"The 49ers Want Aiyuk Back, But Not At The Price He Wants" Update On Aiyuk's Viral Video
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lets talk about the real question at hand here. wtf are franchise tag numbers going to look like in 5 years? lol.
the real question is how much the NFL and the owners making LOL
Short answer, it depends on alot of stuff. For QBs, I'd guess about 50mil.
For everybody else 28m.
But again, it depends on;
How much the cap goes up each year,
What position,
how many consecutive years has the player been tagged,
And what percentage of the contracts the top five paid players are getting is counted as salary and not signing bonus.
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Long answer;
If you assume the salary cap goes up 10% each year for the next 5 years it'll be at 410mil.
If you assume that the top five players in the position are only getting 20% of their deal as a signing bonus,
If you assume that most of the top five players at each non QB position are signed for 8-10% of the salary cap, and the top QBs sign for 16%.
Then it be 50-55mil to tag a QB in 2028, and 26-32mil to tag anyone else for 1 year.
Over paying a WR is not the recipe to win a SB.
Unless his name is Justin Jefferson
Yep. Chiefs were blessed with Kelce who produces like a top WR but gets paid like a TE.
Tell that to Coach LA McVay lol
@@dollyllama69420 Kupp wasn't being overpaid when they won..?
When 6 other guys (the O line and the QB) have to be competent for the 7th guy (the WR) to have success you would sure seem to be correct
all these contracts got out of hand. everytime a new record contract is signed everyone thinks they deserve more than that.
literally happens every year. they are not out of hand.
@@wildcavemann you just made my point. Every year multiple new record contracts are signed bc people think they deserve more than what the last guy got
@@SpooxyCowboy1911 If you want to complain about 'out of hand' contracts, complaining about the league WITH a salary cap may not be the way to go
@@SpooxyCowboy1911 didn’t make your point as the game grows the product who is the players deserve more. Just stop hating on the next mans pockets.
@@coldturkey3012 I’m not hating on anyone’s pockets wtf. It’s great they get paid millions of dollars to play a kids game. I’m just saying every player thinks they deserve the max dollar when in reality only a small percentage of them do.
The 49ers don't have to tag him until next season lol
I'm with the 9ers. There is an influx of great receivers and it's only gonna get more crazy. Every class is somehow better than the last.
They offered him 27-28m. He's not worth 30m and AJ Brown money, he's not a top 5 and this coming from a 49er fan. He's only hurting himself if he holdsout like Bosa did last year.
He seems like a really skilled receiver who’s also greatly benefitting from having many other very talented playmakers on the team.
I just…don’t think Aiyuk would contribute like a typical #1 on a different team. I think it’d be a mistake to pay him like a #1 receiver
I cannot wrap my head around the fact that fedex charges $160 to $205 for oversized packages depending on destination.
That's usually how it goes in pro sports 😂😂😂 teams typically want to keep good players around but they have to be able to afford them
The WR market is insanely over valued rn. I don't know if I'm 100% correct in that opinion but it sure seems that way
For transcendent talents like the top 10 WRs in the game (Hill, JJ, Chase, etc.) the big contracts make sense because they can be game changers on offense. Idk if I'm convicted that Aiyuk is a game changer though
@@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo Aiyuk can be a game changer, when healthy. he's made some insane plays. However I dont think he's worth top WR market money.
@@shawshifter2510 I would have to agree. he's a great receiver with solid hands but the offence last year was ran through CMC. not to mention the situation with purdy next year. I dont think the team going to let Aiyuk dictate the terms of the deal if it means hurting the team chances for a ring.
Well we’ve seen this 100 times eithier they’ll trade/release him or he’ll sit in the stands and go on strike lmao
I spose he could go coach the steelers if he wants to hold out 😂
We’ve literally seen this with Deebo and Bosa and neither of them were traded or released lol
He hast unfollowed the 49ers yet 😂
Shefty is so empty inside and you can feel his energy 😢 miss you IAN
Just because you like Ian more doesn't mean you should be reaching for things to not like about someone else. It's fine if you genuinely dislike him, but what's the value in saying something negative about someone you've never met?
