Let the market correct itself. Also older cars are more efficient, you can work on your own car but newer cars are more expensive and complex to repair.
That what happen when you over charge and rip off the buyers all this automobiles company they deserved what going on bunches of CRIMINALS and greedy CRIMINALS PERIOD!!!
And that is intentional.... They don't want you fixing your own car.... They want you to bring it to the dealership so they can rob you blind for service... You shouldn't need in a brandnew car!!.... Buy older cars please people!!!..... Ohhh so much cheaper!!... Stop keeping the rich.... Rich!!!!... Keep your money!!!!
Not at a interest near 10%, unless you pay half down up front. Even then? Sure, you can go by a late model car but guess what? All the powers that be (government) can say that emissions MUST be low emissions. If you drive a older classic, even pre-1990, then they won't allow it on the road legally.
It's not just that the cars are expensive, it is also they are not reliable! I've been a mechanic for over 10 years and I've not seen this many manufacturers recalls and just poor quality! That's why so many mechanics are leaving warranty repairs don't pay!! If all i ever work on is warranty work that pays 45-50% what it should bc the car manufacturers are making us fix their short comings on the back end for pennies!! If the engineers did their jobs we wouldn't be in this mess!! But it's all about $$$ the CEOs need their millions for doing nothing!!
@@brettweltz8135, the fking rapture cost 100k. I understand it’s a special case but the fk people making 80k and they gonna spend 30% of their income for car payment. This is why never buy new car. Bought my 3 years old 2/3 the new price and it last me 20 years now and still running. 😢. It just how the rich slave us comsumer by loans and inflations. If anyone thinks that inflation cost by regulation, they are fking idiot. That’s what the rich slave and control the poeople
Boo hoo. The dealerships tried hooking me for 10k more than the sticker price just because the Maverick was difficult to get. They were doing that to a lot of people on most cars. I didn't buy it. I'm not overpaying. Let them suffer. The manufacturers will have to drop the prices or go bankrupt. I'm hoping the dealerships go so that I can buy from the manufacturer
Over price, reliability, many not even making it to 10,000 miles, and have to go back to dealership for repairs 🤨 Now days many of this vehicles are very inefficient.
In the early 2000s, only sports car like Ferrari cost more then $100k….. now every cars with extra options are near or more then $100k….for that money might as well put down payment in a house
Two months ago a new/ used dealership in Fresno tried to add on 11,000 dollars to a used 15,000 dollar car for a total of 26,000 dollars not counting tax and registration. I slammed my hand down on the guys desk and said thanks for wasting my afternoon! I found the exact same car but different color in Thousand Oaks for 15,000 That tells you everything about most of these car dealerships!
Over priced plastic trucks, next year they probably will have plastic engines. all the new trucks are trash and They have the nerve to ask twice the price of what it’s worth
At this point, they need to cut their losses take the hit and start making affordable cars again instead of trying to make 20 trims and all luxury vehicles. If not they just grabbing a bigger shovel.
We stopped buying new vehicles, stopped eating at restaurants and stopped buying name brands or junk food at grocery stores.... Result: we got healthy and put almost $100 K in our savings account...THANK YOU Greedy Corporations
Everything is ridiculously overpriced why dont they drop the prices too where they used too be nobody can afford a 50 % increase so many of us will stick with our cars and will not buy new ones until they drop the prices
Everything is hunky dory folks ! Fast food starter homes at $600k, trucks at $100k, $25 hamburgers, $15 birthday cards, $20 birthday balloons at Safeway. Don't fret, you will surely get a $200k raise next week to keep up with these prices. I don;t see that any of this info is actual . Prices have not changed in AZ.
I’ll glad I’m done paying my car in June. Because Covid screwed me and now I have to pay more than what it’s worth. But it’s ok imma keep my car forever!
As a consumer that’s been trying to get a better more reliable car for my family the high price tags and the lack of banks backing loans is a direct result of the problem they are having I would love nothing more then to have a better car but I’m not gonna pay 700 a month on a 24k dollar loan
The new trucks are inefficient also. The turbo models which they are going to, actually burn just as much gas if driven "briskly."😅 I have no idea what the auto industry is doing . They've been building trucks bigger and higher, with a high frontal area. You can't even use them for work if your a professional tradesman..
