Thank for this video. We locals get quite annoyed when certain RUclipsrs refer to Wealdstone as "Wealdst'n". I keep telling them "there IS an actual stone - it's not a contraction of the word town. 😄
i lived in Harrow Weald in the 90's and worked in Wealdstone in the 60's. Harrow and Wealdstone station was the scene of the worst railway disaster in Britain in 1952, The Who and Rod Stewart played the Railway Hotel in the 60s, the Hare was a delightful country pub until it became an American burger restaurant, the Case is Altered was a wonderful country pub with a huge garden area, sad to see it closed, there is another Case is Altered pub in Wealdstone high street, Gilbert (of Gilbert and Sullivan ) owned the large Grimsdyke Hotel, he had a swimming pool which he let local children use, he died from drowning trying to rescue one of them who got into difficulties. Great video thanks for my trip down memory lane!
*New Subscriber* That was fantastic . Very well researched, shot, and edited. You're a natural presenter to camera, so I've no doubt you'll be at 50k subs in no time. Living now in Czech Republic, I used to work in Harrow but never made it to that area in today's video. It's a shame that the Weald Stone lies unloved in a pavement. I hope the locals continue to give their local pubs good patronage as they'll miss them if they go. For the best beer, I encourage you to visit Czech Republic on your travels. Plzen ( an hour by train from Prague ) is, as you no doubt know, the home of pilsner, "bottom fermented" beer. The brewery there has a fine tour, and a great pub. Almost every small hamlet has a chateau or castle close by, with usually an olde worlde pub either inside the grounds, or close by. Glad I've come across your channel. Love the herringbone suit ! All the best from Prague. CZ
I think linking pubs to an interesting location to visit is a great idea for videos. Its useful to understand a bit about an area and some local history when visiting a place......and then have a few pints in some nice pubs!!
Thank you! In this case the history of the stone (and therefore the area) was very intertwined with the pub - so much so it had been part of the foundations for a time!
Fantastic video loved the off the beaten track content, very sad about the "Case is altered" looked like a great place. Been away on holiday so catching up on the last few weeks is a joy, I quite like a Doom Bar...
Hi Tweedy. Whilst you did go slightly “off piste” you still provided us with an eminently interesting video. I was brought up in Middlesex and had no idea that the Weald Stone actually existed. Middlesex contains numerous “villages” within the suburban sprawl. In the 1970’s and early 80’s these contained some fabulous pubs. My fear is that these have largely disappeared and now live only in my distant memories. “The Case is Altered” looks like a prime and sad example. ☹️😔😢
The stones are actually remnants of a cap of silcrete that covered much of southern England prior to glaciation and are widely scattered from Wiltshire to Kent. Early inhabitants gathered them to use for everything from tombs , boundary markers to monuments , some left where they lay as they were too bothersome to shift .The word Sarsen is probably corrupted from Saracen meaning anything foreign to the location as the stones looked nothing like what was surrounding them having been moved by glaciers. Alternatively their bothersome nature could have given them the Anglo Saxon name : sar stan " ( trouble stone ).
Regarding The Case is Altered, legend has it that the car park was notorious for hosting various 'activities'. Think digging but using a different vowel. I believe also that the reason Wetherspoons flourished in North West London in its early days was because that part of London had become a literal real ale desert.
Bombay Central was excellent until the flood closed it. Themed with trains running around the bar and excellent East African Asian food. The Grims (Ditch) Dyke is an ancient earth works. In the woods by the case is altered is a tower used as a repeater for micro wave transmission, linking the Post Office (BT) tower to the tower in Birmingham. Of course that technology has been superseded. Across the woods is Bentley Priory used in WW2 as RAF fighter command, where the Battle of Britain was directed.
Hi John, Excellent, very enjoyable!! I liked the way the stone is just there and you can touch it or even stand on it, maybe a favourite for the dogs too? Golly, no wonder visitors are welcomed in the Grims Ditch, £7.65 for a pint of Guinness, mind you I think you got your money's worth with that chimney place. Great shame the Case Altered had to close due to the car park, it looked the best of all of them. Interesting its possible connections to the Peninsular war. As an aside, just a short distance down the motorway from us at Illora, you will find the mansion given to the Duke of Wellington by the Spanish state following his help in the war, which is still in the family to this day (er .... his family not mine) All the best!!
