@@matthewyang7893 I tried doing Sovtsky Soyuz vs North Caralina, but North Carolina would be at a disadvantge Because project 23 is way bigger than North Carolina.
@@latoyagooden8371 I did project 23 VS the planned south Dakota class that was cancelled in the 1920s. It had 12 16 inch main battery but was comparatively slower and had less tech.
@@toddwebb7521 since she was, to all purposes, a "bigger Bismarck" I'm going to say that it was her fire control center, since bigger guns equals more vibrations.
youtube has been recomendign a whole slew of your old videos to me after you started on dreadnaughts again, listening to you talk about how to rebuild historical ships in game is wierdly entertaining.
The problem with this type of ships is that when the AI chickened out it always "give us the ass" making this type of turret arrangement useless. The ship AI itself doesn't know how the ship is designed.
A pair of What-if's that I would like to see. Bismarck v Richelieu The British planned N-3/G-3 pattern vessels versus the Yamato. The N-3 being the Battleship-counter part to the Battlecruiser G-3 as was pre-WW1 British Admirality thinking.
Can you try Renown v Scharnhorst (with 11” guns) - Will Scharnhorst’s smaller but more numerous guns and heavy armour be better than Renown’s fewer big guns and lighter armour?
While under repair from January-August 1940 after being mined in December 1939, Nelson had her aft 6-inch directors replaced by a pair of octuple 2-pounder "pom-pom" mounts and another was added on the quarterdeck. She was also fitted with a Type 279 early-warning radar.
Can we get the Sovetsky Soyuz vs the Bismarck? Bismark should be fairly obvious Heres what I could find on Sovetsky Soyuz Displacement: 59-60,000 tons standard load; 65,000 full Propulsion: Single geared steam turbines Fuel: She ran on oil, so whatever you want Boilers: 6, 3 to each funnel Range: 14,000 km, tho doesnt matter too much Armament: 3 triple 16in in an ABX format 6 dual 6in 6 dual 4in Loaders: Her main guns fired about 2-2.6 shots per minute, so probably about 25 second reload time Turret Traverse: Electrically powered Rangefinding: Stereoscopic V Armor: 16.7 main belt 8.7 fore belt 7.1 aft belt 6.1 main deck 2.6 deck extended 19.5 turret face 9.1 turret top 16.7 conning tower Barbettes: 16.7in thick, so probably barb 2-3 Speed: 28 knots Torp belt: based on what I could find, she had a fairly extensive torp belt, so probably 3-4, but since shes not facing any, it shouldn't matter too much Citadel: She actually used an armored citadel scheme rather than a turtleback scheme Radar: She didn't carry radar, as the soviets hadn't put any effort into developing it until later in the war. Hope thats enough, its all I could find without using wikipedia
Nelson did have Radar, the 276 was fitted in 1940 during time spent in repair, and that was upgraded to a 276M in 1941. Its mentioned in Norman Friedman's British Battleships 1906 - 1946, probably one of the most in depth examinations of British Battleships of that era ever printed.
Giving double fore belt to Richelieu is just madness. Its guns are all on the front, it's built for frontal engagements. That's an insane buff. Haven't seen how it goes, but clearly this is a way too large departure from the reality. Wasn't there a spot to move the funnel forward? You removed one funnel but left the one at the back.
Sweet. I was suprised to see you actually used my idea! Would you up for a historical Second Pacific Squadron versus torpedo boats? Seriously if you decide to do it read the full story - you'll get the kind of poor accuracy you will need to put into these ships.