Are you guys good at eating chocolate chip cookies?
Yea he’s a clown, always has been. Whenever he’s on Prime time, he always tries to be analyst.
@@dudedavid34shefty sucks man, stop the nonsense.
You can tell it brings him joy bringing up how little leverage aiyuk has. 🥶 Miss yew IAN
Does Pat have an espn quota? This should've been a Rappsheet convo.....
He Did have his best year last year I believe he deserves to paid more then Amon St. Brown BUT less then Jefferson...I say between $29 and $30/per year... I just hope he does come back and they find a middle ground...
@@adrianbelgrave4123 Great story. Now run and continue spam pasting until you hit on someone who asked.
@@rukus9585 spam pasting idk what the heck that is but God Bless you though aight 🙏🏾👍🏾✌🏾
As a niner fan, they should go up to $28 to match Deebo. If he doesn’t want that, then we got two rookies who can step in. Love BA but we got too many top tier weapons to pay him $30 mil a year. Offer him a two year with a player option on the second. He’s protected if he gets injured and after the season he can seek a contract with whoever.
"Of course, we want a star player back as cheap as possible!" - literally ever NFL manager ever.
Lets go boys!
Pat you should run a segment on Joe Hendry and his appearance on NXT. I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more of him soon. He would be an awesome guest!
Who breaks the market with ballooning prices and forcing a hard reset like it happened to RBs: QBs or WRs?
If Daniel Jones getting 40mil per year did do it, then I don't see it EVER happening to the QB position..
@@nhd6128 But look at it now, 40 isn't near the top. Lawrence got 55 for...who knows why. Some super mid QB is gonna get 60-65 just for existing.
Rbs had a reset because the position became easy to fill for cheap
QBs that only works if you hit a home run on a rookie contact. Soon as they hit on that they are going to 45-50 m per year If they are real good
And you aren’t winning with a crap qb. You can find the 30th best rb and still have him be productive no problem.
Its WR and the Packers will do it.
This guy wants more per year than Larry Bird made in his career. I have no concept of the money they want
Sure but ground beef was .89 a pound when Bird was playing.
I too expect to make more money than people from the 1980s typically made
@@RyTrapp0more than Larry bird?
@@michaelguido7505 No, because I'm not a starting professional athlete, like Brandon Aiyuk
So, is he seeking $300m a year, or are they only offering $1.50 a year?
He wants 25+ per year & they'd rather sign him to 15 per year, while paying guys like CMC, Debo, Kettle, etc
@@nhd6128Cap. 49ers offered him an extension at $26.5 million a year before Amon St. Brown signed his extension. Aiyuk and his agent just wanted to wait till Justin Jefferson signed his extension and thought that would force 49ers to pay Aiyuk in that range. Aiyuk and his agent overplayed their hand and now resorting to crying on social media thinking another team will save him and pay him Jefferson money. They’ll realize nobody gone pay any WR Justin Jefferson money right now. Justin Jefferson is the cap for WRs this year.
Well you can't afford eveyone. This is still just a business and teams have caps. Not eveyone can get paid big money on the same team. Sorry if that offended people but that's reality. Or get rid of the cap space and let's teams pay everyone what they want
The guy that replied is wrong, the niners offered 26 a year but Brandon wants 30
@@nhd6128no they offered 26 m per year already lol
He wants over 30
Everybody talks about contract money but what about ticket prices and merch? It's way too expensive.
ehhh you’re not entitled to affordable tickets and merch
How many big money receivers have SB rings? Thinking about HOF receivers in the 2000s, do any have a ring?
The last WR to win a Superbowl while also being the highest paid WR was Jerry Rice.
I can't help but notice all the teams mentioned signing large deals to their receivers haven't been winning any super bowls recently.
you could also say all qbs suck except Brady and mahomes cuz no other qbs won a sb recently
the colts had expensive wrs. the cowboys in the 1990s had top tier wrs. Jerry Tice won super bowls. I'm certain the pay was lower but the salary cap percentage SHOULD be similar
100000%
if you're trying to win a super bowl, it's not ideal to put a guy Ilona the field hurt halfway through season, and expect him to keep playing when he looks worse. you're risking a player like Justin Jefferson who sat, and may have played if his money was already settled
@@curtisb8557 Tom Brady took less money so his team would be better overall. He's the GOAT his peers should be taking notes.
