A little bit about different brands and types of primers. Which ones to use, when and why. All CCI and Remingtons primers, plus Winchester's small pistol are the safest to use in automatic priming tools. Federal burns hotter and cleaner, yet are according to the Richard Lee manual "one tough dragon to control in the automatic priming systems". Modern Reloading Second Edition Richard Lee Revised 2021, page 60: To find out why some brand primers explode violently, I talked to an expert, Dave Anderson, now retired from CCI. He told me primers are charged with one of two types of charging compound. One is called "basic" and the other is "normal." The primers that use "basic compound" must not be used in Lee Priming tools because an accidental discharge is very violent. The "normal compound" is less violent and causes little damage to the tool. The user is easily protected by safety glasses. Metallic Cartridge reloading, Robert S. L. Anderson, page 20: In the firearms industry there are two types of lead styphnate primer compounds - "normal" and "basic." There are presently four manufacturers of primers in the U.S., and all of them except one uses the normal lead styphnate primer compound. Federal is the only manufacturer that presently uses basic . The common ingredient to all small arms primers is lead styphnate of which there are several different varieties. Basically it is in crystalline form and is very explosive. Normal lead styphnate is composed of large irregular crystals, which are slightly acidic when wet, somewhat more brisant at lower temperatures (good for military use), and they burn with a cool flame at ambient temperatures. However, it is somewhat harder to get an even mix of components in normal lead styphnate primers because of the larger irregular crystals and the fact that the "mix" often requires some metallic fuels (such as powdered aluminum) to help make a magnum primer. Basic lead styphnate is composed of small regular crystals and unlike the normal mix is not as acidic and will not attack primer cups when wet. Basic lead styphnate is easier to mix than normal variety and there is no need to add metallic fuels. The basic primer flame is very hot and will easily ignite most powders and therefore Federal does not offer a magnum pistol primer. However this style primer is slightly less brisant at very low temperatures (- 20degrees F. to - 40 degrees F.) which would make normal primer more suitable for military purposes. Metallic Cartridge Reloading, All New Third Edition, M.L. McPherson, page 29: Certain brands of primers might be unsafe to use in some priming tools like Lee's AutoPrime because of the potential for mass detonation. With these tools, should an operator detonate one primer, as can happen when a handloader tries to seat one primer on top of another, the detonation subjects other primers in the tray to shock and an incandescent flash. If this shock and flash can detonate a second primer, there is the potential that most or all (perhaps 100 or more) primers in the tray might detonate en masse. Such a simultaneous detonation would be a disaster. Lee has tested all available primers and, excepting CCI and Winchester, all brands produce an unacceptable number of mass explosions when the primer being seated is forced to detonate (by heating in a remote explosion-proof box). By comparing Federal and CCI primers, we can gain some understanding why brands very in this regard. Federal primers do not have a foil covering over the primer pellet; an application of a type of paint replaces the foil. That sealant is easily ignited and highly flammable, possessing a very low kindling temperature. These are beneficial characteristics; among other things, they help reduce combustion residues. However, use of this pellet sealant makes these primers very easy to ignite. Exposure of the open front of the cup to the flash from an adjacent primer easily does the job! Conversely, CCI primers have a paper foil almost completely covering the front of the pellet. This foil deters pellet ignition because it is only moderately combustible and has a relatively high kindling temperature. A short duration flash from a primer is unlikely to ignite the foil or penetrate through it to ignite the pellet underneath.
I bought it. Sunday loaded 700 shells. I modified my RCBS tubes. On the pickup end, I cut off the larger hole section. Filed and smoothed. Works perfectly. By doing so saved $80. And absolutely love the priming tube loader.
Just got mine. But the trick to make it feed every time without hang ups , is to ream out the end of your primer tube. The factory end's are square and that sharp 90 degree lip causes the primers to catch and hang up. I took my chamfer tool and reamed the end out to a taper. Then I polished the taper a tad with very fine emery. Now it works flawlessly. No hang ups. Just don't let all the primers to "stack up" in the tray while running it. Nice steady line of primers, and it works perfect!
If mine broke, I would buy another one without even thinking about it. I love filling tubes quickly. There is a small learning curve. The technique is key.
