Reverse Flash's hypnotic frequency would be stupid and a cop out if he wasn't already an extremely petty villain who would do some shit like that anyway.
debatable .. i mean i'm glad but dont you thinks its too much " jail free" , the story as mor deep and have more meaning if we saw wally make an actual human mistake ( sometine you can cause horrible accident)
Idk I feel like after the many years Wally had been filling Barry’s shoes since he died in crisis on infinite earths, he made the suit and the identity of the flash his own
I'll be honest: I prefer Wally having his Rebirth costume over the decision to just give him back his pre-Flashpoint outfit. it's nice, but the Rebirth costume was a perfect fusion of his Kid Flash and Flash legacy, and this honestly feels like a regression from that.
Tbh when Wally was using his white eyes suit was when he cemented himself as a formidable Flash so even if it is similar to Barry's, it's a suit that Wally had earned and made his own. His rebirth suit kinda feels more like a regression to his kid flash days if anything in my opinion. Plus i kinda really love the white eyes suit so i kinda have a biased feeling towards it so my point might not have any credibility 😂
@@fightingmedialounge519 In this case, retconning Wally back into the Wally of before with a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events :)
Back in the late 80's/ early 90's, I began to love Wally West as Flash. I'm glad he's back to being a hero. Incidentally, I love Jay Garrick and Barry Allen, too. I didn't like how Wally briefly tarnished an heroic legacy.
Wally: Roy! You're not dead! Now get rid of that dumb trucker hat! As much as I love his original Flash outfit, I actually kinda preferred his Rebirth costume. I appreciate that this retcon didn't mess with the previous retcon. It shouldn't have been necessary in the first place (ahem Tom King), but I'm glad it happened.
@@driveasandwich6734 in that it established Wally didn't kill anyone, as oppose to the original retcon that said he did, but explained why he covered it up.
@@driveasandwich6734 except I never said it was incompatible. I said messed since previous retcon operates off the belief that he did, and this retcon disproves disbelief. This means the second changes the context of the first retcon as well as heroes in crisis.
It's been a really fun run so far, Adams has really surpassed what people expected of him (not that it was positive or negative he's fairly new to writing comics coming more from animation and stuff)
@@lifeinjersey9846 Yeah Flashpoint was cool but it unfortunately led to New 52 and New 52 messed up a lot of things for the worse. I thought everything was going to be good again with DC Rebirth and it started off good but once the Dark Knight Metal started DC dipped in quality again and a lot of characters became unlikable again. I hope comics in general become good again cause I'm really not liking comics in general right now and they are starting to become not worth the prices. For me personally Marvel hasn't been good since Civil War 2 and DC hasn't been good since rebirth. I just hope their quality improves soon. At least the comic movies and shows are doing good.
@@bw-xv2rz Yeah Wally was good throughout Rebirth. The rebirth comics were good but once Dark Knight Metal started that was when DC comics in general dipped in quality and DC characters began to suck again in my opinion.
@@daraghokane4236 I believe you missed the whole video saying that wasn’t Wally, but Thawn and savitar manipulate Wally’s actions that caused all that stuff to happen. But to each there own man. Im glad the OG Wally is back, can’t wait to see what happens next. Fastest man alive!!- Wally West
I knew since it was leaked that Wally would be the culprit that he'd eventually be revealed to be innocent somehow. Either clones or mind control. The real tragedy is all the D Listers who got killed off in the event and nobody will ever bother bringing back.
@@Tyler_W i still wished they would call him something to do with time like timeless flash or something like that to represent that he is the same flash from before while also having a distinct enough to allow both him and barry to have distinct superhero names
I think BARRY has the STRONGEST WILL POWER in DC. Imagine living with all the traumas and remembering them all, THE FLASHPOINT, can save his mother but will lose everyone else. But at the end of the day he keeps a SMILE on his face.
