My REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS of the PANASONIC LUMIX GH6 | Specifications, Comparisons.... AND 6K??
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Oh yes. Today, I'm going through what I believe could be included in the (surely) upcoming Panasonic GH6!
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I also appreciate I made a mistake with the GH5's sensor... it's 20 megapixels, not 16. Sorry folks!
I think Panasonic needs to do something really extraordinary to keep MFT alive for video. Not sure what that is but I'll be excited to finally see an announcement
I really hope they do 🤞 43 rumors is currently my most opened webpage 👀 haha.
I just shot on a Gh5 with 75 /1.7 at 50fps on an overcast day. Not bad at all. The Gh6 should be a very usable given Panasonic's usual generosity
I love MFT. I love Panasonic. Sorry for any hater,Panasonic is here to stay.
I really hope it does stay, and I'm sure Panasonic will find a way to keep MFT exciting and revolutionary 🤞
I had a Panasonic but I really don't like this tiny noisy sensors. I actually really like APSC if you cant go FF. I think Panasonic could have done a great APSC Camera.
@@silklion7375 mft&ff are as optimal options as fuji's aps-c&medium format
@@JordanLeeVideo computation photovideo will save mft
@@pavelxbushmakin7252 ???
The GH5 is so fully featured that an updated model isn't much of a concern. But when it does come out I agree with the higher frame rate recording option and external RAW. As far as Speed Boosting goes, I'll opt for a Panasonic FF model instead adding a Speed Booster to an MFT camera in the future.
If they stick with 20-something megapixels, it has to be a new sensor with increased low light and dynamic range capabilities. But I do not rule out more megapixels because they could give us some clever pixel binning tech that you could use if you wanted to, depending on whether you needed high ISO or not.
Something important to consider is that M43 is not just for video, it is for stills too! The tech they put in the GH line, I want to get some of that in a new GX model!
I believe M43 can continue to bring advantages over larger sensor/mount formats. Pany and OM-DS have to make compact, light, yet powerful gear, at a reasonable price!
The thing that many people want, now that we know it can be done, is a global shutter. Failing that, fast read-out will do for now. But a global shutter will mean that we no longer need a physical shutter, making the camera arguably more reliable.
Definitely! I'd be very surprised if they did this, considering their EVA and (I might be wrong here but) some of their cine cameras don't have a global shutter. Even if they did, would Panasonic bring a global shutter into their mirrorless cameras, at the risk of losing sales for the cine range?
@@JordanLeeVideo The bean counters and pinheads might not want to go there, but if Panasonic are smart they will not hold back. Sony's A1 has featured that the FX9 doesn't, and they don't care.
I think I would want a dual native ISO of 800 and 12500 would be a perfect combination to address the low light weakness of m43.
I agree with staying at 6k and making it really good.
Better dynamic range, improved color science, dual native ISO, IBIS, 4k 120fps 422 10bit, 240fps 422 10bit FHD, and hopefully but not expecting a new and reliable AF system.
Dual native would be nice! Even if it was on par with the Eva which I believe is 800 and 4000, would be lovely. I'm pretty sure the S1 has an unofficial dual native of 640 and 4000 and comes in so handy! (although I think the upcoming firmware confirms this with the option of choosing your native ISO)
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3200 and 6400 will be weak point then
A 47mp MFT sensor exists. Sony announced it in September 2019. It is capable of 8k 30fps video. I expect it to be the sensor in the GH6.
I've held off buying a C70, FX6 or a7s iii bc of the impending arrival of the GH6. The biggie for me is significantly improved AF, if it has that I'm in.
Are you currently a Lumix user? If so, then yes it will most likely definitely be worth the wait if the body is all you'll be upgrading. I'm not personally expecting AF to match what we see with Canons Dual Pixel AF or even Sony cameras, mostly due to Panasonic resisting the change to PD-AF, but I'm sure they'll state that it's 'improved' - to what extent, I'm not sure what to expect.
@@JordanLeeVideo yeah i have a pair of GH4s and a GH5 plus about 8 pro lenses, The AF doesn't need to be perfect but significantly improved for me to fork out for a GH6. the reason Panasonic doesn't have phase detection AF is because they are reliant on Sony to supply their sensors and Sony won't supply phase detection sensor technology to Panasonic, hence they are locked in to DBDFAF. The info was leaked by a tech guy in a chat forum and he described the relationship b/w Panasonic and Sony as complicated. Panasonic are aware of the situation and are trying to make alternative technologies replicate the brilliant Sony AF.