Now I’ll round out with a few horror stories - {these are not meant to scare you away from reloading but rather to encourage you to always follow all the safety precautions and heed the warnings in the manuals for a safe and long Handloading journey}. Any Shoot Will Do, The A-Square Handloading and Rifle Manual, page 16: Let’s start with guys who didn’t read the safety chapter. All of these are real incidents involving experienced reloaders. #1, A commercial handloader producing handgun cartridges in quantity used to begin his day by filling a coffee can with primers to pour into the machine. He would pull out each tray and, with a flick of the wrist, empty it into the can. One day he used too much flick: one primer went off, initiating a chain reaction that filled the air with shrapnel and cost him both his eyes." [a commercial reloader that thought about how many rounds he had loaded and never had a problem whereby he did not bother with safety or safety glasses, until one day he wished he had taken heed to the warnings, but it was too late by then.] The Complete Handloader, John Wootters, page 37: The Power of Primers Never under estimate the potency of priming compounds. ... a workman at a priming manufacturing facility was carrying a bucket of loose primers ... and the whole bucket detonated. ... they never found any part of the workman except his shoes. An acquaintance of mine had ... about a hundred rifle primers detonate in a plastic medicine vial in his left hand. He lost his hand and the sight in his left eye, and he underwent a series of operations for cosmetic repairs to his face, arm, and upper body, suffering a great deal of pain, a staggering financial setback, and the loss of part of his livelihood. He was a gunsmith. Primer Precautions Such tragedies illustrate the inherent explosive power of small-arms primers, but they can be avoided totally by understanding and adhering to a few simple precautions. The first is never store primers in any kind of container other than the original factory packaging. The second is go back and reread that last sentence several times. Do not keep live primers, however few, loose in any sort of miscellaneous container, and most especially not one made of glass. A fellow RUclipsr told a story of hand priming in his Lazyboy chair when one went off. They found the lid to the primer tray stuck in the ceiling above the chair. According to the story it had just missed his face. So be extra sure not to have it aimed at your face when hand priming with these tools. And safety glasses would be a very good idea as mentioned throughout all the reloading manual over and over again.
I finally gave up trying to make the Franklin Arsenal Vibra Prime work, the last time, the straw that broke the camel's back was when I spent over an hour trying to load just one primer tube, absolute garbage.
If you're using unmodified Hornady tubes, it's to be expected. The tube ID has to be the right size for the primers at its end. It can't be a gaping hole where the plastic pickup piece was inserted INTO the tube.
Why not flip the primafill upside down, then place the primer tray on the platform from the bottom up, then flip both back right way up again, then you surely will have all primers the right way up in the tray off the bat?
It fits all tubes with an 8mm O.D. The Hornady tubes are uniquely troublesome and require irreversible modifications to work with the Primafill. Hornady's plastic pickup end is inserted INTO the tube which is reamed out to accept it. Other manufacturers use pickup ends that snugly slide OVER the tube and can be pulled off presenting a squared end with the proper ID for the primers, not a gaping hole that necks down to the primer ID like on the Hornady tubes. Personally, I'd not use the Hornady tubes with the Primafill unless I cut off the end, deburred it, chamfered the ID, and polished it. Probably not worth the effort given that it's not reversable.
I checked website video and he said to shake it as in normal primer arrangement. Guess the developer would have already tried that. Think I’ll stick with my way expensive Dillon. This is a good alternative though. Arthritis screws with me picking up one at a time 😔
We thought other reloaders wouldn't react to primers like the 'sheep' reacted to TP. Instead of getting just enough, people are buying the next 5 years worth and some even for calibers they don't even reload for. I have some, just enough, not alot, but I wouldnt buy the whole store, and I wouldnt buy more than I need. We arent 'sheep'! we don't panic! We are better than this! we are better than them! HOOAH!!!😲🇺🇸
No, unless you cut off the end where the pickup piece is inserted INTO the tube, then deburr and chamfer it, and polish it. When you pull out the plastic pickup piece, you're left with a gaping hole that's too big for the primers to drop into with the PrimaFill. You'd have a similar issue with the Frankford Arsenal too. That's an irreversible mod unless you have access to a machine shop. Why Hornady uses a pickup that inserts INTO the tube versus sliding OVER the tube end like everyone else escapes me.
All these gymnastics and extra buys you have to do when using a press with a primer tube. I stick with my Lee Classic Turret. I like the primer feed it works plus it is included.
