“The Long Game” - Stephen A. Smith vs Pat McAfee: Who’s More Valuable to ESPN?
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One of the reasons people watch Mcafee is because it isn't about politics.
Stephen A. makes me change the channel, and I know I'm not the only one.
And his ratings are through the roof
I stopped watching ESPN because of SAS. RUclips is Gold now
I enjoy watching pat McAfee show more.
Yeah, but he does dumb stuff when he drinks. Only Colt to get drunk and almost drown in the Broad Ripple Canal. He says the wrong thing only once ... he's acrewed.
I can't get into Pat show
@jackharle1251 allegedly
ESPN means nothing anymore
Not giving them any views. They are sick in the head
both are the reason i aint watching
@@drlove994 I’m Greek
Pickel ball and the WNBA, waste of time.
Lol y'all watch ESPN stop the cap
ESPN has no clout now.
@@drlove994"high percentage" of that market share = clout
Pat is t shirt and Stephen A is suit. More people enjoy the less political conversation. Also, they didn’t mention the BIG names that pat pulls to join his show. One of the biggest women’s athletes in talk right now is Clark and she joked to join weekly. Like cmon Pat by a long shot more valuable.
Stephen A Smith is the most prepared? Is this the same guy who doesn't know who's on the Knicks roster? lol
They have different deals Pat McAfee is getting paid 30 million dollar a year for the production of his show. Meaning he has to pay everyone in on the show the camera people...etc.. He has to divide the 30 million amongst a lot of people, ( he makes the show ESPN just plays it on their channel) Steven A Smith is just and employee at Espn.( Espn produces the whole show Steven A is just the star) So when it comes down to it Steven A Smith makes more money if not way more money then Pat completely different deals.
Doesn't matter ESPN is failing. They lost all major sports programming. Stephen A is not respected anywhere but ESPN. Dude lies and fence sits on all issues. He's a total clown. Who do you know who acts the way he does and is taken serious, dress, facial, expressions, arrogance, and will step on anyone to make a dollar to stay relevant.
I’m sure there’s AD rev outside that 30 million pats getting.
@@jeremiahthompson8951 i agree bro i dont watch espn, or Steven A his is just a take machine lol and espn is owned by Disney so....... just saying their different deals
You explained Pat’s deal perfect 👌 A lot of stooges don’t understand this about Pat’s show 🤣
Pat over SAS all day everyday..man is entertaining but not Pat McAfee entertaining.
@@MrBalockaye Pat is winning for sure, he makes RUclips rev, and he has a lot of other sponsorship type of deals. He's killing it
Steven A is an actor !!
A bad one at that
"Stephen A. Simp" as Black Conservative Prospective calls him 😂
CORRECTION: ACTRESS
Takes it in the in anagram of Lana...!
Its tv buds
I won't watch ESPN because of Steven a
lol so you’re part of cancel culture
@sujitkamath7361 not watching is part of cancel culture. Please explain
What an ignorant comment.
If you do a poll of basketball fans on if Stephan A is a “serious” analyst you’d see that he has no credibility. He is the meme that sport fans refer to when they mention the talking heads on tv. Ask basketball fans if there is more correct, serious, or accurate takes on First take or on Inside the NBA. Poll wouldn’t even be remotely close
Mcafee has 15 employees to pay. He’s not an employee
Stephen A is not just a personality, he's also an executive producer of First Take. McAfee is not an ESPN personality, he licensed his show to ESPN, but he still owns it and also owns all the revenue off his RUclips platform. In regards to ESPN, Stephen A is their guy. Pat is a wildcard, and I dont believe he wants to be tied to anywhere long term and lose his creative freedom.
He’s also a racist …. and shouldn’t be allowed to talk about a white person then…… if white people gotta stay black peoples conversations then he should do the same.
Agreed. Anyone who watches PMS know he's openly hated the ESPN suits
PBD, read your comment section. SAS, on Inside the NBA? Your listeners HATE the idea. They don't like or respect SAS. He's just there.
PBD is a sports fan, yet when he talks about it on his show he literally exposes himself on what little knowledge he actually has lol it’s borderline embarrassing
Steven A Smith wants Jimmy Kimmels' job once he retires.. I think Steven is done with sports media.
God I hope so, he’s the worst.
McAfee is NOT an ESPN employee. Inform yourselves!
You’re the employee of whoever signs the check
Pat apologized twice.
So he’s a private contractor under contract with ESPN?
Seems kinda like the same thing.
