I'm really new to recording and mixing metal, especially vocals, and these tips were super helpful in cleaning up my sound a bit and also gave me some confidence in my screaming. (raw audio playback made me feel like I was way worse than I probably am, but also the anxiety of disturbing my neighbors doesn't help.) I removed all the plugins I had and used a cubase compressor called Squasher and that really helped a bit with a few tweaks, then added some other things like you suggested. Thanks!!
"They sound awful and embarrassing, all vocals sound bad with no effects on it in my opinion" This made me feel good about myself 😀 Ive always loved doing vocals to some of my favorite songs but never recorded them or thought they were worth much because i never realized they need to go through the efects and layers to sound so good. ive always thought about it tho. Lol what a goober, i just thought our favorite vocalists sounded that way 😂
Canadians always apologies lol. But as a self learner it sounds good! I do recommend basic fundamentals with how compressors and limiters work. Sometimes having a hot signal and controlling it can sound different or more aggressive.
I think that gain staging process is something to consider since your vocals sound a lot louder with effects, but still a big fan and post-process sounds amazing as always
Dude, this is so awesome! Would you do a mix tutorial for a whole track? The mastering part would be pretty dope as well. It's the part that fucks me up the most, as I never got how I should use limiters or clippers.
There is too much air going out in your vocals, that's why you don't control the sound and that's why you need the monster. If you'll use your diaphgram and compress your vocal folds a bit you will have much fuller sound. Hope that will help :)
@@dolorexx It just sounds more powerfull, it is just physics. If you do not compress with your vocal folds it is gonna sound really breathy and you can do it for a shorter time. I am not a professional vocalist but when compressing like the stream of air is more focused that is why it is more powerful
You mean to tell me there are peeps that do the whole song in one shot, with the record button pushed? Whenever I hit record I immediately forget how to play that single part, let alone any semblance of song structure
Great video! 😍 I would agree with record one line at a time... It will take longer, but the results will be better. I try to do one vocal of every second line, then a second vocal with second lines... Make sense? Either way, recording one line at a time will help with the mixing process 👍 Also, if you make your main vocals clean, it will also help with mixing. If it takes a few takes, do it. Find the best one... Don't settle for first recording. Have different versions... This sounds great!!! Thank you for the video👍
Hey Andrew, big fan of your videos, I had a question for you. When will you do another Reacting to your Music livestream, because after months of searching for it, I have found an track I made a long time ago back in school. I would really love to see what you think. Anyways, thanks again. Bye.
Any I..... can do anyhing nowadays..... Live music is the best sieve, nothing like one shoot tracks.....long live the real talented people..... L........s!!!!!
Hey man you should usually record at least 2 double ups of the same track panned half left and half right for a fuller sound. Some people also use a main one panned in the middle and the two other ones. But you make it sound great with the two tracks you have!
I would never personaly use the pitch shifting plugin, I just dont want my vocals to be fake, but i see why others use it if they cant get the vocals they want by themselves. The rest of the plugins sound great thoug i might check em out.
So I’m a bit confused, do I record two vocal tracks and put the widener on the second track and do I do that for all the vocals or can I just have one center track and have the second one only do emphasis words to make them pop, or should I record 2 identical takes panned slightly left and right and a 3rd one for the variations panned center to make them pop? As a guitar player who knows nothing about recording vocals this shits kinda hard lmao
Quick question. The mic is it covered and rapped with a pop filter? Cause mine is without both and when I scream it just sound blown but when I talk or rap it's normal.. ima get both cover and pop filter..
Exactly what i was looking for. Im a vocalist for many years now, never recording myself and always having too many surprises in the studio. Pre Production was and is always very rough only to get a feeling for the song. But having a solid mix in pre could change the whole workflow for me. Another thing i really need is a proper headphone mix so you dont sound like shit (i agree, all heavy vocals sound horrorible without effects). So with this video i would really need a headphone mix tutorial to get the voice in the right place right from the start and to hear what you are actually getting.
I'd say not particularly. The "monster" effect would mess with your notes and that would sound a little off. EQ, compression and reverb are most important to begin with, I think :)
I personally don't think your computer matters all that much. I have recorded on my laptop for a long time, and it worked fine. Get yourself accustomed to mixing, rather get good headphones, and the rest comes later.
that's when you straight up scream instead of doing false chord screams. I've done both and for the first, you just need way more air, so you can't hold em very long aswell. But you're kinda right, breathing technique is quite important aswell.
@@MindlessVocalists I mean you're kinda just straight up wrong. Mark from Kardavox Academy has talked about and proved countless times that you don't require more air for false chord vocals.
@@wollsmoth69 Think you read their comment wrong, my guy. They said that "straight up screaming" requires more air "that's when you straight up scream *instead* of doing false chord screams... *for the first,* you just need way more air"
every fucking metal mixing video: talking: 10% volume music: 1,000% volume. why yall keep making me regret getting really good speakers? you know, my houseplants shake when my music plays. fucking stop it
from experience I can say, it's fine as long as you warm up properly. I've done the loud screams for a few years. Caused me no damage but didn't feel comfortable doing them anymore. False chord screams just bear a lower risk, I'd say
@@Zymptif you do screams the right way you don’t really have to put them up. Maybe it’s a gaining issue with recording, but if you have your mix and put screams over it it shouldn’t take a lot of extra volume. It could also be that your whole mix is just to loud in the frequencies where the vocals are so they just get covered
I think it'd be cool if you did a video on full band mix as well, unless you already did that and i missed it lmao
I'm pretty sure he has, a while ago.
