Well then, a relegation battle could give us a break from both Mancunian teams, one the result of decades of mismanagement (including the most underrated reason: recruitment and ManU fans perennially overrating signings), the other from a few of the 115 charges sticking
The amount of waffling about players is incredible mate, the point isnt that just cuz he bought them they cant down tools, the point is you keep banging on about players letting down every manager but its a different set of players, ones he chose and cant get playing
People are saying “its his players” because you were literally saying after the Spurs game that whoever comes in has to work with players from loads of different managers, when its actually mostly Ten Hags squad now.
lmao u think these lot can’t fold at anfield under ANYONE? Jose got pain n he was tough .. Ole got his drubbing and he was nice .. can’t trust these lot n now we hv young players in the team
Mark literally gave an argument when we lost a game last season(i cant remember), he said that the squad isnt performing good because these players are not his players, but now he has already gotten his players, the results are still the same, and he still thinks its not his fault, like bruh.....
As a Liverpool fan I genuinely think you guys needs a proper rebuild, not a patch up, starting with getting rid of Rashford and Bruno. Neither gives anywhere near enough for the huge money they’re on and they’re also probably the source of most the toxicity in the dressing room. It would also send out a strong message to the younger players as to whats expected of them.
@toptopplayer-f7n I'm not sure we can say it's a huge rebuild but there has been massive investment both prior and after INEOS have come in. The news stories that have come out, coupled with the bad performance against indicates ETH has lost the dressing room and that will be the primary reason he will be sacked.
Mate, Bruno has just been signed to a bumper new contract and you did a series of videos about how it was outrageous that he wasn’t the best paid player in the team. We can’t get rid of Bruno now
It’s so sad. And they gave Rashford a contract to 2028 before Ineos joined. Atleast some of the high wage earners are gone this summer, and then a few more next summer. But we are stuck with Bruno and Rashford til 2028… I have no hope
Stop blabbing non sense. A manager should know a player's strengths and weakness and should be able to build a system which can include them it is called improvisation. This guy only knows one rigid system, no improvisation, no in game management. These are basics. He should know casemiro can't cover space in lone 6.
Maybe he is building a system where the youth teams and the first team all play the same style and he is naive enough to think he'll get the players to build that type of Arteta or Pep team. By all means we can go back to a 5-3-2 Ole ball and hope. That is the only alternative to Ten Hag being offered right now. People seem to forget that ETH has only been here for two seasons and last season was a joke where the Glazers and Ineos basically undermined him for a full year with the sale process. He is now left with players that coaches like Klopp and Pep would only finish 8th with (because if you think either of them could implement a part of their style with this crew you are delusional). This team is inferior to the squad that Ole had from a talent perspective. The entire first team are players that should be mostly on the bench and worked in to an established team.
Yeah but remember he's got a mixture of rusty tools and blunt tools and then a few shiny new ones If he has a fresh clean bag of tools to work with it will be then on him and able to see if he's good enough plus if the players then have bad form or troubles at least they will have history and a decent mindset to get through it or for him to adapt it
My problem with Mark’s argument is that when we win or play well it’s all about Ten Hag. “How great he is …” like with the FA Cup. But when we lose it’s all the players fault!
Besides Tactical acumen, a manager must have a strong personality and presence. T Hag doesn’t have all of those attributes. Alex had them as does Angie, and woe the player that didn’t listen to them or had a break away opinion.
Mark: ten hag inherited an awful squad! Also mark: just Because there his players why can’t it be their fault? 😂😂why do you make so many excuses for this guy mark
True, he says he is not defending the coach and in the same breath deflect that the problem is players INCLUDING THE PLAYERS HE BOUGHT. Well is the manager who brought them in
RVN quit the job at psv because he didn't get the trust from the board and players. he played some horrible football at psv with bad results. he's a big name, but horrible coach. you'll see
Respectfully disagree with mark. If ETH brought players in he was suppose to pick players that would stick with him. Stick with his culture his rules. If he’s brought them in and they have conformed to the rest then it’s on ETH. Simple
Ten Hag has been given the backing to buy players and get rid of the ones he wants to get rid of. No convincing style of play. Score too few and concede too many.