I'm hoping for integrated ND-Filters... and Dual-ISO for the other end...
Dual ISO would be great! I haven't personally used the GH5s yet, but imagine the dual native option to be incredibly helpful in some instances.
Thanks for the video.. I’m just getting into Panasonic. I came from Sony . I’m learning a lot from your channel. Do you know another good RUclipsr that shoots Panasonic that I can learn from also?
That's great to hear! Thank you very much. Micro Four Nerds is a great channel for Lumix-based products, including their S series full frame cameras. If you're after videos particularly for the GH5, PhotoJoseph uploaded lots of live streams and videos all about the camera, during the time of the GH5's release.
this is a great channel. You can also check out photo Joseph. He is a lumix ambassador.
I like Matti Sulanto's channel. He's quite relaxed, and his channel is pretty much all Panasonic.
If they put internal ND in the GH6,
would buy it just for that feature!
do you think is there any chance they could/would do that?
the thick front (mount) like in Blackmagic camera could fit it easily
I'd personally be very surprised if they did this, considering the market position of the GH6 still remaining a hybrid camera, and therefore will remain traditional of some sorts for photographers.
However... Panasonic DO like to surprise us, so who knows... 🙂
If it's like the live ND found in the E-M1 III or E-M1 X, that'd be awesome
The advantages of MFT are quickly slipping away, unfortunately, as everyone is aware. They will need to keep up and deliver 90% of FF but at 2/3 the price and size/weight, or really provide something outstanding that isn't offered by FF but at a similar price.
I do agree. The 10-25 f/1.7 might have extended the usage of M43 lenses for a while longer, as most people I know use full frame EF glass on their GH5's, and in doing so remove one of the main advantages of a M43 system - the lens size. I'm confident that they'll set another standard when it comes to recording specs, just like the GH5 announcement. Definitely keeping my eyes peeled on the 43rumors page!
As far as I'm concerned, if they could improve the dynamic range another stop (to 14 or so), include the full VLOG, implement a dual-ISO sensor (400/6400 ideally) with 6k/60, 4k/120, 1080p/240, (without pixel binning, line skipping, or crops) and the AF system from the new S5, that would be everything they need to justify a $2500 (US) price tag. Oh, and keep the excellent IBIS from the GH5.
That's a big ask, but we all know Panasonic like to surprise their users! If we dream enough, maybe it could come true! 🤞
How do you say we should get excited now for something that might hopefully come out?
In any case, the GH lineup always comes out with some 'wow factor'. They don't upgrade a spec or two and let the marketing department sell it. They will make a camera that will have all the FF boys wet their wishes. Everything mentioned, or could be speculated on, I doubt by itself would be enough. It might be another year way before they start hinting at a GH6. Could be 2 years before one comes out.
I guess it's just a way to hook people into the video in that case then 🤷♂️😂
I agree, and do hope they blow us away with some revolutionary specs. I guess it's better for me to underexpect and them over achieve than the other way round 🤞
Sony has been producing some wicked little micro four thirds sensors over the last couple years. Plenty of good choices for Panasonic to drop a mighty nice GH6
Imagine if it has PD-AF! But don’t worry, Panasonic would rather drive their imaging department into the ground than produce a camera that can focus video.
Ha! Jokes aside, I'm quite surprised of the autofocus in the S1. Especially when using it for photography. I feel like Panasonic know they're never going to fully entice the vloggers out there, but their respect is earned mostly from full time professionals who are after image quality :)
Are you using GH5 on this talking head? With what lens? Plus what's your lighting setup?
Love the quality of your video.
Trying to achieve a similar look.
Thanks Glenn! This was shot with the S1 using the 24-105 at f/4. I have an Aputure 120D II to the right of the camera, a small (on camera size) bicolour LED 90 degrees to the left of me, and an Aputure MC in the background using its RGB feature 🙂
So get the S1 if you can afford it?
