5 Times Survivor Players Hacked Strategy
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Sandra not caring about Fairplay’s grandma and targeting him anyway is the most Sandra thing Sandra has ever done. The fact that she was actually in the right is just icing on the cake.
I remember Sandra saying that at the start of the season that Fairplay talked about his grandma died and when Thunder D came and talked about Fairplay’s grandma dying, she became so suspicious that she didn’t believe the ploy at all. So Sandra thought unless the grandmas were dying as flies, then, it must be a lie.
“FairPlay’s buddy!” And “it’s not all about you all the time!” Live rent free in my head
I very much dislike Sandra. Don’t enjoy a season when she’s on it but this is one of my top survivor moments and it’s the only reason I won’t say she is one of my most “hated” players. It’s amazing, it’s her negativity and bitterness used for good. 🤭
@@kirstybrown1185 how do you not enjoy her on tv? she is entertainment gold lol
@@UnbreakableBloke I can so relate to this. I was a teaching assistant some years ago and one of my students did the dead grandfather excuse...three times in one semester...
My favourite hacked strategy is Rupert putting a rock in his pocket in HvV. It really surprised me that Russell actually thought it was an idol but at that point it was all Rupert could really do. It helped him not get voted out there and it is such a Rupert move.
Thats another great one
Don't forget his shelter hack in All Starts aka digging a hole
@@roweyurboat573 If Tina says he’s a great shelter builder then he must be!
I feel like Rupert being perceived as not being a smart guy definitely helped with this, since Russell probably didn’t think Rupert was smart enough to come up with a fake idol and not show it to anyone to make it seem authentic
@@TheKYLEdavidhopefully you aren’t saying Rupert is a great strategist cause all he did was put a rock in his back pocket and pointed his ass at Russell. That has to be the absolute worst idol bluff I’ve ever seen. Thankfully Russell is a bonehead and fell hook line and sinker to it and didn’t Pagong the heroes.
Something casual viewers might not know - Jon told his tribe on Day 1 that his grandma was a massive fan of the show. He also told them she was very sick and he hoped she could be healthy enough to visit him if he got far enough onto the Loved Ones challenge. This resulted in nightly prayer circles for Jon's grandma.
Everyone knew about her supposed illness ahead of time. Everyone knew what Thunder D's appearance instead of some old woman meant. Jon had planned this out from the very beginning.
As much as I hate Island of the Idols, Tommy pretending that he couldn’t make fire to get a free pass to Final Tribal is an underrated move that I always remember
It's a great move but also only works if said person isn't the frontrunner to win in the eyes of the immunity holder. For example, Jesse in S43 could never have pulled off a move like this.
Tommy is genuinely a slept on winner. He's probably a top 10 winner. Not very entertaining, but he literally ran his season
@@tmm4195 He's the first winner since Natalie White to never win immunity or have an idol/advantage of any kind.
@@BrettMKW Yeah he reminds me of old school winners. It’s pretty hard to win by playing old school in a modern survivor season, but he pulled it off pretty well
Danni pretending to not have a strategy so that Jeff didn’t bring things up at tribal is genius
Tony’s idol bluffing strategy was pretty brilliant.
Suggestion for 2.0: Danni from Guatemala not discussing strategy during confessionals. She noticed that she would often get asked leading questions that slightly gave away other players' thoughts and made it a point not to tell the producers what she was doing. Depending on how deep you wanna go down the rabbit hole, this is why her winner edit was rather nonexistent and the season's story a bit jumbled.
Well more than anything her winner storyline was nonexistent because that was a season where the fall of the villain (Stephenie) mattered more to the producers than the rise of the hero ala Samoa
Considering Danni was holding on by her fingernails for most of the post-merge, it's not like she could give up any hints other than "hope everyone forgets to vote me out"
@@Shutterbun4 I mean this seems like a comically simple boiling down of Survivor, but you do you.