I suppose if a person did enough high-volume reloading to warrant one of these machines then it might be worth it. For the average reloader like me this is yet another solution looking for a problem. For $80.00 + shipping, this machine doesn't come anywhere NEAR being worth the cost.
appears to be very similar device to the FA Vibraprime system with albeit a design change, however it seems the basic idea is the same. Is it worth double the money? Are either worth the couple of minutes it takes to load primers into a tube the old fashion way? I suppose it comes down to the "time is money" question. Great video, very informative as usual and thanks for all that you do to help all of us to be better reloaders.
Yes it is worth the money. He didn’t do it justice in the video. Once you get the hang of it you use one hand and it goes real quick. Average time for 100 small primers to vibrate into the tube is about 10 seconds. It is a huge time saver. I’m able to fill five primer tubes before my reloading session in just a few minutes.
Hornady "1911 Auto Primer Tube Filler" is faster and simpler. Loaded over 7000 primers in my first year of reloading no problems at all. Large and small primers.
I’m willing to take any of those presses of your hands! Heck I’ll even pay shipping lol!!! Awesome keep up the great work! I got a Hornady classic lock n load single press. Getting it set up and ready to start my first reloading adventure!
@@bixby9797 When was the last scare? When we had Obama/Sandy Hook scare I don't recall primers being out of stock, just ammo. This is when I got in to reloading.
@@bixby9797 no matter how many primer or powder you have you’ll burn through them then what. 50k is about 2 years for me. When powder goes away we’re all up the creek. Maybe like last time it was temporary one can only hope.
@@DimaProk With Sandy Hook panic all primers disappeared for a couple years. As well as powders, bullets, new empty brass.....and the same ammo + .22 rimfire. It didn't bother me too much as i've been keeping a stockpile for 40+ years. One thing I learned on the farm was using good times to prepare for bad times.
@@LuvBorderCollies I remember it wasn't as bad as now because I got in to reloading back then, but I wasn't loading 1000s of rounds. Yes, ammo was gone, some powders too, but I could still buy some powders and primers was not an issue, I could buy $20 a brick S&B primers from Cabela's although I remember only rifle primers were available at some point and I could definitely find them online, right now it's a lot worse and yes I am glad I accumulated enough and after this is over I'll be definitely buy. Ironically I am still sitting on 22LR ammo I accumulated during Obama shortage. For about couple years every time I would go to Walmart I would swing by gun counter and ask about 22LR and sometimes I would get lucky. At one point I realized that after I started shooting centerfire, I didn't even shoot 22LR anymore so I realized I have about 5k rounds and I don't need it anymore so I stopped.
Looks somewhat like the Hornaday 1911 Primer filler. And that one works great with CCI primers but won't work very well with Fiocchi primers (small pistol). Wonder how this DAA PrimaFill works with other primers than Federal like Fiocchi's?
Two years later but I’ll respond anyway - tried DAA filler today as my pal got unused 650 fully stacked for great price. Well with Fiocchi primers we had a hard time to not have hickuups - hickups all the time. I have Hornady 1911 and that has some troubles with Fiocchi but mostly feeds them fine. Sellier Bellot works like dream, few second and they are in the tube. But with this DAA they’ll just stuck right at the hole, they wont even get to the tube part
I think Frankford Arsenal should sue DAA for infringement just like DAA has done to everyone else. Turn about is fair play right? Pretty sure Battenfield has deeper pockets. Ill keep using my original tube filler from Frankford Arsenal
@@COP0351 hahahaha. Its ok. Unfortunately alot of these channels that started small and had real reviews are now just paid shills. Whens the last time you saw a major channel say a product sucked....yet at the same time the smaller channels will be honest.
very lazy, lol. i can see if you load 1,000's of rounds a week to have something to speed you up but i might have loaded 500-1000 a month before covid. now i just look at my bench and say someday i can use you again. i have a few thousand rounds loaded but im not shooting seeing i cant find more primers at a fair price. im down to 3 boxes of small pistol. lpp, srp and lrp i have a good amount saved up since way before the "pandemic" yet. so i just stare at the components for now.
@@jasonwoody8041 I walked into scheels one day with my wife and brother in law, and almost passed out they had BRICKS of primers we walked out with 4K of them... all I could afford at the time.
And if the tube was overflowing from 100 primers, either the tube was cut too short, or that means a couple of them flipped sideways in the tube on the way down, making the stack too tall, and that would also cause problems on the primer feed for a progressive press.