Armour quality does seem a little silly, kind of wish instead of essentially multiplying armour thickness it was more about the chance to prevent a penetration and chance to not be damaged when bouncing shells. So the lower quality armour will break from constant small shell impacts while high quality armour will last much longer against them and have chances to prevent penetrations that would have happened. But thats a lot more stuff to code and such >
Here is a scenario just soo break the Battleship fun a Cruiser that shook the World vs a Cruiser that was meant to hold up to said ship IJN Mogami vs USS Helena(CL-50) For Mogami I will leave it to you to decide on the guns 🙂 Love the content keep up the good work
One thing to note is that Richelieu had more armor than Iowa... (In most places...) The Iowa had better systems (until Richelieu got her upgrade) (Also, part two shows why controlling one of the ships is not a good idea... The AI vs AI is more balanced)
The devs still need to fix the formulas relating to torp avoidence as ships have magical turns still ... but still such an incredible game and the talent and work to produce this has amazing.
The devs really need to think about including hulls/superstructures that allow players to duplicate historically built ships. It's sad that they have so many "might have been" hulls/superstructures while it's extremely difficult to construct ships using real designs. A match-up against King George V (commissioned in 1940, like Richelieu) would have been a more even match than against Nelson (commissioned in 1927). Also, Richelieu didn't get her radar until her 1943 refit at the New York Naval Shipyard; as designed she wasn't supposed to have one (and even when radar was installed it wasn't a fire control radar but a short-range SA-2 search radar designed for use aboard small craft like PT Boats, completely unsuited to directing gunfire).
Even though the Nelson was older the British had notoriously good armor so it probably would have been more even in terms of quality but still a fun video
The Nelson's have long been my favorite BBs. Their oddness attracts me. And, while it's hard to believe, they were the RN's most effective BBs in WWII.
Speaking of super cruisers: Alaska versus a modernised Scharnhorst 1944. Basically give Scharnhorst a modern steering gear (as she received in 1942), an updated FuMo 24 search radar, modern range finder equipment and such. How would she fare against a faster firing and heavier salvo, but lesser armored US super cruiser. And perhaps do the same with an salvaged Gneisenau 1944 again, but instead of the old 9x 28cm SK/C34 main guns give her the intended 6x 38cm SK/C34 guns.
I don't understand why the Developer didn't made the hulls or the Towers of the most popular Ships. It should be a no brainer. The main Customers of this Game are Naval Nerds.
@@Stealth17Gaming A lot of the towers seemed to be placeholders early on, but they havent really been changed apart from the russian ones. They also screwed up the american ones and they don't connect anymore. Maybe they'll fix it once they're done with the campaign? who knows
She should have light shells for the Nelson, that was the big experiment with her guns, lighter, high velocity shells. Also, yes, she should have Radar, the type 276 to be exact, refitted to her in 1940 after she ran into a mine and had to go in for repairs and then modernised again in 1941 to the 276M.
Looks like the richelieu has the same problem some of the british ships had at jutland. So accurate that when your targeting is off by a bit, you miss completely.
Doesn't the fore belt and aft belt say it is the 'extention' of the belt, meaning the portion of the ship ahead and behind the main belt. That would mean it isn't the frontal or aft citadel protection (the transverse protection), but rather the protection of the section of the hull that, under the all-or-nothing scheme should be entirely unprotected, or at best splinter protected. Now, I don't have the game so I have only been able to glimpse the text a few times, so I could very well be wrong.
come on Nelson! us brits can show em how to do it lol. i agree with you though stealth, Richelieu is a nice looking ship and i love the name. would be good if the game allowed a more planned attack starting position, in this case both bow in or head on as some might say. or even better would be a function where you can set an AI ship to attack/defend/sail in a certain way eg. head on attack or broadside attack. this way you could put the 2 against each other and open up so many possibilities without compromising setup... just my opinion. love these vids regardless
A little bit of info for Nelson and radar. "On December 4, while entering Loch Ewe, Nelson struck a magnetic mine that had been laid by U-31. Causing extensive damage and flooding, the explosion forced the ship to be taken to the yard for repairs. Nelson was not available for service until August 1940. While in the yard, Nelson received several upgrades including the addition of a Type 284 radar. After supporting Operation Claymore in Norway on March 2, 1941, the ship began protecting convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic. " ( www.thoughtco.com/battleship-hms-nelson-2361541 )
I just went and did this battle with desings as close to spec as i could get, with secondaries, (written at 1:56 in so i dont know how stealth did yet, also how do i save and send designs, or is that not a thing yet?) Anyways after 3 battles Nelson was completely nuked each time from 20km, 15km, and 5km. And yes i even incorporated the appropriate ranges and was able to get each ship within 5-10t under their actual weight. Just took a little messing with armor values within a reasonable expectation of what the true armor would be irl for actual balancing based on the designs of the ship. Too bad Richelieu never saw open water combat against the Kreigsmarine, it would've probably done some amazing things in the Pacific too
You know what would be fun to see, something pretty uneven. The German bc Gneisenau caught roaming the north Atlantic transport ship routes by the Iowa. Not just interested to see how the ai does with both but also how you would take on the Iowa in a inferior bc.