We don’t need car dealerships. They should just produce as orders are placed for new vehicles. Manufacturers can have a selection of vehicles for in person viewing/test drives. Same place people can get their purchased vehicle serviced.
I need a new transmission for a ‘98 ford explorer. That will cost $5,000 which doesn’t include labor. It failed emissions. Not allowed to sell because of the failed emissions! I’ve a some leaks. I was quoted $8,000-$10,000 for repairs. Mechanics are out of hand with their prices as well. I still drive. I was told by mechanic the government is trying to remove older cars off the road to sell newer cars!!
During the pandemic, the supply chain issues created more demand for vehicles than existing inventory could fill. As a result prices went up and and then supply of vehicles finally caught up, and surpassed demand.
Covid was a crazy time for cars. I have an average car i purchased for $50k. Sold it almost exactly 3 years later for $56k. First and last time that will happen in my life!!!
@@thejohnson9204I bought a car off a family member for $10k. Got into an accident during the pandemic, totaled the car….insurance payout was $15k.paid off my personal vehicle, and picked up a 2015 Prius for work.
The car companies and their union workers are all making way to much money all the way to the CEOs. Time for some heads to roll for mismanaging and pursuing the making of electric cars. The worst business decision ever in car manufacturing.
I agree with a lot of the comments greed and assuming is really hurting the car market. Where in the small minds of corporations do they think the average consumer can and or is willing to pay between 600-1000$ a month. My vehicle is paid for I am going to keep till wheels fall off
How will this effect the used vehicle market? during covid we bought a bran new camry, because it wasnt much more than a certified used, plus we got everything we wanted. I would love to have a truck, but 50k and higher? all brands having huge defects and recals? really?
prices went up during covid and the chip shortage, this is a long overdue price correction, for example in Australia a Toyota yaris entry level model is $33k australian, for a small hatch!
According to you, the car market is crashing every day. Yet I don't see crashing at all. "Wolf's coming!" "Wolf's coming!" "Wolf's coming!" -- so annoying.
I don’t think trump will bail them out gm should have gone under years ago I had a 2019 trail boss in the year and a half I owned it 8 months it was in shop for recalls.
Thr severe discounts are not what they appear. When they try to get you on a 500 a month payment on 10k financing and putting 75%down. And then keeping you there for 13 hrs trying to get you to buy all the service add ons, because some how. No dose not mean no.
Dealers and manufacturers have screwed themselves over with the “adjusted market price” added to the MSRP on the sticker. Usually that would be between $5,000 to $15,000. The reasoning was the low inventory because of Covid. That may have been so for a while but the greed of dealers and manufacturers got the better of them. I went last year to look at a Cadillac Escalade and was told the “adjusted market price “ on the Escalade was $40,000. I promptly said absolutely not to the salesman. A vehicle with an interior made mostly of plastic wasn’t even worth the sticker price. Let the dealers close and the cars rot.
Because many dealers ads extra charge on vehicles to make extra profits. They are too dumb to realize that they can sell more if they lower the excess charge and still make same or better profits. A win win for dealers and consumers!
O% interest isn't a discount when the price of the car is still 80k - 90k dollars. Give it a 50% discount from the sale price. I'll buy the tundra truck.
This is the response for scrapping Diesel cars with less than 50'000 miles on the tachometer a decade ago for not being enough environment friendly. Now, you would like to have them back, don't you?
Betting those v8 vehicles aren't worth it now, since they're sitting in those dealership lots. Maybe give up 2-4 cylinders & go electric, you might save some much needed cash in the long run? What am I saying? You'll just claim "smiles per gallon" while complaining about gas prices under your breath.
GAS GUZZLERS Truck, they never come close to Manufactures MPG Had a Honda CRV, wife liked the Smaller HRV, I call the TIN CAN CRV gas mileage 31 MPG Per Gallon, The Compact HRV 28 MPG Feel like I'm in a tin can, and can't even engage the Seat belt, it's down and hard to lock, I of a !00 things wrong
For car dealer they ripping the people off I went to buy 2018 honda crv over hundred thousand miles on it sticker price over 20 k they come back to total 26 k plus interest i said too much manager came he dropped to 20k plus interest i said again no then he ask me price your number i wrote 18k out of the door they said no I walked out
I don't feel sorry for the car market. I bet the CEO's didn't take a pay cut. Can't sell cars that are 25% over priced to begin with. Time will tell. Just remember when people stop paying the high prices then maybe the market will follow.
