Looks like the best P320 trigger I've ever seen. It's good he tests for drop safety an knows what he's doing. Have seen many people do their own mods to Glocks and not realize they bypassed both the drop safety and the striker safety, making the gun possible to go off from shock or vibrations. (with some not knowing there was a problem until the gun fired on them or shot them). ...and all they had to do was watch Johnny Glocks videos.
Love my X-Comp Ultra!!!! Just got the Agency Arms trigger for it and I hope I can use some of this info to get mine tweaked just right. You got some nice bangers.
I'm excited! The creep is the thing that gets me after I polished and lightened the springs .. I can really feel the engagement with the safety lever and then there is a little creep in between when that is at end of travel then I hit the sear wall it's a light pull I just hope you have found the cure... Lol
I’m definitely getting there I’m about to run some other tests today and then if all goes well will be time to start working on the actual kit to sell but u will be on the super discount list.
When can we see the kit for sale?? I personally wouldn't want to send out my EDC (since it's my only EDC) to get a trigger job done if you have a kit available for it! Thank you!
Tyrant trigger is one of the triggers I’ve been looking at for my M18. Everything is stock except the tan WC carry grip. Can’t decide which trigger and what color.
My 320 is a little heavier on the recoil spring but my full agency 320 is just as smooth as my staccato. I’ve got over 60 hrs in polish in the Fcu and the armory crafty trigger tune kit. Love the 320 platform.
Out of the box P320 feels almost like Glock. Well, it is actually little better, but not a huge difference. I have installed Apex Tactical trigger kit - that was game changer!
What recoil spring and weight are you using? I've got the PMM set up and just ordered Max Michel's Competition Trigger Spring Set, as well as the DPM Recoil Spring for my Sub Compact Slide. Looking for the recoil reduction and quicker follow ups with these parts. I'm planning to use the DPM on 115 grain speed plinking, then put my stock 16 lb recoil spring for the Buffalo Hardcast ammo I ordered too.
If you don't mind me asking, what does he tig weld for the trigger job? ...and I noticed he actually fixed the problem of the slide moving up/down when you pull the trigger (from the question I just asked in my previous comment). Any idea how he did that? (I can see there are a few ways, but I'm just wondering what the most recommended way would be). Wondering if it's a modification to the rails, or to the wide part of the frame, or something else.
Is this JUST the AC dual adjustable with the OEM trigger bar? I’m thinking of doing the AC trigger with the Alex trigger bar and AC +10% return spring. Idk if the AC will work with the Apex tho and most people say don’t EDC the AC DA
I’ve had my p320 for a few years but never upgraded anything on it. I really want that mush/creep out of the trigger. How’s your kit coming along? And will they work with tyrant designs trigger?
Glock triggers have quite a bit of mush. I would say the stock P320 trigger is better all day than a stock Glock. Solid channel, keep up the good work!
I am very interested in your trigger kit, if you want an unbiased tester please let me know. Not looking for a freebee just enjoy modifying and shooting. Keep up the great channel.
1:50 ... Yeah, you have to test the trigger with a magazine with snap caps in it. Otherwise (when empty) the slide gets pulled down with the sear when you pull the trigger and your trigger pull is very different. You can have a great trigger when the magazine is installed, but then when you pull the trigger with no magazine, it can hang up or even not fire at all. I was actually coming into the comment section to see if you had an idea on what the best way would be to get rid of that up/down play/slop in the slide.
@@SkipsGunz I know you don't get rid of it entirely... but it's definitely less noticeable on the gun to the right than the one to the left. You have no creep in that trigger at all, not even when there's no magazine in it (which wouldn't be possible with excessive up/down movement). I know guns that are too perfectly fit can have reliability issues, esp when dirty... but some P320's seem to have excessive movement and can't be tuned very well, because of it.
My issues isn’t how the trigger feels, it’s how it sounds. For example a Glock has a loud and tactile click when the trigger is pulled while dry firing. On the sig the triggger sounds weak almost hollow and can barely hear it when dry firing. When shooting you are right you don’t notice anything and the gun shoots every time, but when you dry fire it every time you do you ask yourself why does it sound so weak, hollow, not a solid click. It makes you think something is wrong with it, but again mine shoots just fine so there isn’t anything wrong with it. The reset is louder than the trigger pull lol.
@@SkipsGunz it’s a great gun though and I’ll keep mine forever. By the way I don’t have the standard P320. I have the M18. I know it’s basically a modified P320. Strangely enough my P365 is the opposite. Nice and loud and solid click when trigger is pulled and solid reset. Weird I know, but true.loved your video though and I just subbed and liked it.