Well if historical Nelson and Rodney never got a refit with really good late war fire control wheras a post war Richlieu is going to have really good fire control. If you ignore historicity and give them similar fire control Nelson has more armour and bigger guns. So basically should be a curb stomp one way or the other.
Must be because of the distance of the camera from the ship. There's actually a short delay in the explosion and the sound when firing cannons in real life, depending on your distance and such.
i think the weight balance problome you got could maybe come from that most of the moderne warships got theire planes and launcher in the back and because there not there that wait and space isnt calculatet in when decining
The Battle of the Sisters: Fusō & Yamashiro vs Nelson & Rodney /// 2v2 It's late 1941, the British Admiralty has agreed to send the HMS Nelson and HMS Rodney to the far-east to reinforce their presence instead of sending HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales--the thought being that the two sister ships should compliment each other well with regards to performance and firepower. The Japanese are waiting and have set a trap--while the main strike force sent to Hawaii is commencing the raid on Pearl Harbor, the Fusō and Yamashiro have been dispatched to the Indian Ocean to blockade any reinforcements being sent via the Suez Canal. The pairs of ships both have the same maximum speed of 23 knots while their armament could also be considered a draw. It's a battle of sisters as the aging dreadnought style ships hold their ground against the advancing British treaty-built battleships. Fusō-class battleship Displacement 35,900 long tons (36,500 t) (full load) Length 202.7 m (665 ft) (overall) Beam 28.7 m (94 ft 2 in) Installed power 24 × Miyahara water-tube boilers 40,000 shp (30,000 kW) Propulsion 4 × shafts; 2 × steam turbine sets Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph) Range 8,000 nmi (15,000 km; 9,200 mi) at 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph) Complement 1,198 Armament 6 × twin 356 mm (14 in) guns 16 × single 152 mm (6 in) guns 6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes Armor Waterline belt 229-305 mm (9-12 in) Deck: 32-51 mm (1.3-2.0 in) Gun turrets: 229-279 mm (9-11 in) Barbettes: 203-305 mm (8-12 in) Conning tower: 351 mm (13.8 in) Nelson-class battleship Displacement 37,780 long tons (38,390 t) (full load) Length 709 ft 10 in (216.4 m) o/a Beam 106 ft (32.3 m) Installed power 8 × Admiralty 3-drum boilers 45,000 shp (34,000 kW) Propulsion 2 shafts; 2 geared steam turbines Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph) Range 7,000 nmi (13,000 km; 8,100 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph) Complement 1,361 (flagship) Armament 3 × triple 16 in (406 mm) guns 6 × twin 6 in (152 mm) guns 6 × single 4.7 in (120 mm) AA guns 8 × single 2 pdr (40 mm (1.6 in)) AA guns 2 × 24.5 in (622 mm) torpedo tubes Armour Waterline belt: 13-14 in (330-356 mm) Deck: 3.75-6.25 in (95-159 mm) Barbettes: 12-15 in (305-381 mm) Gun turrets: 9-16 in (229-406 mm) Conning tower: 12-14 in (305-356 mm) Bulkheads: 4-12 in (102-305 mm)
I seriously doubt that the fusos are gonna win,the NelRods have much more firepower,much better protection,equal speed,Though it will be interesting to see if there will be some magazine detonations due to the fact that there are lots of magazines on the fuso and yamashiro
Did the Nelson REALLY? win the 2nd battle? Would a competent commander, having kept his distance in a gun battle, charge at the enemy when he runs out of ammo for his main batteries?