When the average USA income is 37,600 dollars how do these automakers expect anyone to buy their cars after the 1 percent rich people buy the 100,000 dollar cars! Even if the automakers make cars again between 20K to 30k most people will have to make sacrifices in living to make monthly payments plus insurance plus gas What are these automakers thinking?
I have no sympathies for these car dealers. I have bought new cars with a trade-in prior to the pandemic monthly payments $700 bought a 2019 jeep compass in 2018 after the pandemic these car has increased tremendously overpriced 78,000 for a truck is ridiculous and I was told that with a trade-in and my monthly payment would be $1200 a month. I said never mind. I'll just keep what I got. This has been a loss with all the maintenance with a $700 monthly payment and a 72 month term.
I bought a brand new tundra truck for 30k back in 2001. Now I can't even buy a brand new tundra truck for the same price because it's 80k-100k now. 😮😮. Toyota can keep it in storage. Lol
I'm own two older model cars, 2011 & 2014. One of which has been sketchy for reliability. A German brand and an American brand. Guess which on has given me the most grief? 😊
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Big business is too stupid to realize that greed and selfishness only hurts oneself in the long run. It's in every industry not just the automotive.
To be fair, the electric cars were mandated because of Obama/Biden requiring a mileage standard of 50 MPG by a certain date. They are insane.
Is because of inflation as Central Bank of Canada, US Fed keep printing money and rise inflation irresponsibly.
Trucks costing 100,000.00 are unaffordable! GREEDFLATION!
Greed has killed the car market.
Greed is killing all market
Let the market correct itself. Also older cars are more efficient, you can work on your own car but newer cars are more expensive and complex to repair.
That what happen when you over charge and rip off the buyers all this automobiles company they deserved what going on bunches of CRIMINALS and greedy CRIMINALS PERIOD!!!
And that is intentional.... They don't want you fixing your own car.... They want you to bring it to the dealership so they can rob you blind for service... You shouldn't need in a brandnew car!!.... Buy older cars please people!!!..... Ohhh so much cheaper!!... Stop keeping the rich.... Rich!!!!... Keep your money!!!!
BINGO!
Hybrid are trash
You forgot about Kia they’re trash
That is what happens when you drop quality and ask double or triple the product is worth.
Greedy dealers did it to themselves.
All the cars will sell very fast at $30 to $35k each.
Not at a interest near 10%, unless you pay half down up front. Even then?
Sure, you can go by a late model car but guess what? All the powers that be (government) can say that emissions MUST be low emissions. If you drive a older classic, even pre-1990, then they won't allow it on the road legally.
Maybe four years ago I could’ve afforded that now I couldn’t afford a car even if it was $1000
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My mechanic told me the government wants are after a certain year to be off the road. They’re forcing people to buy newer cars
It's not just that the cars are expensive, it is also they are not reliable! I've been a mechanic for over 10 years and I've not seen this many manufacturers recalls and just poor quality! That's why so many mechanics are leaving warranty repairs don't pay!! If all i ever work on is warranty work that pays 45-50% what it should bc the car manufacturers are making us fix their short comings on the back end for pennies!! If the engineers did their jobs we wouldn't be in this mess!! But it's all about $$$ the CEOs need their millions for doing nothing!!
That’s what happened when you try to over sales your car.
No, that’s what happened when you try to overprice your car
No, that is what happens when you print dollars and send them to Zelensky...
@@brettweltz8135, the fking rapture cost 100k. I understand it’s a special case but the fk people making 80k and they gonna spend 30% of their income for car payment. This is why never buy new car. Bought my 3 years old 2/3 the new price and it last me 20 years now and still running. 😢. It just how the rich slave us comsumer by loans and inflations. If anyone thinks that inflation cost by regulation, they are fking idiot. That’s what the rich slave and control the poeople
They are just looking for a government bail out
When you are charging 90k or more for a 30k truck there’s the problem
They have made their bed, let them lay in it.
Boo hoo. The dealerships tried hooking me for 10k more than the sticker price just because the Maverick was difficult to get. They were doing that to a lot of people on most cars. I didn't buy it. I'm not overpaying.
