, Asus has other GPUs that will do that. This is a very simplified card that works well for most. Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it. I have used Asus Dual cards in the past (3070) and it worked really well considering its size.
Im using this gpu for 2,5+ months and love it but since this is is my first massive gpu I forgot about gpu.brace, installed it today so everything good? 😅
What speed does the fan speed run at when gaming? Just so i can gauge how cool the 70ish degrees is. If its only 30% then bumping it up to 50% would presumably reduce temps a little bit more. Think my old 4070ti asus tuf ran at around 40% max fan speed and 65ish degrees
The fans spin at 66%'ish under the heaviest loads.. but that will depend on the game. Could you cool it more if you increased the fans even more.. absolutely... but it gets loud. Your TUF card has much better cooling capabilities due to the larger heatsink.
They are very similar cards, as far as speed. The difference is the cooling. The Noctua focuses on the best thermals with the quietest fans. The ProArt is much much smaller, but is much loud to keep the thermals at the same temps. What's more important to you? Thermals or design?
If you're looking for pure performance, I would get the ROG Strix if it's only 20 euro difference. The ProArt card has it's own unique design and is much smaller.. but because of that, it's a bit louder too. If you can fit a Strix card into your case, do it.
I had this card for a week but I had to return it because of high temperatures on stock clocks (2745mhz-2685mhz efective )in games 68-72C and in Cyberpunk even 75C with full details and raytracing (no path) , fans were exceeding 2000 rpms so it was almost like a hair dryer sound. For this GPU is full size cooling needed if we want enjoy full scale gaming .I wish that this card didn't meet my thermal and fan noise expectation because it`s looking really slim and sexy
@@JohnLCharette I haven't bought it yet but I'm aiming for the TUF non OC version .I hope I won't have excesive the coil whine issue with the new card . ProArt was pretty decent in this regard
Yes, agreed. No coil whine on mine either. The TUF is a good card.. if you have room for it in your case, it will definitely stay cooler given the larger heatsink.
Whats the difference between Asus ProArt 4080 Super and Zotac 4080 super Trinity, if there is a minor difference than why is ProArt expensive then Zotac ?
The core clock speeds are slightly lower, 2565mhz, on the Zotac Trinity. The ProArt is rated at 2610mhz, which is the same as Zotac's AMP line. How much difference will that make? 1-3% slower.. you wouldn't even notice. If you aren't sold on the ProArt design, and want a cheaper card, the Zotac Trinity is an amazing card. I reviewed the Zotac Trinity 4080 a couple years ago, here: ruclips.net/video/PzLAWgDM20s/видео.html
Wow Thank you so much man 🙌🏻🙌🏻 i think that if I am deciding to build a pc now i should wait for 50 series which will most probably be launching in January 2025!
I agree! It's worth waiting. Now, don't be surprised if you have a hard time getting one for a few months. Usually stock is a challenge for the first while.
@@JohnLCharette Absolutely! Waiting for the 50 series is definitely worth it. Let’s just hope the stock doesn’t become a big hassle after the launch. Thanks for the heads-up! 🙌🏻
I just ordered this on Amazon, I didn't realize it was made for creator content instead of gaming. My question to you is, will I need to do any special trickery to get the gaming drivers to work? I already have the nvidia control panel installed, currently using the 3080 on the drivers from the nvidia app. Will putting the new ProArt 4080 in just pick right up on the current drivers I have or will I need to somehow prevent it from trying to use the creator drivers? Will this mean anything else for gaming? Does it still use DLSS 3.5? Frame generation? etc?
No need to make any changes. If you're already using the Game Ready drivers, it should just pick up the card. You'll continue to get notified for new Game Ready drivers. You'd need to manually switch to the Studio drivers. I had no clue Studio drivers existed until a year ago. This card will work perfectly for gaming, no concerns. And yes, you still get all of the DLSS advantages. There's zero performance difference as it uses the same GPU core. Enjoy your new purchase!
Ordered it today together with basically a full pc upgrade (7 7800x3d etc) super hyped for it 😅 upgrading from a ryzen 5 5600 and a vega 56. Definitely will have to get a new monitor next month for it, 1080p 144hz will probably be a cake walk for it
hmm, i clicked your gpu link and got a gigabyte card. Did find the proart but that thing is like $200 more than most all other variants and i'm still not sure what you get for that extra dough.
Sorry about the link. I’ll work on updating those so they go to the correct card. Yeah, I don’t trust some of the retailers on Amazon. For example, on Amazon, the ProArt 4080 Super is $1,899 CAD, whereas I can buy it for $1,499 CAD at my local computer retailer. It shouldn’t be $200 more than other cards. It should be priced identical to the Asus TUF. Search around and you may find one cheaper.
Very glad you often make the comparison with the MSI Super Expert, since i'm hesitating between these two. They are both absolutely gorgeous x)) thanks for the vid !
I'm definitely curious to know which you end up going with. They are both excellent cards with minor differences. I feel like it's more of an aesthetics decision in the end.
I had been using a ProArt 4070 Ti for 6 months before I sold it in a build. I upgraded to this one for the RUclips ;) I had no issues with my 4070 Ti. It worked great in all my games.