The irony of seeing Arris wearing a flash T-Shirt while reviewing a flash comic. While I'm watching it on my TV while wearing the same flash T-Shirt 👕 😁⚡
I'm glad they retconned Wally's "Heroes In Crisis" fiasco. He's been my favorite Flash since he first fought Savitar in mid 90s which made me a fan of Wally in the first place. Savitar is also my favorite Flash villain so I'm glad they also retconned his lame death at the hands of Barry Allen who Savitar was more powerful than
was Savitar more powerful than Barry Allen in Flash: Rebirth? somehow I'm doubtful of that. I feel like even without the Black Flash's powers Savitar would have lost in a 1 on 1 fight with no BS writing.
@@sakaririchard8810 Flash: Rebirth was BS writing. Wally is more powerful than Barry and Savitar was able to defeat the entire Flash family, even Wally. Wally had to trick Savitar in order to defeat him so Barry killing him was bullsh!t. It was only done to prop up Barry to make it seem like he was the most powerful Flash at the time, which he wasn't. Sometimes writers just write utter bullsh!t like when Spiderman defeated one of Galactus' heralds with brute force
I always thought it would make sense if the Psycho Pirate was manipulating events from behind the scenes, especially given his little history with Flashes. But what's most important is that Wally is finally back to form.
The kinda of mess got me out of active reading for a while… I was back with New 52 because it was a pretty clean slate but then they retconned that too and it became a mess again.
Glad Wally has his classic white-eye cowl suit again. Also Professor Zoom retconning everything and even Hunter Zolomon’s origin, to him becoming the second Zoom.
Wally west was my flash. Barry was dead before I was born. I felt betrayed as a fan when barry returned. Nothing against barry but dc completely disregarded and disrespected wally
Remember that time you became enemies with Barry? It was me, Wally. I used the power of suggestion to put you at odds with your mentor! - The Reverse Flash, probably
i kinda like that they retconed reverse flash doing that because that still means that he said that he did it even though he didn’t. meaning that not only is he doing all these terrible things to the flash family but also he’s lying about doing some things as well just to make them hate him more. he wants to be their villain and will do anything to reach that goal
The speed force explosion is what killed everyone, but what made Wally try to (unheroically) cover it all up? IRL it's because of Tom King's bad writing, but in universe it's because of what, Thawne's hypnotic suggestion?
I think they put him in the 90's costume, so people would start taking him seriously as the Flash because I have seen people calling Wally kid flash on DC's social media accounts even though he was wearing his Flash Rebirth costume in those posts
Finally, so excited, need DC to continue legacy characters comic runs for the entire DCU. If youre interested I have videos of The Flash on my channel!
williamson’s retcon is still valid tho this just fixes the other half of the problem. like williamson’s covers the weird covering it up, and this covers the weird explanation of speed force powers
I'm gonna miss the maroon and silver Wally suit. It could get reworked in spots but the basic design is nice. I figured by now a speedster would've gone sleeveless or at least short sleeved like the new Future Barry of the new Year One story.
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“Remember when Wally Killed all those people Barry?”
“And he didn’t tell anyone and framed Booster and Harley?”
“It was me Barry!”
Get a life thorn!
Gem
“I talked. Just. Like. THIIIIIISS!!”
@@demi-fiendoftime3825 Do you mean Thawne?
@@breadifiedtoast yes
Reverse Flash's hypnotic frequency would be stupid and a cop out if he wasn't already an extremely petty villain who would do some shit like that anyway.
The fact he got shot in the head and decided to just vibrate quick enough not to die gets me to this day 🤣 man just laughs at logic lmao
Truth!
IT WAS ME BARRY
@@Jay_Rodimus "Remember when you were making out with your first girlfriend and she came right as she touched your leg"
@@kushtheone4940 Giggity
Before: Look at how they massacred my boy!
Now: Look at how they saved my boy!!
As veteran flash dan i approve this 👌
What did they do 🥺?