@@weedeeohguy I find there's a few small differences that can change someone's mind between an S5 and an S1. Hdmi, raw requirements, ibis quality etc. If some of these aren't important then I'd say the s5, but I need all of these for my work so yes I'd say the S1 🙂
Sony A1 is now the ultimate: The Auto focus is the best: compared to any top Canon (C7, or R5, 1DX). The Canon dual pixel Focus seems to pick eyelashes rather than pupils, but it's better the Panasonic. the Sony 8k works, (R5 is a heater).
Very interested to see how the a1 performs 😀 They have mentioned only up to 30 minutes of shooting in 8k before overheating. Understandable and most of of the time perfectly acceptable though
No flip screen in a1. Total garbage for video.
@@bushboxer I'm not sure.. Flippy screen is card for vloggers.. Are vloggers really need 8k to record themselves? For people who can buy a camera for 6500 usd, shinobi for 300 usd is no problem i think.
@@carriagel8773 You’re kinda right. The a1 is clearly aimed for pros who would use an external monitor most likely. But still I find it peculiar when a device so valuable doesn’t have a flippy screen, which is extremely useful.
Many gh5 users say the image is too Video (Not cinematic), some even post their work on YT to prove it. So Is the Gh5 less cinematic than Sony A7(n), or Fuji Xt4?
I personally find 'cinematic' too subjective nowadays tbh. Stick a Canon Nifty Fifty on an Alexa, or an Ultra Prime on a GH5 along with filters, add some lighting and perhaps a cheeky bit of haze, and I reckon it wouldn't be a whitewash to the Arri. It's about what you do with the bodies that achieves a desired cinematic look 🙂
@@JordanLeeVideo I prefer to use the term "out of the box organic look". Easier to achieve on the Arri, Red Komodo, Blackmagic Pocket 6k and Ursa Mini, and many of the Canon cameras.
12 bit, 4K, 60fps please
That would be pretty epic!
oh please, we already have great cameras and way over our needs and wishes, people need to invest more in the glasses and lenses instead of them buying expensive body and cheap bad lenses and then wish for better camera and they already have it ,but they not knowledge enough its from the lens and not the body and start putting the blame on the body so they ask for better specs. cheers.
I personally might not own this camera, at least not straight away. But this video isn't just for those kind of people. It could be fun to watch for anyone who's just interested in cameras and rumours, enjoy engaging in those kinds of conversation, or this might be their first camera for all we know..? Cheers.
i will find it insulting if gh6 comes with the same weak autofocus. like, now, in these times when sony autofocus is so good. they should better delay gh6 another 5-10 years or however time they need until they finally figure out how autofocus is done.
It will be interesting to see if they can either develop their Contrast-detect AF in order to match its competition, but my guess is they'd have to change completely to using PDAF, however Panasonic in the past have said PDAF could affect image quality, hence their hesitatancy. Tough one!
@@JordanLeeVideo interesting. i did not know that.
GH5 has a 20MP sensor, not 16 as mentioned in the video. Every point you mention is rather obvious. What the GH6 needs more than anything, in addition to the obvious better low light and autofocus, is better firmware. Firmware that allows users to have separate settings for photos and video (it's a hybrid after all and some people do both photo and video on the same shoot). Firmware that allows users to autofocus before starting a slowmo recording. Firmware that improves the horrible interface for doing a rack focus (it should use 1 interface rather that the current 4). And finally, the headphone jack should be positioned in a place that doesn't get in the way of the LCD screen when flipped out.
The production quality of your video is nice, but the quality of information falls flat in comparison by sticking to all too obvious talking points.
Yeah, my friend told me straight away about the 20mp sensor, apologies for the inaccuracy! Not sure where 16 came from!
I appreciate your opinion, and you're right, and those things you mentioned would really help users for video especially - I'm sure Panasonic would be considering those things taken from plenty of user feedback. The risk with these types of videos are that they are my personal expectations, rather than an explanation of any rumours, or speculating some crazy features - Even the menton of potential of 6K in the video has received backlash elsewhere on other socials. Therefore I've purposely kept my expectations low, and personally don't think they need to improve too many things (whilst I'm sure they will), being someone who'd rather be expecting less and receiving more, once the cameras is announced.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here. More unfounded speculation.
... Which is why the videos title includes the word "expectation", and not "rumour" or "leaked" 👍
Panasonic is ass