Extremely dumb question, but why do you include a *”SUBSCRIBE”* in your videos now? Again, kind of dumb of me to ask, but i’m genuinly qurious as to why - a person dead tired of ”like and subscribe” being on every video he watches
Right, thanks. I personally never thought that asking people would actually work, though that is a me-problem. Just… try not to do it too much? Again, thank you for answering though, most just ignore questions like that
It’s no problem, of course! Last time, but it’s a me-problem and that shouldn’t hinder you in any way. After all, what’s one wave towards an entire ocean? If anything, i am just slightly worried that you’d overdo it because i have seen many great channels fall into that abyss, either by spamming animations or nearly begging. I don’t expect you to do just that, but i have been surprised before
I think Sovtsky Soyuz vs Bismark would be a good fight, because project 23 was made to compete against the Bismarck class battleship.
I agree
That was one of the fights I wanted, except against Tirpitz since she was actually stationed in the Northern waters.
@@matthewyang7893 I tried doing Sovtsky Soyuz vs North Caralina, but North Carolina would be at a disadvantge Because project 23 is way bigger than North Carolina.
@@latoyagooden8371 I did project 23 VS the planned south Dakota class that was cancelled in the 1920s. It had 12 16 inch main battery but was comparatively slower and had less tech.
"These guns are so big, you'll break break your shitter..."
"Sold!"
One fire trial later...
"I thought they were joking..."
Makes me wonder what kind of stuff Yamato broke when firing
@@toddwebb7521 since she was, to all purposes, a "bigger Bismarck" I'm going to say that it was her fire control center, since bigger guns equals more vibrations.
youtube has been recomendign a whole slew of your old videos to me after you started on dreadnaughts again, listening to you talk about how to rebuild historical ships in game is wierdly entertaining.
stealth you made me buy the game and i must thank u
Same here
Cool, have fun!
The problem with this type of ships is that when the AI chickened out it always "give us the ass" making this type of turret arrangement useless. The ship AI itself doesn't know how the ship is designed.
That's what she said.
A pair of What-if's that I would like to see.
Bismarck v Richelieu
The British planned N-3/G-3 pattern vessels versus the Yamato. The N-3 being the Battleship-counter part to the Battlecruiser G-3 as was pre-WW1 British Admirality thinking.
Hey Stealth I think Roma class vs Bismarck Would be a great battle between them Axis VS Axis
One legendary ship against another
Can you try Renown v Scharnhorst (with 11” guns) - Will Scharnhorst’s smaller but more numerous guns and heavy armour be better than Renown’s fewer big guns and lighter armour?
While under repair from January-August 1940 after being mined in December 1939, Nelson had her aft 6-inch directors replaced by a pair of octuple 2-pounder "pom-pom" mounts and another was added on the quarterdeck. She was also fitted with a Type 279 early-warning radar.
Can we get the Sovetsky Soyuz vs the Bismarck?
Bismark should be fairly obvious
Heres what I could find on Sovetsky Soyuz
Displacement: 59-60,000 tons standard load; 65,000 full
Propulsion: Single geared steam turbines
Fuel: She ran on oil, so whatever you want
Boilers: 6, 3 to each funnel
Range: 14,000 km, tho doesnt matter too much
Armament:
3 triple 16in in an ABX format
6 dual 6in
6 dual 4in
Loaders: Her main guns fired about 2-2.6 shots per minute, so probably about 25 second reload time
Turret Traverse: Electrically powered
Rangefinding: Stereoscopic V
Armor:
16.7 main belt
8.7 fore belt
7.1 aft belt
6.1 main deck
2.6 deck extended
19.5 turret face
9.1 turret top
16.7 conning tower
Barbettes: 16.7in thick, so probably barb 2-3
Speed: 28 knots
Torp belt: based on what I could find, she had a fairly extensive torp belt, so probably 3-4, but since shes not facing any, it shouldn't matter too much
Citadel: She actually used an armored citadel scheme rather than a turtleback scheme
Radar: She didn't carry radar, as the soviets hadn't put any effort into developing it until later in the war.