I actually haven't tested denoising in Lightroom with any GPUs. I've done the Puget benchmark for Photoshop and GPUs don't make a huge difference. Not sure if it's the same with Lightroom or not.
@@JohnLCharette 1 minute to denoise à picture with my old i5 7600k and now 40sec with my i7 12700kf. Both tests made with gtx 1080ti. Now id like to dp it faster, because i do weddings shootings. Then i dk if i should buy à 4080s or a 4070s. That s why im looking for infos. 40 sec is too much, d like to reduce to 20 sec max. May the power of rtx help me lol
From my experience with Photoshop and most video editing tools is that they are very CPU intensive. They only leverage the GPU when there are very specific tools that use them. Not sure denoising is one of them.
I prefer the ProArt 4080 Super myself. I like the design better and it’s smaller. It’s also much louder though during high loads, which doesn’t bother me but if you want a more silent card, the MSI is more quiet. Perform wise, they are the same. Which one are you leaning towards?
@@JohnLCharette I have one in my shopping cart right now at Newegg. I’ve been debating it for like the last week and then I see your review so I’m strongly thinking about it.
John i have another que, i ordered this GPU and today i'll get it. I saw that there are 2 types of Drivers, Which one should i instal? Ready for game or Studio somehting ^^ ? Thanks btw !!
Very exciting! It's very simple. What's your primary purpose for the GPU? Gaming or workstation apps like the Adobe suite, Davinci Resolve, CAD software? Use the Game-Ready drivers if you're a gamer, use the Studio Ready drivers if you're a workstation user. I use the Studio Ready drivers because I'm a very light gamer, but know that when I do... I haven't had ANY issues using the Studio Ready drivers for games. Most of the time, the Game Ready drivers help with brand new games by fixing small bugs/issues. I'm rarely playing games the day they come out, but if you are.. use those.
@@JohnLCharette Thanks again and always for your reply, and i have 1 more que. I got GPU today and i have Corsair RM1000x now im using GTX 1080ti so i know how to plug i mean which cable but when it comes to 4080S i dont know which cable and where, i need help/advice please ^_^ somehow discord or some video ;P
@@JohnLCharette i’m a big Asus fan but this time fully MSI build. I had first the msi 4070 super slim which was a decent card but 12gb vram was just not enough so decided to pull the tiger on the 4080 super slim. It’s a 3 slot card but the cooling super good on it. Barley goes over 65c during 4k gaming
Very nice! I'd love to plan a full MSI build using their new Project Zero components. I'll definitely consider one of those slim cards. The Gaming X Trio is one of my favourite 4000 series cards.
Paid 936 USD today for mine. Looking forward to putting it under stress I’m content creation and desktop AI. Gaming is CIV VI so this card is a little over kill for that 🤣.
Fix it 2750 MHz by 0.835 V. No high Temps and Fans by 1300 max. I switched it by my 3080 ti aorus master Rly, nice, but i burned much money for 3080 ti, since 1680 Eur cost it. 4080 proart super oc 1059 eur. But i found 4090 too much and now i will wait 7000 gen. This card is enough for davinci and all others.
@@JohnLCharette No, I have three monitors and an LG C3 TV, which I also use as a monitor. Unfortunately, it has always only supported a maximum of three screens, even though it recognized all four. I tried many things and even contacted support, but without success. It seems that the bandwidth was not sufficient for (two 2K 165Hz monitors, one 4K 120Hz TV, and one 32:9 5120x1440 240Hz monitor). Therefore, I have stayed with my old RX 7900 XT
Oh wow.. yeah, that does feel like a lot of bandwidth, especially at those resolutions and refresh rates. I would love one of those 5120x1440 240mhz monitors. #baller ;)
@@JohnLCharette It's a pity because the card actually looks bad ass. I expected so much better from Asus. I suppose the only card worth looking at is Strix and TUF. However.... even though those have silent fans, I read some reviews that they have super loud coil whine. Cant win with these people lol
I can't understand why these asus proart cards are hotter than asus dual cards. I think the radiator design from the dual, where the fins direct the airflow towards the back, outside the case, is simply better than the 3 fan design with the radiator fins move the air up to the cpu and around the case, with the back exit blocked. I think these cards are only sold for their design, there's absolutely no reason anyone would buy such a large model when it's cooling and noise is not better. You get nothing in exchange for the size. And if you have to undervolt for heat or lower the clocks by 30% to lower the coil whine using the Asus software button to reduce coil whine, why not simply buy a cheaper card?
Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of it is the design. I remember testing a Dual 3070 and it was incredible. I used to mine on it and the VRAM were super cool. I assumed it would suck, but it was great. That said, I'm still using one of these ProArt 4080 Super's as my daily driver.. its great. No issues. I don't game much, but the only time I hear it spin up is when I'm rendering my RUclips videos.
@@JohnLCharette Thanks for replying. There's also Asus Prime with 3 fans but there are no reviews with the pcb and radiator exposed. I hope the rtx50 will use parallel radiator fins like the Asus Dual on the 3 fan models. I can't find any reason to blow very hot air from the gpu directly towards the mb (and the ssds which may be mounted there) and inside the case, when it can be ejected outside the case.