@@lasthope3237 they make Wally become killer in heroes on crisis event
@@lasthope3237 read or watch heroes on crisis story' on RUclips if you want more know
@@lasthope3237 did you watch the video just now?
This was a most welcome retcon and done in a fairly realistic method (for comics anyway).
Tom king must be jailed and brought up on charges for what he did to Wally in heroes
debatable .. i mean i'm glad but dont you thinks its too much " jail free" , the story as mor deep and have more meaning if we saw wally make an actual human mistake ( sometine you can cause horrible accident)
They should make a dc parody of the Agatha Harkness song
"It was Eobard all along"
well we have "It was me barry"
Underrated af 😂
@@Angel-tr5ye I'm dead 💀🤣
well it was more like savitar this time
@@Angel-tr5ye not this shit again💀
I’ll miss wally’s rebirth costume, because it separated him from Barry’s image, but this direction does make me happy too
They could've brought back the og cowl suit but have the yellow on the suit be silver
For me the perfect would be the Rebirth suit but with yellow lighting
Idk I feel like after the many years Wally had been filling Barry’s shoes since he died in crisis on infinite earths, he made the suit and the identity of the flash his own
Okay. So now it's, "It was me, Wally. It was me".
I'll be honest: I prefer Wally having his Rebirth costume over the decision to just give him back his pre-Flashpoint outfit. it's nice, but the Rebirth costume was a perfect fusion of his Kid Flash and Flash legacy, and this honestly feels like a regression from that.
Tbh when Wally was using his white eyes suit was when he cemented himself as a formidable Flash so even if it is similar to Barry's, it's a suit that Wally had earned and made his own. His rebirth suit kinda feels more like a regression to his kid flash days if anything in my opinion. Plus i kinda really love the white eyes suit so i kinda have a biased feeling towards it so my point might not have any credibility 😂
I agree with you, and i always think that the Rebirth suit its all Wally West, while the 90 suits its Barry's.
3:20-4:55 I can live with this retcon because it's something Eobard would definitely do.
His pettiness is hilarious to us
Consistency and continuity. These are the things that keep me, as a fan, engaged
Wouldn't a retcon be the opposite of that.
@@fightingmedialounge519 In this case, retconning Wally back into the Wally of before with a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events :)
@@eddieramos6664 yeah, but it's also changing established fate of other characters.
@@fightingmedialounge519 We'll just have to wait and find out what happens with that :)
Too bad consistency and continuity is seldom done right in comics, especially DC, (though I still love it)
Back in the late 80's/ early 90's, I began to love Wally West as Flash. I'm glad he's back to being a hero.
Incidentally, I love Jay Garrick and Barry Allen, too. I didn't like how Wally briefly tarnished an heroic legacy.
Wally: Roy! You're not dead! Now get rid of that dumb trucker hat!
As much as I love his original Flash outfit, I actually kinda preferred his Rebirth costume. I appreciate that this retcon didn't mess with the previous retcon. It shouldn't have been necessary in the first place (ahem Tom King), but I'm glad it happened.
It sort of did.
@@fightingmedialounge519 Mess with the previous retcon? How?
@@driveasandwich6734 in that it established Wally didn't kill anyone, as oppose to the original retcon that said he did, but explained why he covered it up.
@@fightingmedialounge519 But this isn't incompatible. He still thought he did, and Zoom could still have made him decide to cover up the "accident".
@@driveasandwich6734 except I never said it was incompatible. I said messed since previous retcon operates off the belief that he did, and this retcon disproves disbelief. This means the second changes the context of the first retcon as well as heroes in crisis.
I’m so happy Wally is getting his groove back, thanks for covering these issues I’ve been out of the loop.
It's been a really fun run so far, Adams has really surpassed what people expected of him (not that it was positive or negative he's fairly new to writing comics coming more from animation and stuff)
Writer 1: “How can we make Reverse Flash even MORE insanely powerful?”