Erikson, Casimiro, Linderlof, Maguire all still here and Eric wanted them gone... they actually had to sell a player he wanted to keep (Mctom) in order to bring in players. He hasn't the same backing as other premier league managers at all
@@SnellMax Does that mean you’d like Ten Hag to stay. He signe d Casemiro for a big fee and huge wages. He’s had 4 transfer windows and been backed financially. Letting Sancho and McT go seems very strange when worse players are still at the club. I’m sure another manager could make a competitive team out of the players that are available
Why on earth this guys want Ruud Van Nistelrooy as coach for this mess? He is lack of experience as a coach to dealing with whatever happend in MU right now
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693they are already show a lot of potential and work under one of the best coach in the generation. What about Ruud? How about you give me five other names can do that?
@@juniorvillegas2241 I see but the temporary fix like that should be in last season when MU need to buy some time to choose other manager for the next season. However, this still in the first half of the new season I don't recommend doing that. He can be temporary coach for now but not real coach for next 2-3 years
Mark, now I understand why you want ETH to stay. You are milking this controversy surrounding ETH staying as United head coach to earn more views and subscribers. You have been posting non stop about ETH leaving or staying ...lol.
Either that ot he doesn't want to admit he got it wrong when he said ten hag is the right guy and we were right to give him a new contract. Just swallow your pride mark and admit you were wrong and ten hag should be moved on
They arent backstabbing ETH.. players also have rights to speak what they have in mind..sharing their experience on the pitch. football team is not an army..that you only obey one Commander. dont you think the players aren't tired of changing the style of play from each manager?..and some of them think ETH style of play is the worst ..
If my memory serves me right last season during the leaks you said something along the lines of "it won't be Martinez,Anthony or Onana because they have been bought in by Ten Hag"
Spot on with new players coming down to the level of the rest of the team - has to be a culture thing & a total reset has to be it. Don't think Ten Hag has much control over that
mark goldbridge is an intelligent guy but he has a weak defeatist mentality, he just says “it doesn’t work, it wont work, we tried this before we can’t be solved” that’s all he says he doesn’t provide any solutions.
@@johnsantostefano3373 its ok to have multiple manager changes, a lot of people talk about ancelotti or zidane success at real madrid, but they never mention solari, lopotigue, rafa benetiz, etc… to get to the good stuff you’re gonna have to fail a couple of times.
Any manager that comes in and puts Rashford, Fernandes, Casemiro in stands gets my vote. It'll be a statement of intent and it'll send a clear message that no one will be treated as favorites.
I never thought I'd be looking forward to an international break, but here we are. I think for the good of my mental health, it might also be a good idea to not watch this channel until the Prem comes back. A complete break from all things United sounds good right now!
Mark saying those players sacking manager. de ligt maz, onana, martinez, mainoo, bruno, zirkzee, rash, gana only dalot was there before erik appointment. Rashford and bruno was given contract under him. It is not a good argument all are technically erik signing
Sacking ETH is pointless. It would look like INEOS don't have a clue. INEOS need to back ETH & be ruthless & get rid of the players like Rashford Shaw Lindelof Maguire Casemiro Mount Anthony.
Hi mark, in my opinion, the manager and the club plays a big part in the players being inconsistent too. 1. We dont have enough good players in each position competing against each other to prevent complacency. 2. Favoritism and constant playing of players into form had contributed to inconsistency. These players know they are going to be picked anyway, why work hard? 1. Onana. Average at best, but played 99% of the games. Biyandir only had 2 games (just 1 game last season despite the countless shit performance onana put up last season) 2. Full backs: dalot and mazroui picks themselves every single game. The lack of options just guarantee them playing every single game and MIGHT create complacency. 3. Martinez. We all know he's a guaranteed starter if he's not injured. He's the only left footed centre back. 4. Mainoo. He's still young, but his start to this season was really average and he hasn't been dropped despite eriksen being the in-form midfielder right now. 5. Bruno and rashford. I don't think I need to say much here. So now lets look at the players that are doing well this season. Garnacho, amad and eriksen. They are players that have to fight for their spot. On top of that, we got 4 new players that are coming into the team.
I think Ruud has way more potential as a manager than Ole. It’s unfair to paint both with the same brush. Ruud was decent as a manager even though it was just for a year.
Did you see the first two games of the season? Clear style of play which this crew of players can't implement against better teams. 5-3-2 Ole ball is all they are capable of.
Change has to start somewhere. Ten hag isnt improving the situation. Changing the manager now with new owners might start a shift. Next stage will be to start changing the team line-up. It makes sense.