Still laws of physics are merciless. This card heats and sounds almost the same as evga 3080ti xc3 ultra, which was smallest of all 3080ti cards. Undervolting sure can help a bit, but still running games with fps uncapped or running the most demanding games at 60fps - constantly gives a feeling that the card is about to die.
I always tell people, only upgrade when you need to. GPUs are so expensive.. there's no point buying something that's overkill. If you can play your games with a GTX 1650, then that's amazing.
@@JohnLCharette yup, I can't say exactly which one is bigger, because this 4090 slim is not such a small card, I previously had a zotac 3090 and this 4090 slim x is a much bigger card.
@@JohnLCharette I have a 4090 slim x, it is exactly the same dimensions as a 4080 super slim x (322x136x62mm) asus pro art is a slightly smaller and more compact card (300 x 120 x 50 mm)
I bought this card opening day and as i originally purchased a Zotac Trinity black that had a defect i got mine for $1,069 American. Could not be happier. Best part is this card never really reached over 70 degrees at full load Cyberpunk 4k with Rt overdrive did though :). I am glad i bought this card its a winner in my book! Thx for the overview John enjoy!
Okay thats impressive my 4080 from PNY doesnt im hit 70 to but the cards is nearly twice as big😁
I'm glad you are enjoying it as much as I am :)
I loved the review. A few months back, I built a new Proart-based system using both the X670E board and the 4080 super, the Fractal Design North XL, AMD 7800X3D, and 64GB RAM. I used a 420 rad up front to keep everything nice and cool. Even under load, it never gets over 30C. I'm very happy with it.
That sounds like a monster build. I am considering a build in a Fractal North XL. You didn't run into any issues with GPU length with your 420 up front?
@JohnLCharette there's plenty of room, I'd be surprised if you had problems,
Ah man I'm doing a similar build! Except I managed to nab a 9800x3d. I'm also using the fractal north mid tower not the XL. I could only fit a 240mm AIO top mount tho. Hope it's cool enough. Great choice on build
@@jerryseeds1148 look forward to seeing the finished product
I bought this card on day one. Had a bit of buyers remorse that day speeding $150 over MSRP. Looking back I’m happy with the card and love the design and smaller size.
I used to have the ProArt 4070 Ti and loved it. I knew when I bought another one, I'd upgrade to this one.. so far, really happy with it.
Hey!
Great review, thank you!
I got the same card one week ago. The temperatures were pretty similiar to yours (especially during 4K gaming, hotspot ~90C), so I decided to undervolt it a little. Changed to 900mV and 2550 MHZ in MSI Afterburner. No big difference in performance, but the temperatures dropped to 75-80 for hotspot.
Personally, for me, it's not loud at all (even at stock), also got no coil whine. Overall, great card and very happy about the purchase!
That's amazing! Thanks for sharing your thermal details and the recommendation to undervolt. That's incredible how much lower the hot spot temps are. I'll have to give it a try.
I just ordered this card two days ago. Should be here tomorrow. I will be upgrading from my Asus Tuf 3080 that I've had for over 3 years.
That's amazing! It should be an awesome upgrade for you. Congrats.
@@JohnLCharette Thank you.
Still rocking my GTX 1070, together with the rest of the X299 motherboard build from 7 years ago. 😂 Gonna upgrade in near future, but waiting this long I may as well wait till the 15th. Gen Intel CPUs and RTX 50xx in the next 2 - 3 quarters.
@@Amn2k9 That would be a great idea. Just wait for the latest to come out.
@@Amn2k9don’t buy intel ever… it’s crapola. Huge issues with failing CPUs from too much power or heat going to it. Insane they’re having issues like this with all the testing and r and d they do. But? Hmm, they fed up big time. AMD is so much more efficient and are super fast. Nvidia makes a fantastic product tho. I like rt..
I was on the fence but now I’m committed 100% love the no rgb too
Amazing! No RGB is the way to go.
Hi John, great review, also loving this card. Doesn't skip a beat in 4k gaming with DLSS, I went from rendering a 1080p - 8 min video on my old card (taking around 10 mins) down to 2mins with this one.
That's amazing! Yeah, if your game supports DLSS, these new 4000 series GPUs are insane. Ohh, very nice on the render speeds. What were you rendering? Videos? Blender?
@@JohnLCharette I've been playing the free game 'Arena Breakout Infinite' on 4K DLSS, and with rendering been using Davinci Resolve to render videos for my youtube channel. Upgraded to studio edition to take advantage of all the AI effects.
Ha! Just watched your latest video with that ProArt builds with dual 4080S'. I also use Davinci, but haven't paid for the Studio version as I'm only using one GPU. I do have an extra 4070 Ti sitting around though... hmmm. Great content, just subbed!
@@JohnLCharette Thanks John, I've just subbed as well, keep up the great content!
Your timing is amazing. I've had one sitting in my Aussie supplier shopping cart for the whole of this week. This IS the video I've been waiting for. I shall be purchasing. Going from a RTX3070 Eagle OC. The ProArt is $2070 over here haha
Amazing! So great to hear that I've made an impact/difference on someone's purchase. That should be a great upgrade from a 3070.