Writer 2: “What if we basically gave him mind control?”
DC: “Hey, this is a great idea! Let’s fix some more stupid stuff we did with this.”
They did that before with Green Lantern: Rebirth explaining why Hal became Parallax by saying he was using Hal and not him going 🤪
So glad that Wally got a fresh new start. His new run on the flash has been so much fun while still being emotional
Hypnotic frequency is so OP it makes sense that reverse flash would use it to manipulate people
I haven't liked Wally since DC Rebirth so hopefully this fixes things.
That's what sucks for people like me who grew up with Wally as the flash not Barry. As cool as Flashpoint was it ruined Wally
@@lifeinjersey9846 Yeah Flashpoint was cool but it unfortunately led to New 52 and New 52 messed up a lot of things for the worse. I thought everything was going to be good again with DC Rebirth and it started off good but once the Dark Knight Metal started DC dipped in quality again and a lot of characters became unlikable again. I hope comics in general become good again cause I'm really not liking comics in general right now and they are starting to become not worth the prices. For me personally Marvel hasn't been good since Civil War 2 and DC hasn't been good since rebirth. I just hope their quality improves soon. At least the comic movies and shows are doing good.
He was great in Titans Rebirth, though? Tom King just messed it all up in Heroes in Crisis like the jackass he is.
@@bw-xv2rz Yeah Wally was good throughout Rebirth. The rebirth comics were good but once Dark Knight Metal started that was when DC comics in general dipped in quality and DC characters began to suck again in my opinion.
What would happen if this version of Wally West Flash fought against the Flash villain Famine?
Mans really just said "It was Thawne" at the board meeting and they agreed
About time DC comics gave Wally west justice and seeing him be the main flash again made me so happy. ;)
“It was me Barry, I spoke to you in super sonic speed so it seemed like killed multiple heroes in a single flourish!”
Finally the OG Wally West is back!
Hell ya!
Wally killed women and children and framed his friend. he is official to evil to join the rouges.
@@daraghokane4236
I believe you missed the whole video saying that wasn’t Wally, but Thawn and savitar manipulate Wally’s actions that caused all that stuff to happen.
But to each there own man.
Im glad the OG Wally is back, can’t wait to see what happens next.
Fastest man alive!!- Wally West
@@Kevin-Hdz ya but behind zooms ear was mr mkyspitlic saying do this. Also nobody gave mind controlled villains a pass
New writers are still sweeping up the mess that Tom King made.
It's as much of Dan Didio's fault as it is Tom King's
I knew since it was leaked that Wally would be the culprit that he'd eventually be revealed to be innocent somehow. Either clones or mind control. The real tragedy is all the D Listers who got killed off in the event and nobody will ever bother bringing back.
@@abyssal113 Maybe some day, friend. Don't give up faith. Hey, maybe they'll fix Tim Drake next.
All these stories have to be approved by editors so basically dc is fixing the mistake they allowed to happen
I actually liked Wally's rebirth costume and white lightning 😞
Me too. Distinguishes him from Barry since he's back now. Might have been a good idea to give one of them a new name, though.
@@Tyler_W i still wished they would call him something to do with time like timeless flash or something like that to represent that he is the same flash from before while also having a distinct enough to allow both him and barry to have distinct superhero names
I think BARRY has the STRONGEST WILL POWER in DC. Imagine living with all the traumas and remembering them all, THE FLASHPOINT, can save his mother but will lose everyone else.
But at the end of the day he keeps a SMILE on his face.
The irony of seeing Arris wearing a flash T-Shirt while reviewing a flash comic. While I'm watching it on my TV while wearing the same flash T-Shirt 👕 😁⚡
Heroes in Crisis was straight up character assassination
I'm glad they retconned Wally's "Heroes In Crisis" fiasco. He's been my favorite Flash since he first fought Savitar in mid 90s which made me a fan of Wally in the first place. Savitar is also my favorite Flash villain so I'm glad they also retconned his lame death at the hands of Barry Allen who Savitar was more powerful than
was Savitar more powerful than Barry Allen in Flash: Rebirth? somehow I'm doubtful of that. I feel like even without the Black Flash's powers Savitar would have lost in a 1 on 1 fight with no BS writing.