Simple economics. Have to stop paying stupid prices for ammo, primers, etc. and then prices will come down. The fools paying high dollar are keeping the prices high.
Lol that’s what I’m thinking! Maybe even get a robot to shoot my guns too! That way I can sit,eat Doritos and gain 100 pounds while it does all the work!
Same here. It has some bugs like the shield but when you remove it and fix the stopswitch it works wonderfully. Plus you get two tubes for large and small primers while this from DAA gives you either nothing for more money, or a lot of one caliber for much more money. Plus it’s probably heavier due to 9 V battery which is also more expensive than common AA.
@@AlbanyND Same here. Have about 7 tubes for small primers and 5 for large primers, I prefill those in a matter of 2 minutes and just reload. I usually don't do more than 1000 of rounds anyway.
Very depressing, this was hard to watch. Next, he will show how a grill works for starving children. I do love my Franklin reloader but my RCBS still is king.
My arthritic hands really like this little machine! No more cramping loading by the hunt and peck method.
Perfect timing on this product
You have gold in your hands with those primers you should feel super happy
Federal large rifle primers are going for about $119.99 per K today from a reliable vendor.
I like how this vid comes out at the time of the great primer shortage😂
A little bit about different brands and types of primers.
Which ones to use, when and why.
All CCI and Remingtons primers, plus Winchester's small pistol are the safest to use in automatic priming tools.
Federal burns hotter and cleaner, yet are according to the Richard Lee manual "one tough dragon to control in the automatic priming systems".
Modern Reloading Second Edition Richard Lee Revised 2021, page 60:
To find out why some brand primers explode violently, I talked to an expert, Dave Anderson, now retired from CCI. He told me primers are charged with one of two types of charging compound. One is called "basic" and the other is "normal." The primers that use "basic compound" must not be used in Lee Priming tools because an accidental discharge is very violent. The "normal compound" is less violent and causes little damage to the tool. The user is easily protected by safety glasses.
Metallic Cartridge reloading, Robert S. L. Anderson, page 20:
In the firearms industry there are two types of lead styphnate primer compounds - "normal" and "basic." There are presently four manufacturers of primers in the U.S., and all of them except one uses the normal lead styphnate primer compound. Federal is the only manufacturer that presently uses basic . The common ingredient to all small arms primers is lead styphnate of which there are several different varieties. Basically it is in crystalline form and is very explosive. Normal lead styphnate is composed of large irregular crystals, which are slightly acidic when wet, somewhat more brisant at lower temperatures (good for military use), and they burn with a cool flame at ambient temperatures. However, it is somewhat harder to get an even mix of components in normal lead styphnate primers because of the larger irregular crystals and the fact that the "mix" often requires some metallic fuels (such as powdered aluminum) to help make a magnum primer. Basic lead styphnate is composed of small regular crystals and unlike the normal mix is not as acidic and will not attack primer cups when wet. Basic lead styphnate is easier to mix than normal variety and there is no need to add metallic fuels. The basic primer flame is very hot and will easily ignite most powders and therefore Federal does not offer a magnum pistol primer. However this style primer is slightly less brisant at very low temperatures (- 20degrees F. to - 40 degrees F.) which would make normal primer more suitable for military purposes.
Metallic Cartridge Reloading, All New Third Edition, M.L. McPherson, page 29:
Certain brands of primers might be unsafe to use in some priming tools like Lee's AutoPrime because of the potential for mass detonation. With these tools, should an operator detonate one primer, as can happen when a handloader tries to seat one primer on top of another, the detonation subjects other primers in the tray to shock and an incandescent flash. If this shock and flash can detonate a second primer, there is the potential that most or all (perhaps 100 or more) primers in the tray might detonate en masse. Such a simultaneous detonation would be a disaster. Lee has tested all available primers and, excepting CCI and Winchester, all brands produce an unacceptable number of mass explosions when the primer being seated is forced to detonate (by heating in a remote explosion-proof box). By comparing Federal and CCI primers, we can gain some understanding why brands very in this regard. Federal primers do not have a foil covering over the primer pellet; an application of a type of paint replaces the foil. That sealant is easily ignited and highly flammable, possessing a very low kindling temperature. These are beneficial characteristics; among other things, they help reduce combustion residues. However, use of this pellet sealant makes these primers very easy to ignite. Exposure of the open front of the cup to the flash from an adjacent primer easily does the job! Conversely, CCI primers have a paper foil almost completely covering the front of the pellet. This foil deters pellet ignition because it is only moderately combustible and has a relatively high kindling temperature. A short duration flash from a primer is unlikely to ignite the foil or penetrate through it to ignite the pellet underneath.