@@JohnLCharette should be here in a few days. Getting SUPER excited
Great review. I hope you product more videos, you are pretty natural in front of the camera.
Thank you so much!
Thanks for this, I'm currently considering this card, both as I have limited space, but also the aesthetics are great (I despite RGB nonsense), you covered everything I needed to know.
Aww. Thanks for the kind words.
How is the coilwhine?
Zero coil whine! Darn. I forgot to mention that in the video.
Non-existent :)
I also have this card - very quiet , lovely sleek card!
Thank you so much for super review and best review over the net.
Awwww, thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it and it helped. What case are you installing it into?
@@JohnLCharette Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S Case
Very nice! I haven't built in a Phanteks case since my P500A, which I really enjoyed.
Perfect review! Thanks a lot !
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video! Gorgeous card
No problem! I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’m loving mine ;)
You can fit yeo proart in case
Keep up the Good Hard work, Great Video.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Thing is half the size of the ASUS TUF 4080 Suoer OC. I had to remove a floor panel to make room for it to fit in my Tower 500. Almost sits on top of the PSU. Stays very cool though. Haven't been able to get it to break over 67⁰C at full load playing CP2077 at max settings
Yeah, those TUF cards are HUGE. I like that Asus has created a comparable size in a much smaller form factor. How do you like that Tower 500 case?
Great video bro keep it up :)
Thank you so much!!
Mines arriving the end of October, ill be putting it into a Coolermaster NR200, it looks like i could fit two slim fans in the bottom to help cool the GPU, ill be using it mainly for 4k gaming, but i also mess around with a bit of Blender 3d as a hobby.
Sounds like a perfect card for that type of build. I went to college for 3D animation, so I always have a soft spot for anyone trying it out. I wish you all the best!
@@JohnLCharette Thanks Blender is a lot of fun.
Great review dude. Well done. 😎
Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful.
Great review! Thanks for doing this! ♥
Aww. Thank you so much for the kind words.
Hi, thanks for your great video😊
I just ordered this card for my SFF builds🎉
I'm sure about this card will be best choice for SFF builds
Yes! I completely agree. Thank you so much :)
Good luck with your build. I still haven't ventured into the SFF space yet, but I hope to this year. What case are you building in?
@@JohnLCharette Hi, there! I'm going to using Lian-Li A4-H2O case for SFF build.
Awesome review. Your original review is what made me pull the trigger I bought the 4080 super proart at micro center around last week. No regret here and It’s been a great upgrade from my 3060xc. Thanks for the help👍
Awww, thank you so much! I'm glad you are enjoying your card as much as I am.
13:17 which 4080 doesn‘t work in games and isn‘t stable in applications? I don‘t see the difference except the size and optic to any other 4080 tbh.
You're right. The driver set plays more into stability. If you run the Studio Ready drivers on your Asus Strix, it'll be more stable in applications. My point is that most people think it's a workstation card only, but it can be used like any other 4080 Super.
At roughly 11:04 your frame title says Asus TUF 4090 and that it is the same price as your 4080. LOL. On what planet are they the same price?
I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to say that the TUF 4080 was the same price as the TUF 4090. I just didn't have any footage of a TUF 4080 on-hand, so I used my old TUF 4090 footage. I labeled the video so people knew it was a 4090 and not a 4080. I guessing if I hadn't labeled it, people would have said 'Hey, that's a 4090, not a 4080'. My apologies for the confusion.
Good timing on the video bought mine yesterday, upgrading from a RX 5700 XT
Ohhh, very nice upgrade! That's a huge jump. You should see a dramatic increase in FPS and quality. How is it so far?
@@JohnLCharette Really happy with it, im just wondering if i shouldve waited for the 5080 haha.
Gahh, don't beat yourself up. There's always a faster something out there.. technology moves so fast. I see two approaches. Buy something that's in your budget and keep it for 2-3 years, then repeat. Or, buy the latest greatest, sell it in 6-12 months, lose a bunch of money but keep buying the best of the best.
@@JohnLCharette Yeah you're right, i just hope i wont get any issue on the gpu with that new asus fiasco
Nice work! Great job keeping your personality consistent throughout the video 🤟
Thank you so much! That's the first time I've received this type of feedback regarding my personality. Btw, the footage on your channel is incredible. What do you shoot with?
@@JohnLCharette ur welcome! And thanks, always using some combination of the newest mavic, inspire, or sony camera. I have like 4 years of footage. Hope to one day start up RUclips again. It's very time consuming so good work and keep it up!
got mine few days ago, first time build a desktop. amazing card, but temps looks a bit high, on benchtest max got 95c.
Yup, that's the only downside is that temps/noise can get higher/louder given the smaller form factor. Congrats on your first build. What case are you installing it into?
Great video brother, very informative and straight to the point 👌
Thank you so much for the kind words.