If the ManU started perfect/inform I bet you would praise for Ten Hag tactics and bringing the best of his players. The player's opinions are fine bc well they play the game w/ tactics. Am I saying they are right/wrong? I would say it's complicated but yes. I understand hating your players but your biggest issue is the manager bringing these players in and backing rashford/Bruno. No diverting the attention away from the actual issue imo bc Ten Hag is responsible for the on/off the field issues.
If we as fans can’t back a manager through adversity, until these feckless players are out, we will just keep spinning our wheels. Depressing to know we won’t go anywhere because everyone wants a quick fix and scapegoat the wrong people after crap performances.
Am Tenhag Out finally. Am done with him and his continues backing of BRUNO and Rashford. Its a disgrace!!! There's no way proper COACH would pick a player who's SHITTE for years. SHOCKING. GET OUT!!!
I used to play in a Futsal team a couple of years ago, ran by a manager who wanted the team to stick to a specific formation, and not deviate from that formation throughout the whole game. We all disagreed, because it wasn't working, and it was causing us to play differently, and not to our individual skillset. If you deviated, you'd be pulled off and you wouldn't play the rest of the game. So I would absolutely listen to the players.
Everyone is asking the wrong question. The players are great. Skills are great. Potential is great. Training is great. Coaching is great. Work rate is great. Togetherness is great. Recruitment is great. Managers phiolosophy is great. Style of play is great. Experience of senior players is great. Even the men at the top are great. It’s all great, except one thing, the formation stinks. When are you all gonna wake up to it. It doesnt work in elite football. And possibly you cant play bruno and rash (luxury players) in the same team.
Will Mark ever have a debate with a Ten hag Outer on a live session, If you send a superchat he does not agree with he will never read it out but speaks on a certain narrative. His Narrative is never the manager but the players
My worry for the next couple of game is that the managers job is in the hands of the players- if they play well and we win both games, Ten Hag may remain for a bit longer, but if they play crap and we lose, Ten Hag will probably be sacked. Players know this so it's on them to dictate that decision. Worrying times for now and future managers.
The point fans were making is yes the majority of players now are his signings but not only that, he has worked with them in the past- he's known them years and obviously trusts them otherwise he wouldn't have specifically asked & bought them- so why would they turn him so quickly after arriving at MU? It doesn't make any sense for them leak or down-tools. But of course Mark can't see the wood for the tree's and starts lashing-out & name-calling fans because he's trying to create logic out of the illogical. He's already said he'll back Ruud even though he's never seen him coach the players, never seen his style or ability. Talk about blind leading the blind!!
Sell Rashford, Shaw, and whomever else since Ole. This is disgusting to hear, when. I watched them not put an ounce of effort it on Sunday. Glad some fans are giving them a feee pass and scapegoating another manager. ETH IN
ETH facing his own doing. He didn't support players who perform good for his favoritism. And now even those players whom he played always even when performed crap now want him to go bcoz they know he will now bench them for his job sake.
The club has been cursed with the Ownership of the Glaziers and the Only Way for The Club to be resurrected is the debt to be cleared and complete ownership resulting in clearing all the DEADWOOD by Taring there contracts and kicking them out. Fill the gaps with the youngsters from the Academy and have the aggressive mentality and devotion to the club. Not worry about immediate results.
I don’t think it’s about 50% or 75% game time but I’m convinced that there is still a lot of pressure that comes from glazers to play their most marketable players or homegrown players such as bruno rashord pogba shaw which eventually causes the manager to fall out with the big players. But we only see the last part and blame managers or players and go back and forth and the owners are in charge of putting the right people in the room together. They always just went without big name signings and didn’t care to create cohesion been all the players and the manager
On the flipside of who our next manager will be, how about asking who would actually WANT to be the manager after seeing everything that's happened over the years - from players not trying, to media/pundits piling on after a defeat or two. Who would want to be put in that pressure cooker.
If porto beats us like 4-0. Surely, ten hag will get axed. The problem is that a new manager will also come and get sacked again. The players have more power in manchester United than any other team.
Mark, the best manager for the job is RUBEM AMORIM, he is the closest thing to Sir Alex in terms of player management. He brings a lot of talent and good credentials.
People write ten hag off all the time they forget we just beat city in the final very comprehensively. I think we will beat Porto and villa and ten hag stays. TEN HAG IN. UNITED FOREVER ❤
I don't think you can compare Ruud to Solksjaer. I'm not saying Ruud is the answer, but how much experience did Pep have when he got the Barcelona job?