Can someone from the 49ers fan base confirm if one of our National Rugby League (NRL) players have a spot in the recruitment stage. The NRL player is "Latrell Mitchell" who plays for South Sydney Rugby League Club?
Has it ever worked out for a player who hold out or got a trade because they wanted more money? Seriously, when has it worked? Maybe don’t then
Yes it has. Plenty have held out and got paid by the team.
@@johnmitts2925 I’m talking about gotten paid and won championships
@@rhh3828 didn't chris jones do it last year?
@@rhh3828 Chris Jones held out last year, missed week 1, won a ship.
Many times it has worked for players
I'm so happy on this team. I'm luck y....I come in with a good attitude, and I make it anywhere.
Anyone else tired of hearing about millionaire “money problems”…
Absolutely. Athletes get paid way too much. I understand they bring in revenue. We can solve a lot of problems with the amount of money sports brings in. Players have way to much power
@@derricklavoie2513 stop bootlicking the owners
i'm tired of hearing about "poor" billionaires and their "poor" franchises.
@@gerardangelo7975 And you are one of those fans who wants a team to get rid of players who can't perform to your standard for sure
You idiots realize that whatever money the athletes don't get goes to the billionaire owners right?
Aiyuk gonna be the first billion dollar WR
The secret sauce is NOT to pay big money to a WR but having generational TE, besides, I believe teams are like…. How much does being in Kyle Shannahan offense boost his numbers, Christian McCaffrey was very good in Carolina and now he’s offensive player of the year….
He's a good player but his value is at its highest on the 49ers. He wouldn't be a dominant #1 WR on any other team without that supporting cast.
Niner fan here, and I agree 💯! He is on a team where everyone is getting paid… but maybe 2 players that are currently over 30, barely. Bosa and Williams. Everyone else is low to high 20s which was offered to aiyuk. And Aiyuk is not a game changer like Bosa and Trent, like CMC and Deebo… just because Jefferson got 35 does not mean Aiyuk needs 30 plus. Dude has a “big head” and I hope he gets humbled, one way or the other.
Vote ! Where does he go ? I want Pittsburgh .
49ers can plug anyone to that system. They didn’t need to pay deebo and they don’t need to pay aiyuk. They already got Mccafery as their main weapon.
Sooooo at what point can we call players selfish for wanting more than they are probably worth. Also who dictates your worth for a team?
If everyone else is constantly asking for more, wouldn’t you? Not being rude, just thinking out loud here. Also, I would say the team dictates that worth, right? 🤷♂️
@HowardThePug that depends. If the guys asking for more have been around longer, then probably not. If I'm the older guy and making less than the younger guy, I might say something then. But just because one guy makes X dollars doesn't mean you have to right now, too. I guess then comes back to who dictates that value. Should there be a group in the nfl that prices every players worth and teams can match or give more or less? I mean aiyuks value to the 49ers is definitely going to be different than a team like Washington or indy. So idk. I do think him making that video making it seem like the 49ers was kinda a low blow
"more than they are probably worth" followed by "Also who dictates your worth for a team" is wild
The market sets the value, plain and simple
@RyTrapp0 well one is a question so that's why it was put at the end. But the market is not a flat rate for all. You would give aiyuk Justin Jefferson money if you already have weapons in place. That's why I said teams also dictate the value you're worth to that team. He shouldn't be making the same as Davante Adam or Tyreek Hill.
@@rileyfair5 totally valid and fair points. I kind of like that idea about the ‘council’ or whatever that dictates value to which teams can then decide from there what to do. Makes it easier for the league as a whole
DAMMIT!!! I was hoping the Wyatt Sicks took out Pat yesterday!
Hes never caught 80+ passes. Hes never caught 10 TDs. I mean do we really think 1k receiving yards for 2 years means you should be a top 10 paid receiver????
He’s one of the best run blocking WRs in the league, had 1342 yards last year, and what’s with these arbitrary thresholds you’re setting. Never had 80 catches lol he’s had 78 and 75 back to back years and would’ve had 80 this year if he didn’t miss 1 game.