I wanted to buy this specific model but ended up with a 4070ti super at launch instead because I couldn't find one at a reasonable price. Now this proart model is on sale for 50€ under MSRP plus a 90€ rebate and I'm very tempted to upgrade even though it's just ~18% stronger
Personally, I wouldn't upgrade unless you absolutely need to. I was using a ProArt 4070 Ti for about 6 months before I sold it in a build. It worked really well for all of my 1440p gaming with most high end games averaging 100fps. If you want 4K gaming, or more FPS, then upgrade, but given the 18% increase, you'll probably pay more than 18% to upgrade. Let me know what you decide.
@@JohnLCharette it's ultimately a minor upgrade, but I did also upgrade from 1440p to 4k in the meantime so the bump is more meaningful than it would be at 1440p. Giving myself maximun FOMO, the 50-series is not far away anyway so that is the rational part saying no for me.
Agreed about the 5000 release. I read yesterday that they may release the 5080 before the 5090, so that may be even more approachable.
hoping to replace my 3090 with this, will go nice in the kzx1, set to make a portable powerhouse
Very nice! Yes, this would work really well in a KZX1.
@JohnLCharette how come no video in a while?
I'm working on an 8-week series on building your first custom computer. I'm done the first four.. but want to make sure I can get the other 4 done before I schedule them. Meanwhile, I may have a few iPhone case reviews happening soon. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see?
@@JohnLCharette nothing specifically, here for it all 🙂
Also got one and it’s 👌🏻 mint m8 best decision ever
Finally a reasonably sized 40-Series card. The 40-Series are more power efficient than their 30-Series predecessors yet have coolers that are twice as big for some reason; and its not like those cards were overheating or anything. Also thank you for the review :)
You're welcome! And yes, the original 4080/4090s were over engineered to deal with 450-600w of power. We're seeing a trend of smaller cards coming out.. Asus with this ProArt, MSI with their slim cards for those who don't need crazy heatsinks.
Well the ProArt 4080 Super does run quite hot and loud though. The size is pretty reasonable on all other 40 cards
Thanks for the review! Will definitely end up getting it, higher fan speed to maintain lower temperatures doesn't bother me, my monitor speakers are loud so I won't hear it anyways.
Same! Works for me :) I hope you love it as much as I do.
I play with my headset on & I don't even hear when my gf is standing right next to me screaming at the top of her lungs trying to get my attention so I definitely won't be hearing the fans on my card 💀
Same! haha
Great! :D THX, but only one small thing :) Fan noise testing. Please move your mic 30cm away and out of the airflow since it impacts noise a lot and also it is more realistic to have it 30cm away with s0 gain since it would simulate how we hear it when standing 1m away on the table or so. Doing it like this you are introducing vibrations, wind noise and also it is just too close! Your test should be mic > mouse click > GPU since that is where we are irl from our PCs :)
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll definitely keep that mind for my next GPU review. I checked out your channel and watched your ITX build. Keep it up. I just subbed!
@@JohnLCharette thx man! Yeah will be building another one in same case just high end components :) basically a xbox replacement size wise.
For me, I purchased it (not here yet) due to the fact that it is the only 4080 it will fit in a micro ITX case. I have one of those for my living room PC and this will become a hand of me down when I upgrade it. For now the living room one has a 4070 TI super. Had I known this card would have fit I would have purchased it in the first place lol.
Oh well, 4070 TI supervised plenty fast enough for 4K and considering the fact that doesn't seem to be any negative impact on performance I'm okay with this for my main rig for now.
I used a ProArt 4070 Ti as my main GPU for six months.. it worked perfectly for my casual gaming (Diablo IV). You can also see my full review on that card here: ruclips.net/video/XVB718HgEHM/видео.html
@@JohnLCharette couple that with a 5800X3D and you can run Max settings at 4K on any game.
Will this GPU paired with a Ryzen 7 7700X be good and balanced combo för gaming?
Yes!! Absolutely. That would be an incredible combo for gaming.
@@JohnLCharette Thank you for answer 😊🙏
Hi, I have the same videocard and I can't find anyone who produces a compatible water block. Do you know what type of PCB it was produced with? Thank you
There aren't any waterblocks for the ProArt series GPUs, as far as I know. Asus designed the TUF and Strix cards to be waterblock compatible. If you plan on watercooling, I recommend the TUF card instead.
The cable in the box has 3 connectors on one end, and one connector on the other?
Correct. The one connector goes into the GPU, the other connects to three 8pin PCI-E cables from your power supply. Or, you buy a dedicated 12vhpwr cable that goes from your power supply to your GPU as seen here: ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html
Asus is my favourite gpu brand the build quality is awesome on my tuf 4080 great video thanks! Give this guy a sub guys great content here
Thank you so much for the sub! Yes, I agree. Now that EVGA is gone, they are my favourite as well.
No dual bios, connector faces downwards is awkward to work with. When I got that card I had high hopes, but after receiving and realizing that and also it is loud, not as quiet I hoped for. I end up getting Dual 4070Ti Super virtually the same performance but in even smaller formfactor. Strangely the Asus Dual 4070TiS runs cooler.
Everything you said is correct about this card. If you wanted dual-bios or quieter, Asus has other GPUs that will do that. This is a very simplified card that works well for most. Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it. I have used Asus Dual cards in the past (3070) and it worked really well considering its size.