These guns have to have a tad bit of take up. You are disabling one of their safeties if it is directly on the wall “Firing pin safety” unless you have done something internal wise to mitigate that.. just an fyi
Yeah she’s modified internally Iv went threw it thoroughly from a saftey point this is 5months of testing and I think besides the tig wields I’m right at the Sig armors approach. I absolutely appreciate the help though truthfully
@@SkipsGunzI would argue that pre-travel is NOT a safety. Keep you finger off the trigger until you've committed to shoot. From personal experience working in areas of conflict, I can assure you that a small or long amount of pre-travel means nothing. You can have the heaviest, mushiest trigger and you wont remember the difference. What does count is proper and consistent training with the system you carry.
At some point one has to accept trigger as good enough. This is "hinged" trigger ,never gonna feel same as 1911 trigger that has straight pull. That don't mean that I can double tap faster with one then the other. Maybe in slow target style shooting it would make a difference ,for action shooting even stock x5 trigger is just fine. Armory Craft or sig armorer triggers do help a bit ,but they won't make you better Action shooter . Keep up the good work
I completely disagree. Thats liek saying, Hey, we made it to Mars! No reason to try and go further. I have the AC trigger, and its mushy and creepy as hell. These systems need serious tinkering.
nice builds man. That second trigger looks awesome. I'm not super experienced with triggers, but was considering maybe an apex trigger for my 320. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have the wilson combat frame on it, which has more grip and makes the mag release better for how I hold the gun. Simplicity is all good with me, but I would like to spruce up the trigger.
@@SkipsGunz I may just do that I was the guy that reached out about my Prodigy but even after 2 trips back to SA I never got it to run halfway reliably. It got so bad SA bought it back from me and I got a Bul Armory instead
Can you take the springy/mush out of the break with an Agency arms shoe ?? I’d buy that I was disappointed I want that crisp break the agency gives in a Glock but in a 320 with the added safety of the trigger safety
I went back to watch it past the 9:20 to see if you got to the "trigger job(pulling like a Staccato XC) and you NEVER got to the "trigger job" in your title.
At 5mins I’m literally telling u showing u the trigger job I sell this I’m not giving you details on what I did. If your interested in sending me the fcu and I’ll send it back with the best trigger u ever felt on a 320 contact me on IG message or email at steykaerts1983@aol.com also don’t be so rude we’re a community at SGz
Awesome work man! I just got a PMM and Icarus frame for my 365 and it is absolutely my favorite system now!
Enjoy I gota good amount of videos on that setup if u need any help with it
Looks like the best P320 trigger I've ever seen. It's good he tests for drop safety an knows what he's doing. Have seen many people do their own mods to Glocks and not realize they bypassed both the drop safety and the striker safety, making the gun possible to go off from shock or vibrations. (with some not knowing there was a problem until the gun fired on them or shot them). ...and all they had to do was watch Johnny Glocks videos.
Love my X-Comp Ultra!!!! Just got the Agency Arms trigger for it and I hope I can use some of this info to get mine tweaked just right. You got some nice bangers.
Thanks 🙏 I try to be the best me I can be lol my wife hates it
That trigger is awesome , definitely impressed
I’m getting there man
dam bro how much
What is the color of trigger? It looks gold in the video but when shopping it looks matte gold. Does it match the Faxon Barrel?
Which gas pedal do you prefer? I have the gas pedal like the one on the non-comp gun you have but I want to switch may be
can't wait. thanks
I'm excited! The creep is the thing that gets me after I polished and lightened the springs .. I can really feel the engagement with the safety lever and then there is a little creep in between when that is at end of travel then I hit the sear wall it's a light pull I just hope you have found the cure... Lol
I’m definitely getting there I’m about to run some other tests today and then if all goes well will be time to start working on the actual kit to sell but u will be on the super discount list.
@@SkipsGunz you sell the kit yet?
When can we see the kit for sale?? I personally wouldn't want to send out my EDC (since it's my only EDC) to get a trigger job done if you have a kit available for it! Thank you!
Tyrant trigger is one of the triggers I’ve been looking at for my M18. Everything is stock except the tan WC carry grip. Can’t decide which trigger and what color.
My 320 is a little heavier on the recoil spring but my full agency 320 is just as smooth as my staccato. I’ve got over 60 hrs in polish in the Fcu and the armory crafty trigger tune kit. Love the 320 platform.
That’s gota be one smooth trigger then I’d love to try that out
Out of the box P320 feels almost like Glock. Well, it is actually little better, but not a huge difference. I have installed Apex Tactical trigger kit - that was game changer!
What recoil spring and weight are you using?
I've got the PMM set up and just ordered Max Michel's Competition Trigger Spring Set, as well as the DPM Recoil Spring for my Sub Compact Slide.