I'm really new to recording and mixing metal, especially vocals, and these tips were super helpful in cleaning up my sound a bit and also gave me some confidence in my screaming. (raw audio playback made me feel like I was way worse than I probably am, but also the anxiety of disturbing my neighbors doesn't help.) I removed all the plugins I had and used a cubase compressor called Squasher and that really helped a bit with a few tweaks, then added some other things like you suggested. Thanks!!
"They sound awful and embarrassing, all vocals sound bad with no effects on it in my opinion"
This made me feel good about myself 😀
Ive always loved doing vocals to some of my favorite songs but never recorded them or thought they were worth much because i never realized they need to go through the efects and layers to sound so good. ive always thought about it tho.
Lol what a goober, i just thought our favorite vocalists sounded that way 😂
could be cool for a 2023 revisit of this video with everything youve learned over the last 3 years
Asked about this in the Discord for an FAQ, but holy shit this is way better, thank you Papa Baena :)
The fact that you explaining it not as a professional, makes it better to understand for a rookie like me
You should do a full mix tutorial too. I need new plug in ideas
Canadians always apologies lol. But as a self learner it sounds good! I do recommend basic fundamentals with how compressors and limiters work. Sometimes having a hot signal and controlling it can sound different or more aggressive.
I really needed this man, thank you very much!!! You're indirectly helping my band hahaha
I think that gain staging process is something to consider since your vocals sound a lot louder with effects, but still a big fan and post-process sounds amazing as always
Dude, this is so awesome! Would you do a mix tutorial for a whole track? The mastering part would be pretty dope as well. It's the part that fucks me up the most, as I never got how I should use limiters or clippers.
Dude this is so interesting. I don't understand a lot of it lol I don't record but the really makes me want to get a pc and get into. Thanks Andrew!
Agreed you’re speaking a foreign language to me but i need to force myself to learn some of this shit. Any tips on using GarageBand for mixing??
That ugh, woulda sounded dope as an inhale screech
Congratulations, you’re the best, I’m very happy for you 😂😂 thanks for putting this out there, much love 🤓
Love to see that I am not the only one that records vox exactly like this!
Interesting! Might be fun to do a video in a year or two to see how your techniques have improved.
What year is this? I’m still recording using audacity
lol same
@@ArtyGeist i just started with audacity using playstation platinum headset lol
I use magix pro 🤣
Reaper here
Audacity is simple I like it but for more advanced recordings and mastering go into reaper or a diff daw
There is too much air going out in your vocals, that's why you don't control the sound and that's why you need the monster. If you'll use your diaphgram and compress your vocal folds a bit you will have much fuller sound. Hope that will help :)
wdym by compressing your vocal folds tho?
@@dolorexx It just sounds more powerfull, it is just physics. If you do not compress with your vocal folds it is gonna sound really breathy and you can do it for a shorter time. I am not a professional vocalist but when compressing like the stream of air is more focused that is why it is more powerful
Took me a year of screaming at the studio to figure this out, screams are wayyyyy better now 😂😅
You mean to tell me there are peeps that do the whole song in one shot, with the record button pushed? Whenever I hit record I immediately forget how to play that single part, let alone any semblance of song structure
Also spencers
same here. I was happy to see that I'm not the only who records like this :D
Great video! 😍
I would agree with record one line at a time... It will take longer, but the results will be better. I try to do one vocal of every second line, then a second vocal with second lines... Make sense?
Either way, recording one line at a time will help with the mixing process 👍
Also, if you make your main vocals clean, it will also help with mixing. If it takes a few takes, do it. Find the best one... Don't settle for first recording. Have different versions...
This sounds great!!!
Thank you for the video👍
Thank you so much man this was crazy helpful!
I’m going to use these tips in my upcoming vocal covers. Thank you Andrew!
Definitely need to see this cause my shit sounds like it's all blown out when I scream
Have any other videos like this up?
i tweeted out today that i will record a cover by the end of the year (which gives me under 2 months) and this is gonna help me i hope
Hey Andrew, big fan of your videos, I had a question for you.
When will you do another Reacting to your Music livestream, because after months of searching for it, I have found an track I made a long time ago back in school.
I would really love to see what you think.
Anyways, thanks again.
Bye.
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Thank you
What kind of scream is this? It’s badass
Really nice video, next do a Guitar tutorial :D
Any I..... can do anyhing nowadays..... Live music is the best sieve, nothing like one shoot tracks.....long live the real talented people..... L........s!!!!!
Hey man you should usually record at least 2 double ups of the same track panned half left and half right for a fuller sound. Some people also use a main one panned in the middle and the two other ones. But you make it sound great with the two tracks you have!