Thank you! That was very interesting. It may be 'off piste' but it's none the worse for that. I live a few miles west of Harrow and I have always wondered where Wealdstone got its name.
What a wonderful, informative and charming vid. Thank you Mr Tweedy for your hard work creating these vids. The weald stone looks more like an erratic nobody could be bothered to cart away, but I prefer your more informed version of such.
Up in the Pennines, the millstones can be found lying around everywhere, used for sharpening knives. I often wonder if the ancient stones were used for a similar purpose to sharpen bronze and iron age swords.
I once read that a popular hobby in Victorian times was chimney pot spotting. Being so reliant on coal, there would have been a wide variety of chimney pots manufactured. Some would have been merely decorative, others may have been designed to extract the fumes more effectively.
A fantastic video. I’m obsessed with antiquities surviving in urban sprawl so this was right up my street! I had no idea the stone in Wealdstone was still there. And such a wonderfully mundane setting. Fabulous! Many years ago I actually filmed a video in the Grim’s Dyke Hotel. It has long been deleted and most certainly would get me cancelled nowadays. Mine was about the use of the hotel in the filming of Evil of the Daleks, which was filmed in 1967. A young chap working there got involved and let me up onto the balcony overlooking that banqueting hall - enabling me to capture a shot as per the Doctor Who story. It is a magnificent building and I’m so glad to see that it’s still there. Tragic situation with the Case is Altered - looks like it might have been the best of the bunch. The cause of the closure is emblematic of what’s wrong with our local councils nowadays. Absolutely clueless. This was a really interesting diversion from the normal format on the channel and it looked like you had a lot of fun making it!
Thanks Mr WC21! Yes I completely agree on the fascination with antiquities "hidden" in urban sprawl like this. I had a lot of quizzical looks from passers by as I was filming here, suggesting most of them presumably had no idea of the stone's significance. An interesting coincidence there that we have both filmed in the Grim's Dyke Hotel! It is a fantastic find, and I think I'm developing a bit of an obsession with chimneypieces! I was berated by Mr Allotment Fox in the comments here for not investigating the actual ditch while I was there (and he was quite right to do so!), but alas I ran out of time. I also wasn't quite sure how I'd explain that bit away in a video on a channel which is meant to be about pubs! I had already stretched the point a bit using up several precious minutes of the audience's attention span talking about sarsen stones in front of pubs, but an old earthwork behind a hotel really felt like a ditch too far! I agree, The Case is Altered would almost certainly have been the star of the show had it still been open! I did a bit of reading around and apparently the council blamed anti-social behaviour in the car park. I suspect given the timing that might have actually been a short term problem. I'm sure a solution could have been found. I wasn't really sure when I set out to make this video whether it was going to be a Tweedy Pubs or a Tweedy Outdoors video - it sort of sits half way between the two. So it's good to hear that most people didn't mind the slight deviation from the usual subject matter.
@@TweedyPubs A Tramp in the Hills just did an interesting video where he checked out 30 pubs from a 25 year old pubs walk book. 25 were still trading, which I thought wasn’t bad, all things considered. One of the five that had been closed had been demolished, the others converted to residential. I wonder what fate awaits the Case is Altered as a building. That’s the other tragedy about losing pubs, sometimes closure seems to provide an excuse for demolition. It’s all when and good the government talking about building all these houses, but we really mustn’t overlook the huge number of empty historic buildings that desperately need to be given a new life. That’s my rant over for a Sunday morning!
Lived in Harrow for 30 years, and for 3 years I lived on the road that leads up to the Weald Stone. I went to the Weald Stone Inn once, just before it closed (2005/6) and it was okay, then it was derelict for 10 years before becoming a fantastic Indian restaurant. The Case is Altered was a good pub, in all the time I lived in Harrow, it closed and re-opened about 5 times (at least twice it became an Indian restaurant, something of a theme in Harrow). The Car Park was pretty dodgy at night, which is why the council have to close it early. There are some great walks that you can do around there though, and it was always nicer when you had a pub to pop into mid-walk. Hopefully, it will open again in the future. The Hare is a great gastropub, but it suffers from the same issue that the Case is Altered had, it's not really near anywhere so you have to rely on one bus or be prepared for a long walk. So it has had to turn into a restaurant to attract customers who are prepared to drive there and spend a lot. Never knew that the Hare had sarsen stones out front though, that was very cool to learn.