If it’s anyone, it’s Rashford. He’s the common denominator throughout all these sacked managers. I’m sick of player power at this club. Why should anyone listen to players who refuse to play for Manchester United and blame everyone but themselves for poor performances. I’m sick of them.
WE ALL NEED A BREAK FROM MANCHESTER UNITED
This IS the Man Utd news channel... halfwits!
And united stand😁
I agree
Facts
Well then, a relegation battle could give us a break from both Mancunian teams, one the result of decades of mismanagement (including the most underrated reason: recruitment and ManU fans perennially overrating signings), the other from a few of the 115 charges sticking
Common denominator, Rashford. It’s happened before and he is the man in the middle
it is him i'm sure
Definitely rashford almost 6 managers he's seen off
The amount of waffling about players is incredible mate, the point isnt that just cuz he bought them they cant down tools, the point is you keep banging on about players letting down every manager but its a different set of players, ones he chose and cant get playing
the day i heard Rashy spice complain bout a light demand in training from Mclaren was when i gave up
People are saying “its his players” because you were literally saying after the Spurs game that whoever comes in has to work with players from loads of different managers, when its actually mostly Ten Hags squad now.
What we want somebody
Like kesne to get a grip of them
Yes it's his squad but I think they are not playing upto the mark. Thus I think squad needs time
All except the players with major influence upon the squad 😂
lmao u think these lot can’t fold at anfield under ANYONE? Jose got pain n he was tough .. Ole got his drubbing and he was nice .. can’t trust these lot n now we hv young players in the team
Mark literally gave an argument when we lost a game last season(i cant remember), he said that the squad isnt performing good because these players are not his players, but now he has already gotten his players, the results are still the same, and he still thinks its not his fault, like bruh.....
As a Liverpool fan I genuinely think you guys needs a proper rebuild, not a patch up, starting with getting rid of Rashford and Bruno. Neither gives anywhere near enough for the huge money they’re on and they’re also probably the source of most the toxicity in the dressing room. It would also send out a strong message to the younger players as to whats expected of them.
The problem is who’s gonna buy rashford on massive wages
Preach brother
Spot On.
@@jakevanoorschot4098 Sell him cheap. I just want INEOS to send some message to everyone else. Be it Bruno or Rashford. If possible Sell BOTH
@toptopplayer-f7n I'm not sure we can say it's a huge rebuild but there has been massive investment both prior and after INEOS have come in. The news stories that have come out, coupled with the bad performance against indicates ETH has lost the dressing room and that will be the primary reason he will be sacked.
As a psv supporter I like Ruud. But no way he is ready as manager of MU.
Mate, Bruno has just been signed to a bumper new contract and you did a series of videos about how it was outrageous that he wasn’t the best paid player in the team. We can’t get rid of Bruno now
It’s so sad. And they gave Rashford a contract to 2028 before Ineos joined. Atleast some of the high wage earners are gone this summer, and then a few more next summer. But we are stuck with Bruno and Rashford til 2028… I have no hope
Stop blabbing non sense. A manager should know a player's strengths and weakness and should be able to build a system which can include them it is called improvisation. This guy only knows one rigid system, no improvisation, no in game management. These are basics. He should know casemiro can't cover space in lone 6.
You want him to play a high press or sit in a low block?
@@splizkiller2579 Bobby wants mctominay and Fred back
Maybe he is building a system where the youth teams and the first team all play the same style and he is naive enough to think he'll get the players to build that type of Arteta or Pep team. By all means we can go back to a 5-3-2 Ole ball and hope. That is the only alternative to Ten Hag being offered right now. People seem to forget that ETH has only been here for two seasons and last season was a joke where the Glazers and Ineos basically undermined him for a full year with the sale process. He is now left with players that coaches like Klopp and Pep would only finish 8th with (because if you think either of them could implement a part of their style with this crew you are delusional). This team is inferior to the squad that Ole had from a talent perspective. The entire first team are players that should be mostly on the bench and worked in to an established team.
@@slendermanky even then the low block was terrible 🤣
Yeah but remember he's got a mixture of rusty tools and blunt tools and then a few shiny new ones
If he has a fresh clean bag of tools to work with it will be then on him and able to see if he's good enough plus if the players then have bad form or troubles at least they will have history and a decent mindset to get through it or for him to adapt it
My problem with Mark’s argument is that when we win or play well it’s all about Ten Hag. “How great he is …” like with the FA Cup. But when we lose it’s all the players fault!