Nick playing a fake idol to get a reaction from everyone to see if he was safe is another incredible one
too bad he had the incorrect read, tho it also didn't much matter as he was immune the rest of the season anyway.
nah i think splitting the minority vote at john was better bc that allowed the room for dan at 11 and then alec at 10.
Here faster than Crystal dropped in any endurance challenge
S tier description, also faster than Sandra opts to sit out in challenges
You were here faster than Shii Ann abandoned Sook Jai at the fake merge.
As an out-of-shape Crystal, I got defensive before I remembered I have never played survivor. 🤣
Faster than JT ran to Russell with an idol
I always found Ozzy’s strategy of intentionally being voted out twice in South Pacific so he could go to Redemption Island fascinating and different from any other strategic moves in Survivor history. The first time, he told everyone to vote him out because he knew he had the greatest chance of winning duels on redemption island and getting back into the game, which could potentially give his tribe numbers at the merge. Everything went exactly according to plan, Ozzy won the next duel and the merge immediately followed it so his tribe didn’t need to compete in any challenges without him. He ensured his tribe would at least have a 50% shot of becoming dominant at the merge. Of course, Cochran happened, but Ozzy’s move of getting voted out was still brilliant. Then the second time, he wanted to be voted out because he knew he would have a better shot at winning if he survived via redemption island rather than staying in the main game. I know some people might think he was just bluffing by saying “you guys fell into my trap!” when he was voted out, but it truly was a genius move for him. He knew he could easily win every duel and get back into the game and automatically have a 1 in 5 chance at winning the game. Why go through the struggle of staying in the game and fighting every day when he could mostly relax on redemption island? He knew he could catch fish like no one else (probably in the world) and he knew he needed stronger relationships with the jury to win. By staying on redemption island he was able to keep himself well-fed since he had greater portions for meals, he was able to provide and feed his “guests”, and he was the last person to comfort and befriend nearly every single person heading over to the jury. And it would have worked if he had just won the final immunity challenge. As they showed in the reunion, Ozzy would have won, possibly unanimously, if he had won the final immunity challenge and made it to the end. I believe Ozzy was the only example of a player being intentionally voted out as a way to help themselves later in the game. We have never seen anything like it and we may never see anything like it ever again. He realized twice (and for two different reasons) that his best shot at winning the game was to be voted out.
His acting job when he was voted out the first time was hilariously bad. He was trying to convince the other tribe there was strife among his own, but nobody on the other tribe bought the act.
@@erakfishfishfish yeah, but they didnt really need them to believe it, it would've been much better if they did of course, but the main point of the strat of voting out Ozzy was to keep the numbers...with that it doesn't really matter if the other tribe believes there's strife or no, but yes, it was atrocious and definitely would've helped if he had Amanda-level acting (No, not the one from HvV, the one from Micronesia on the Ozzy vote)
I never heard that Russell used the cameramen to help figure out where idols were hidden, but that's so smart and it makes so much sense, but it's also not necessarily something a lot of other players would think about. A very Holmesian strategy lol
Interesting that Tony from Cagayan isn’t mentioned with his super idol shenanigans
I'm so glad that fair plays strategy did not actually let him win. If someone using their loved one visit to manipulate the situation like that had ended up winning, it might have caused production to stop loved one visits altogether
doubt it cause every player afterwards would’ve been skeptical of anyone else trying to do the same thing
I don’t agree with Peridiam when he says Fairplay is likely to beat everyone in the end, he definitely loses to Sandra, Burton, Darrah and possibly Lill.
@@joaopetter9908def not lil and burton / sandra are up in the air (with the two of them being slightly favored) but yeah from what i've heard darrah wipes the floor with him
@@uglyaniimals Burton could probably win unanimously, he definitely gets Rupert, Sandra, Christa and Lill those are locked and already gives him the win. And I also think the Morgans would vote for Burton out of respect, they despised Fairplay and had a lot of respect for Burton, at the merge the Morgans even vote for Fairplay just cause they hated his guts. With Lill I think he could win in a 4-3 vote.