Im using this gpu for 2,5+ months and love it but since this is is my first massive gpu I forgot about gpu.brace, installed it today so everything good? 😅
No worries, your card is okay. Thankfully ProArt are considered smaller cards compared to an Asus TUF or Strix. You're safe.
@@JohnLCharette uff, thanks bro!
What speed does the fan speed run at when gaming? Just so i can gauge how cool the 70ish degrees is.
If its only 30% then bumping it up to 50% would presumably reduce temps a little bit more.
Think my old 4070ti asus tuf ran at around 40% max fan speed and 65ish degrees
The fans spin at 66%'ish under the heaviest loads.. but that will depend on the game. Could you cool it more if you increased the fans even more.. absolutely... but it gets loud. Your TUF card has much better cooling capabilities due to the larger heatsink.
Why this model is cheaper than 4070ti Super,help
Oh wow.. it shouldn't be. I would buy it, if you can find it cheaper than the 4070 Ti Super.
I'm quite confused between the 4080 SUPER Noctua OC Edition and 4080 SUPER ProArt 🙉
They are very similar cards, as far as speed. The difference is the cooling. The Noctua focuses on the best thermals with the quietest fans. The ProArt is much much smaller, but is much loud to keep the thermals at the same temps. What's more important to you? Thermals or design?
@@JohnLCharette I don't have enough room to buy a larger size card
@@JohnLCharette Sorry I'm using google translate
Both Noctua and ProArt are similar size.. the difference is that the Noctua is a bit longer and WAY thicker.
@@JohnLCharette Thank you for your comment +1 sub, have a good day
How many VRM phases? How many heatpipes and what's the diameter of the heatpipes?
Not sure on the VRM phases. Five heat pipes. I'd roughly guess 1/4" diameter.
only 20 euro gap between Asus Rog Strix 4070ti Super model Is it worth it to get this model ?
If you're looking for pure performance, I would get the ROG Strix if it's only 20 euro difference. The ProArt card has it's own unique design and is much smaller.. but because of that, it's a bit louder too. If you can fit a Strix card into your case, do it.
@JohnLCharette rog one is 4070 ti super and pro art 4080 super. also is proart model game performance normal like other 4080s ?
Yes! The ProArt 4080 Super will perform the same as other 4080 Supers.
4080 super
I had this card for a week but I had to return it because of high temperatures on stock clocks (2745mhz-2685mhz efective )in games 68-72C and in Cyberpunk even 75C with full details and raytracing (no path) , fans were exceeding 2000 rpms so it was almost like a hair dryer sound. For this GPU is full size cooling needed if we want enjoy full scale gaming .I wish that this card didn't meet my thermal and fan noise expectation because it`s looking really slim and sexy
Yeah, it can definitely be noisy. What card did you replace it with?
@@JohnLCharette I haven't bought it yet but I'm aiming for the TUF non OC version .I hope I won't have excesive the coil whine issue with the new card . ProArt was pretty decent in this regard
Yes, agreed. No coil whine on mine either. The TUF is a good card.. if you have room for it in your case, it will definitely stay cooler given the larger heatsink.
Whats the difference between Asus ProArt 4080 Super and Zotac 4080 super Trinity, if there is a minor difference than why is ProArt expensive then Zotac ?
The core clock speeds are slightly lower, 2565mhz, on the Zotac Trinity. The ProArt is rated at 2610mhz, which is the same as Zotac's AMP line. How much difference will that make? 1-3% slower.. you wouldn't even notice. If you aren't sold on the ProArt design, and want a cheaper card, the Zotac Trinity is an amazing card. I reviewed the Zotac Trinity 4080 a couple years ago, here: ruclips.net/video/PzLAWgDM20s/видео.html
Wow Thank you so much man 🙌🏻🙌🏻 i think that if I am deciding to build a pc now i should wait for 50 series which will most probably be launching in January 2025!
I agree! It's worth waiting. Now, don't be surprised if you have a hard time getting one for a few months. Usually stock is a challenge for the first while.
@@JohnLCharette Absolutely! Waiting for the 50 series is definitely worth it. Let’s just hope the stock doesn’t become a big hassle after the launch. Thanks for the heads-up! 🙌🏻
I just ordered this on Amazon, I didn't realize it was made for creator content instead of gaming. My question to you is, will I need to do any special trickery to get the gaming drivers to work? I already have the nvidia control panel installed, currently using the 3080 on the drivers from the nvidia app. Will putting the new ProArt 4080 in just pick right up on the current drivers I have or will I need to somehow prevent it from trying to use the creator drivers? Will this mean anything else for gaming? Does it still use DLSS 3.5? Frame generation? etc?
No need to make any changes. If you're already using the Game Ready drivers, it should just pick up the card. You'll continue to get notified for new Game Ready drivers. You'd need to manually switch to the Studio drivers. I had no clue Studio drivers existed until a year ago. This card will work perfectly for gaming, no concerns. And yes, you still get all of the DLSS advantages. There's zero performance difference as it uses the same GPU core. Enjoy your new purchase!