He licenses his show to ESPN…..not an employee 🤷♂️
this difference would only matter in a law court
@PBD- This is a horrible take. I love PBD, but you guys don't have the correct information in this video. You are trying to compare Stephen a Smith to Pat McAfee and the Pat McAfee show. McAfee has an established program that ESPN paid him for, so they can air his shows on ESPN. Stephen a Smith is not at the top of his game anymore because he has gone woke, and everyone has finally caught up to how he paints these false narratives about athletes and sports. People are sick of Stephen A Smith, and ESPN on TV is dying right in front of our eyes, so they are using Stephen a Smith as the black face for the investors at Disney and whatever other powerful company. Probably Pfizer.
Someone has to talk to him on that dumb app to pay for questions and try to get him set straight. Usually PBD and crew got these things down
@@coltonklein3757 Yeah, the Minnect app that you're talking about, I looked it up to see the prices to message PBD and it was like $5k to speak with him. It's insane.
I love PBD too but it’s hard for me not to watch when they talk sports
Shannon Sharpe is keeping Stephen A Smith alive! Shay Shay is the reason i occasionally watch First Take. I watch Pat and Skip Bayless more often for sports content.
I don't even tune into ESPN.
ESPN is trash. Steven a smith doesn’t deserve a penny
Huh, have you seen his ratings?
Trash yes. But gets views for being stupid
They won't miss your view
He might be trash and u can haye him... ...but people deserve to be paid for what they do for their company. In Steven A Smiths case, he deserves a ridiculous amount of money. Not only does he do first take, but he does NBA Countdown and frequently appears on other shows on the network. All of which draw audiences and clicks.
For a guy who only averaged 1.5 ppg in college he sure does talk like he knows the game more than the accomplished professionals.
It's not easy averaging 1.5 points per game when you only played part of one game.
McAfee came in with all his own infrastructure. His show was pretty much plug and play. He had his own set owns his building had recurring guests and sponsors the he got himself he broadcast everything himself. ESPN has to provide all of that for Stephen a on top of the fact his gimmick is wearing out all he does is yell and say wild shit he probably doesn't actually believe.
McAfee owns his show.
And ratings are awful
You may wanna combine the ESPN ratings with the RUclips views @jaredgarrison333
😂
@@jaredgarrison333
Pat and Shannon came in and completely changed the dynamics. SAS doesn't come close. But SAS has longevity and that matters.
Stepehen A. is a moderate and very good friends with Sean Hannity. He even talks about why blacks might vote Trump. However, he sometimes talk about black issues so now he's consider "Woke" and people say they'll never watch his show again. Absolutely incredible that you can't say anything possible about black people without being considered "Woke".
Thank You. There are a lot of uninformed idiots in the comments.
PBD, really? You believe that FOX News would pay 25 million to SAS to be their center/left voice on the network?
They might
Pbd must just really enjoy SAS lol because SAS is the reason people are tired of people like skip bayless and hot take artist😂😂
Face of ESPN?!?😂😂😂😂. Why even discuss this? Cable is dead. I watch guys on RUclips.
Right..guys making RUclips content on sports have better opinions and knowledge then espn analysts
A lot of people DONT watch ESPN because of Stephan A smith not the other way around
Steven A Smith doesn't speak on sports with nearly as much substance compared to the others on ESPN shows. He's really just there for entertainment. I'm not going to deny that he's the face of ESPN, but damn.. he deserves that much?
SAS time is up. In Philly, his name is associated with opps. The players pushing him away as well.
I want to make this crystal clear! I AM NOT and NEVER have been a fan of Stephen A Smith. I can’t put my finger on exactly what it is about him that bothers me so much but I can’t sit here and not tell the truth about this situation in my own opinion! He and his agents were asking for 25 million a year and ESPN came in with 18 which is a slap in the face to him! You got guys like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman who only do football broadcasting one game per week making 15 and 18 million per year. Then you got Stephen A who litterally wears like 5 different hats “jobs” at espn! He has first take one of espns most watched show after Pat McAfee, not to mention smith covers all sports, NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, boxing, UFC, MLS, and not to mention he started off as a journalist coving the NBA and worked his way up to becoming the biggest name in the biggest company in all of sports in that era. Yes these days are different bc of podcasts ect but 15-20 years ago he was doing all this. He got fucked over because he got caught in the middle of signing his old deal and a few years later guys who were well below him when it comes to name recognition and pure talent started getting bigger contracts then him. He has been patiently waiting and has been 100% honest about his plans when his new contract is up that he is “coming for his bag” he congratulated Pat McAfee when he signed his huge deal and said I have nothing but respect for the man bc all he has done is raise my value by getting that bag” i will make a prediction right now, if ESPN doesn’t at min meet him in the middle at let’s say 22.5 million a year ish I believe he will go above there heads to who??? The owners of ESPN which is?? Disney and say hey guys is there some sort of racism going on here at ESPN because I have worked from the ground up put everything into this company for my entire life just to be undervalued when I work 5 separate jobs at espn and by far the hardest worker here but am only being offered the same amount as Joe Buck 15 m and Troy Aikman 18m per year who only have to commentate one game per week meanwhile I am on first take 5 days a week, cover the NBA all season, cover the NFL all season, deal with baseball stuff, not to mention any time there is controversy, I am expected to be the one who put my opinion out about the situation every time risking being canceled or criticized for my opinion? Disney will not risk a lawsuit for being racist because this time it actually looks like that may be the case when it comes to Steven a Smith. I predict he ends up getting 22 million a year minimum if not by Espn by some other company but that is unlikely to have to happen bc espn will pay him!