These would sell out if they threw in a brick of primers.
That goes without saying. ;)
I’d buy one if it came with a box of small rifle primers.
I would buy it and just throw it away. I think it's easier to just use the pickup tube really.
Do a video on how I can reuse my old primers...
I bought it. Sunday loaded 700 shells. I modified my RCBS tubes. On the pickup end, I cut off the larger hole section. Filed and smoothed. Works perfectly. By doing so saved $80. And absolutely love the priming tube loader.
I will never go back to stabbing primers. I love the gadget. I have loaded 100s of primers since my first posting. It is a must-have tool.
Do you know if the red and blue primer tubes work on the RCBS bench mounted priming unit? Or must you only use the RCBS tubes? Thanks.
@@Upper_Room_Studios I would think so. the diameter fits it the primer vibrator. And my RCBs tube fit perfectly in the primer vibrator.
I got the auto primer after your review. It’s amazing.
HE'S GOT SMALL PISTOL PRIMERS!!! GET HIM!!!
Can you do a "primer press" shoot out
Just got mine. But the trick to make it feed every time without hang ups , is to ream out the end of your primer tube. The factory end's are square and that sharp 90 degree lip causes the primers to catch and hang up. I took my chamfer tool and reamed the end out to a taper. Then I polished the taper a tad with very fine emery. Now it works flawlessly. No hang ups. Just don't let all the primers to "stack up" in the tray while running it. Nice steady line of primers, and it works perfect!
Same here. Just broke that sharp 90 deg edge.
Company makes a cool new product, then the product it helps you with becomes non existent
looks like a simple little product that effectively does the job needed
If mine broke, I would buy another one without even thinking about it. I love filling tubes quickly. There is a small learning curve. The technique is key.
Now I’ll round out with a few horror stories - {these are not meant to scare you away from reloading but rather to encourage you to always follow all the safety precautions and heed the warnings in the manuals for a safe and long Handloading journey}.
Any Shoot Will Do, The A-Square Handloading and Rifle Manual, page 16:
Let’s start with guys who didn’t read the safety chapter. All of these are real incidents involving experienced reloaders.
#1, A commercial handloader producing handgun cartridges in quantity used to begin his day by filling a coffee can with primers to pour into the machine. He would pull out each tray and, with a flick of the wrist, empty it into the can. One day he used too much flick: one primer went off, initiating a chain reaction that filled the air with shrapnel and cost him both his eyes." [a commercial reloader that thought about how many rounds he had loaded and never had a problem whereby he did not bother with safety or safety glasses, until one day he wished he had taken heed to the warnings, but it was too late by then.]
The Complete Handloader, John Wootters, page 37:
The Power of Primers
Never under estimate the potency of priming compounds. ... a workman at a priming manufacturing facility was carrying a bucket of loose primers ... and the whole bucket detonated. ... they never found any part of the workman except his shoes.
An acquaintance of mine had ... about a hundred rifle primers detonate in a plastic medicine vial in his left hand. He lost his hand and the sight in his left eye, and he underwent a series of operations for cosmetic repairs to his face, arm, and upper body, suffering a great deal of pain, a staggering financial setback, and the loss of part of his livelihood. He was a gunsmith.
Primer Precautions
Such tragedies illustrate the inherent explosive power of small-arms primers, but they can be avoided totally by understanding and adhering to a few simple precautions. The first is never store primers in any kind of container other than the original factory packaging. The second is go back and reread that last sentence several times. Do not keep live primers, however few, loose in any sort of miscellaneous container, and most especially not one made of glass.
A fellow RUclipsr told a story of hand priming in his Lazyboy chair when one went off. They found the lid to the primer tray stuck in the ceiling above the chair. According to the story it had just missed his face. So be extra sure not to have it aimed at your face when hand priming with these tools. And safety glasses would be a very good idea as mentioned throughout all the reloading manual over and over again.
