Hey Swissarex stop putting a bunch of fake ass comments in my f****** comment section I don't know who you are I've never seen your s*** ass product but f*** off
You didn’t mention the Sekio NH35A Movement in the Invicta Pro Diver. That Watch will out last every other one you showed. The bracelet sucks. But the actual watch is on point for the money. Nice presentation enjoyed it.
The closest thing that you can get to a Rolex without actually getting a Rolex is the ocean rover 2. It’s currently my favorite watch. Also I’m a welder and the OR2 is my everyday watch and it holds up great. Besides some scratches on the clasp, the bezel and sapphire crystal are still flawless.
I could not agree more! Had I known about them when I started collecting it would have been the one and only watch I purchased but since I've gone the route that I have gone I went from having absolutely no watches whatsoever to over 20 something watches in less than a year and I do agree my ocean Rover two is my absolute favorite I do believe the silent service their new watch is actually a better watch and has its own personality and look but as I was looking for that Rolex experience the ocean Rover delivers in spades as in my opinion it has all the best submariner features from all of the years all in one watch and is the actual Rolex that I really want that's not a Rolex like if I could go to Rolex and pick out what I wanted it would be exactly like the Ginault or2
I reviewed steinhart the video is on my channel I borrowed one from a viewer shortly after this video they do make a nice homage the bezel action is a little tight for my liking but no back play for the money they do offer a lot Ginault is definitely a better choice but 5 times the price and yes it's worth the extra money
I've looked at a Ginault. Yes, it's a nice watch....but certainly not worth FIVE TIMES the price of the Steinhart IMO. The bezel on my Steinie was stiff, but it loosened up in no time and was perfect. @@mr.eswatchreviews
Well I'm very glad that you are happy with your purchase but coming from somebody who's had both of these watches in their hands the Ginault wins all day and it's the little things that really make the difference there for example ginault uses extremely high quality clay for the ceramic bezel and has them Platinum sprayed in the numerals the indices are sterling silver and all set by hand then the watch is fully assembled by just two individuals then regulated in five positions over 6 weeks and when you order it it is made just for you specifically it's about as close to Rolex quality that you can get without having to spend Rolex money not to mention ginault has the glidelock system and screw links in the bracelet if I remember correctly the steinhardt only has micro adjust and a partially pressed clasp with push pins I mean please don't misunderstand I think the steinhardt is an excellent watch and as far as the five digit homages go it is definitely up there in my book
@@mr.eswatchreviews Actually, the Steinhart has a milled clasp and screw links in the bracelets. And the sterling silver is no better than stainless steel for the indices...except it sounds more expensive and allows them to charge more. I will, however, agree that the Steinhart needs a glide-lock or some kind of on the fly adjustment on the clasp. The clasp IS it's weakest point. That and the less effective cyclops. But hey - dollar for dollar, I'll take the Steinie all day long.
Been watching your vids for sometime now. I like them. I have several watches myself and I enjoy your collection. I do think IMHO the Invicta should earn a 7.0 using your scale. They hold up great and are accurate.
Which ones are you the most interested in bill I'll find you some links when I made this video I wasn't an affiliate for anybody yet not that even that does me any good because being AliExpress affiliate I haven't made hardly s***lol but tell me which ones you're interested in the most and I'll get you some links
All right bill look in the description I've put in links to all the watches that I would recommend buying with exception of the Invicta and Pagani I no longer recommend Pagani whatsoever and Invicta you can just go to their store or Amazon
personally i think its stupid to spend 10k on a Rolex when you can spend 1/10th of the cost for a decent watch. i just like the Rolex style but not the price. Ginault looks pretty good and its reasonable. i don't need the name brand. nothing wrong with wearing a homage since it is not branded.
I agree 💯 as much as I would like to have a Rolex I genuinely and honestly feel that they are highly overpriced as their price tag reflects what a entire automobile cost new and if that's not what they cost now that's what they cost you know not that long ago either way there's not as much steel in that watch as there is in a car so there's no way you can tell me that that watch is more valuable than a car
Great review.😊. I wear a G-Shock at work mostly. Going from cold outside in and out of a hot vehicle. A Movado quartz failed . I actually had the movement replaced. But was looking for something more water resistant.
I obviously have a thing for the automatic movements I guess it's the whole mechanical thing is what does it for me I do like the Casio G-Shock but believe it or not a buddy of mine works on a crab boat here in North Carolina and I gave him a pro diver quartz 40 mm and that thing is taking an ass whooping and a half and it still works
Like you I am a big fan of Ginault and they hold up against a lot of premium brands in terms of finishing. If you want the submariner homage look with something that actually feels like a quality product on your wrist then Ginault are great. Steinhart and brands like Squale look good to people looking at them but you can totally feel the difference in quality to the Ginault on your wrist when you wear them. So my advice? Spend the extra and get the Ginault.