@@uglyaniimals with Sandra it could be a 5-2 or 4-3 for Sandra. Sandra automatically gets Rupert, Christa, Lill, Darrah and possibly Tijuana( this one is up in the air), I think he has Burton and Ryno locked in this scenario.
I expected this video to include plays like Ozzie's in redemption island, intentionally getting voted out to gamble on coming back from redemption island in a better numerical position. This video instead included some really out of the box plays that I'd never heard of before! Great picks!
this was still bad bc if they sent cochran and christine beat him, she was flipping and forcing a tie anyway. christine was the one person guaranteed to flip to them, and cochran who they didn't send but just threw under the bus again was the one person that could flip away from them. ozzy acted it terribly, to the point sophie and coach were rolling their eyes at him openly. christine was shoving venom consistently at coach and ozzy decided "i don't want her back in the game, she hates my enemy!"
“This might be worth one MEEEWYUN dollars” - Russell Hantz
Great list. One that personally came to mind was Tony giving Jeremiah a useless idol clue in front of the whole beauty tribe to put a target on him
tbf you could fill the entire video with tony moves:
his final 4 idol bluff
spy shack / spy treehouse
roping people into his sophie blindside at the last possible moment
lowering his threat level via body language and intentionally acting over the top
the fake clue you just mentioned
Something I've always found interesting about Russel finding idols without a clue: Samoa is the first season that one could do this in: In Guatemala no-one even knew about the idol before being told, in Fiji and China the idols were in places where you basically have to know to find them and in Panama, Cook Islands, Micronesia, Tocantins and Gabon idols were on exile island.
It makes it all the more impressive really, since he didn't go in to the game expecting to look for idols all over the island using the cameraman as a guide. I suppose it's possible he thought of that strategy already but expected to only be able to do it while alone with the cameramen on exile island or similar.
IIRC, Tocantin’s idols were at camp, hidden at a statue or something - but yeah, the clues were in exile
@@Wags13 Yep, the Tocantins idols were at tree mail.
@@GrrumpyPantsGary Hogeboom was the first person to find an idol without a clue actually, on Survivor Guatemala. He noticed Judd was separated from the group and connected the dots to where the idol would be. He also is the first person to play an idol successfully (unlike Russell)
@@gungalioheiboddhizstsu8718 in terms of modern idols, yau would be the first person to play it correctly. gary's was more like an extra immunity challenge that did nothing to change the game
If yau-man's car gamble that ended up backfiring made this list, clearly JT's idol gift to Russell in HvV deserves a spot. Had it played put as JT expected, that season would've changed completely
Hahaha. Car, backfiring…😂
I’m surprised you left out Vecepia choosing her personal comfort item specifically because she knew it would help her win the final 4 immunity.
There is also Tina convincing Colby to change his vote from Keith to Mitchell off-camera.
Think the Vee thing is in a challenge hacks video
This is a challenge hack. Would make no sense it being here. Surprised anyone thought it would.
@@kirstybrown1185it is hacking strategy tho since the entire point of Fallen Comrades was that you bonded with your teammates. Vee just approached someone. Learned a fact. Wrote it down. And walked off, knowing that it would help her later. Is it disingenuous, maybe? But it worked, and Rotu believed Sean was the bigger threat because of how social he was.
that wasnt the only hack she had, tina figured out how to abuse the tie vote rules in her favor very quickly. so much so they changed the rules for tie votes after.
Have you thought about making a video ranking the top five or top ten hardest seasons of Survivor? Just finished watching Africa for the first time and I thought it would make for a cool video idea
i still don’t get why lex was so mad when he told ethan not that long ago that it “wasn’t about friendship,” it’s just so hypocritical
I love this video idea!! Such an awesome concept and truly my favorite moments in Survivor.