Ditches were the sewers as well as the drains. Everything, including industrial waste from fulling, abattoirs, tanneries etc that couldn't go directly into a river went into a ditch. A report to the inspector of nuisances mean't somebody wasn't flushing or unblocking theirs :D
Lived in the area for years and driven past the Weald Stone and bankrupted myself feeding the family at the Hare now and then, without ever noticing the stones - thank you. The Case Is Altered was a great summer pub in the 80s and 90s. Shame to see it go but it only works with a good car park…..which back then was more notable for weekend “boy racer” car spotting (like my Sunbeam Lotus) than more athletic “in car entertainment”.
Very interesting stuff, TP. Still amazed at the level of research involved - can't imagine how you find time to dig it all out. Great shame about the Case is Altered pub, which looks like a nice pub building. As you say, Gilbert's home very impressive all round. Great suit, by the way. Thanks once again. Tom (from France - supposed to be working, but in fact watching you on RUclips).
Thanks Tom! I am currently taking a career break - or something like that - so I'm in the fortunate position of having lots of free time to make these videos. This one involved a day or two's research, but I ended up leaving some bits out of the video because it strayed a bit too far off the main theme (I had dug into the history of the Smith family who owned the Red Lion in the 1800s, and also looked at the history of nearby Wealdstone House a bit). Yes I agree, a great shame about the Case is Altered! The suit is from a company called Walker Slater, where most of my tweed suits come from. It's not really appropriate for wearing in the city of course, but on those old maps at least this area looked lke it was in the countryside!
Excellent thanks 🍺it was a shame the 2nd to last pub was closed as it looked interesting 🧐 but the Gilbert old house hotel looked nice 👌 and funny because I have been listening too Gilbert and Sullivan this week 😂😂have a great weekend 👏👏
Good afternoon, Tweedy I have read several articles about Grim's Dyke over the years. I did not realise you could walk into the hotel now and grab a beer. It is an interesting Norman Shaw building and looks worth a visit. I'm glad you managed to find a pint of Landlord 😁👍
Thanks Lee - I wish I had explored the actual dyke/ditch at Grim's Dyke Hotel while I was there, but I ran out of time. I think most hotel bars in the UK are open to non-residents aren't they? Certainly at bigger hotels at least. Of course prices are typically higher than a pub, and they're less likely to serve any real ales, but i looked at the price of that pint as an admission fee to a museum and gardens and on that basis it seemed well worth it.
I much enjoyed this. History is much more important than we think. History gives us guidance. Not only about who we are but also about who we are supposed to be. As always - keep up your excellent work. I'm glad to see the number of subscribers is ticking up.
Tweedy - thanks for going off piste! This was a very enjoyable video - you took us to WS Gilbert's home with terrific archtitecture - well worth the diversion!
sad to see the Case closed, Casa Alta in Spain would be an inn on a high point, there used to be another pub in Wealdstone with the same name and flamenco dancers on their pub sign.
Thank you! I think I may have actually got that fact slightly wrong - William Gilbert definitely lived there, but I think it had another owner immediately prior to him. Either way he's certainly the house's most famous resident!
£7.65 a pint?? What is the world coming to? I'm of an age when I can remember the outcry when a pint moved above the £1 threshold. Thankfully I can still enjoy a Guinness at my local for £3.40.
Another enjoyable video! Thanks! You mention in your video that the "heritage tomato salad" is not exactly a ploughman's lunch. Where can you even get a ploughman's lunch these days? It's been a long time since I've seen it on any pub menu . . . which is very sad.
Well, I guess you found one! And did a whole video! Wow! Thanks! I was actually in the Queen’s Larder pub in March, but it was in the evening and after dinner, so I don’t think we even looked at the food menu.
I used to be a roofer in Watford years ago and was up on the roof of an outbuilding at the case is altered when the landlady opened her curtains without getting dressed first!!!!!!