Dude you shouldn’t have put in that fake rolex in the comparison … They can take out your video and channel for that (happened to channels with thousands of subs) ! Anyways, great comparison .. I like the San Martin better, hopefully they can make a V2 fixing all the small issues that the current version has. Good luck on the way to 1K subs 👍.
Well as you can hear and by its score I am not condoning buying a fake and I'm pretty sure I even said that in the video the only reason why I really put it in here is like I said I really feel like a lot of people that look at homages would and do consider buying fakes and I was trying to help discourage them from doing so hopefully it will not cause me any kind of negative repercussion thank you so much for watching the video hopefully you subscribed and help me get to that thousand
@@mr.eswatchreviews this is the Version 1 of the SN019, the V3 is called SN017 and has the NH35 (40mm and thick lugs like the Cronos) ! They are two different watches although both Sub homages.
@@Itsmemulder well sir the ad that I purchased it through on Amazon says this is a version 3 and honestly that's all I have to be able to go on this does not have an nh35a this has a pt5000 which is a 28,800 beats per hour and the San Martin only came with the pt5000 or an actual SW 200 if you would please check out my Kronos versus San Martin direct comparison I put both of them on the time grapher and you can see for yourself that it beats at 28,800 beats per second or minute or whatever it is an NH 35 is 21,600
But yes you are correct you can buy a Kronos and in a NH 35a version for like $50 or less or you can pay extra for the pt5000 which is a clone of the ETA 2824 / SW 200 and the San Martin you can get the pt5000 or an actual SW 200 and I do believe you're correct that the version one only came in nh35a and I went back and looked at the edge again the Kronos is a version 2 the San Martin is supposed to be a version 3
WOW incredible very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
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Good choice! You can find them secondary market they are sometimes a little cheaper than brand new it really depends on the condition but most of the ones in perfect or great condition sell for as much as the brand new one I would just suggest buy it brand new it will be made specifically for you and to me that's worth the extra money plus it's brand new and will last multiple life times Ginault.com
Mr. E. I got the Cronos sub but i can’t stop watching comparison videos because I have some buyers remorse regarding the case dimensions. The lugs are a bit too chunky for me. How do the Cronos case shape compare to the Rolex super case? Thank you sir!!!
The cronos has much larger lugs than the newer Rolex case the one offered by Sugess is the closest as they use super clone cases of you can afford it the Ginault Ocean Rover 2 is the best on the market it is literally Rolex quality all the way
@@mr.eswatchreviews Thank you. The ginault is a little out of my price range and I really like the lumed bezel on the cronos. how does the cronos compare to the 116610ln? Thank you for your time
@@Ott0vonBismarck well it depends did you get nh35 a or the PT 5000 as my buddy Duncan just reviewed this watch but in each of these versions the PT 5000 version is put together better all the way around is channel his channel is the time bombardier if you want to check it out but overall in comparison to the Rolex the lugs are much wider on the cronos the Sugess Seaman is almost exactly the same as the Rolex
@@mr.eswatchreviews I have seen quite literally every review vid on the cronos including Duncan's LOL. I got the pt5000 cronos with the date and fully lumed bezel. pt5000 for me runs about +6 sec fast/day which sucks. I didn't want the Sugess because of the "seaman" print and the no lumed bezel, I loved the fully lumed bezel on the cronos. I love my cronos and its great but I can't help but feel the sugess case shape is better.
@narekbekzatyan5057 it is lol I get what you're saying about those two things the Kronos that I had I used as a giveaway watch because that's the one the viewers picked but I also did not offer the Sugess lol basically I like the cronos but since I had the Sugess San Martin cronos Ginault Invicta Pagani design loreo basically damn near every homage out there the fat lugs on the Kronos was the only thing that turned me off about it and to be just keep it in perspective + 6 is still within cosc specs+ 40 is what seiko's can run up to
Yeah they're definitely not cheap but being hand-built and regulated in five positions takes that extra time and energy but the level of quality is way way higher than any of the others on that table and just in my personal opinion because the level of quality is so ridiculously close to an actual Rolex it's worth that 10% of a Rolex price tag oh and I forgot Swiss movement
Invicta is indeed the best overall value. The SW200-1 is a better watch but their NH35-A is very well regulated and can runs as good as a Chronometer grades movements, Pagani Design is a well made watch solid built and value with all the premium construction of sapphire crystal and ceramic. Their NH35A is not as well regulated so it’s runs a bit fast but it’s not bothering me. Like your channel.
I agree for the price points those are very excellent watches it just really easy to get on that slippery slope and keep trying to get just that little bit better I really appreciate you watching please subscribe so you can catch all my new videos
Have you tried the Guanqin subby? I picked one up for 47 bucks off alliexpress a few weeks ago. I wasn’t expecting much and just bought as a watch I can wear and not give a crap about. But….mannnnn…it’s a great watch; super solid, good bracelet and certainly looks damn good.