Ordered it today together with basically a full pc upgrade (7 7800x3d etc) super hyped for it 😅 upgrading from a ryzen 5 5600 and a vega 56. Definitely will have to get a new monitor next month for it, 1080p 144hz will probably be a cake walk for it
Vega 56! I never did try one of those. I hear they were amazing for their time. Which monitor are you leaning towards?
hmm, i clicked your gpu link and got a gigabyte card. Did find the proart but that thing is like $200 more than most all other variants and i'm still not sure what you get for that extra dough.
Sorry about the link. I’ll work on updating those so they go to the correct card. Yeah, I don’t trust some of the retailers on Amazon. For example, on Amazon, the ProArt 4080 Super is $1,899 CAD, whereas I can buy it for $1,499 CAD at my local computer retailer. It shouldn’t be $200 more than other cards. It should be priced identical to the Asus TUF. Search around and you may find one cheaper.
@@JohnLCharette Oh yeah, i am searching :) no worries about that link - just thought to let you know.
Hey did you also undervolt the card?
I have not, but I hear it's common practice. Are you considering undervolting it?
Yeah i did. so far working great :)
Very glad you often make the comparison with the MSI Super Expert, since i'm hesitating between these two.
They are both absolutely gorgeous x)) thanks for the vid !
I'm definitely curious to know which you end up going with. They are both excellent cards with minor differences. I feel like it's more of an aesthetics decision in the end.
Rock on!
I really wanted one of these, couldnt afford it. Settled on a 4070ti instead :/
I had been using a ProArt 4070 Ti for 6 months before I sold it in a build. I upgraded to this one for the RUclips ;) I had no issues with my 4070 Ti. It worked great in all my games.
Nice review ;)
Thank you so much!
@@JohnLCharette and what about this card with lightroom in order to denoise pictures ?is it by farther better than 4070s ?
I actually haven't tested denoising in Lightroom with any GPUs. I've done the Puget benchmark for Photoshop and GPUs don't make a huge difference. Not sure if it's the same with Lightroom or not.
@@JohnLCharette 1 minute to denoise à picture with my old i5 7600k and now 40sec with my i7 12700kf.
Both tests made with gtx 1080ti. Now id like to dp it faster, because i do weddings shootings. Then i dk if i should buy à 4080s or a 4070s. That s why im looking for infos. 40 sec is too much, d like to reduce to 20 sec max. May the power of rtx help me lol
From my experience with Photoshop and most video editing tools is that they are very CPU intensive. They only leverage the GPU when there are very specific tools that use them. Not sure denoising is one of them.
Did you undervolt it 4080 ?
No, I haven't undervolted it, but I hear that's very common.
Hihi. This vs the msi expert? You did both
I prefer the ProArt 4080 Super myself. I like the design better and it’s smaller. It’s also much louder though during high loads, which doesn’t bother me but if you want a more silent card, the MSI is more quiet. Perform wise, they are the same. Which one are you leaning towards?
🙂 neat looking card, just never try to RMA it with Asus if its a dud
Coilwhine?
Absolutely none. Very silent card until the fans kick in at 50%+
nICE REVIEW..THANK YOU :)
Thank you very much! Are you considering buying one?
@@JohnLCharette I have one in my shopping cart right now at Newegg. I’ve been debating it for like the last week and then I see your review so I’m strongly thinking about it.
🤣🤣🤣
Great looking gpu, the size is great! I'm about to build in a hyte y70 touch with a strix 4080 super oc gpu and a 14900k.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Very nice! That'll be a sick build. Let me know how it goes and post a link to any pictures.
Im a gamer and only gamer xD so is this GPU good enough or its the lowest in their rnking system? ^^
It'll work perfectly for a gaming.. nothing to worry about.
@@JohnLCharette thank you John 😇
John i have another que, i ordered this GPU and today i'll get it. I saw that there are 2 types of Drivers, Which one should i instal? Ready for game or Studio somehting ^^ ? Thanks btw !!
Very exciting! It's very simple. What's your primary purpose for the GPU? Gaming or workstation apps like the Adobe suite, Davinci Resolve, CAD software? Use the Game-Ready drivers if you're a gamer, use the Studio Ready drivers if you're a workstation user. I use the Studio Ready drivers because I'm a very light gamer, but know that when I do... I haven't had ANY issues using the Studio Ready drivers for games. Most of the time, the Game Ready drivers help with brand new games by fixing small bugs/issues. I'm rarely playing games the day they come out, but if you are.. use those.
@@JohnLCharette Thanks again and always for your reply, and i have 1 more que. I got GPU today and i have Corsair RM1000x now im using GTX 1080ti so i know how to plug i mean which cable but when it comes to 4080S i dont know which cable and where, i need help/advice please ^_^ somehow discord or some video ;P
I almost bought this but got the msi 4080super gaming x slim for the better cooler
I haven't tried any of the new MSI slim cards yet. Are you happy with it, so far?
@@JohnLCharette i’m a big Asus fan but this time fully MSI build. I had first the msi 4070 super slim which was a decent card but 12gb vram was just not enough so decided to pull the tiger on the 4080 super slim. It’s a 3 slot card but the cooling super good on it. Barley goes over 65c during 4k gaming
Very nice! I'd love to plan a full MSI build using their new Project Zero components. I'll definitely consider one of those slim cards. The Gaming X Trio is one of my favourite 4000 series cards.