A very different video this one, talking of pub stone, but this time no mention of Norwegian marble. I thought this Weald Stone, may have been prehistoric, and marked the place of the very first pub in Britain, maybe it was called The Mammoth? Maybe the stone was called the Mammoth Steppe, like the one in Siberia.
Casa Alta may be a reference to the siege of Badajoz during the Peninsular War. After the siege the British troops got drunk on substantial amounts of alcohol found in the city.
Yes that was a definite oversight! I had originally intended to go for a walk around the wider hotel grounds to see if there was anything to see of Grim's Ditch but I ran out of time. I wasn't sure what I'd have said about it even if I had got there though!
Pleased to see my local area featured. Not many decent pubs around there, save one or two exceptions. Harrow On The Hill has more history to look at and pubs to visit. Would be happy to show you about. Cheers #Disco
Tweedy I know I harassed u over Wimbledon which was brilliant by the way!! Could u consider Amersham old town. Great cluster of old skool pubs that u would do justice sir!
I wonder how many folk from Wealdstone have tripped over the Weald Stone in their drunken state without realising the object of their downfall gave the name to where they reside 😂
While I was standing there taking footage of the pub a young woman came up and asked me why I was doing that. I could have been wrong but I got the sense she was quite drunk. It was just gone midday.
Very kind of you to say so! This video was just a topic which piqued my interest rather than a deliberate attempt to "go viral". I'm sure the algorithm will treat this with the same disdain it has shown to my last couple of videos!
Pubs with mysterious neolithic rocks at their doorstep, what more can you ask for. Thanks Tweedy!
Im an American that has no idea about any of this stuff, but its very interesting. I can always respect a man teaching others about his own heritage.
Thank for this video. We locals get quite annoyed when certain RUclipsrs refer to Wealdstone as "Wealdst'n". I keep telling them "there IS an actual stone - it's not a contraction of the word town. 😄
Wow I actually got a pronunciation right for a change?
@@TweedyPubs You absolutely did! 👌
i lived in Harrow Weald in the 90's and worked in Wealdstone in the 60's. Harrow and Wealdstone station was the scene of the worst railway disaster in Britain in 1952, The Who and Rod Stewart played the Railway Hotel in the 60s, the Hare was a delightful country pub until it became an American burger restaurant, the Case is Altered was a wonderful country pub with a huge garden area, sad to see it closed, there is another Case is Altered pub in Wealdstone high street, Gilbert (of Gilbert and Sullivan ) owned the large Grimsdyke Hotel, he had a swimming pool which he let local children use, he died from drowning trying to rescue one of them who got into difficulties. Great video thanks for my trip down memory lane!
I think the stones are stepping stone for gentlemen to mount their steed.
*New Subscriber* That was fantastic . Very well researched, shot, and edited. You're a natural presenter to camera, so I've no doubt you'll be at 50k subs in no time. Living now in Czech Republic, I used to work in Harrow but never made it to that area in today's video. It's a shame that the Weald Stone lies unloved in a pavement. I hope the locals continue to give their local pubs good patronage as they'll miss them if they go. For the best beer, I encourage you to visit Czech Republic on your travels. Plzen ( an hour by train from Prague ) is, as you no doubt know, the home of pilsner, "bottom fermented" beer. The brewery there has a fine tour, and a great pub. Almost every small hamlet has a chateau or castle close by, with usually an olde worlde pub either inside the grounds, or close by. Glad I've come across your channel. Love the herringbone suit ! All the best from Prague. CZ
I think linking pubs to an interesting location to visit is a great idea for videos. Its useful to understand a bit about an area and some local history when visiting a place......and then have a few pints in some nice pubs!!
Thank you! In this case the history of the stone (and therefore the area) was very intertwined with the pub - so much so it had been part of the foundations for a time!
Fantastic video loved the off the beaten track content, very sad about the "Case is altered" looked like a great place. Been away on holiday so catching up on the last few weeks is a joy, I quite like a Doom Bar...