You said you've never liked SAS and dont know why. So you dislike him for no reason. SAS was a good analyst before he split with Skip. Ever since ESPN chose SAS as their guy, power got to his head and he feels invincible to say whatever he wants because what ESPN has turned out to be as well.
@@JuniorR-u3zhe doesn’t like him. It’s called being objective.
…you lost me at 25 million.
Espn will eventually fire Pat like Fox fired Tucker, so stephen A will win technically, but Pat will become more successful in the long term
Stephen A started his RUclips channel after making a name for himself in the biggest sport platform.. ESPN. Pat McAfee started from the ground up … you need to take into account that.
P-Mac is the face of ESPN now. He is so much easier to listen to and watch
The corporate conglomerates have lost the public’s interest . No one wants to support the machine anymore. They would much rather support the free thinkers and independent journalists etc.
I bet McAfee is getting a huge budget for the rest of his show and his own personal staff. He is effectively getting way more money than Smith. They are giving McAfee a portion of their channel in addition to the money. If Pat leaves he pulls those followers with him and trades money for independence with the chance to grow that money back. Smith is going to make his money but for Pat the sky is the limit. He is the Rogan of sports in terms of popularity and being able to set his own terms.
SAS is very hard to listen too! I can't listen to him without being annoyed to the point I don't watch or listen to SAS!
Naw he funny
There is no face of ESPN. They have many faces..... That's where Stephen A is confused..
All media has fallen off.
If you buy valutainment merch, ur a goober.
ESPN just did mass layoffs last year. They would have no issue getting rid of SAS if necessary. That is also why they just hired Shanon Sharpe to ultimately replace SAS if needed.
I watch First Take every morning.
ESPN backup plan is not just Pat, it’s also Shannon! You heard it here first!
Make no mistake about it, ESPN is paying Pat $85 million to air his progrum, which he still owns.
PBD: "No it's 18 million a year over 5 years, 91 million." Whaaat?! The math doesn't math
The way these guys are talking about SAS, I can tell they don't watch ESPN
Pat did not pay millions of dollars to get Aaron Rodgers on the podcast. PBD do your homework.
Mcafee has 15 employees, yall dont get it.
Pats contract is also paying 15 people not just himself paying for the boys on the show as well
Stephen A has said on the mcafee show that he saw how Pat did the licensing deal and plans to do the same. That gives him full creative control and more money
Stephen A gets eyes yes but he’s also one of the reasons why so many ppl stopped watching ESPN, Sportscenter, etc. people are so sick of the argue to argue and shove politics down our throats brand of sports talk that he helped standardize at ESPN.
Pats show is what ESPN needs to get back to doing if they ever want to gain lost viewership back.
Also…in regards to subscribers, Yes Pat has done it longer on YT but Stephen A has also done sports talk for a whole lot longer. In my opinion, Stephen A already has his audience, not getting new ones but Pat gets new ones every day. So I really don’t think Stephen A’s YT subscribers will get much higher from there. People that want to watch him already know how and where. I’m may be wrong on whether or not he gets many more but I also might not be
Hate it or not the numbers and audience don’t lie
Without Stephen A, Nobody is tuning into ESPN in the daytime
Future looks bright USA!!!!
Blame Tony Romo and CBS for the outrageous salaries in broadcasting.
Pat McAfee has been cleaning up on YT for years, he's a staple in WWE as a performer and a commentator. He's also on College Football Saturdays.! Nobody gives 2 shits about ESPN or SAS.
Stephen A. Smith contributes to just about every show ESPN has, especially when it comes to NBA content.
Pat's show is making that. Not straight McAfee. Pat's employees still have to get paid and those salaries come out of the contract that ESPN pays.