Hope thats enough, its all I could find without using wikipedia
Good idea, and good info too!
Nelson did have Radar, the 276 was fitted in 1940 during time spent in repair, and that was upgraded to a 276M in 1941. Its mentioned in Norman Friedman's British Battleships 1906 - 1946, probably one of the most in depth examinations of British Battleships of that era ever printed.
Giving double fore belt to Richelieu is just madness. Its guns are all on the front, it's built for frontal engagements. That's an insane buff. Haven't seen how it goes, but clearly this is a way too large departure from the reality.
Wasn't there a spot to move the funnel forward? You removed one funnel but left the one at the back.
Me when stealth says 516 damage:SHEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASH
Stealth:”The Nelson can only go 23 Knots” Also Stealth:The Nelson is very swift”
Sweet. I was suprised to see you actually used my idea! Would you up for a historical Second Pacific Squadron versus torpedo boats? Seriously if you decide to do it read the full story - you'll get the kind of poor accuracy you will need to put into these ships.
Armour quality does seem a little silly, kind of wish instead of essentially multiplying armour thickness it was more about the chance to prevent a penetration and chance to not be damaged when bouncing shells.
So the lower quality armour will break from constant small shell impacts while high quality armour will last much longer against them and have chances to prevent penetrations that would have happened. But thats a lot more stuff to code and such >
Maybe when the game gets closer to complete we will get something like that, but regardless it's already a good "placeholder" system for now.
I would love Bismarck vs Yamato btw.
Nice video
Ahh, this reminds me of the good old NavyField times with it's block-shoting Nelson's :-D
Here is a scenario just soo break the Battleship fun a Cruiser that shook the World vs a Cruiser that was meant to hold up to said ship
IJN Mogami vs USS Helena(CL-50)
For Mogami I will leave it to you to decide on the guns 🙂
Love the content keep up the good work
One thing to note is that Richelieu had more armor than Iowa...
(In most places...)
The Iowa had better systems (until Richelieu got her upgrade)
(Also, part two shows why controlling one of the ships is not a good idea...
The AI vs AI is more balanced)
The devs still need to fix the formulas relating to torp avoidence as ships have magical turns still ... but still such an incredible game and the talent and work to produce this has amazing.
The devs really need to think about including hulls/superstructures that allow players to duplicate historically built ships. It's sad that they have so many "might have been" hulls/superstructures while it's extremely difficult to construct ships using real designs.
A match-up against King George V (commissioned in 1940, like Richelieu) would have been a more even match than against Nelson (commissioned in 1927). Also, Richelieu didn't get her radar until her 1943 refit at the New York Naval Shipyard; as designed she wasn't supposed to have one (and even when radar was installed it wasn't a fire control radar but a short-range SA-2 search radar designed for use aboard small craft like PT Boats, completely unsuited to directing gunfire).
Hey hello. Can you do Bismarck vs Roma please? It would be great to see
Even though the Nelson was older the British had notoriously good armor so it probably would have been more even in terms of quality but still a fun video
11:04 "without major structural damage except... toilets... well shit" Yes indeed
The Richelieu captain watched the movie Battleship and pulled the anchor manover lol
The Nelson did have gunnery radar. It was fitted while being repaired in around 1941.
The Nelson's have long been my favorite BBs. Their oddness attracts me. And, while it's hard to believe, they were the RN's most effective BBs in WWII.
Speaking of super cruisers: Alaska versus a modernised Scharnhorst 1944. Basically give Scharnhorst a modern steering gear (as she received in 1942), an updated FuMo 24 search radar, modern range finder equipment and such. How would she fare against a faster firing and heavier salvo, but lesser armored US super cruiser. And perhaps do the same with an salvaged Gneisenau 1944 again, but instead of the old 9x 28cm SK/C34 main guns give her the intended 6x 38cm SK/C34 guns.