Hi Tweedy. Whilst you did go slightly “off piste” you still provided us with an eminently interesting video. I was brought up in Middlesex and had no idea that the Weald Stone actually existed. Middlesex contains numerous “villages” within the suburban sprawl. In the 1970’s and early 80’s these contained some fabulous pubs. My fear is that these have largely disappeared and now live only in my distant memories. “The Case is Altered” looks like a prime and sad example. ☹️😔😢
Thanks Andrew! Yes I was sad about The Case is Altered - I got the impression it would have been my sort of pub (much more so than the Hare!).
@@TweedyPubs I expect you know this, but there is another one in Eastcote, only a few miles away.
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Harefield is an actual village (the nearest to London) and I am told that it once had 11 pubs. Today it has 2.
@@QHarefield It is so sad to hear that so many pubs have closed, and of those that remain, many are no longer “pubby pubs”. 😢
@@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian It is indeed. And I hate all these chrome and glass places with no atmosphere.
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The stones are actually remnants of a cap of silcrete that covered much of southern England prior to glaciation and are widely scattered from Wiltshire to Kent. Early inhabitants gathered them to use for everything from tombs , boundary markers to monuments , some left where they lay as they were too bothersome to shift .The word Sarsen is probably corrupted from Saracen meaning anything foreign to the location as the stones looked nothing like what was surrounding them having been moved by glaciers. Alternatively their bothersome nature could have given them the Anglo Saxon name : sar stan " ( trouble stone ).
Regarding The Case is Altered, legend has it that the car park was notorious for hosting various 'activities'. Think digging but using a different vowel. I believe also that the reason Wetherspoons flourished in North West London in its early days was because that part of London had become a literal real ale desert.
I like how the earliest reference to Weald Stone comes from a ‘John Rock’
Bombay Central was excellent until the flood closed it. Themed with trains running around the bar and excellent East African Asian food. The Grims (Ditch) Dyke is an ancient earth works. In the woods by the case is altered is a tower used as a repeater for micro wave transmission, linking the Post Office (BT) tower to the tower in Birmingham. Of course that technology has been superseded. Across the woods is Bentley Priory used in WW2 as RAF fighter command, where the Battle of Britain was directed.
Now newly subscribed as enjoyed your presentation of interesting info, unknown by me prior to "scrolling your videipo into view"! 😊🏴♥️🇬🇧🙂🖖
Hi John, Excellent, very enjoyable!!
I liked the way the stone is just there and you can touch it or even stand on it, maybe a favourite for the dogs too?
Golly, no wonder visitors are welcomed in the Grims Ditch, £7.65 for a pint of Guinness, mind you I think you got your money's worth with that chimney place.
Great shame the Case Altered had to close due to the car park, it looked the best of all of them. Interesting its possible connections to the Peninsular war. As an aside, just a short distance down the motorway from us at Illora, you will find the mansion given to the Duke of Wellington by the Spanish state following his help in the war, which is still in the family to this day (er .... his family not mine)
All the best!!
Harrow there! More importantly, the Weald Stone Raider is named after that rock
You want sum ?
@AB-kx4nc 'First you get the fans, then you get the ground, then you get de women' - Wealdstone Raider
Thank you! That was very interesting. It may be 'off piste' but it's none the worse for that. I live a few miles west of Harrow and I have always wondered where Wealdstone got its name.
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Regards from Scotland.
Fascinating! It looks rather like a miniature Uluru in shape. I love discovering links to the history of areas.
What a wonderful, informative and charming vid. Thank you Mr Tweedy for your hard work creating these vids. The weald stone looks more like an erratic nobody could be bothered to cart away, but I prefer your more informed version of such.
Up in the Pennines, the millstones can be found lying around everywhere, used for sharpening knives. I often wonder if the ancient stones were used for a similar purpose to sharpen bronze and iron age swords.
Thanks for the video mate always look forward to the pub posts. And glad to know I pronounced Wealdstone correctly over the years!! 😂
Really enjoyed it🎉. Appreciate your research and narrative!
I once read that a popular hobby in Victorian times was chimney pot spotting. Being so reliant on coal, there would have been a wide variety of chimney pots manufactured. Some would have been merely decorative, others may have been designed to extract the fumes more effectively.
There's actually quite a hobby collecting old chimney pots stevo...They make wonderful geranium pots in the garden.