Enjoyed the review! You should buff out the sharp edges on the Cronos. My friend had a super fake submariner and it was way better than your folex. But even the best fakes the movement and water proofing needs work, but it can be done. I think the Silent Service lumed sapphire bezel and the dial indices are a better design than the real Submariner 😎! Best regards
@@underachievingwatchcollect1878 sorry buddy I didn't mean to jump the gun but yes I agree with all of your statements and double check that tracking I'll be willing to bet that thing is on its way I want to say it was right around a week between the time I got my notice and the time it actually showed up at the house
@@mr.eswatchreviews look,...I guess I pissed u off! I have a watch that smokes your ginault! Ancon sea shadow 3 ref # sea310! Go to seriouswatches on RUclips. I was willing to loan it to you for ur show, but you came at me all wrong. But I will sell it to you for 2700.00
@@williammoore4061 thanks but no thanks let me help you get this into perspective sir remember the movie indecent proposal that's basically what happened here I'll put this as bluntly as I can you could offer me a brand new off-the-shelf never worn Batman or Submariner REAL ones from Rolex and want to trade and I would not!!!! I also have no interest in somebody sending a watch that I've never heard of that is supposedly worth in excess of $3,000 in a unknown condition to where somehow I could get blamed or accused of damaging the watch in some way I'm good on that thank you I mean I do appreciate the confidence you were having in me to take care of your stuff but that's just way too risky for me. And I have absolutely no interest in purchasing it.
Honestly I don't think so as long as you're doing it like I am here and kind of an educational context I think if you were trying to sell them it's a little different matter and I'm basically just trying to demonstrate the reasons why you shouldn't waste your money on that and just buy a nice homage as most homage companies actually care about the reputation where you'll never actually find or know who manufactured the fake so obviously you get no warranties with the fake where the other ones have anywhere from 1 to 5-year warranties
@@mr.eswatchreviews Ok. That makes sense. In my opinion. The Rolexes whether fake or real really look like regular watches to me, anyway. One of your viewers mentioned that your channel could be shut down because of it ?
If you were talking about the Invictus Smurf Blue bezel with a purplish face I have one I can do an individual review of that if you would like just let me know
No sorry man I need to order one just because I'm so impressed with all the others of that brand that I have I just wish they offered it with the pt5000 the nh35a is a great movement I just like to high beat stuff
I'm not sure they will ever offer it with the pt5000 I will message them and find out if not then I will more likely just get one with the nh35a it's not like I have anything against the nh35a it is a proven reliable workhorse it is just when I can get the high beat movement for like $10 more I rather have the high beat
I am looking into it do you happen to know of a specific diver they make near the 40 mil mark I've done so much research over the last month I'm getting watches mixed up I could swear theirs was like a 42 or 44 mm
@@mr.eswatchreviews they make a 39 and a 42. The model is called “ocean “. Comes in different colors all Rolex homage. I’ve had two and they are the best watches I’ve ever owned. For the money they are a ridiculous value. Thanks
@@pdg61met thank you very much I will look into the 39mm I really appreciate it I have just looked at so many different watches trying to pick all the best ones that people want to see all the damn different sea and ocean variations I'm just getting them all mixed up
@@pdg61met well thank you again I really appreciate the subscription sincerely if you have any other suggestions please chime in anytime and let me know I don't know if you like cars and racing but I also have an automotive channel if you're interested
@@shannonhumphry2180 not trying to be a smart-ass Shannon but does zenith still make watches today I know they used to be a big company back in the 80s and 90s making everything from TVs to watches I just have not seen any of their products in a while
That is actually an excellent point sir I didn't even think about all that should have probably put all of them on the time graph too seems to me like this may call for the need of a rematch what do you think
I actually have another video where one of my viewers loaned me a steinhardt and I did a comparison the steinhardt is a nice watch and very well made but I don't even feel it's really on the level of San Martin or cronos I mean considering you can get those with sw200's also and for my personal taste the bezel was way too tight and I did not like the clasp
@@mr.eswatchreviews I like the size, got the 39 Steve McQueen one , and it’s a favourite The San Martin Pepsi is better then the Steinhart. The bezels do loosen in time.