That would be awesome, if any of us could get primers 😕
2022 be like: F your primers
Just look for them. I just placed an order for 5000 small riffles. When I was looking, I saw loads of primers for sale.
I like the PrimaFill, best of all I've tried, including the Primer-Pro.
Did you find that primer that dropped?
its bad when you drop a primer and you think spending 30 minutes on your bands and knees is worth it to find it
He did and was able to sell it on gunbroker. He now has a nice boat.
I'll stick with my Franklin Arsenal Vibra Prime.
I finally gave up trying to make the Franklin Arsenal Vibra Prime work, the last time, the straw that broke the camel's back was when I spent over an hour trying to load just one primer tube, absolute garbage.
Vibra prime is the worst product I have ever spent money on. Absolutely worthless
U jus rubbin in the fact you have primers aren't you...?!
Bought this item...have 10-15% primers upside down in tube (Rem, CCI, Winch,SB,Fed)...reached out to company with no response.
It has a clear cover, just watch what you are doing.
@@TeensierPython kind of defeats the purpose, I’d be pissed.
If you're using unmodified Hornady tubes, it's to be expected. The tube ID has to be the right size for the primers at its end. It can't be a gaping hole where the plastic pickup piece was inserted INTO the tube.
Love it besides the 9v battery. I didn’t realize they still made those
Ohhh I thought that momentary motor did the primer flipping as well, bummer.
Awesome, thank you!
Why not flip the primafill upside down, then place the primer tray on the platform from the bottom up, then flip both back right way up again, then you surely will have all primers the right way up in the tray off the bat?
I noticed the D.A. used D.A. tubes. Will the tubes fit all priming tools? Dillion, RCBS, etc.?
It fits all tubes with an 8mm O.D. The Hornady tubes are uniquely troublesome and require irreversible modifications to work with the Primafill. Hornady's plastic pickup end is inserted INTO the tube which is reamed out to accept it. Other manufacturers use pickup ends that snugly slide OVER the tube and can be pulled off presenting a squared end with the proper ID for the primers, not a gaping hole that necks down to the primer ID like on the Hornady tubes. Personally, I'd not use the Hornady tubes with the Primafill unless I cut off the end, deburred it, chamfered the ID, and polished it. Probably not worth the effort given that it's not reversable.
Is it compatible with primer feed systems for say a RCBS bench mounted primer seater ?
I wonder if using battery shaking would righten the primers? Like this.
I was wondering the same thing maybe Gavin could try it and get back to us
I checked website video and he said to shake it as in normal primer arrangement. Guess the developer would have already tried that. Think I’ll stick with my way expensive Dillon. This is a good alternative though. Arthritis screws with me picking up one at a time 😔
By the way the comments sound none of you stocked up on primers. What did you guys think was going to happen?
We thought other reloaders wouldn't react to primers like the 'sheep' reacted to TP. Instead of getting just enough, people are buying the next 5 years worth and some even for calibers they don't even reload for. I have some, just enough, not alot, but I wouldnt buy the whole store, and I wouldnt buy more than I need. We arent 'sheep'! we don't panic! We are better than this! we are better than them! HOOAH!!!😲🇺🇸
@@Nellyofmoonchild29 All the manufacturers are making components for the USG's ammo mega-orders - including the billions of rounds headed for Ukraine.
I like this. You're not punching primers one by one. Does this unit work with Dillon tubes? I know the pro version does, not clear that this one does.
They should stamp L on one side S on the other
PrimerPro and bullet feeder works great..
Will it work for Hornady LnL tubes?
No, unless you cut off the end where the pickup piece is inserted INTO the tube, then deburr and chamfer it, and polish it. When you pull out the plastic pickup piece, you're left with a gaping hole that's too big for the primers to drop into with the PrimaFill. You'd have a similar issue with the Frankford Arsenal too. That's an irreversible mod unless you have access to a machine shop. Why Hornady uses a pickup that inserts INTO the tube versus sliding OVER the tube end like everyone else escapes me.
All these gymnastics and extra buys you have to do when using a press with a primer tube. I stick with my Lee Classic Turret. I like the primer feed it works plus it is included.
I suppose if a person did enough high-volume reloading to warrant one of these machines then it might be worth it. For the average reloader like me this is yet another solution looking for a problem. For $80.00 + shipping, this machine doesn't come anywhere NEAR being worth the cost.