I don't understand why the Developer didn't made the hulls or the Towers of the most popular Ships.
It should be a no brainer. The main Customers of this Game are Naval Nerds.
That's my thinking too. Not sure what towers they're going off of. Anybody?
@@Stealth17Gaming A lot of the towers seemed to be placeholders early on, but they havent really been changed apart from the russian ones. They also screwed up the american ones and they don't connect anymore. Maybe they'll fix it once they're done with the campaign? who knows
She should have light shells for the Nelson, that was the big experiment with her guns, lighter, high velocity shells. Also, yes, she should have Radar, the type 276 to be exact, refitted to her in 1940 after she ran into a mine and had to go in for repairs and then modernised again in 1941 to the 276M.
For the forward weight problem i would maybe try to put torpedoes there ... underwater one dont mess up the look and can be just denied for use.
Would love to see the Queen Elizabeth class Vs the Bayern class
Looks like the richelieu has the same problem some of the british ships had at jutland. So accurate that when your targeting is off by a bit, you miss completely.
Doesn't the fore belt and aft belt say it is the 'extention' of the belt, meaning the portion of the ship ahead and behind the main belt. That would mean it isn't the frontal or aft citadel protection (the transverse protection), but rather the protection of the section of the hull that, under the all-or-nothing scheme should be entirely unprotected, or at best splinter protected.
Now, I don't have the game so I have only been able to glimpse the text a few times, so I could very well be wrong.
Can u please do gneisenau and scharnhorst vs north carolina cleveland and atlanta
the game audio for this episode seems kinda weird. i swear I can hear the sound of a flash fire at 48:09!
come on Nelson! us brits can show em how to do it lol. i agree with you though stealth, Richelieu is a nice looking ship and i love the name. would be good if the game allowed a more planned attack starting position, in this case both bow in or head on as some might say. or even better would be a function where you can set an AI ship to attack/defend/sail in a certain way eg. head on attack or broadside attack. this way you could put the 2 against each other and open up so many possibilities without compromising setup... just my opinion. love these vids regardless
Can we do something that is NOT battleships next?
We will. It's a cruiser battle
@@Stealth17Gaming Thank you
Done Nelson dirty, it received radar later in life.
What about richelau bb and dunkirk bc against nelson bb and n3 bc.
All of them have their armament mainly on front.
What about an Iowa vs a Montana? Let's see if speed wins against three more guns!
Yay. Another stealth video!!!!
A little bit of info for Nelson and radar.
"On December 4, while entering Loch Ewe, Nelson struck a magnetic mine that had been laid by U-31. Causing extensive damage and flooding, the explosion forced the ship to be taken to the yard for repairs. Nelson was not available for service until August 1940. While in the yard, Nelson received several upgrades including the addition of a Type 284 radar. After supporting Operation Claymore in Norway on March 2, 1941, the ship began protecting convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic. "
( www.thoughtco.com/battleship-hms-nelson-2361541 )
How about Fuso vs West Virginia
how about the the A-150 class vs the Sovetsky Soyuz class
I just went and did this battle with desings as close to spec as i could get, with secondaries, (written at 1:56 in so i dont know how stealth did yet, also how do i save and send designs, or is that not a thing yet?) Anyways after 3 battles Nelson was completely nuked each time from 20km, 15km, and 5km. And yes i even incorporated the appropriate ranges and was able to get each ship within 5-10t under their actual weight. Just took a little messing with armor values within a reasonable expectation of what the true armor would be irl for actual balancing based on the designs of the ship. Too bad Richelieu never saw open water combat against the Kreigsmarine, it would've probably done some amazing things in the Pacific too
Richelieu served with the eastern fleet and even make port in Perth Australia. During one opération she was the escort battleship to USS Saratoga!