I hear you I was just saying what he sells them for here locally but yes I completely agree it's quality level is no better than any of the other $80 watches it's actually quite less not necessarily in the materials but how is manufactured
I'm digging on the Pagani I really just like the dial color, I got black ,blue and probably getting a red orient ,trying to stay with more original dials than the invicta.
when i started I got 4 invictas then I bought just about every color scheme of the 40 mm pro diver the thing I like about pagani is the bracelet and ceramic bezel
I hear you I just looked it up I never heard of one but I just recently started collecting and this looks like a vintage piece from the 70s or 80s but they want $1,300 for it on eBay holy s*** and it's quartz
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha I like them too they are great for the price they charge but the glow in the dark lume sucks and does the push pin bracelet thats why the 8 I have are on glidelock replacement bracelet and used during the daytime
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@@CarlosAguila yeah I don't know what's wrong with some of these people today I just call it like I see it and tell it like it is and people like oh you have no filter and life's too f****** short to have a filter if you don't like me or I don't like you there ain't no sense in being all passive aggressive about it just get it out that way you ain't got to be near that person. I feel the same way about these watches I love them I like wearing them but it's a freaking watch it's made out of stainless steel not platinum and p*ssy I mean how much money do they really think that damn thing is worth I mean honestly I got six cars right now all run and have AC and are in great working order I take that back to two race cars don't have AC but anyway I didn't spend $10,000 to buy all six of them so when I'm buying cars for like $1,000 and I can drive it and then you're like yeah this thing we're going to strap on your wrist is $15,000 and it's 30 years old and I'm just looking at them like they got steaming turds hanging out their mouth it's like no I don't think so well keep an eye out my boss is going to let me borrow some of his bulova's
ocean one 39 is a good watch... had both 39 and 42. But San Martin is better watch... it has much better lume and bezel action. Ocean one 39 was stiff as shit, 42 bezel felt abit like crap really. And lume on San Martins is way better than Stainharts. Clasp on San Martin is way better and 42 Steinhart actually had some sharp edges...
@@MarkoMarkovina wow really I personally have not got to see a steinhart in person yet and the way I always hear everybody rave about them I just thought they were like Ginault level quality. At least that is some of the claims I've heard some people make I'm going to have to get one now I got to see for myself and maybe help settle this debate because I think we can all tell by now I'm going to tell it like it is 😂 and thank you for your very insightful input Marko
@@mr.eswatchreviews ĺooking forward to hear your opinion when you get one. I just could not get over that lume on a 460 usd watch. Only 3-4 layers that fade on a markers really fast. Both San Martin and Ironwatch that is also a Chinese microbrand felt much better. I also had Cronos and now I'm gonna tell you why I sold it. It was crazy accurate just like yours but look a that case on the righ side of the watch near the crown it sticks out to much and it looks like big chunk of steel. Just looks ugly to me. Scalops on the Cronos are not deep enough so theres no grip... in my opinion noyhing beats San Martin in a range from 300 even up to 1000 usd
@@MarkoMarkovina I agree as you already know from my reviews I like the san Martin just a tiny bit better I really wish it had the bracelet that the Cronos has as I like the taper in the glide lock that's my only main complaint about it the Cronos I completely agree the case is just a little too chunky as it wears on my wrist in a bad way we're really digs into my wristbone due to that extra chunk you were talking about so since I haven't seen the steinhart yet but I will agree up to now but I will pass final judgment after the Steinhart as you have me at the disadvantage of having seen both in person who knows it may turn out to be a good giveaway watch
Hi you make good videos, however, if you like to have more subscribers, maybe you can stop using bad languages such as fu*king, or sucking As*, etc. I actually really like your reviews and hope that you will increase your subscribers. Thank you.
Thank you I do appreciate you watching and I'll try and curtail the profanity however I've explained this in other videos of mine unfortunately I do it kind of unknowingly and I'm too lazy to go back and edit it all out of the video as I've told in other stories and comments I one time literally said f*** to a pastor in church on Sunday while telling a story and did not even realize it it wasn't till I was done telling the story and the group of adults that were standing there they were all snickering and laughing at me and I knew I hadn't told a funny story I then asked him what the f*** y'all laughing about and they're like well that's seven of course I was like seven what they were like 7 F****you just said the f word to the pastor seven times and never realized it and working in automotive industry around nothing but men for the last 30 years I have developed a Samuel L Jackson ish Richard pryorish kind of dialect I hope it doesn't run you off and I hope you're subscribed but I like trying to keep this as much as myself and not an act or scripted I wanted to be a genuine and real as possible and when I do my absolute best to try not to cuss I think too hard I stumble really bad and I sound like I'm lying
Honestly I don't ignore anybody but I'm pretty sure the reasons why the one is left off is apparent as I do not condone fakes I just merely put it in there to demonstrate why you shouldn't you waste your money on a
Hey Swissarex stop putting a bunch of fake ass comments in my f****** comment section I don't know who you are I've never seen your s*** ass product but f*** off
You didn’t mention the Sekio NH35A Movement in the Invicta Pro Diver. That Watch will out last every other one you showed. The bracelet sucks. But the actual watch is on point for the money. Nice presentation enjoyed it.
The closest thing that you can get to a Rolex without actually getting a Rolex is the ocean rover 2. It’s currently my favorite watch. Also I’m a welder and the OR2 is my everyday watch and it holds up great. Besides some scratches on the clasp, the bezel and sapphire crystal are still flawless.