It is
@@andyhealey7894 🤦♂️🤣
@@apuestasfutbol well said about time someone spoke a bit of sence on this channel.
Besides Tactical acumen, a manager must have a strong personality and presence. T Hag doesn’t have all of those attributes. Alex had them as does Angie, and woe the player that didn’t listen to them or had a break away opinion.
Players said the tactical set up is wrong and Goldbridge is pissed. They gave their opinions, and we can all see it on the pitch
Might possibly be the worst one ive ever watched. Just talked absolute bollocks for an hour!!
Mark: ten hag inherited an awful squad!
Also mark: just Because there his players why can’t it be their fault?
😂😂why do you make so many excuses for this guy mark
True, he says he is not defending the coach and in the same breath deflect that the problem is players INCLUDING THE PLAYERS HE BOUGHT. Well is the manager who brought them in
Rashford is the one who needs to go hes the last of the pogba x lingard clique
you forgot Sancho
@@aseemdua5086 he's already gone
@@handlemchandleton3255 his point was that Sancho was part of a Rashford clique
@@handlemchandleton3255he meant the clique
New contract at 300k until 2028, how do you get rid??????
Ruud can't be any worse then Ten Haag. This squad needs a Roy Keane to instill discipline in them. These players would even get Pep fired.
Which players are you talking about? Name them
Probably talking about rashy and Bruno but others are starting to join in
RVN quit the job at psv because he didn't get the trust from the board and players. he played some horrible football at psv with bad results. he's a big name, but horrible coach. you'll see
Keane lol…all these daddy deficit kids projecting a one dimensional failure at the managerial level lol
Grow up
All the daddy deficit kids on here projective tough love Keane….what a joke….grow up he’s a managerial failure
7:38 "Don't start talking to journalists about style of play when you havent got one" What!? 💀. Who's fault is that???
You are so right
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REAL TALK. IS THIS GUY ON TEN HAG'S PAYROLL?
Obviously we need someone with experience... An actual winning manager.. Having ruud is just another punt. Not good enough
Respectfully disagree with mark. If ETH brought players in he was suppose to pick players that would stick with him. Stick with his culture his rules. If he’s brought them in and they have conformed to the rest then it’s on ETH. Simple
Ten Hag only has himself to blame because he can’t deal with these players without falling outwith them , no man management skills.
Ten Hag has been given the backing to buy players and get rid of the ones he wants to get rid of. No convincing style of play. Score too few and concede too many.
Erikson, Casimiro, Linderlof, Maguire all still here and Eric wanted them gone... they actually had to sell a player he wanted to keep (Mctom) in order to bring in players. He hasn't the same backing as other premier league managers at all
@@SnellMax Does that mean you’d like Ten Hag to stay. He signe d Casemiro for a big fee and huge wages. He’s had 4 transfer windows and been backed financially. Letting Sancho and McT go seems very strange when worse players are still at the club. I’m sure another manager could make a competitive team out of the players that are available
Yet 5 or more players he wanted to get rid are still here
@@uwemedimoh A good coach makes players better rather than making wholesale changes
do you understand that managers CAN NOT sell players ? even players that they dont want.
Always deflecting the blame away from the manager haha
Why on earth this guys want Ruud Van Nistelrooy as coach for this mess? He is lack of experience as a coach to dealing with whatever happend in MU right now
What experience did Arteta have when Arsenal took him? What experience did Guardiola have when he replaced Rijkard at Barcelona?
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693they are already show a lot of potential and work under one of the best coach in the generation. What about Ruud? How about you give me five other names can do that?
@@keeningo4565that is a very fair point. However I don’t think anyone can be worse than ETH at this point.
@@juniorvillegas2241 I see but the temporary fix like that should be in last season when MU need to buy some time to choose other manager for the next season. However, this still in the first half of the new season I don't recommend doing that. He can be temporary coach for now but not real coach for next 2-3 years
Confused Mark as usual... always blaming players and defending as clueless coach.
ALL our wingers may not be good enough. As painful as it is to admit, that includes both Garnacho and Diallo. Bruno and Mount are also an issue.
The entire team are squad players, most of whom should be bedded into an established team as subs and support players.
Mark, now I understand why you want ETH to stay. You are milking this controversy surrounding ETH staying as United head coach to earn more views and subscribers. You have been posting non stop about ETH leaving or staying ...lol.