Let them suffer. The manufacturers will have to drop the prices or go bankrupt. I'm hoping the dealerships go so that I can buy from the manufacturer
@@beebob1279 yup spot on
I know what I would of told them
Sad thing is, they’re ego will make them prefer to go under than to give customers better deals
SeeYa
Over price, reliability, many not even making it to 10,000 miles, and have to go back to dealership for repairs 🤨
Now days many of this vehicles are very inefficient.
It’s almost as if paying your employees nothing has consequences for other industries.
It’s not minimum wage. People are stupid with their miney
The future you ask.....We're ARE SCREWED !!
I haven't really NOTICED THESE HUGE DISCOUNTS 😳??
In the early 2000s, only sports car like Ferrari cost more then $100k….. now every cars with extra options are near or more then $100k….for that money might as well put down payment in a house
Two months ago a new/ used dealership in Fresno tried to add on 11,000 dollars to a used 15,000 dollar car for a total of 26,000 dollars not counting tax and registration.
I slammed my hand down on the guys desk and said thanks for wasting my afternoon!
I found the exact same car but different color in Thousand Oaks for 15,000
That tells you everything about most of these car dealerships!
Over priced plastic trucks, next year they probably will have plastic engines. all the new trucks are trash and
They have the nerve to ask twice the price of what it’s worth
Bingo we have a winner
At this point, they need to cut their losses take the hit and start making affordable cars again instead of trying to make 20 trims and all luxury vehicles. If not they just grabbing a bigger shovel.
Don’t forget the high cost of interest they are charging.
Hoping the government doesn’t bail them out
Inflation will kill car and real estate businesses
Folk have been saying that for decades
You can't sell $80,000 trucks with people making under $15 a hour.
When you cheat everyone, it comes back. Loss after loss Karma
We stopped buying new vehicles, stopped eating at restaurants and stopped buying name brands or junk food at grocery stores.... Result: we got healthy and put almost $100 K in our savings account...THANK YOU Greedy Corporations
Everything is ridiculously overpriced why dont they drop the prices too where they used too be nobody can afford a 50 % increase so many of us will stick with our cars and will not buy new ones until they drop the prices
Everything is hunky dory folks ! Fast food starter homes at $600k, trucks at $100k, $25 hamburgers, $15 birthday cards, $20 birthday balloons at Safeway. Don't fret, you will surely get a $200k raise next week to keep up with these prices. I don;t see that any of this info is actual . Prices have not changed in AZ.
I surely got a laugh out of that 😂!!
Just wait.
I’ll glad I’m done paying my car in June. Because Covid screwed me and now I have to pay more than what it’s worth. But it’s ok imma keep my car forever!
And now bcause of these ridiculous prices, & poorly made cars the delinquency rate on car loans r up!
As a consumer that’s been trying to get a better more reliable car for my family the high price tags and the lack of banks backing loans is a direct result of the problem they are having I would love nothing more then to have a better car but I’m not gonna pay 700 a month on a 24k dollar loan
1 fact the auto industry is auto failing to acknowledge is why buy a car that your mechanic can't fix. Who wants to be priced gouged by the dealership
The new trucks are inefficient also. The turbo models which they are going to, actually burn just as much gas if driven "briskly."😅 I have no idea what the auto industry is doing . They've been building trucks bigger and higher, with a high frontal area. You can't even use them for work if your a professional tradesman..
We don’t need car dealerships. They should just produce as orders are placed for new vehicles. Manufacturers can have a selection of vehicles for in person viewing/test drives. Same place people can get their purchased vehicle serviced.
Price is not the only thing . Quality is really down. Let me get in line to buy a new car with start/stop at the red light 🚦
Yeah $74,000 for any vehicle is insane u can put a new engine and transmission in what your driving for a quarter of the price of a new one ...
I need a new transmission for a ‘98 ford explorer. That will cost $5,000 which doesn’t include labor. It failed emissions. Not allowed to sell because of the failed emissions! I’ve a some leaks. I was quoted $8,000-$10,000 for repairs. Mechanics are out of hand with their prices as well. I still drive. I was told by mechanic the government is trying to remove older cars off the road to sell newer cars!!
That’s because all turbocharged cars Are Crap as well as E cars , don’t by turbo anything
Prices are high and people are running out of money.
F150 Reliability? Each one should come with a spare transmission 😮😅
What they expect people are broke today every thing high cost, man this country going downhill!