Lmao TNT doesn't have NBA game rights anymore.
i love your videos
Can you research the ave. income ( minus theft) of the SAS viewer?
mcafee is one of the best things to happen to wwe in a long time - great announcer and super fun for the live crowd!
The absolute lack of sports knowledge and SAS history is baffling. Tom is as transparent as Adam and PBD trying to talk his buddy up he’s a joke who yells over everyone that proves him wrong so almost every convo
One thing you're leaving out though is that Steven a Smith on his show talks about a lot of other stuff other than just sports so that's going to bring a different group or multiple different groups of people into his show whereas Pat show it's all just sports stuff
ESPN is the only network that shows hockey!
Guys it’s apples and oranges. McAfee owns his own show and licenses a portion of it to ESPN for which he gets paid. Steven a Smith’s RUclips channel is an afterthought. You can’t make the point you’re trying to make using the data that you’re trying to use to make it.
Pat didn’t lie about his playing career
McAfee's contract is for his whole show not just to him. He pays all his guys from that. Stephen A offer is just for him
I can listen to Pat McAfee all day long I can't listen to Stephen A Smith for a minute.
No one cares about ESPN anymore. I watch my sports news at Barstool Sports..!
Couple things. McAfee is on a licensing deal if I'm not mistaken, so the $85 million goes to Pat's company and then he pays his people and covers expenses and runs his whole business with that money. Stephen A is getting salary, so ESPN pays him and pays for the production. Pretty different.
Wells said...Pats salary from ESPN would be significantly lower than whatever they're offering to Stephen
Pat MaCafee also pays the people on his show out of the money he gets paid. So what MaCafee gets is a portion of that yearly salary.
I only watch espn for a game on MNF, NBA and maybe Sunday Night baseball. Other than that, I have business watching espn.
Pat cuz he’s younger and doesn’t have to raise his voice and choose a side in order to debate. Pat just speaks what he feels and what his real opinion actually is. Authenticity is the way; not the way of Steven A
Maybe ESPN gave Shannon Sharpe a long term deal is because he is going to replace Steve Smith if he dont accept the offer they offered him
i'm rolling with Pat, ESPN is not the same no more
Pat McAfee is down to earth and honest and nice to people, SAS is negative.
Pat licenses his show to espn so part of his money goes to actual show production costs.
Smith is the character oswald bates from a living color
Everyone who was or is the best left. Dan Patrick, Ken Ober.etc. No one wants to be there, so they have to keep someone (Stephen A).
I started following McAfee during Covid, so 2020. I was one of 36k subs. So, 2.5M in 4 years.
Mcafee is licensing his show to espn so it’s completely different. Pat owns his show and they license it from him so he has all the equity. Stephen a works for espn
i feel like this is a stephen a smith advertisement, real sports fans know sas ain’t like that
McAfee owns his show and is basically a partner and employee of ESPN.... Stephen A is strictly an employee... but i think Stephen A deserves to be paid more just because of ALL the other things he does for the network besides First Take
Stephen a smith problem is he needs huge amounts of snow to perform his job. He really only pocketing like 30% of that after operating costs 😂😂😂
Pat the " WHAT IF" guy. What if Pat didn't think he was smart
McAfee is paid to produce/create his show which covers the supporting guys in his studio. SAS's pay is for SAS only.
A pat you need to sign SAS to a Contract
Stephen A leverage is going to undisputed with skip and shaking the sports world up
Stephen A is brilliant. He keeps espn relevant. Without him they would have nothing remotely entertaining except Pat. He should as for 25 million and when Pat contract is up he should ask for 30..And so on. That's all they got
Pat M is a football and betting guy - that’s where the money is.
They both make millions, AND MILLIONS of dollars
So Im still waiting a video about how you jump the gun and attack pat McAfee for not having Rogers on his show
I tune into Pats show and content… don’t know much about ESPN and don’t watch it outside UFC on the app
Streaming has absolutely zero influence on TV. If you know you can see someone on TV why would you join their channel? Awful comparison and McAfee is struggles on TV. Pat McAfee is not even close to Stephen A. like him or not.
Pat is basically a sub contractor.
Can we get a max kellerman topic
We found Maxi pads boyfriend
A piece of advice to the PBD podcast, keep this type of topic to a minimum, i was watching it live and many people including me were like "hello!!! Let's move on to the next topic" who cares what some guy makes for talking BS on ESPN, specially when most people are struggling to make ends meet paying up for rent, credit cards, gas and groceries. This was going on for too fkn long and most people were upset with the Stephen Nicks or whatever makes 9 million dollar a day crap.
Pat = licensing deal not an employee
if i was usa golf, id sue you for copying the usa hat