Dumb
Troll
Either that ot he doesn't want to admit he got it wrong when he said ten hag is the right guy and we were right to give him a new contract. Just swallow your pride mark and admit you were wrong and ten hag should be moved on
They arent backstabbing ETH.. players also have rights to speak what they have in mind..sharing their experience on the pitch. football team is not an army..that you only obey one Commander. dont you think the players aren't tired of changing the style of play from each manager?..and some of them think ETH style of play is the worst ..
Exactly and how do we know they haven't said something to ten hag about playing style and he just ignores them?
If my memory serves me right last season during the leaks you said something along the lines of "it won't be Martinez,Anthony or Onana because they have been bought in by Ten Hag"
Spot on with new players coming down to the level of the rest of the team - has to be a culture thing & a total reset has to be it. Don't think Ten Hag has much control over that
how much does ETH pay this channel? At this point this is getting ridiculous
So obvious now
He just doesn't want to be wrong about them giving ten hag more time. Sometimes he just needs to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong
Give Mark till end of October and will be the one shouting TenHag out after he loses more games. He just doesn’t want to face the reality 😮😊
Has anyone else noticed Marks U-turn lately ?
He's always very slow to grasp reality.
What’s the reality brother?
@@slendermanky That unfortunately TH has to go.
Plenty of us knew this months ago.
there is nothing wrong imo if a player has an opinion of his own. we get annihilated by lower teams because of that same set up
mark goldbridge is an intelligent guy but he has a weak defeatist mentality, he just says “it doesn’t work, it wont work, we tried this before we can’t be solved” that’s all he says he doesn’t provide any solutions.
yet the same can be said for Manchester United, itself. Multiple manager changes, player changes, board changes...performance is the same,
@@johnsantostefano3373 its ok to have multiple manager changes, a lot of people talk about ancelotti or zidane success at real madrid, but they never mention solari, lopotigue, rafa benetiz, etc…
to get to the good stuff you’re gonna have to fail a couple of times.
Any manager that comes in and puts Rashford, Fernandes, Casemiro in stands gets my vote. It'll be a statement of intent and it'll send a clear message that no one will be treated as favorites.
I never thought I'd be looking forward to an international break, but here we are. I think for the good of my mental health, it might also be a good idea to not watch this channel until the Prem comes back. A complete break from all things United sounds good right now!
If a manager doesn't command the respect of his players then the obvious decision is he has to go. Period.
No manager ever has these players are toxic. The great Jose was back stab by the dressing room
Yeah lets put the players in power, like we did the last eleven years
@@bricemorin9651only Rashford is here since Jose . 8/11 Sundays starting are ten hag signings
Mark saying those players sacking manager. de ligt maz, onana, martinez, mainoo, bruno, zirkzee, rash, gana only dalot was there before erik appointment. Rashford and bruno was given contract under him. It is not a good argument all are technically erik signing
Rashford, shaw and Maguire are the leaks, they always have been! Probably mctominay and wan bissaka aswell
Rashy needs go 100%
Don't disrespect McTominay lmao he gave everything every minute he played for us
@@challengerprod also Maguire, he is limited but gives it his all
Also casemiro
@@FreeFun4all you think so?? I wouldn’t think casemiro is leaking stuff to the English press
Rashford, Bruno, Shaw & Maguire ALL need to go asap
Only Mark knows about futebol? We cant listen to current players, we cant listen to old players...
Unless they agree with marks opinion and then we should listen to every word 😂😂
No please not Ruud, what has he even done do deserve a managerial job at United. He's not qualified....
I am sure Melissa Reddy can do a piece on player contracts and why every manager keep picking the same underperforming players..
Any club that spends 80m on Antony, 60m on Mount and 55m on Onana doesn't deserve to be treated with anything but mockery and contempt.
Everybody knows it's Harry Bloody Maguire!!!!!!!@
Sacking ETH is pointless. It would look like INEOS don't have a clue. INEOS need to back ETH & be ruthless & get rid of the players like Rashford Shaw Lindelof Maguire Casemiro Mount Anthony.
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Finally someone who gets it
I read that 4 times because I actually thought I misread it and didn't see Bruno, but I read it correctly.
Once players received a new contract on astronomical salaries, performance drops automatically. Proven time & time again, especially in Man Utd.
Sky Sports claim simone inzaghi is the front runner for the manager if utd sack Tenhag
You're loosing the crowd mark. We can all see that this ETH fraud hasnt got a clue
Hi mark, in my opinion, the manager and the club plays a big part in the players being inconsistent too.