@@fredericlepeltier3435 learn something new everyday, I think I was partially also thinking of Dunkerque as well.
You know what would be fun to see, something pretty uneven.
The German bc Gneisenau caught roaming the north Atlantic transport ship routes by the Iowa.
Not just interested to see how the ai does with both but also how you would take on the Iowa in a inferior bc.
How did you design the enemies ship? From what ive seen you cant do that.
It seams like when a compartment that holds something like an engine turns red that engine is out for the rest of the fight
Nagato vs Admiral General Aladeen would be epic
Well if historical Nelson and Rodney never got a refit with really good late war fire control wheras a post war Richlieu is going to have really good fire control.
If you ignore historicity and give them similar fire control Nelson has more armour and bigger guns.
So basically should be a curb stomp one way or the other.
Both of them is good at attacking and rushing but really suck when they are fought back and hard to retreat since their main gun is at in the front.
B65 project versus Alaska vs Stalingrad vs Hood .. battles with the different super cruisers
I imagine Richelieu's massive speed advantage, would bear fruit.
the saga continues
Is it just me, or the sound of gunfire is really late?
Must be because of the distance of the camera from the ship. There's actually a short delay in the explosion and the sound when firing cannons in real life, depending on your distance and such.
@@omega5708 nah, not in this game. It hasn't got such a good physics. Watch other videos, there is nothing like that.
YESS!! I wanted it for a long time
Seems extra ammo or less bulkheads would be needed as they run out of ammo before doing anything significant at normal fighting ranges.
i think the weight balance problome you got could maybe come from that most of the moderne warships got theire planes and launcher in the back and because there not there that wait and space isnt calculatet in when decining
The Battle of the Sisters:
Fusō & Yamashiro vs Nelson & Rodney /// 2v2
It's late 1941, the British Admiralty has agreed to send the HMS Nelson and HMS Rodney to the far-east to reinforce their presence instead of sending HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales--the thought being that the two sister ships should compliment each other well with regards to performance and firepower. The Japanese are waiting and have set a trap--while the main strike force sent to Hawaii is commencing the raid on Pearl Harbor, the Fusō and Yamashiro have been dispatched to the Indian Ocean to blockade any reinforcements being sent via the Suez Canal. The pairs of ships both have the same maximum speed of 23 knots while their armament could also be considered a draw. It's a battle of sisters as the aging dreadnought style ships hold their ground against the advancing British treaty-built battleships.
Fusō-class battleship
Displacement
35,900 long tons (36,500 t) (full load)
Length
202.7 m (665 ft) (overall)
Beam 28.7 m (94 ft 2 in)
Installed power
24 × Miyahara water-tube boilers
40,000 shp (30,000 kW)
Propulsion 4 × shafts; 2 × steam turbine sets
Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph)
Range 8,000 nmi (15,000 km; 9,200 mi) at 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph)
Complement 1,198
Armament
6 × twin 356 mm (14 in) guns
16 × single 152 mm (6 in) guns
6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
Armor
Waterline belt 229-305 mm (9-12 in)
Deck: 32-51 mm (1.3-2.0 in)
Gun turrets: 229-279 mm (9-11 in)
Barbettes: 203-305 mm (8-12 in)
Conning tower: 351 mm (13.8 in)
Nelson-class battleship
Displacement
37,780 long tons (38,390 t) (full load)
Length 709 ft 10 in (216.4 m) o/a
Beam 106 ft (32.3 m)
Installed power
8 × Admiralty 3-drum boilers
45,000 shp (34,000 kW)
Propulsion 2 shafts; 2 geared steam turbines
Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph)
Range 7,000 nmi (13,000 km; 8,100 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)
Complement
1,361 (flagship)
Armament
3 × triple 16 in (406 mm) guns
6 × twin 6 in (152 mm) guns
6 × single 4.7 in (120 mm) AA guns
8 × single 2 pdr (40 mm (1.6 in)) AA guns
2 × 24.5 in (622 mm) torpedo tubes
Armour
Waterline belt: 13-14 in (330-356 mm)
Deck: 3.75-6.25 in (95-159 mm)
Barbettes: 12-15 in (305-381 mm)
Gun turrets: 9-16 in (229-406 mm)
Conning tower: 12-14 in (305-356 mm)
Bulkheads: 4-12 in (102-305 mm)
I seriously doubt that the fusos are gonna win,the NelRods have much more firepower,much better protection,equal speed,Though it will be interesting to see if there will be some magazine detonations due to the fact that there are lots of magazines on the fuso and yamashiro
Keep up the good work!