Players don't get paid on what they've done, they get paid for future production. Best blocking WR in the NFL n avg. 18 yards a catch last yr. 6' at least 200 lbs. I'd say he's worth $30 mill with helping Purdy progress
If that’s the case then trade him! Like he said, they don’t want him.
@@berry5557 The marks for a great wide receiver over the years largely have been 100 catches, 1000 yards, 10TDs. I said 80 because thats an even smaller hurdle that he still hasnt cleared. And saying he missed one game when the games have been increased by 1 since these numbers have been a staple is irrelevant. 2 decent years is not enough to make you one of the highest paid at your position. 2 great years maybe but his years were not great. They were decent. If those are the numbers he continues to put up after he gets paid like hes one of the best at his position then its a giant overpay to me. Noone is ever going to consider you a top 5 WR if those numbers are what youre putting up. Those are the numbers of a great #2 guy.
Pat says “come to the Colts” we already know it ain’t happening 🤣
Pats actually incorrect you can be franchise tagged an infinite number of times. Not just two. The price tags after 2 are usually just abused and never used.
Does anyone remember when Adam got his ass kicked & came on tv with a black eye🤣
Schefter is becoming Lou Holtz before our eyes
I hope they don’t get a deal done and they tag him two times in a row and trade him to Cleveland 😂
Career going great.... i try my best
They need to trade him, 9ers don't want to pay so this means he can't stay
End of story
With the crazy amount of highly talented receivers coming out of college each year who are ready to go right away, I'm guessing this WR bubble is going to burst sooner rather than later.
If he decides to hold out he could always go coach the steelers 😂
They want McCaffrey they want Purdy but they want Aiyuk and Samuel for a deal. Can't blame either player for feeling like they are a bigger part of the offense than the 49ers front office has them at against the market
People falling for every little bait are hilarious 😂
BA is by far the best WR on the team. He’s definitely an asset
He needs to get his head right. Going for that bag instead of putting in one more year and have a damn good chance for a ring.
Please 49ers fans... STOP saying you dont need him. The organization is literally going to force him to stay (when other teams would give him the money hes asking for)... so yes, according to the team, yall need him
Get yo money ain’t no loyalty in business
Miss the old catch rules. The “TD” against Philly they replayed 30 times was a drop🤷♀️ Aiyuk isn’t a top 5 WR, maybe not even top 10. He is tripping
you have heard of the concept that "rising tides floats all boats" right ? in this case Brandon as much as I love him is forced to give us a team freindly deal so we can surround Purdy with the Right tackkle he needs and ouir defensive edge rusher that will put us over the top
$29-$30 per year is what i believe he should get paid... Last year he showed why he was our First rd draft pick
now way they can pay him there are so many guys on that team+ purdys contract coming up
is the salary cap real ?
Its nothing like Higgins. Aiyuk signed a contract, has a 5th year to go.
If it’s 21… so about 5-6 mil will be 25 percent of it.. so around 27…
Lucky
There is talk of Williams from Detroit for Aiyuk, and stay in SF. This put my mind at ease, no possible way Detroit does that. I hope no one picks Williams in fantasy. :)
Wuuuut
Who even is Jaydn Williams?!? Pat keeps talking about him but who is he?!?
Jayden Daniel’s - Rookie QB for Commanders. Team mates with Aiyuk at ASU.
Take it now dog!!!
It’s time to let him go. They need to focus on this season. Plus they need to save money. I understand how good BA is but it’s too much drama and money
sounds like he has a greedy agent in his ear that’s about to ruin his career for a couple extra schmekles
Should have just taken the 30 million and be happy, but it does suck for SF players that the income tax is almost 50% in san fran. Absurd robbery
Sounds like you are the team messenger, ah
Wonder if shefty is good at eating chocolate chip cookies? 🤔
Aiyuk is good. But he's the 4th best offensive weapon on that team. He's a top 15 receiver and probably wants nearly 30m. That's ridiculous lol
SF has an embarrassment of riches with more top shelf skill players than they can pay with Brock's contract up after this year.