Looking for the recoil reduction and quicker follow ups with these parts. I'm planning to use the DPM on 115 grain speed plinking, then put my stock 16 lb recoil spring for the Buffalo Hardcast ammo I ordered too.
It depends honestly the dpm kit is a test and tune setup with ur setup
What gas pedal is on the pmm rig in the video?
If you don't mind me asking, what does he tig weld for the trigger job? ...and I noticed he actually fixed the problem of the slide moving up/down when you pull the trigger (from the question I just asked in my previous comment). Any idea how he did that? (I can see there are a few ways, but I'm just wondering what the most recommended way would be). Wondering if it's a modification to the rails, or to the wide part of the frame, or something else.
It appears to be a bi-product of the Icarus grip module. Mine is gone aswell
On that 320, what gas pedal is that? Just subscribed.
I put an AXG grip module on my M 18 it's my favorite pistol now.
I’m in for two soon as they are ready!
Absolutely
Is this JUST the AC dual adjustable with the OEM trigger bar? I’m thinking of doing the AC trigger with the Alex trigger bar and AC +10% return spring. Idk if the AC will work with the Apex tho and most people say don’t EDC the AC DA
I do some sear work and spring swaps also but u can get away with skipping the trigger bar
I’ve had my p320 for a few years but never upgraded anything on it. I really want that mush/creep out of the trigger. How’s your kit coming along? And will they work with tyrant designs trigger?
Www.SkipsGuns.com
Glock triggers have quite a bit of mush. I would say the stock P320 trigger is better all day than a stock Glock. Solid channel, keep up the good work!
Thanks bud if u like p320 triggers ul be blown away from my x5 legion trigger job they’ll be for sale soon
I am very interested in your trigger kit, if you want an unbiased tester please let me know. Not looking for a freebee just enjoy modifying and shooting. Keep up the great channel.
Thanks bro I’m in the process of trying to getit made slow moving but I will keep u in mind
Are you going to be offering a drop in kit or is it something that you would have to send in your P320 for?
So I believe I’m gona try doing both an adjustable one u install and permanent one that I have to do
1:50 ... Yeah, you have to test the trigger with a magazine with snap caps in it. Otherwise (when empty) the slide gets pulled down with the sear when you pull the trigger and your trigger pull is very different. You can have a great trigger when the magazine is installed, but then when you pull the trigger with no magazine, it can hang up or even not fire at all. I was actually coming into the comment section to see if you had an idea on what the best way would be to get rid of that up/down play/slop in the slide.
You don’t get rid of that up and down it’s needed to function properly
@@SkipsGunz I know you don't get rid of it entirely... but it's definitely less noticeable on the gun to the right than the one to the left. You have no creep in that trigger at all, not even when there's no magazine in it (which wouldn't be possible with excessive up/down movement). I know guns that are too perfectly fit can have reliability issues, esp when dirty... but some P320's seem to have excessive movement and can't be tuned very well, because of it.
did you change any springs for the trigger? or was this just the armory craft trigger?
There’s alot I change it’s something I sell if interested www.SkipsGuns.com
I need this, and will send you money right now for the parts lmao. I have the AC trigger already.
Message me on IG messager
Scott Teykaerts
@@SkipsGunz Skip, I just saw this response. I'm still interested! Sending you a message.
TAKE MY MONEY NOW! Eta when this will be released and price point?
If u pm me on IG I can do it it’s alil pricey because of parts but we can get u goin if u want
Did you ever get this trigger kit together?
Selling triggerjobs for a year strong buddy
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What’s that on the TLR1? A lever instead of a screw??
Yeah it’s a old model
Is this your owm trigger kit?.and do you install them?.
We do offer trigger jobs
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I just ordered the armory craft for my p320 x full size I wanted a light trigger similar to the staccato
If u can get the competition springs from gray guns it’ll help
@@SkipsGunz ok thanks
Is the striker block engaged without the take up?
It passed all saftey measures in testing
Do you have a m18 kit thats set up like the 2011 trigger ?
I can tune it there the same fcu
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My issues isn’t how the trigger feels, it’s how it sounds. For example a Glock has a loud and tactile click when the trigger is pulled while dry firing. On the sig the triggger sounds weak almost hollow and can barely hear it when dry firing. When shooting you are right you don’t notice anything and the gun shoots every time, but when you dry fire it every time you do you ask yourself why does it sound so weak, hollow, not a solid click. It makes you think something is wrong with it, but again mine shoots just fine so there isn’t anything wrong with it. The reset is louder than the trigger pull lol.