1. We dont have enough good players in each position competing against each other to prevent complacency.
2. Favoritism and constant playing of players into form had contributed to inconsistency. These players know they are going to be picked anyway, why work hard?
1. Onana. Average at best, but played 99% of the games. Biyandir only had 2 games (just 1 game last season despite the countless shit performance onana put up last season)
2. Full backs: dalot and mazroui picks themselves every single game. The lack of options just guarantee them playing every single game and MIGHT create complacency.
3. Martinez. We all know he's a guaranteed starter if he's not injured. He's the only left footed centre back.
4. Mainoo. He's still young, but his start to this season was really average and he hasn't been dropped despite eriksen being the in-form midfielder right now.
5. Bruno and rashford. I don't think I need to say much here.
So now lets look at the players that are doing well this season. Garnacho, amad and eriksen. They are players that have to fight for their spot.
On top of that, we got 4 new players that are coming into the team.
I think Ruud has way more potential as a manager than Ole. It’s unfair to paint both with the same brush. Ruud was decent as a manager even though it was just for a year.
It aint players fault they show up every week looking lost while people looking for signs of a style of play
Did you see the first two games of the season? Clear style of play which this crew of players can't implement against better teams. 5-3-2 Ole ball is all they are capable of.
Downing tools started with Rio and company with Moyes
Speaking of slagging off I’ve seen a fair bit of stuff getting posted about you from former people of the united stand why has it gone so toxic 😮
Why don't you ask your mate Rasmus Hojlund who the leak is and ask him if the manager is staying or getting sacked?
💯 it's rashford
van nistelroy masterclass knowing ten hag would get sacked so he could get the job
When your captain is a whinger and your manager can’t articulate what he wants the rot starts there
Thomas Frank is perfect for Manchester United. Always performs well against the top teams and deserves a chance at a big club .
@@devils58reds59 wrong, look at there stats compared to the top six , there up there. Deserves a chance at a big club .
Also under Ferguson we were the best counter attacking team in the world.
Don’t worry it won’t be Rudd. Gareth is getting ready 😂
The season has barely started...Deja Vu is an understatement....all Utd fans feel as though we on a Rollercoaster whose ticket we didn't purchase.
Defend Ten Hag at all cost FC
Change has to start somewhere. Ten hag isnt improving the situation. Changing the manager now with new owners might start a shift. Next stage will be to start changing the team line-up. It makes sense.
If the ManU started perfect/inform I bet you would praise for Ten Hag tactics and bringing the best of his players. The player's opinions are fine bc well they play the game w/ tactics. Am I saying they are right/wrong? I would say it's complicated but yes. I understand hating your players but your biggest issue is the manager bringing these players in and backing rashford/Bruno. No diverting the attention away from the actual issue imo bc Ten Hag is responsible for the on/off the field issues.
If we as fans can’t back a manager through adversity, until these feckless players are out, we will just keep spinning our wheels. Depressing to know we won’t go anywhere because everyone wants a quick fix and scapegoat the wrong people after crap performances.
Of Ruud takes the job this is the only reason he came here. And he is working now with TH. There is a name for this kind of people
I never liked how Luke Shaw would address ETH as “the manager” and everyone else tends to call ETH Erik or boss. Seems weird to me
I remember he kept saying the manager under van gaaal lol
Am Tenhag Out finally.
Am done with him and his continues backing of BRUNO and Rashford. Its a disgrace!!! There's no way proper COACH would pick a player who's SHITTE for years. SHOCKING. GET OUT!!!
Perhaps he has to play them as in their contracts I am sure it must be
I used to play in a Futsal team a couple of years ago, ran by a manager who wanted the team to stick to a specific formation, and not deviate from that formation throughout the whole game. We all disagreed, because it wasn't working, and it was causing us to play differently, and not to our individual skillset. If you deviated, you'd be pulled off and you wouldn't play the rest of the game. So I would absolutely listen to the players.
Everyone is asking the wrong question. The players are great. Skills are great. Potential is great. Training is great. Coaching is great. Work rate is great. Togetherness is great. Recruitment is great. Managers phiolosophy is great. Style of play is great. Experience of senior players is great. Even the men at the top are great. It’s all great, except one thing, the formation stinks. When are you all gonna wake up to it. It doesnt work in elite football. And possibly you cant play bruno and rash (luxury players) in the same team.