@@sakaririchard8810 Flash: Rebirth was BS writing. Wally is more powerful than Barry and Savitar was able to defeat the entire Flash family, even Wally. Wally had to trick Savitar in order to defeat him so Barry killing him was bullsh!t. It was only done to prop up Barry to make it seem like he was the most powerful Flash at the time, which he wasn't. Sometimes writers just write utter bullsh!t like when Spiderman defeated one of Galactus' heralds with brute force
Remember everyone, you can ALWAYS go faster.
Just do whatever the DCAU does and it will be fine
By that logic, Bruce and Barbara would be a thing and that's wrong on so many levels.
@@Noname-ut1ye
Except the Batman and Barbara thing that is 100% garbage.
@@SPDRM the DCAU is the animated universe from the 90s and 2000s not the new 52 movies
@@SPDRM i mean nightwing in the comics got 1 tapped by a baton and a rock so 🤷
Seconded
So glad to hear Wally is back, and well.
"It was me Wally. Remember that time you committed those horrific acts. I forced you to do them at super speed"
Every now and then, I can say 'This makes me happy'.
Roy quoting about the batmobile was hilarious
It's funny how wally becomes the fastest man alive AGAIN..... 😂
As he should be
Wally West is literally the heart of the DC
if they ever make a movie based on this concept, so need the line "too many speedsters" like in dr strange "too many sorcerers"
It was me barry! I changed Wally's continuity!
Wally is the best flash Greg LaRoque and Mark Waid seen to that
"It WAS me, Wally! IT WAS ME ALONG!!!"
It’s about time the DC give Wally wet the respect he deserves and not try to shadow him in front of Barry Allen.
They are! Barry Allen is no longer the main Flash, Wally is!
I'm glad they fixed that killing people thing.
Thank god, Wally West is officially back!!!
I had no idea how much this was just "It was me Barry".
I always thought it would make sense if the Psycho Pirate was manipulating events from behind the scenes, especially given his little history with Flashes. But what's most important is that Wally is finally back to form.
Stuff like this is the reason why most people don't get into comics.
The kinda of mess got me out of active reading for a while… I was back with New 52 because it was a pretty clean slate but then they retconned that too and it became a mess again.
Idk man i got into comics when it was already a hell of a mess, but yeah most other people wouldn't
@@liltaco4119 for real
If people really wanna get into comics they gotta roll with the punches to 🥲 😢
I love the old school Wally west flash costume but if they want both a Wally west flash and a Barry Allen flash it’s gonna get real confusing
They should just change Wally's speedforce lightning color to Blue again on his 90s white lens costume and there won't be any confusion.
@@kennylee2376 agreed
Wally has the white eyes that's what separates his suit from Barry.
Welcome to the RUclips experience. Two 30 second unstoppable ads then a skippable two minutes ad in the video followed by an unskippable 30 second ad.
Glad Wally has his classic white-eye cowl suit again. Also Professor Zoom retconning everything and even Hunter Zolomon’s origin, to him becoming the second Zoom.
Yeeeessss!!!! This was good!!!! He was always my favorite, and i have always wanted Savitar back anyway!!!!v Thanks for doing this Variant!!!!
This rises and advances my spirit (Justice for Wally Amen)
From this Day Forward No one else Will Pick On my Hero Ever again
Wally west was my flash. Barry was dead before I was born. I felt betrayed as a fan when barry returned. Nothing against barry but dc completely disregarded and disrespected wally
Don’t get me wrong I’m happy Wally is back in full swing but I wish Barry had his own book as well or maybe they share a book
I LOVE that they did Wally right for once!