I could not agree more! Had I known about them when I started collecting it would have been the one and only watch I purchased but since I've gone the route that I have gone I went from having absolutely no watches whatsoever to over 20 something watches in less than a year and I do agree my ocean Rover two is my absolute favorite I do believe the silent service their new watch is actually a better watch and has its own personality and look but as I was looking for that Rolex experience the ocean Rover delivers in spades as in my opinion it has all the best submariner features from all of the years all in one watch and is the actual Rolex that I really want that's not a Rolex like if I could go to Rolex and pick out what I wanted it would be exactly like the Ginault or2
You overlooked my favorite - STEINHART! Seriouslym, the best bang for the buck in the entire watch world!
I reviewed steinhart the video is on my channel I borrowed one from a viewer shortly after this video they do make a nice homage the bezel action is a little tight for my liking but no back play for the money they do offer a lot Ginault is definitely a better choice but 5 times the price and yes it's worth the extra money
I've looked at a Ginault. Yes, it's a nice watch....but certainly not worth FIVE TIMES the price of the Steinhart IMO. The bezel on my Steinie was stiff, but it loosened up in no time and was perfect. @@mr.eswatchreviews
Well I'm very glad that you are happy with your purchase but coming from somebody who's had both of these watches in their hands the Ginault wins all day and it's the little things that really make the difference there for example ginault uses extremely high quality clay for the ceramic bezel and has them Platinum sprayed in the numerals the indices are sterling silver and all set by hand then the watch is fully assembled by just two individuals then regulated in five positions over 6 weeks and when you order it it is made just for you specifically it's about as close to Rolex quality that you can get without having to spend Rolex money not to mention ginault has the glidelock system and screw links in the bracelet if I remember correctly the steinhardt only has micro adjust and a partially pressed clasp with push pins I mean please don't misunderstand I think the steinhardt is an excellent watch and as far as the five digit homages go it is definitely up there in my book
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@@mr.eswatchreviews Actually, the Steinhart has a milled clasp and screw links in the bracelets. And the sterling silver is no better than stainless steel for the indices...except it sounds more expensive and allows them to charge more. I will, however, agree that the Steinhart needs a glide-lock or some kind of on the fly adjustment on the clasp. The clasp IS it's weakest point. That and the less effective cyclops. But hey - dollar for dollar, I'll take the Steinie all day long.
Enjoyed the review and comparisons! Great looking collection. Enjoy them! Those Ginault’s are super sweet!
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Been watching your vids for sometime now. I like them. I have several watches myself and I enjoy your collection. I do think IMHO the Invicta should earn a 7.0 using your scale. They hold up great and are accurate.
I like the Steinhart Ocean One
Those are very nice I reviewed one a few months after doing this video
Being in dealerships over 60 years, your very entertaining. I wished you'd put links to those watches.
Which ones are you the most interested in bill I'll find you some links when I made this video I wasn't an affiliate for anybody yet not that even that does me any good because being AliExpress affiliate I haven't made hardly s***lol but tell me which ones you're interested in the most and I'll get you some links
All right bill look in the description I've put in links to all the watches that I would recommend buying with exception of the Invicta and Pagani I no longer recommend Pagani whatsoever and Invicta you can just go to their store or Amazon
And,,,,i love the intro music. Homer Simpson tribute. Love it.!!
personally i think its stupid to spend 10k on a Rolex when you can spend 1/10th of the cost for a decent watch. i just like the Rolex style but not the price. Ginault looks pretty good and its reasonable. i don't need the name brand. nothing wrong with wearing a homage since it is not branded.
I agree 💯 as much as I would like to have a Rolex I genuinely and honestly feel that they are highly overpriced as their price tag reflects what a entire automobile cost new and if that's not what they cost now that's what they cost you know not that long ago either way there's not as much steel in that watch as there is in a car so there's no way you can tell me that that watch is more valuable than a car
Great review.😊. I wear a G-Shock at work mostly. Going from cold outside in and out of a hot vehicle. A Movado quartz failed . I actually had the movement replaced. But was looking for something more water resistant.
I obviously have a thing for the automatic movements I guess it's the whole mechanical thing is what does it for me I do like the Casio G-Shock but believe it or not a buddy of mine works on a crab boat here in North Carolina and I gave him a pro diver quartz 40 mm and that thing is taking an ass whooping and a half and it still works
Like you I am a big fan of Ginault and they hold up against a lot of premium brands in terms of finishing. If you want the submariner homage look with something that actually feels like a quality product on your wrist then Ginault are great. Steinhart and brands like Squale look good to people looking at them but you can totally feel the difference in quality to the Ginault on your wrist when you wear them. So my advice? Spend the extra and get the Ginault.
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Dude you shouldn’t have put in that fake rolex in the comparison … They can take out your video and channel for that (happened to channels with thousands of subs) ! Anyways, great comparison .. I like the San Martin better, hopefully they can make a V2 fixing all the small issues that the current version has. Good luck on the way to 1K subs 👍.