The dream candidate is out there and available....in southgate we trust
Bruno ban appeal won. Actually it’s a bad thing. Needed to be forced to play without him to show his flaws
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Will Mark ever have a debate with a Ten hag Outer on a live session, If you send a superchat he does not agree with he will never read it out but speaks on a certain narrative. His Narrative is never the manager but the players
No way would he do that! 😂 He’d lose all credibility!
We all love Ten Hag , give him some more time😂 every rival team loves the idea😂 his tactics are incredible
Its the cockroach Rashford they saying 6 players but only spoke to him. He's the key toxic player and needs to go asap!
My worry for the next couple of game is that the managers job is in the hands of the players- if they play well and we win both games, Ten Hag may remain for a bit longer, but if they play crap and we lose, Ten Hag will probably be sacked. Players know this so it's on them to dictate that decision. Worrying times for now and future managers.
The point fans were making is yes the majority of players now are his signings but not only that, he has worked with them in the past- he's known them years and obviously trusts them otherwise he wouldn't have specifically asked & bought them- so why would they turn him so quickly after arriving at MU? It doesn't make any sense for them leak or down-tools. But of course Mark can't see the wood for the tree's and starts lashing-out & name-calling fans because he's trying to create logic out of the illogical. He's already said he'll back Ruud even though he's never seen him coach the players, never seen his style or ability. Talk about blind leading the blind!!
i think they will keep ETH until summer because we are so poor
Ronaldo tried to save United and look at the way he was treated
Sell Rashford, Shaw, and whomever else since Ole. This is disgusting to hear, when. I watched them not put an ounce of effort it on Sunday. Glad some fans are giving them a feee pass and scapegoating another manager. ETH IN
ETH facing his own doing. He didn't support players who perform good for his favoritism. And now even those players whom he played always even when performed crap now want him to go bcoz they know he will now bench them for his job sake.
This feels like Deja vu from the previous video
4:52 there saying the same stuff we are saying there are allowed to have an option
The club has been cursed with the Ownership of the Glaziers and the Only Way for The Club to be resurrected is the debt to be cleared and complete ownership resulting in clearing all the DEADWOOD by Taring there contracts and kicking them out. Fill the gaps with the youngsters from the Academy and have the aggressive mentality and devotion to the club. Not worry about immediate results.
No one can replace ETH!
The problem with Anthony not wanting to play left back. Anthony does not realise that a winger is already half the player of a wingef
When the manager is not in the dressing room it's the captain's job to keep control.the captain should be the eye's and ear's of the manager.
🤣🤣🤣” all we need is a song about a bus and we back there”😂😂😅
I don’t think it’s about 50% or 75% game time but I’m convinced that there is still a lot of pressure that comes from glazers to play their most marketable players or homegrown players such as bruno rashord pogba shaw which eventually causes the manager to fall out with the big players.
But we only see the last part and blame managers or players and go back and forth and the owners are in charge of putting the right people in the room together.
They always just went without big name signings and didn’t care to create cohesion been all the players and the manager
On the flipside of who our next manager will be, how about asking who would actually WANT to be the manager after seeing everything that's happened over the years - from players not trying, to media/pundits piling on after a defeat or two. Who would want to be put in that pressure cooker.
If porto beats us like 4-0. Surely, ten hag will get axed.
The problem is that a new manager will also come and get sacked again. The players have more power in manchester United than any other team.
Mark, the best manager for the job is RUBEM AMORIM, he is the closest thing to Sir Alex in terms of player management. He brings a lot of talent and good credentials.
People write ten hag off all the time they forget we just beat city in the final very comprehensively. I think we will beat Porto and villa and ten hag stays. TEN HAG IN. UNITED FOREVER ❤
I don't think you can compare Ruud to Solksjaer. I'm not saying Ruud is the answer, but how much experience did Pep have when he got the Barcelona job?
If players are worried about smaller teams having it easy at OT, why don't they do something about it ?
If it’s anyone, it’s Rashford. He’s the common denominator throughout all these sacked managers. I’m sick of player power at this club. Why should anyone listen to players who refuse to play for Manchester United and blame everyone but themselves for poor performances. I’m sick of them.
What happened to this amazing club.There is nothing to be positive about
The problem is that united never had good manager who won sth (minus mou but he did sth good for us!)
RUUD at the wheel incoming
Terrifying thought.
Glazzers only look after the ccommercial side, but are the players not also apart of the commercial side?
Giving Ruud the job, is a knee jerk reaction for a quick fix without solving the issues. I’d rather leave Ten Hag in the job until the end of the year