I can't think of a more English pastime than chimney pot spotting.
A fantastic video. I’m obsessed with antiquities surviving in urban sprawl so this was right up my street! I had no idea the stone in Wealdstone was still there. And such a wonderfully mundane setting. Fabulous!
Many years ago I actually filmed a video in the Grim’s Dyke Hotel. It has long been deleted and most certainly would get me cancelled nowadays. Mine was about the use of the hotel in the filming of Evil of the Daleks, which was filmed in 1967. A young chap working there got involved and let me up onto the balcony overlooking that banqueting hall - enabling me to capture a shot as per the Doctor Who story. It is a magnificent building and I’m so glad to see that it’s still there.
Tragic situation with the Case is Altered - looks like it might have been the best of the bunch. The cause of the closure is emblematic of what’s wrong with our local councils nowadays. Absolutely clueless.
This was a really interesting diversion from the normal format on the channel and it looked like you had a lot of fun making it!
Thanks Mr WC21! Yes I completely agree on the fascination with antiquities "hidden" in urban sprawl like this. I had a lot of quizzical looks from passers by as I was filming here, suggesting most of them presumably had no idea of the stone's significance.
An interesting coincidence there that we have both filmed in the Grim's Dyke Hotel! It is a fantastic find, and I think I'm developing a bit of an obsession with chimneypieces! I was berated by Mr Allotment Fox in the comments here for not investigating the actual ditch while I was there (and he was quite right to do so!), but alas I ran out of time. I also wasn't quite sure how I'd explain that bit away in a video on a channel which is meant to be about pubs! I had already stretched the point a bit using up several precious minutes of the audience's attention span talking about sarsen stones in front of pubs, but an old earthwork behind a hotel really felt like a ditch too far!
I agree, The Case is Altered would almost certainly have been the star of the show had it still been open! I did a bit of reading around and apparently the council blamed anti-social behaviour in the car park. I suspect given the timing that might have actually been a short term problem. I'm sure a solution could have been found.
I wasn't really sure when I set out to make this video whether it was going to be a Tweedy Pubs or a Tweedy Outdoors video - it sort of sits half way between the two. So it's good to hear that most people didn't mind the slight deviation from the usual subject matter.
@@TweedyPubs A Tramp in the Hills just did an interesting video where he checked out 30 pubs from a 25 year old pubs walk book. 25 were still trading, which I thought wasn’t bad, all things considered. One of the five that had been closed had been demolished, the others converted to residential.
I wonder what fate awaits the Case is Altered as a building. That’s the other tragedy about losing pubs, sometimes closure seems to provide an excuse for demolition.
It’s all when and good the government talking about building all these houses, but we really mustn’t overlook the huge number of empty historic buildings that desperately need to be given a new life.
That’s my rant over for a Sunday morning!
What a great channel. I'm happy I found you. thanks for sharing these great London pubs
Good job 👍 really enjoyed this.
Lived in Harrow for 30 years, and for 3 years I lived on the road that leads up to the Weald Stone. I went to the Weald Stone Inn once, just before it closed (2005/6) and it was okay, then it was derelict for 10 years before becoming a fantastic Indian restaurant.
The Case is Altered was a good pub, in all the time I lived in Harrow, it closed and re-opened about 5 times (at least twice it became an Indian restaurant, something of a theme in Harrow). The Car Park was pretty dodgy at night, which is why the council have to close it early. There are some great walks that you can do around there though, and it was always nicer when you had a pub to pop into mid-walk. Hopefully, it will open again in the future.
The Hare is a great gastropub, but it suffers from the same issue that the Case is Altered had, it's not really near anywhere so you have to rely on one bus or be prepared for a long walk. So it has had to turn into a restaurant to attract customers who are prepared to drive there and spend a lot. Never knew that the Hare had sarsen stones out front though, that was very cool to learn.
Ditches were the sewers as well as the drains. Everything, including industrial waste from fulling, abattoirs, tanneries etc that couldn't go directly into a river went into a ditch. A report to the inspector of nuisances mean't somebody wasn't flushing or unblocking theirs :D
off piste? much better than piste off ;) Another interesting video, thanks Tweedy!