Well as you can hear and by its score I am not condoning buying a fake and I'm pretty sure I even said that in the video the only reason why I really put it in here is like I said I really feel like a lot of people that look at homages would and do consider buying fakes and I was trying to help discourage them from doing so hopefully it will not cause me any kind of negative repercussion thank you so much for watching the video hopefully you subscribed and help me get to that thousand
And actually that is the version 3 San Martin
@@mr.eswatchreviews this is the Version 1 of the SN019, the V3 is called SN017 and has the NH35 (40mm and thick lugs like the Cronos) ! They are two different watches although both Sub homages.
@@Itsmemulder well sir the ad that I purchased it through on Amazon says this is a version 3 and honestly that's all I have to be able to go on this does not have an nh35a this has a pt5000 which is a 28,800 beats per hour and the San Martin only came with the pt5000 or an actual SW 200 if you would please check out my Kronos versus San Martin direct comparison I put both of them on the time grapher and you can see for yourself that it beats at 28,800 beats per second or minute or whatever it is an NH 35 is 21,600
But yes you are correct you can buy a Kronos and in a NH 35a version for like $50 or less or you can pay extra for the pt5000 which is a clone of the ETA 2824 / SW 200 and the San Martin you can get the pt5000 or an actual SW 200 and I do believe you're correct that the version one only came in nh35a and I went back and looked at the edge again the Kronos is a version 2 the San Martin is supposed to be a version 3
WOW incredible very interesting super kool ,1st class great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
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Hell yeah man thank you very much
Nice video and thanks for the info. I better prefer to pay 50€ instead 10000€. Defenly this watches are great
Yeah they are great homages out there really makes you question WHY would anyone spend 10k on a watch
Thanks for the info. Enjoyed the vid
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would you put an Orient Ray II into this mix, or is that out of this class?
Let me look into it I've been thinking about doing an updated video on this topic
Great video. I will buy one of the Ginaults, the question is which one and where.
Good choice! You can find them secondary market they are sometimes a little cheaper than brand new it really depends on the condition but most of the ones in perfect or great condition sell for as much as the brand new one I would just suggest buy it brand new it will be made specifically for you and to me that's worth the extra money plus it's brand new and will last multiple life times Ginault.com
Was it the Silent Service you showed me yesterday?
Yes sir
Mr. E. I got the Cronos sub but i can’t stop watching comparison videos because I have some buyers remorse regarding the case dimensions. The lugs are a bit too chunky for me. How do the Cronos case shape compare to the Rolex super case? Thank you sir!!!
The cronos has much larger lugs than the newer Rolex case the one offered by Sugess is the closest as they use super clone cases of you can afford it the Ginault Ocean Rover 2 is the best on the market it is literally Rolex quality all the way
@@mr.eswatchreviews Thank you. The ginault is a little out of my price range and I really like the lumed bezel on the cronos. how does the cronos compare to the 116610ln? Thank you for your time
@@Ott0vonBismarck well it depends did you get nh35 a or the PT 5000 as my buddy Duncan just reviewed this watch but in each of these versions the PT 5000 version is put together better all the way around is channel his channel is the time bombardier if you want to check it out but overall in comparison to the Rolex the lugs are much wider on the cronos the Sugess Seaman is almost exactly the same as the Rolex
@@mr.eswatchreviews I have seen quite literally every review vid on the cronos including Duncan's LOL. I got the pt5000 cronos with the date and fully lumed bezel. pt5000 for me runs about +6 sec fast/day which sucks. I didn't want the Sugess because of the "seaman" print and the no lumed bezel, I loved the fully lumed bezel on the cronos. I love my cronos and its great but I can't help but feel the sugess case shape is better.
@narekbekzatyan5057 it is lol I get what you're saying about those two things the Kronos that I had I used as a giveaway watch because that's the one the viewers picked but I also did not offer the Sugess lol basically I like the cronos but since I had the Sugess San Martin cronos Ginault Invicta Pagani design loreo basically damn near every homage out there the fat lugs on the Kronos was the only thing that turned me off about it and to be just keep it in perspective + 6 is still within cosc specs+ 40 is what seiko's can run up to
great comparison dude - didn't know those ginaults were that spendy tho yikes!!!
Yeah they're definitely not cheap but being hand-built and regulated in five positions takes that extra time and energy but the level of quality is way way higher than any of the others on that table and just in my personal opinion because the level of quality is so ridiculously close to an actual Rolex it's worth that 10% of a Rolex price tag oh and I forgot Swiss movement
@@mr.eswatchreviews fair point - will keep an eye out on second hand market for one!! 😄😄
Invicta is indeed the best overall value. The SW200-1 is a better watch but their NH35-A is very well regulated and can runs as good as a Chronometer grades movements, Pagani Design is a well made watch solid built and value with all the premium construction of sapphire crystal and ceramic. Their NH35A is not as well regulated so it’s runs a bit fast but it’s not bothering me.