Way cool. Thanks Gavin
A time saver for sure , I like it 👍.
Looks pretty hood. Fast too.
It's a vibra-prime with legs instead of a handle.
Did anybody else see the large primer fall out to the bench and then the floor when he pulled off the pick up tube?
$80 seems pretty high for this product. I would use it and I would buy it is it were about half that price.
Priced close to the Frankford Arsenal filler
appears to be very similar device to the FA Vibraprime system with albeit a design change, however it seems the basic idea is the same. Is it worth double the money? Are either worth the couple of minutes it takes to load primers into a tube the old fashion way? I suppose it comes down to the "time is money" question. Great video, very informative as usual and thanks for all that you do to help all of us to be better reloaders.
Yes it is worth the money. He didn’t do it justice in the video. Once you get the hang of it you use one hand and it goes real quick. Average time for 100 small primers to vibrate into the tube is about 10 seconds. It is a huge time saver. I’m able to fill five primer tubes before my reloading session in just a few minutes.
Hornady "1911 Auto Primer Tube Filler" is faster and simpler.
Loaded over 7000 primers in my first year of reloading no problems at all. Large and small primers.
Would be great if there was a holder for the primer tool so that the primer tool is held at the right angle while filling the tubes with primers
It is brain-dead stupid easy. A little learning goes a long way. Don't complicate the simple.
For all you folks that don't have primers.You had 3 years to get all you wanted.......
Does not work on small primer side
yet another version of a vibraprim. yet even a more awkward way to hold it. id like to see you use it with a few other brands of primers.
I’ll stick with hand priming with my Lee auto primer.
You must not handload in mass quantities.
Now we need primers 😂😂😂
Bought 2 months ago. But no primers to buy. Must buy DAA tubes!!!!
just in time for the primer shortage. but i like this one better.
Automatic wow this product is great job
A friend of mine just dumped the primer pro in the bin out of frustration because it didn’t work properly
I’m willing to take any of those presses of your hands! Heck I’ll even pay shipping lol!!! Awesome keep up the great work! I got a Hornady classic lock n load single press. Getting it set up and ready to start my first reloading adventure!
That's a wast of money when you can't buy primers
@@bixby9797 When was the last scare? When we had Obama/Sandy Hook scare I don't recall primers being out of stock, just ammo. This is when I got in to reloading.
@@bixby9797 no matter how many primer or powder you have you’ll burn through them then what. 50k is about 2 years for me. When powder goes away we’re all up the creek. Maybe like last time it was temporary one can only hope.
@@bixby9797 lol, one shot one kill!
@@DimaProk With Sandy Hook panic all primers disappeared for a couple years. As well as powders, bullets, new empty brass.....and the same ammo + .22 rimfire. It didn't bother me too much as i've been keeping a stockpile for 40+ years. One thing I learned on the farm was using good times to prepare for bad times.
@@LuvBorderCollies I remember it wasn't as bad as now because I got in to reloading back then, but I wasn't loading 1000s of rounds. Yes, ammo was gone, some powders too, but I could still buy some powders and primers was not an issue, I could buy $20 a brick S&B primers from Cabela's although I remember only rifle primers were available at some point and I could definitely find them online, right now it's a lot worse and yes I am glad I accumulated enough and after this is over I'll be definitely buy. Ironically I am still sitting on 22LR ammo I accumulated during Obama shortage. For about couple years every time I would go to Walmart I would swing by gun counter and ask about 22LR and sometimes I would get lucky. At one point I realized that after I started shooting centerfire, I didn't even shoot 22LR anymore so I realized I have about 5k rounds and I don't need it anymore so I stopped.
Muy buen invento gracias
I would Like to see you do that with Winchester large pistol primers they dont work Federal look like are the best just to let people know
If it comes with primers I’ll buy it
What’s a primer??
PS: what’s so difficult about the old way?
I agree I use the old way too, my Dillon RF100
Only makes sense if you reload a LOT of ammo like competitive shooters and machinegunners.
Looks somewhat like the Hornaday 1911 Primer filler. And that one works great with CCI primers but won't work very well with Fiocchi primers (small pistol). Wonder how this DAA PrimaFill works with other primers than Federal like Fiocchi's?