I hear ya
@@SkipsGunz it’s a great gun though and I’ll keep mine forever. By the way I don’t have the standard P320. I have the M18. I know it’s basically a modified P320. Strangely enough my P365 is the opposite. Nice and loud and solid click when trigger is pulled and solid reset. Weird I know, but true.loved your video though and I just subbed and liked it.
@michaelzschoche2746 we do trigger jobs if ever needed
Www.skipsguns.com
These guns have to have a tad bit of take up. You are disabling one of their safeties if it is directly on the wall “Firing pin safety” unless you have done something internal wise to mitigate that.. just an fyi
Yeah she’s modified internally Iv went threw it thoroughly from a saftey point this is 5months of testing and I think besides the tig wields I’m right at the
Sig armors approach. I absolutely appreciate the help though truthfully
@@SkipsGunzI would argue that pre-travel is NOT a safety. Keep you finger off the trigger until you've committed to shoot. From personal experience working in areas of conflict, I can assure you that a small or long amount of pre-travel means nothing. You can have the heaviest, mushiest trigger and you wont remember the difference. What does count is proper and consistent training with the system you carry.
@@SkipsGunz by the way, thanks for the video, an wish you the best with your new business.
Do I need to buy a new slide to run that barrel and comp? for my x5 legion?
Yeah
Yeh that’s a subcompact barrel/slide (3.9) on the XFive frame. Go to PMM website and check out their options.
Where do I get the metal lowers?
Www.SkipsGuns.com to order
What kind of mag base pad is that?
Taran tactical
Let me know when it’s out I love it
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Have you heard of the 1811 grips for these pistols? They look amazing!
I have not but I will go look
At some point one has to accept trigger as good enough. This is "hinged" trigger ,never gonna feel same as 1911 trigger that has straight pull. That don't mean that I can double tap faster with one then the other. Maybe in slow target style shooting it would make a difference ,for action shooting even stock x5 trigger is just fine. Armory Craft or sig armorer triggers do help a bit ,but they won't make you better Action shooter .
Keep up the good work
I completely disagree. Thats liek saying, Hey, we made it to Mars! No reason to try and go further. I have the AC trigger, and its mushy and creepy as hell. These systems need serious tinkering.
Iv tinkered my way to a 2lb solid short throw beast I’d love to let believers like u see what we can do. I appreciate the backup 👍
@@ZPOLLAK not even close for comparisment. Once you slapping trigger at competition ,at certain speed and accuracy, trigger is last thing that matters
nice builds man. That second trigger looks awesome. I'm not super experienced with triggers, but was considering maybe an apex trigger for my 320. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have the wilson combat frame on it, which has more grip and makes the mag release better for how I hold the gun. Simplicity is all good with me, but I would like to spruce up the trigger.
Www.SkipsGuns.com
Wow
Is this kit out already?
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I build a 320 and the trigger sucks
I need to do something bc I’m used to a nice trigger
We offer trigger jobs
Www.skipsGuns.com
@@SkipsGunz I may just do that
I was the guy that reached out about my Prodigy but even after 2 trips back to SA I never got it to run halfway reliably.
It got so bad SA bought it back from me and I got a Bul Armory instead
Can you take the springy/mush out of the break with an Agency arms shoe ?? I’d buy that I was disappointed I want that crisp break the agency gives in a Glock but in a 320 with the added safety of the trigger safety
Can definitely give you something close
🤙🏻💪🏻🇺🇲
It's practically a single stage handgun trigger lol
What’s the magwell on the Icarus?
Armory craft
@@84jgs THIS ONE? www.armorycraft.com/product-page/sig-sauer-p320-magwell-for-x5-and-x-carry-grip-modules
@@84jgs So armory craft makes a magwell that fits on the Icarus?
It’s a magwell that fits on the x5 lower and the Icarus it’s shaped different and contact points are better
@@SkipsGunz I have the Icarus module. That’s why I was asking. Just want to figure out which magwell fit it. Thank You!
We’re doni buy
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I went back to watch it past the 9:20 to see if you got to the "trigger job(pulling like a Staccato XC) and you NEVER got to the "trigger job" in your title.
Plenty of other videos on the trigger or u can just send me the 320 and I do the triggers for builds www.SkipsGuns.com
HOLY CRAP. I had to shut you up at 9:20. You NEVER got to the trigger job part of your title.
At 5mins I’m literally telling u showing u the trigger job I sell this I’m not giving you details on what I did. If your interested in sending me the fcu and I’ll send it back with the best trigger u ever felt on a 320 contact me on IG message or email at steykaerts1983@aol.com also don’t be so rude we’re a community at SGz
Right some people are just rude
It's 2 different trigger systems 😂
Lmao that’s why it says pulls like not is lmao 🤣 👍