Like your channel.
I agree for the price points those are very excellent watches it just really easy to get on that slippery slope and keep trying to get just that little bit better I really appreciate you watching please subscribe so you can catch all my new videos
Have you tried the Guanqin subby? I picked one up for 47 bucks off alliexpress a few weeks ago. I wasn’t expecting much and just bought as a watch I can wear and not give a crap about. But….mannnnn…it’s a great watch; super solid, good bracelet and certainly looks damn good.
No but I will definitely look into it
I have 2 SM. I maybe tempted to pick up one more...lol
good job.... nice review,, the main thing is said.
24:55 cut to the chase
No Steinheart?
I'm working on trying to get one unfortunately steinhardt said they would not loan one to me
Enjoyed the review! You should buff out the sharp edges on the Cronos. My friend had a super fake submariner and it was way better than your folex. But even the best fakes the movement and water proofing needs work, but it can be done. I think the Silent Service lumed sapphire bezel and the dial indices are a better design than the real Submariner 😎! Best regards
Did it show up yet did you get it those statements sound like you've seen it in person
@@mr.eswatchreviews no it hasn’t been shipped yet. I was talking about the design language. I trust that the build quality will be great 👍.
@@underachievingwatchcollect1878 sorry buddy I didn't mean to jump the gun but yes I agree with all of your statements and double check that tracking I'll be willing to bet that thing is on its way I want to say it was right around a week between the time I got my notice and the time it actually showed up at the house
Do you want to sell the ginault watch???
Fuck no it's not for sale you want one to go to ginault
@@mr.eswatchreviews look,...I guess I pissed u off! I have a watch that smokes your ginault! Ancon sea shadow 3 ref # sea310! Go to seriouswatches on RUclips. I was willing to loan it to you for ur show, but you came at me all wrong. But I will sell it to you for 2700.00
@@williammoore4061 thanks but no thanks let me help you get this into perspective sir remember the movie indecent proposal that's basically what happened here I'll put this as bluntly as I can you could offer me a brand new off-the-shelf never worn Batman or Submariner REAL ones from Rolex and want to trade and I would not!!!! I also have no interest in somebody sending a watch that I've never heard of that is supposedly worth in excess of $3,000 in a unknown condition to where somehow I could get blamed or accused of damaging the watch in some way I'm good on that thank you I mean I do appreciate the confidence you were having in me to take care of your stuff but that's just way too risky for me. And I have absolutely no interest in purchasing it.
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Awesome thank you
Great review Ed. I'm partial to Invicta (now that I own one 😂)
So is it illegal to show or feature a faux lex ?
Honestly I don't think so as long as you're doing it like I am here and kind of an educational context I think if you were trying to sell them it's a little different matter and I'm basically just trying to demonstrate the reasons why you shouldn't waste your money on that and just buy a nice homage as most homage companies actually care about the reputation where you'll never actually find or know who manufactured the fake so obviously you get no warranties with the fake where the other ones have anywhere from 1 to 5-year warranties
@@mr.eswatchreviews Ok. That makes sense. In my opinion. The Rolexes whether fake or real really look like regular watches to me, anyway.
One of your viewers mentioned that your channel could be shut down because of it ?
if someone gets a wild hair or takes things out of context or just gets pissy it is possible
THAT MAKES US TWO PROUD OWNER OF AN INVICTA
Look at the Invicta Pro diver 9094ob
If you were talking about the Invictus Smurf Blue bezel with a purplish face I have one I can do an individual review of that if you would like just let me know
And funny enough that actually happened to be the watch I was wearing today
No sugess ?
No sorry man I need to order one just because I'm so impressed with all the others of that brand that I have I just wish they offered it with the pt5000 the nh35a is a great movement I just like to high beat stuff
@@mr.eswatchreviews yeah higher beat is good.. but i guess nh35 is good enough.
So you will wait for pt5k ?
I'm not sure they will ever offer it with the pt5000 I will message them and find out if not then I will more likely just get one with the nh35a it's not like I have anything against the nh35a it is a proven reliable workhorse it is just when I can get the high beat movement for like $10 more I rather have the high beat
I like the price of the Invicta
For the money hard to beat
Need a Steinhart in this collection
I am looking into it do you happen to know of a specific diver they make near the 40 mil mark I've done so much research over the last month I'm getting watches mixed up I could swear theirs was like a 42 or 44 mm
@@mr.eswatchreviews they make a 39 and a 42. The model is called “ocean “. Comes in different colors all Rolex homage. I’ve had two and they are the best watches I’ve ever owned. For the money they are a ridiculous value. Thanks
@@pdg61met thank you very much I will look into the 39mm I really appreciate it I have just looked at so many different watches trying to pick all the best ones that people want to see all the damn different sea and ocean variations I'm just getting them all mixed up
@@mr.eswatchreviews Well I just subscribed to help you get to your goal. I enjoyed the content. thanks
@@pdg61met well thank you again I really appreciate the subscription sincerely if you have any other suggestions please chime in anytime and let me know I don't know if you like cars and racing but I also have an automotive channel if you're interested
I just found out about a brand called seaguss. Probably for your next round of subbyRoyal.