During the pandemic, the supply chain issues created more demand for vehicles than existing inventory could fill. As a result prices went up and and then supply of vehicles finally caught up, and surpassed demand.
Covid was a crazy time for cars. I have an average car i purchased for $50k. Sold it almost exactly 3 years later for $56k. First and last time that will happen in my life!!!
@@thejohnson9204I bought a car off a family member for $10k. Got into an accident during the pandemic, totaled the car….insurance payout was $15k.paid off my personal vehicle, and picked up a 2015 Prius for work.
Further proof that it was designed to cause havoc in the world economy
Used car prices began to skyrocket. Dealers wanted to buy use cars and sell them for more than what was paid for
GREEDY AND ARROGANT
DEALERSHIP S, It's all about the 💰
Not the customer
Everyone wants to retire off a single sale. EVs are at least 25 years away. Cuba still drives cars from the 60s.
The car companies and their union workers are all making way to much money all the way to the CEOs. Time for some heads to roll for mismanaging and pursuing the making of electric cars. The worst business decision ever in car manufacturing.
I agree with a lot of the comments greed and assuming is really hurting the car market. Where in the small minds of corporations do they think the average consumer can and or is willing to pay between 600-1000$ a month. My vehicle is paid for I am going to keep till wheels fall off
peace of sh..t quality and high prices , let's think about it😂
Nah I’ll keep my 21 Toyota pro. The junk they are pushing now is just that junk.
How will this effect the used vehicle market? during covid we bought a bran new camry, because it wasnt much more than a certified used, plus we got everything we wanted. I would love to have a truck, but 50k and higher? all brands having huge defects and recals? really?
Because pickup truck are very expensive these days that's why
My Murano is junk. Lost the CV boots at 80K. Struts shot, motor support shot, headlight lenses cloudy, driver window regulator shot. Need I go on.
I can barely afford the car shops 😢
prices went up during covid and the chip shortage, this is a long overdue price correction, for example in Australia a Toyota yaris entry level model is $33k australian, for a small hatch!
In 1979 my new Chevrolet pickup cost 6300.00. Wished we could go back to those days 😢
According to you, the car market is crashing every day. Yet I don't see crashing at all. "Wolf's coming!" "Wolf's coming!" "Wolf's coming!" -- so annoying.
Show the Tesla parking lots that you can see from space too.
Glad I bought my F-150 back in 2015. (XLT, 2.7 eco boost, option package b2) $38,000.
Price of the same truck now $52,000 !😮
The real sad part is they build the cars for 10-15 thousand and the old price was double the cost of production. Triple that is stupid to pay for.
I hope the us don't bail out these car companies that are producing cars that we cannot afford to begin with
I don’t think trump will bail them out gm should have gone under years ago I had a 2019 trail boss in the year and a half I owned it 8 months it was in shop for recalls.
Trump will if it benefits him!!
You can't save Nissan until you get the cvt they make gone .
The EV illusion has traumatized the already stressed auto industry.
Thr severe discounts are not what they appear. When they try to get you on a 500 a month payment on 10k financing and putting 75%down. And then keeping you there for 13 hrs trying to get you to buy all the service add ons, because some how. No dose not mean no.
Greed has taken over they will have to get back to basic vehicals
Dealers and manufacturers have screwed themselves over with the “adjusted market price” added to the MSRP on the sticker. Usually that would be between $5,000 to $15,000. The reasoning was the low inventory because of Covid. That may have been so for a while but the greed of dealers and manufacturers got the better of them. I went last year to look at a Cadillac Escalade and was told the “adjusted market price “ on the Escalade was $40,000. I promptly said absolutely not to the salesman. A vehicle with an interior made mostly of plastic wasn’t even worth the sticker price. Let the dealers close and the cars rot.
You dont need a new car every year.
Hello, no one can afford their mortgage, rent and utilities monthly payments, let alone buy a new car.
$70,000 for a standard 2 door pick-up NO WAY....I wouldn't live long enough to pay it off (I'm 70 years old).
Import duty on vehicles are average 75% in Jamaica plus everything else that comes after.
If someone shook with their left hand I would leave, too 🤣
Sales guys are all about greed trying to make more than 6 to 8 grand per sales. Needless to say the price is already ridiculous.
that's a lot of money you got to spend for a note you got to pay for 6 years and not running as long as they used to
It is no surprise it has bin going down since the middle of the seventies
More and more complicated and now ev disastrs
Because many dealers ads extra charge on vehicles to make extra profits. They are too dumb to realize that they can sell more if they lower the excess charge and still make same or better profits. A win win for dealers and consumers!