Any cool whine on the MSI card?
@@testchannel66 zero. Also it super quiet.
Paid 936 USD today for mine. Looking forward to putting it under stress I’m content creation and desktop AI. Gaming is CIV VI so this card is a little over kill for that 🤣.
Good deal! Yeah, it'll crush Civ VI. Let me know what you think once you've put it through your stress tests.
great video
i got a gigabyte windforce v2
And, do you love it?
i bought one yesterday
Congrats! What case are you putting it into?
I just ordered this card. I wonder if it’ll be better than my current 3060ti 😂
Oh yeah, it'll crush it! Congrats. Let me know how you like it.
Fix it 2750 MHz by 0.835 V. No high Temps and Fans by 1300 max.
I switched it by my 3080 ti aorus master
Rly, nice, but i burned much money for 3080 ti, since 1680 Eur cost it.
4080 proart super oc 1059 eur.
But i found 4090 too much and now i will wait 7000 gen.
This card is enough for davinci and all others.
Great suggestion on clock speeds and unblocking it. I love mine!
My Asus ProArt 4080 Super did not support my 4 monitors, so I returned it.
Did you require two HDMI ports, is that why?
@@JohnLCharette No, I have three monitors and an LG C3 TV, which I also use as a monitor. Unfortunately, it has always only supported a maximum of three screens, even though it recognized all four. I tried many things and even contacted support, but without success. It seems that the bandwidth was not sufficient for (two 2K 165Hz monitors, one 4K 120Hz TV, and one 32:9 5120x1440 240Hz monitor). Therefore, I have stayed with my old RX 7900 XT
Oh wow.. yeah, that does feel like a lot of bandwidth, especially at those resolutions and refresh rates. I would love one of those 5120x1440 240mhz monitors. #baller ;)
Terrible noise from that card. At 30% immediately a scratching sound coming from the bearings
Haha yeah, it can be a bit loud compared to other cards with better cooling. That's what you get when you decrease the footprint.
@@JohnLCharette It's a pity because the card actually looks bad ass. I expected so much better from Asus. I suppose the only card worth looking at is Strix and TUF. However.... even though those have silent fans, I read some reviews that they have super loud coil whine. Cant win with these people lol
I can't understand why these asus proart cards are hotter than asus dual cards. I think the radiator design from the dual, where the fins direct the airflow towards the back, outside the case, is simply better than the 3 fan design with the radiator fins move the air up to the cpu and around the case, with the back exit blocked. I think these cards are only sold for their design, there's absolutely no reason anyone would buy such a large model when it's cooling and noise is not better. You get nothing in exchange for the size.
And if you have to undervolt for heat or lower the clocks by 30% to lower the coil whine using the Asus software button to reduce coil whine, why not simply buy a cheaper card?
Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of it is the design. I remember testing a Dual 3070 and it was incredible. I used to mine on it and the VRAM were super cool. I assumed it would suck, but it was great. That said, I'm still using one of these ProArt 4080 Super's as my daily driver.. its great. No issues. I don't game much, but the only time I hear it spin up is when I'm rendering my RUclips videos.
@@JohnLCharette Thanks for replying. There's also Asus Prime with 3 fans but there are no reviews with the pcb and radiator exposed. I hope the rtx50 will use parallel radiator fins like the Asus Dual on the 3 fan models. I can't find any reason to blow very hot air from the gpu directly towards the mb (and the ssds which may be mounted there) and inside the case, when it can be ejected outside the case.
Still laws of physics are merciless. This card heats and sounds almost the same as evga 3080ti xc3 ultra, which was smallest of all 3080ti cards. Undervolting sure can help a bit, but still running games with fps uncapped or running the most demanding games at 60fps - constantly gives a feeling that the card is about to die.
Yup, it's quite loud. I haven't gamed on mine much, but I do certainly hear it spin up when I do. That's a good comparison though, to an EVGA XC3.
Damn...im still using Gtx 1650
I always tell people, only upgrade when you need to. GPUs are so expensive.. there's no point buying something that's overkill. If you can play your games with a GTX 1650, then that's amazing.
MSI 4080 SLIM X!
Yes! That's a direct competitor to this product. I haven't had one to test it yet. Do you have one?
@@JohnLCharette yup, I can't say exactly which one is bigger, because this 4090 slim is not such a small card, I previously had a zotac 3090 and this 4090 slim x is a much bigger card.
@@JohnLCharette I have a 4090 slim x, it is exactly the same dimensions as a 4080 super slim x (322x136x62mm)
asus pro art is a slightly smaller and more compact card (300 x 120 x 50 mm)
Oh wow. I didn't realize they made a 4090 slim! That's incredible. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the detailed information.
Me too
I want to sell my PNY 4080S for this
Interesting, I'm curious why you want to switch? They'll perform pretty much the same.
@@JohnLCharette the looks of it…
Like the video, the hands flying everywhere is making me motion sick.
My hands are very vocal ;)
35% slower than a 4090 it's optimistic
I pulled those numbers from my own actual test data. I've tested and reviewed six 4090s and two 4080 Super's.