Man normally i don't like retcons but I'm so fucking happy this happened
The fact displate is helping Africa warms my heart as someone living in Africa.
Remember that time you became enemies with Barry?
It was me, Wally. I used the power of suggestion to put you at odds with your mentor!
- The Reverse Flash, probably
I love how Eobard is basically an eraser
Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?
i kinda like that they retconed reverse flash doing that because that still means that he said that he did it even though he didn’t. meaning that not only is he doing all these terrible things to the flash family but also he’s lying about doing some things as well just to make them hate him more. he wants to be their villain and will do anything to reach that goal
The flash is by far the best book on the DC shelf right now.
Honestly it would have made more sense if Gorilla Grodd was mentally messing with people instead of the reverse flash.
Yeah but like "It was me Barry"
Yeah
I think DC really forgot the value of Grodd tbh
The thumbnails you show are so cool that I like to use them as my desktop wallpaper.
Anything goes wrong with the Speedsters,
.
Reverse Flash : It was me Barry.
Can you do history of the Justice Society of America and the Seven Soldiers of Victory?
I feel like there trying to kill Barry off again bc in this current run Wally west is flash and Barry isn’t present
It is in your best interest to make sure Remy visits Kennewick tomorrow.
The retcons are great, but I'm gonna miss that sweet red and silver suit.
Anytime a flash plotline does not make sense, Reverse Flash will somehow be brought in to explain things.
This is definitely a welcome retcon.
Wally West will ALWAYS be my favorite Flash, nomatter what.
I like blue lightning, red hair flowing in the wind Wally though.
This comic was a good comeback for what they made Wally do in an earlier comic. I like this story.
I wait for these vids keep entertaining
*Good*. Wally West was always my Flash.
It kinda seems like Wally only defeated Savitar in a split second because of the power of heroism...and plot armor
Yo dawg, I heard you like retconns. And
Old meme but still fits.
is funny that so relatively soon, them doing a retcon after basically having the death metal crisis basically undead retcons making everything canon
A decent way to give death the middle finger
Thank god, Wally was always my flash
The speed force explosion is what killed everyone, but what made Wally try to (unheroically) cover it all up?
IRL it's because of Tom King's bad writing, but in universe it's because of what, Thawne's hypnotic suggestion?
I’m so glad he’s back, but honestly I prefer his Rebirth suit to his 90’s suit. I feel like it better suits his personality
I think they put him in the 90's costume, so people would start taking him seriously as the Flash because I have seen people calling Wally kid flash on DC's social media accounts even though he was wearing his Flash Rebirth costume in those posts
I didn't read or hear about wally west doing such things. I was so pissed when I heard you say what they did. He is the best Flash! JLE!!!!
I actually kind of like this retcon of a retcon. I mean it's better than the TV show for sure. lol
I think it is a long time coming and we'll deserved. D.C. please never let Tom King write Wally again.
I'm with you, Arras. The Reverse-Flash retcon was just fine, and should've been left alone.
So basically "It was me Barry!" meme brought to comics, ok I get it
So this is just another "It was me Barry" scenario loooll
Finally, so excited, need DC to continue legacy characters comic runs for the entire DCU. If youre interested I have videos of The Flash on my channel!
i love how every writer clean up after tom king
I love how they did this.
williamson’s retcon is still valid tho this just fixes the other half of the problem. like williamson’s covers the weird covering it up, and this covers the weird explanation of speed force powers
Let’s just pray that the flash family’s future in future state will not come true!!!
I'm gonna miss the maroon and silver Wally suit. It could get reworked in spots but the basic design is nice. I figured by now a speedster would've gone sleeveless or at least short sleeved like the new Future Barry of the new Year One story.
"It was me Wally".
About time
Yeah, I dig it!
Sponge Bob narrator voice..."A few moments later"...Aaaaand he's broken again. ;(