It’s all about dealer greed that’s all it is dealer greed
Let’s stick together and not buy until the all the car prices come way down, and I mean way down!!
Buy when they set prices reflecting that there's no demand, F150 should be less than 40
Not greed, inflation! And lack of marketing skills from the domestic auto industry!
O% interest isn't a discount when the price of the car is still 80k - 90k dollars.
Give it a 50% discount from the sale price. I'll buy the tundra truck.
Fantastic information
And presentation
🎉🎉
This is the response for scrapping Diesel cars with less than 50'000 miles on the tachometer a decade ago for not being enough environment friendly. Now, you would like to have them back, don't you?
Hope so,Prices will have to come down,They are way overpriced
What are these buyers thinking?
Where is the brain that said let's ask MSRP+many other fees?
Reduce the cost of high Rents and mortgages, costly groceries and raise the hourly wages and the Car market will bounce back nicely.
Huge discounts wear vehicles $100,000. You’re taking 10 off you’re paying 90 that’s not a huge discount it’s still in the unaffordability ranch.
Cut the price to a 1/3 and maybe sht will sell 😂😂😂😂
Betting those v8 vehicles aren't worth it now, since they're sitting in those dealership lots.
Maybe give up 2-4 cylinders & go electric, you might save some much needed cash in the long run?
What am I saying? You'll just claim "smiles per gallon" while complaining about gas prices under your breath.
Have fun getting your vehicles repossessed
GAS GUZZLERS Truck, they never come close to Manufactures MPG
Had a Honda CRV, wife liked the Smaller HRV, I call the TIN CAN
CRV gas mileage 31 MPG Per Gallon, The Compact HRV 28 MPG
Feel like I'm in a tin can, and can't even engage the Seat belt, it's down and hard to lock, I of a !00 things wrong
For car dealer they ripping the people off I went to buy 2018 honda crv over hundred thousand miles on it sticker price over 20 k they come back to total 26 k plus interest i said too much manager came he dropped to 20k plus interest i said again no then he ask me price your number i wrote 18k out of the door they said no I walked out
Not too long ago you could buy a Camry for the price of a Corolla these days.
Will c how far the price drop so we know how much customers r being cheat off.
I don't feel sorry for the car market. I bet the CEO's didn't take a pay cut. Can't sell cars that are 25% over priced to begin with. Time will tell. Just remember when people stop paying the high prices then maybe the market will follow.
You pay 60,000 for a truck that has problems with the engine at 70,000 miles , something is wrong here… and it’s across with all mamufaturers .
It's simple if your customers can't afford they can't buy. Also quality is in the crapper
When the average USA income is 37,600 dollars how do these automakers expect anyone to buy their cars after the 1 percent rich people buy the 100,000 dollar cars!
Even if the automakers make cars again between 20K to 30k most people will have to make sacrifices in living to make monthly payments plus insurance plus gas
What are these automakers thinking?
I have no sympathies for these car dealers. I have bought new cars with a trade-in prior to the pandemic monthly payments $700 bought a 2019 jeep compass in 2018 after the pandemic these car has increased tremendously overpriced 78,000 for a truck is ridiculous and I was told that with a trade-in and my monthly payment would be $1200 a month. I said never mind. I'll just keep what I got. This has been a loss with all the maintenance with a $700 monthly payment and a 72 month term.
People loss so much money on a new car why buy one . Im 61 years old and only have ever had one new truck never aging buy used pay cash .
I bought a brand new tundra truck for 30k back in 2001.
Now I can't even buy a brand new tundra truck for the same price because it's 80k-100k now. 😮😮.
Toyota can keep it in storage. Lol
RAM also killed itself when it did away with the 1500 V8 HEMI engine.
I'm own two older model cars, 2011 & 2014. One of which has been sketchy for reliability. A German brand and an American brand. Guess which on has given me the most grief? 😊
The American brand 😂
@vernahunter4601 Correct! The 2014 Dodge. 🙂
Hey dealers, greed is a beach!!!
All the meatheads that went out and paid top dollar for these... The crash was bound to come. I will jump on a deal in the next few months.
Price are too damn high. Not too many people can afford it….