Another good video, always entertaining keep up the good work
Lived in the area for years and driven past the Weald Stone and bankrupted myself feeding the family at the Hare now and then, without ever noticing the stones - thank you. The Case Is Altered was a great summer pub in the 80s and 90s. Shame to see it go but it only works with a good car park…..which back then was more notable for weekend “boy racer” car spotting (like my Sunbeam Lotus) than more athletic “in car entertainment”.
@@richardevens6575 I assume you're referring to listening to the cricket on the radio...? 😂
Very interesting stuff, TP. Still amazed at the level of research involved - can't imagine how you find time to dig it all out. Great shame about the Case is Altered pub, which looks like a nice pub building. As you say, Gilbert's home very impressive all round. Great suit, by the way. Thanks once again. Tom (from France - supposed to be working, but in fact watching you on RUclips).
Thanks Tom! I am currently taking a career break - or something like that - so I'm in the fortunate position of having lots of free time to make these videos. This one involved a day or two's research, but I ended up leaving some bits out of the video because it strayed a bit too far off the main theme (I had dug into the history of the Smith family who owned the Red Lion in the 1800s, and also looked at the history of nearby Wealdstone House a bit).
Yes I agree, a great shame about the Case is Altered!
The suit is from a company called Walker Slater, where most of my tweed suits come from. It's not really appropriate for wearing in the city of course, but on those old maps at least this area looked lke it was in the countryside!
Hi , great and interesting content , regards mark
WOW what a lot of research! Thank you.
Thanks Alan!
Excellent video!
Excellent thanks 🍺it was a shame the 2nd to last pub was closed as it looked interesting 🧐 but the Gilbert old house hotel looked nice 👌 and funny because I have been listening too Gilbert and Sullivan this week 😂😂have a great weekend 👏👏
Thank you! Yes I'm sure the Case is Altered would have been the star of the show here had it not been closed. Quite sad.
@@TweedyPubs yes indeed but that type of pub with no late carpark is like a pub with no beer 🍻 😁😁
Good afternoon, Tweedy
I have read several articles about Grim's Dyke over the years.
I did not realise you could walk into the hotel now and grab a beer.
It is an interesting Norman Shaw building and looks worth a visit.
I'm glad you managed to find a pint of Landlord 😁👍
Thanks Lee - I wish I had explored the actual dyke/ditch at Grim's Dyke Hotel while I was there, but I ran out of time. I think most hotel bars in the UK are open to non-residents aren't they? Certainly at bigger hotels at least. Of course prices are typically higher than a pub, and they're less likely to serve any real ales, but i looked at the price of that pint as an admission fee to a museum and gardens and on that basis it seemed well worth it.
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I much enjoyed this. History is much more important than we think. History gives us guidance. Not only about who we are but also about who we are supposed to be.
As always - keep up your excellent work. I'm glad to see the number of subscribers is ticking up.
You would like the Druid's Arms at Stanton Drew, not far from Bristol. It's got 3 Megaliths, part of the nearby stone circles, in it's beer garden.
@@radicalcartoons2766 I have been there and I loved it! I feel like there could be a whole (very niche) channel of pubs with megaliths.
Tweedy - thanks for going off piste! This was a very enjoyable video - you took us to WS Gilbert's home with terrific archtitecture - well worth the diversion!
sad to see the Case closed, Casa Alta in Spain would be an inn on a high point, there used to be another pub in Wealdstone with the same name and flamenco dancers on their pub sign.
Great video, amazing research, fascinating history. Thank you
Thanks Chris!
There are a couple of these Sarsens along the old Roman road in Chorleywood which marked the boundary between Bucks and Herts. Mysterious!
Finally,a video for geologist's well done!🇦🇺 ......
Geologists rock
Very interesting video..Never knew that Grim's Dyke hotel was built for William Gilbert..Keep on the guinness.
Thank you! I think I may have actually got that fact slightly wrong - William Gilbert definitely lived there, but I think it had another owner immediately prior to him. Either way he's certainly the house's most famous resident!
@@TweedyPubs without a doubt.
Nice mixture of history and drinking establishments.