I would also suggest Cochran using Dawn's personality against her. She basically gathered all of the information he needed to make the votes go where he wanted, and then used her emotional personality against her in final tribal. He couldn't have won that season without her ability to connect with people.
Dom and Wendell were playing 3D chess while the rest of the Ghost Island cast were playing checkers
most of them weren't even playing tbh
Chess is already 3D - you mean 4D chess.
@@rokeYouuerit isn't 3d online
@@happyfat4620 Fair enough. I even play online chess, so I probably should have thought of that.
@@rokeYouuer Chess is multidirectional, but it only plays along a flat plane. So it's 2D.
How is tony parading his special idol around at final 4 like a real idol not number 1 here??? Completely hacked the strategy like Dom.
Lex: Kathy, think we can exploit this favor to our advantage
Also Lex: Rob, how dare you exploit my favor to your advantage
Speaking of idol paper
Pete hiding the idol clue paper in RC bag only for abi to find it and accuse her of hiding it
I'd love to see a Big Brother version of this!
You MUST include Maggie hacking the Howie's HOH. This was a strategy hack because the thing she used to get him to promise her safety was promising Howie and Rachel safety if Cappy came back. They took that deal. Using the possibility of someone coming back into the game as a bargaining chip for safety is brilliant and hasn't been done since Maggie!
You must also include the jury pact, which you guessed it, was invented by Maggie. She used the jury pact to back Ivette into a corner. Ivette could either take Maggie, her friend, and risk losing or take Janelle, her enemy, and guarantee losing. This jury pact was genius, ahead of its time, and is still used to this day.
I think someone's a fan of Maggie!
I like many others hated that season with Maggie since we were all mesmerized by Janelle. But the more I think about Maggie the more respect I have for her gameplay. And she took that money and ran the BB fans turned on her hard after the season ended.
On 2) Ivette had a 3rd option, that she should have taken. Throw the final 3 HoH to Janelle. Janelle takes her, and Ivette almost certainly wins.
It's funny with the rob lex thing because when you look at the subtitles he said he would 'take care of him' and he did godfather style
That kinda blew up in his face since it immediately burned a jury vote, and that would have failed if it wasn’t Lex since he is the only person who cares that deeply about friendship.
I think that Johny Fairplays grandmother move, unlike his grandmother, has aged well.
OOOOF lmao
his grandma died?
So happy I got here so fast! Excited to watch
I think Sarah giving her steal a vote to Cirie in Game Changers should be on the list
Except it wasn't a strategy, she actually gave it to Cirie out of loyalty. Cirie warned her she was getting votes, Sarah didn't buy it, and to prove how confident she was she gave Cirie the advantage, if she gets voted out she gets to keep it, now Cirie should have voted Sarah out and kept it, not try to use it to save Sarah.
@@CharlieGoldDirector also troyzan had to point out the non transferrable part to sarah, the woman who owned the advantage.
Yo i didn't know about that Camera man trick from Russell, props
Survivor SA's Rob Bentele also has a great hack where he makes up that he has an advantage where he can see who two people voted for to ensure that his allies stayed in line. Genius
That’s a good one. One of the best winners of english Survivor.
This video was so great !!!! Loved this concept !
Strategy anti-hack? Val lying about having two idols? Alphabetical voting? Neutral option?
King George Of Bankstown Tribal council with Fraser being voted out was the most insane thing i think i have ever seen on a survivor season, pre merge, pre tribe swap even but still the most insane strategic tribal council i’ve ever watched, think he as a player should be acknowledged more
LOVED this video and this series of "Hacking" videos.
Video idea I think might be cool, talking about the unshown challenges of survivor, like the pizza reward challenge from winners at war that you mentioned in the pizza ranking video
I thought the lead up for the Dom segment was gonna be a lead up for Tony’s Bag of Tricks is Cagayan 😂
Never thought about the Dom fake idol play. Masterful gameplay
Thank you for posting the video.