He clearly cares more about money than a chance at a Super Bowl so I’m over him get him out, send him to a team that won’t even sniff the playoffs
COME TO THE PATRIOTS AIYUK
Give him more than Waddle and call it a day
No thx, WR’s don’t win SB’s in case you haven’t noticed
That’s his starting point I think
Sf I can get not wanting to pay that much. They are gonna need to pay purdy huge soon
Eff that....make him play out his contract and maybe franchise tag him another year....it would be stupid if the nines gave him a big contract
@dwick9959 Kyle don't know how to run the ball in the big games so he might as well pay him
@@Rowsy91 purdy better than discount
Poor aiyuk. He might be franchise tagged and still make over 22 million. Poor guy
Yea my guess is he wants Justin Jefferson money
Need jj numbers
Not gunna happen
Other teams paying their WRs don't have the same amount of talent on their teams that also needs to be paid. Love BA, but he might be like the 9th or 10th most important guy on the team
Bro, take the $ and win.
He should go to the Packers or Lions
Trade him for a top o-lineman, and use a draft pick if you need to.
Taking a pay cut is stupid take the money
Pay Aiyuk
They don’t want him ENOUGH that’s it.
BA is a great player, but he only had such a good year last year because Deebo was seen as our star receiver eating the double teams and George was injured for a large part of this season. If he chases the paycheck he's not going to look as good in another team especially one w/o other threats.
Aa a Niner fan, its a blessing n a curse to have so many all pro/high end players.
They are great but eventually want to get paid. There's only so much to go around. N Purdys deal is coming up!
Some r gonna be gone soon, the window is closing with the team as is.
Niners see so spoiled. Just let the man walk, you’ve already got kittle, deebo, mcaffery, juscyk, and purdy just on the skill position of the offense. Not even talking the elite dense. They have to start preparing to pay their qb if they thinks he’s the one.
Sick of these off-season filler segments
And they'll get him.. just like everyone they want
Descend WR but definitely no No. 1 WR
I have a sneaking suspicion he wants 29-30 million, which is absurd. Especially for him. I think he's good but he is not that type of guy. If he goes somewhere else he will definitely not be as good.
Aiyuk will look great in Purple n Black. 😈😎
SF will end up trading him and soon, Aiyuk will force his way out if they won’t pay up which is mistake as Pearsall needs a year of development n Debo is a wide back.
They have a team full of stars that can win a couple of super bowls. Players take less for the chance to win a ring. He'd rather go to a loser I guess.
Aiyuk to the Browns for Amari Cooper?
At some point, players just gotta learn to take less money than they want. It might seem unfair, especially if that player has worked hard and all but everyone can't have like some Justin Jefferson contract or even higher than that
At some point, teams just gotta learn to give more money than they want to. They make hundreds of millions every year.
@@salineaddict9850
What is the new thing....tell us you have no clue about the salary cap, while not telling us??
@Siksika925 salary cap doesn't matter to these players. They are securing the money the deserve because they are key elements of the team. You want a great team you pay for it. If anyone should take less money, it would be the QB.
@@Siksika925 my comment was a joke…
@@alexchat3020
Yes, you still have the salary cap. Are you people that inept you have no clue about the salary cap?
You can't just pay all of your players whatever you want.
No need to respond. That other female was ridiculous as well. He/she tried to claim it as a joke.
Yea, both of you are a joke. Now kick rocks.
I've been watching this show since 2019. Something is off. The vibe is off
Plus he blocks… pay the man
BA isnt as indispensable as other teammates, unfortunately
then they dont want him
Take 25 mil or play on 5th and then get tagged 2 yrs in a row. I love BA but if he was that good another team would have paid him how much he wants and gave up the trade capital for him
He doesn’t deserve more than cmc, warner, Samuel, and Williams. But if he makes a little bit more that’s fair but 30, hell no.
Trade Him. Cleaver, pearsall, and them moving cmac to slot back which they are doing already there it is. Hed pick uo two first
Shits old trade him off and use the assets obtained to build us a o line
Be humble be honest and be gracious play ball not money there are people who have been to war for way less come on just play ball