Maybe you can make SMS König vs. HMS Iron Duke
I dunno if it's possible but I'd like to see SMS Blücher's last stand
Bismarck VS Amagi classe fast battleship, I'm curious of how it can looks
If this was WoW the Nelson would fire, thread through every odds chart, and critical hit the Richelieu despite the stupidity of such things.
What would happen if you downsized Richelieu? It would scale down the hull, maybe it would be easier to balance it?
Tirpitz vs. Littorio as part of Operation Achse
Do the Rodney vs the Richelieu
USS California vs HMS king George V or prince of wales or HMS Neptune USS texas
For Queen Anne#s Mansions use Advanced Towers
I was thinking mabye warspite/queen Elizabeth vs bayern/baden
Did the Nelson REALLY? win the 2nd battle? Would a competent commander, having kept his distance in a gun battle, charge at the enemy when he runs out of ammo for his main batteries?
So is this more history-true or competitive???
Roma vs Richelieu? the Littorio class was made to compete with french designs
You probably reproduce the dunkerque with setting of Richelieu.
This isn’t so problematic because Richelieu is basically a bigger à Dunkerque
if you would use the dates the ship you are building were comiisiond you would have the right modules
Maybe Russian Sevastopol (Gangut 1914) vs German Nassau?
Hood vs Vanguard
Alaska vs one of the German pocket battleships
ARA Rivadavia vs Almirante Latorre (Clash on the South)
do the battle of the North Cape
I'm still calling for Nelson vs nagato
Your missing the Queen Anna's mansion from the list?
What?
@@Stealth17Gaming I remember that tower being in an earlier version of the game
Sovetsky Soyuz-class battleship vs tripiz
Nelson vs Bismarck
Iowa vs yamato is cool in my opinion
Already done
Littorio class vs KGV class
UAD needs to fix their weight offset, there air. I way you got a 12% aft offset if the majority of your weight is in the front 💀💀💀
Nice!
all or nothing means no for or aft belt and deck. Not just Citadel IV.
Uss Massachusetts vs Jean Bart in a more of a fair fight
Bismarck vs HMS vanguard, the most equal ships in ww2, in my opinion
Nelson has radar @Stealth17Gaming just a gen 1
Richelieu should be Gen 2 cause she was in the free french aka American tech
Dunekerque vs Scharnhorst
I think if your going to give the French the US late war update then you should build the Nelson Hull off Rodney's refit history
Ah yes nice
Please do it like Jingles and call it the Richi-lu-lu... and if it only to piss off the French^^
Extremely dumb question, but why do you include a *”SUBSCRIBE”* in your videos now? Again, kind of dumb of me to ask, but i’m genuinly qurious as to why
- a person dead tired of ”like and subscribe” being on every video he watches
Because it helps when you actually ask people.
Right, thanks. I personally never thought that asking people would actually work, though that is a me-problem. Just… try not to do it too much? Again, thank you for answering though, most just ignore questions like that
@@randomsomewhat-kinda-quasi1065 I post it usually once a video. It's a 4 second clip. Hope it won't bother you too much.
It’s no problem, of course! Last time, but it’s a me-problem and that shouldn’t hinder you in any way. After all, what’s one wave towards an entire ocean? If anything, i am just slightly worried that you’d overdo it because i have seen many great channels fall into that abyss, either by spamming animations or nearly begging. I don’t expect you to do just that, but i have been surprised before
İJN Nagato vs USS West Virginia