Two years later but I’ll respond anyway - tried DAA filler today as my pal got unused 650 fully stacked for great price. Well with Fiocchi primers we had a hard time to not have hickuups - hickups all the time. I have Hornady 1911 and that has some troubles with Fiocchi but mostly feeds them fine. Sellier Bellot works like dream, few second and they are in the tube.
But with this DAA they’ll just stuck right at the hole, they wont even get to the tube part
Un related. But, how do you heat your shop? Also the mountain top cabin/outpost
I think Frankford Arsenal should sue DAA for infringement just like DAA has done to everyone else.
Turn about is fair play right?
Pretty sure Battenfield has deeper pockets.
Ill keep using my original tube filler from Frankford Arsenal
Like how 1 primer fell out and no comment was even said or even put back in the tube. Cause 99 primers are just as good as 100.
That's like $7 that just went skipping off onto the floor
@@COP0351 hahahaha. Its ok. Unfortunately alot of these channels that started small and had real reviews are now just paid shills. Whens the last time you saw a major channel say a product sucked....yet at the same time the smaller channels will be honest.
How lazy are we getting in reloading?
It's low quality and pointless, but it's battery operated! ...
very lazy, lol. i can see if you load 1,000's of rounds a week to have something to speed you up but i might have loaded 500-1000 a month before covid. now i just look at my bench and say someday i can use you again. i have a few thousand rounds loaded but im not shooting seeing i cant find more primers at a fair price. im down to 3 boxes of small pistol. lpp, srp and lrp i have a good amount saved up since way before the "pandemic" yet. so i just stare at the components for now.
@@jasonwoody8041 I walked into scheels one day with my wife and brother in law, and almost passed out they had BRICKS of primers we walked out with 4K of them... all I could afford at the time.
Excellet!!
Where in the HELL are you evening finding primers?
some of us remembered 2008 and planned ahead
I spent $50 on my FA VibraPrime and love it. I dont think this little box is worth the $80 they are asking. Just my .02
What primers... ???
Doesnt appear to work any better than my vibra-prime. But its 2x as expensive.
Franfurt Arsenal vibra prime works just as good and it's lot cheaper
You dropped one removing the tube
Yes he did on the large primer.
And if the tube was overflowing from 100 primers, either the tube was cut too short, or that means a couple of them flipped sideways in the tube on the way down, making the stack too tall, and that would also cause problems on the primer feed for a progressive press.
How lazy are we that we need this product ?
Hey do you by chance have a promo code for the mark7 revolution??
I like mine from Frankford Arsenal better and even have a trigger to pull while using it ;-)
Why don't you do a primer give a
Way.
THE PRIMER APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN.
This machine becomes obsolete now 😂
Choosey beggar alert
Simple economics. Have to stop paying stupid prices for ammo, primers, etc. and then prices will come down. The fools paying high dollar are keeping the prices high.
When are they going to come out with a robot that does the whole process? Just dump in the old brass, powder and projectiles.
Lol that’s what I’m thinking! Maybe even get a robot to shoot my guns too! That way I can sit,eat Doritos and gain 100 pounds while it does all the work!
Do they still make primers? lol.
I like the Hornady better. Plus it is a 1911.
Same here. It has some bugs like the shield but when you remove it and fix the stopswitch it works wonderfully. Plus you get two tubes for large and small primers while this from DAA gives you either nothing for more money, or a lot of one caliber for much more money.
Plus it’s probably heavier due to 9 V battery which is also more expensive than common AA.
I can fill a tube in 6-8 seconds with Hornady
@@AlbanyND Same here. Have about 7 tubes for small primers and 5 for large primers, I prefill those in a matter of 2 minutes and just reload. I usually don't do more than 1000 of rounds anyway.
Doesn't seem like it would save hardly any time... just flipping and picking
Primers! What the ?!?!? Are those?! Lol!!!
Who cares about large primers, who cares about the cost, my concern is when is the primer market going to open up ??
Who has that many primers laying around?!
Very depressing, this was hard to watch. Next, he will show how a grill works for starving children. I do love my Franklin reloader but my RCBS still is king.
"Go ahead and drop a comment below, and we'll start a comment""
what about not being able to get primers lol.
That is the problem! :)
I know you have a channel to run, but I hope you did not cave for those pistol primers.
Where r the primers! Who has primers!
Probably the worst time for this video
First!
Great another primer filler.
🤔🥴👎
Kind of useless when you can’t buy primers right now.