£7.65 a pint?? What is the world coming to? I'm of an age when I can remember the outcry when a pint moved above the £1 threshold. Thankfully I can still enjoy a Guinness at my local for £3.40.
Most interesting indeed with thanks. I'm off for a pint. Cheers!
I find it hard to understand why an ancient monument which gives its name to a community is so neglected.
Yes, and hemmed in by block paving - says it all really.
Was there a stone at Headstone (Lane) as well?
Shame about The Case Has Altered. I discovered it in-between lockdowns. Lovely views from the beer garden.
Very interesting. 👍
Another enjoyable video! Thanks! You mention in your video that the "heritage tomato salad" is not exactly a ploughman's lunch. Where can you even get a ploughman's lunch these days? It's been a long time since I've seen it on any pub menu . . . which is very sad.
I can't think of anywhere in London which does a Ploughman's! The benchmark for me is the Harrow Inn at Steep, just outside of Petersfield.
Well, I guess you found one! And did a whole video! Wow! Thanks! I was actually in the Queen’s Larder pub in March, but it was in the evening and after dinner, so I don’t think we even looked at the food menu.
I used to be a roofer in Watford years ago and was up on the roof of an outbuilding at the case is altered when the landlady opened her curtains without getting dressed first!!!!!!
Interesting about the stone.
Enjoyed that
A very different video this one, talking of pub stone, but this time no mention of Norwegian marble. I thought this Weald Stone, may have been
prehistoric, and marked the place of the very first pub in Britain, maybe it was called The Mammoth? Maybe the stone was called the Mammoth Steppe, like the one in Siberia.
and hence the expression " the pubs a stones throw away .." ?
Casa Alta may be a reference to the siege of Badajoz during the Peninsular War. After the siege the British troops got drunk on substantial amounts of alcohol found in the city.
yes the officers lost control of the troops who were left to do as they pleased,; a horrifying episode.
That was an absorbing format. A bit teasing though, showing a map with grimsdyke on it and a hotel name that is grimsdyke but not showing me it.
Yes that was a definite oversight! I had originally intended to go for a walk around the wider hotel grounds to see if there was anything to see of Grim's Ditch but I ran out of time. I wasn't sure what I'd have said about it even if I had got there though!
Possibly the remains of a Neolithic tomb?I came across one of these in a 1940's suburb of Liverpool called the Robin Hood Stone.
Could well be! I'm sure a lot of ancient history has been lost forever in the urban sprawl of London.
Pleased to see my local area featured. Not many decent pubs around there, save one or two exceptions. Harrow On The Hill has more history to look at and pubs to visit. Would be happy to show you about. Cheers #Disco
Why are large stones so important to civilisations and cultures? There is the London Stone, the Kaaba Stone etc. Why?
Tweedy I know I harassed u over Wimbledon which was brilliant by the way!! Could u consider Amersham old town. Great cluster of old skool pubs that u would do justice sir!
TweedyPubs in Dublin and Brussels coming soon!!
I wonder how many folk from Wealdstone have tripped over the Weald Stone in their drunken state without realising the object of their downfall gave the name to where they reside 😂
While I was standing there taking footage of the pub a young woman came up and asked me why I was doing that. I could have been wrong but I got the sense she was quite drunk. It was just gone midday.
@@TweedyPubs I can almost visualise her blank look as you gave your response...
@TweedyPubs yep ,there's a lot of drunks in wealdstone, not a very nice area after dark im afraid to say
If you will forgive me, that was sad.
Such a shame that these places are no regarded as being in Middlesex.
I loved it, History, Beer, Pubs....History actually happened....but the Truth is a Lie...
The word should be _sprung_ from ... Not "sprang" from. (Check your earlier script). Thanks, for your info & video, apart from that. 🤭🏴♥️🇬🇧🙂🖖
Not a temple, a place of worship, a sacred site.
Doom Bar 👎
Depends where it's served; doesn't travel well, like most ales, which is why I usually order the local ale...
I find Doombar virtually undrinkable.
Gosh! He’s getting very good at the ol RUclips. Love TweedyPubs
Very kind of you to say so! This video was just a topic which piqued my interest rather than a deliberate attempt to "go viral". I'm sure the algorithm will treat this with the same disdain it has shown to my last couple of videos!
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