I haven't seen anyone mention Nick knowingly playing a fake idol as if it was real ONLY to look at the reactions of the other survivors. It didn't really give him the info he wanted but it was big brain either way.
Another idol-related moment for a part 2 would be Tony's fake superduper idol
Yau-Man was a visionary ahead of it's time in Survivor.
Tina strategizing on the ride to tribal.
Dom became my new favorite player in his season. Hope he can come back for a returning player season.
"By sheer bad luck *AHEM*" what a suspicious cough... 4:57
When you talked about the Ghost Island Idol play, I assumed you were building up to Tony Vlachos on Cagayan. He lied about his idol with special powers (AKA Super Idol that can be played after the votes are read) being useable until the final 4, rather than final 5. His confidence with it throughout the last 2-3 votes meant that no one even thought about targeting him for elimination.
I cried at school in 4th grade the day after Yao Man got voted off lmao. I was so mad at Dreamz
Have you ever watched the Australian survivor series and would ever produce some videos based off of them?
Russell was such a d*ickhole but he's probably the number 1 person who changed the game the most
Tony’s F4 idol bluff in Cagayan surely has to be in the next part.
Surprised you didn't talk about Tony acting like the God idol lasted until 4
#JusticeforYauMan :( Urgh you opened a dead wound for me lol
When I was watching Fiji I kept on saying I will only respect dreams if he goes back on the deal and even I expected him to hold up the deal that's why I was expecting not to respect him at the end but I'm a different breed of survivor fan as long as you're not being malicious like Russell I enjoy backstabbing
I was expecting coach’s cult to be mentioned. Using religion as a way to control an alliance, is huh, creative I guess? Or you can call it exploitative and ugly
I don't know if this counts or not but when in Pearl Islands they started stealing the other teams items and selling them to local Islanders I thought that hack was ingenious. It was so fitting to the pirate theme of the season.
People rag on Dreamz and Yau Man, but Yau Man basically leveraged wealth against a bet he knew couldn't be promised and he lost out. It was a stupid bet and he should never have done it.
Speaking of unsaid rules in idol clues, I thought for sure you were going to include Tony's lie about how long the super idol would last in the video. His other lie about giving Jeremiah a "legit" idol clue in front of his tribe was also just as clever.
would love to see an australian/south african version of this, their game culture is a bit different than the usa in how they approach the game, so things that are possible in aus/sa arent possible here (and vice-versa).
Chappies way to stay fed and strong behind everyone's back was genius
Holloway saving his auction money for an advantage
Idk why Dreamz just didn't give the necklace... like, did he really think he was going to win? lol
No but +20k
Dreamz wasn’t just “poor” but was also homeless so a car would be life changing
Kind of a sequel to the second scenario mentioned, but Jeff Varner claims he had a pre-game Cambodia alliance with Shane Powers...would have been interested to see that play out had Shane made the cast (still salty about that, and not just because my name is also Shane...)
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I hate to say it but by this point Johnny Fairplay’s grandma probably is dead, but she lives forever in our hearts and minds rent free. RIP grandma Fairplay
I'll always be a bit confused about the Yau-Man & Dreamz situation, why did neither of them even consider the possibility of voting out one of the other 2 players & going to final 3 together? I'm honestly surprised neither of them ever thought to bring up that possibility Like if I was in that position, I would add a condition that after I gave them the immunity they couldn't vote me out & we would vote one of the other 2 & I also think if Yau had offered that at 4, rather he meant it or not, Dreamz would have kept the deal & he wouldn't have been voted out Either of them could have used that to their advantage, but instead they both just acted like there was no possible scenario where they would both be in the final 3 & made it very clear they wanted the other out I get they saw each other as big threats, but the fact they didn't at least consider a final 3 deal at any point still shocks me
does anyone know any good discord servers to talk about survivor? I need friends
4:56 Is Peridiam saying Amber's bad swap wasn't just bad luck but intentional?