2 vocals, 1 panned left 1 panned right? I thought only heavy guitars do that
@@init1508 nah man that's hard left and hard right. It sounds good, most vocal tutorials recommended it
Using two panned vouces sounds airy and crisp but sounds better for a chorus than a verse. For a verse i always have a track centered
Would love you doing a whole song on this
I would never personaly use the pitch shifting plugin, I just dont want my vocals to be fake, but i see why others use it if they cant get the vocals they want by themselves. The rest of the plugins sound great thoug i might check em out.
I'd say, if you recorded your vocals, they're never "fake", effects are effects. But I absolutely see what you mean and it's fine to think that
He looks like the drummer of state champs
Thank you so much!
Needed this 🤘
Do you just plug the mic directly into your audio interface? Or do you have some hardware before that?
Love the shirt
I use jst gain reduction 2 ima have to try all these out as im new to mixing vocass
So I’m a bit confused, do I record two vocal tracks and put the widener on the second track and do I do that for all the vocals or can I just have one center track and have the second one only do emphasis words to make them pop, or should I record 2 identical takes panned slightly left and right and a 3rd one for the variations panned center to make them pop? As a guitar player who knows nothing about recording vocals this shits kinda hard lmao
Quick question. The mic is it covered and rapped with a pop filter? Cause mine is without both and when I scream it just sound blown but when I talk or rap it's normal.. ima get both cover and pop filter..
what kind of scream are you doing in the beginning? false chords?
Exactly what i was looking for. Im a vocalist for many years now, never recording myself and always having too many surprises in the studio. Pre Production was and is always very rough only to get a feeling for the song. But having a solid mix in pre could change the whole workflow for me. Another thing i really need is a proper headphone mix so you dont sound like shit (i agree, all heavy vocals sound horrorible without effects). So with this video i would really need a headphone mix tutorial to get the voice in the right place right from the start and to hear what you are actually getting.
Super helpful , thankxxxxx andrewwww
Thank you man
Would this also work for singing? You have any tips for that?
I'd say not particularly. The "monster" effect would mess with your notes and that would sound a little off. EQ, compression and reverb are most important to begin with, I think :)
What is your compression on the way in
I’m trying to do a crown the empire cover
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SHIRT lol
Do you use a pop filter? The plosives are pretty intense.
you could use a de-esser for that matter
Any body have an idea of what effects emmure uses on their vocals
What is a good computer for recording that isn’t going to cost an arm and a leg
River Sharkey do your self a favor and get a Mac. Or a realllly good pc. Or you will crash to home constantly
I personally don't think your computer matters all that much. I have recorded on my laptop for a long time, and it worked fine. Get yourself accustomed to mixing, rather get good headphones, and the rest comes later.
You do know you can remove those fade outs (the red thingies at the end of the tracks)?
in reaper you can just drag them with your courser. With right click you can change the shape
How do you stop your mic from peaking?
what equipment do i need, after having the interface, mic, software?
Does Reaper have instruments on it that you can use the keyboard to play?
how do i get beast i looked it up on my thing and nothing came up help plz
Are the stock plug ins not good enough to use for a legit song when using Reaper??
you can, it may be a bit more work, but you should be able to get the same result
i think your breath control is low because youre pushing too much :0
that's when you straight up scream instead of doing false chord screams. I've done both and for the first, you just need way more air, so you can't hold em very long aswell. But you're kinda right, breathing technique is quite important aswell.
@@MindlessVocalists I mean you're kinda just straight up wrong. Mark from Kardavox Academy has talked about and proved countless times that you don't require more air for false chord vocals.
@@wollsmoth69 Think you read their comment wrong, my guy. They said that "straight up screaming" requires more air
"that's when you straight up scream *instead* of doing false chord screams... *for the first,* you just need way more air"
@@MyNamesRevenge ah yeah I can't read. Fuck it
I have that shirt
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What dynamic mic would you recommend for a broke person?
Words of Heresy Official shure sm58 is great for the price. around $100
@@xSnope thank you
how to screen record reaper
@@dissonantharmonic it doesn't work with sound
Noice
this is amazing ! I want to record some covers, but I never had the ability to edit. now i can try
every fucking metal mixing video:
talking: 10% volume
music: 1,000% volume.
why yall keep making me regret getting really good speakers?
you know, my houseplants shake when my music plays.
fucking stop it
Can someone please recommend me a piano where I can like record me screaming and have the piano turn my scream into like a instrument 😂❤️
Please don’t destroy your voice. Are you sure you’re screaming correctly?
right? i have to bring my vocals up ALOT lol hearing that he doesnt bring up any db sounds kinda bad lol
from experience I can say, it's fine as long as you warm up properly. I've done the loud screams for a few years. Caused me no damage but didn't feel comfortable doing them anymore. False chord screams just bear a lower risk, I'd say
@@Zymptif you do screams the right way you don’t really have to put them up. Maybe it’s a gaining issue with recording, but if you have your mix and put screams over it it shouldn’t take a lot of extra volume. It could also be that your whole mix is just to loud in the frequencies where the vocals are so they just get covered
Beast seems a little..... not genuine.
Cool video but you didnt show how to record, just mix lol.
Democrat witch hunt?