Danger Dave in the thumbnail is an auto-click. Well done P.
Glad this video is here to remind everyone that DREAMZ STOLE A TRUCK FROM YAU MAN.
I caught that little throat clear. Can someone please explain how the tribe swap was set up against Amber? I missed that
As I recall, they pulled buffs from a container to determine tribe changes.
Every person changed tribes (thus effectively staying together), except for Amber, who was now teammates with a group consisting of her and what used to be the opposing team.
Outside of some stage magician tricks, I don't see how they could of faked it. (Unless a bunch of players, plus the producers, plus Jeff were involved... which seems unlikely)
No suspicions were raised at the time.
It all seems pretty legit to me.
@@BatCaveOz The theory is that the draw was rigged. Jerri and Lex have both stated in AMAs that the buffs felt like they were stacked one on top of another and that the inside was actually a thin tube with not much wiggle room. The buffs weren't all mixed together, but stacked up like a tower in the tube and since the tube was so thin, they couldn't pull any buff they wanted. Only the buff that was at the top of the stack. If that is the case, the buffs could have been stacked in a certain order and since Jeff is controlling who pulls next, that would mean that the buffs could be arranged so that the tribes stayed the same except Amber. In theory, you could have Amber pull last knowing that the last buff in the stack is what will swap her
Since we never get to see everything that happens behind the scenes, we don't know for sure if the order that they pulled was random, or if they were lined up and Amber was put at the end. All we have to go on is the fact that it seems unlikely (not impossible) that both tribes stayed intact except 1/2 of the power couple, and Jerri + Lex's statements that the buffs felt like the buffs were stacked up in a thin tube.
@@stattape7370 interesting theory. I believe it could be true. On the flip side, a player could always ask I to go last like Tyson did, and let fate decide. I wonder if they would have allowed that.
Things we will never know…
What about tony making up the power to his idols, something tony did had to make it here lol
Wtf kinda name is Donathan
It is a name chosen by parents to strengthen their son's resilience due to the inevitable bullying he will experience.
If that dude didn't give up the immunity, couldn't yao get the truck back. Its not like he took possesion of it on the show
#2 and #1 are decent hacks, but I don’t really consider the the other 3 as hacks.
So Dreamz had six chances to win a car well truck in his case?
I guess you could say, dreamz hacked the challenge by making his needs so well known.
@@codyhanson1344 Your Right Dreamz hack the game with even nothing it know!
Russell might not have won Survivor! But Russell was smart however his social game was just horrible!
tony lying on the expiration date of his idol
Interesing
i don't wanna discredit Dom as a player, because he is a good survivor player. But that move would not work in most of the seasons, including the only new players seasons. especially that final 6. Probably one of the weakest final 6 ever.
i ran so fast to this video
Fairplay should be struck from all highlight mentions of survivor, not because of the grandmother thing, because he quit the second time he was on
That's pushing it
Definitely wasn't cuz he had pain medication withheld not too long after getting bodyslammed by Danny Bonaduce, while James was allowed nicotine patches.
yau man the greatest jury threat vote of all time. look at how angry they all were and angry on final tc in general even though they still had a clear person to vote for
I can’t for when you do 5 times survivor players hacked social games
My opinion On Johnny Fairplay has evolved over the years. Initially, I couldn't stand him. I thought he was a piece of shit, and a "low-hanging-fruit" kind of player. But the more I have thought about his tactic, the more brilliant it becomes. Peridiam essentially took the words out of my mouth. It was an absolutely brilliant move, that clearly shows premeditation WAYYYYYY before he even knew who his tribemates would be.
Whether you think lying about a dead grandmother is appropriate, or not, in a game like Survivor it clearly was effective.
These days, I look at Fairplay as one of the true Survivor geniuses. To think that far ahead with your strategy, knowing nothing about how the social game will actually be, is pretty remarkable, and certainly unprecedented.
You go by “dreamz” you’re not a man and he really proved it