I will look into it most definitely and actually I believe the movement in the loreo is one of that brand movements
Thank you for bringing this brand to my attention during the sale I picked up the Batman GMT on a jubilee and the Daytona chronograph from them
I own a zenith daytona and I have one of them and it keeps just as good time as the rolex I could not believe it.
@@shannonhumphry2180 not trying to be a smart-ass Shannon but does zenith still make watches today I know they used to be a big company back in the 80s and 90s making everything from TVs to watches I just have not seen any of their products in a while
@@mr.eswatchreviews yes they do most Swiss watches movement's are styled after them and the first automatic daytona had a zenith movement in them.
Your slipping Ed, everyone of them should be running
That is actually an excellent point sir I didn't even think about all that should have probably put all of them on the time graph too seems to me like this may call for the need of a rematch what do you think
Need a Steinhart in the mix 😊
I actually have another video where one of my viewers loaned me a steinhardt and I did a comparison the steinhardt is a nice watch and very well made but I don't even feel it's really on the level of San Martin or cronos I mean considering you can get those with sw200's also and for my personal taste the bezel was way too tight and I did not like the clasp
@@mr.eswatchreviews I like the size, got the 39 Steve McQueen one , and it’s a favourite
The San Martin Pepsi is better then the Steinhart.
The bezels do loosen in time.
@@Dondaddyh yeah the one I was looking at was still brand new I did like the 39 mm case an overall is very nice
That an 80 dollars folex by the way.
I hear you I was just saying what he sells them for here locally but yes I completely agree it's quality level is no better than any of the other $80 watches it's actually quite less not necessarily in the materials but how is manufactured
I'm digging on the Pagani I really just like the dial color, I got black ,blue and probably getting a red orient ,trying to stay with more original dials than the invicta.
when i started I got 4 invictas then I bought just about every color scheme of the 40 mm pro diver the thing I like about pagani is the bracelet and ceramic bezel
Best homage for me is the Casio MTD 1010
I hear you I just looked it up I never heard of one but I just recently started collecting and this looks like a vintage piece from the 70s or 80s but they want $1,300 for it on eBay holy s*** and it's quartz
@@mr.eswatchreviews 😆😂that’s a fax , but I like it still being quartz
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I disagree, I bought a ancon sea shadow 3 which is the best rolex deep sea homage.
Never heard of it if you're willing to loan it to the channel I'd be more than happy to review it and do a comparison of it against all the others
I like the fucking Invicta.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha I like them too they are great for the price they charge but the glow in the dark lume sucks and does the push pin bracelet thats why the 8 I have are on glidelock replacement bracelet and used during the daytime
hope your a better construction worker then a watch critic
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@@mr.eswatchreviews EPIC ,one of the best deserved responses ever.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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@@mr.eswatchreviews I just busted my gut laughing. Best reply, ever! You got yourself a new subscriber!
@@NoNonsense316 glad you liked it
You're a cool cat who has seen through the watch industry bullshit
Thank you very much sir I really appreciate that and I am glad that people are picking up on it if you would please consider subscribing as I need more viewers like yourself
@@mr.eswatchreviews Dude I did, you and I are from the same generation and we see right through all the shit. Great review.
@@CarlosAguila yeah I don't know what's wrong with some of these people today I just call it like I see it and tell it like it is and people like oh you have no filter and life's too f****** short to have a filter if you don't like me or I don't like you there ain't no sense in being all passive aggressive about it just get it out that way you ain't got to be near that person. I feel the same way about these watches I love them I like wearing them but it's a freaking watch it's made out of stainless steel not platinum and p*ssy I mean how much money do they really think that damn thing is worth I mean honestly I got six cars right now all run and have AC and are in great working order I take that back to two race cars don't have AC but anyway I didn't spend $10,000 to buy all six of them so when I'm buying cars for like $1,000 and I can drive it and then you're like yeah this thing we're going to strap on your wrist is $15,000 and it's 30 years old and I'm just looking at them like they got steaming turds hanging out their mouth it's like no I don't think so well keep an eye out my boss is going to let me borrow some of his bulova's
Get a steinhart ocean 1 quality
I believe you were the second individual that had recommended the steinhardt I'm currently looking into trying to get a 39 mm ocean
ocean one 39 is a good watch... had both 39 and 42. But San Martin is better watch... it has much better lume and bezel action. Ocean one 39 was stiff as shit, 42 bezel felt abit like crap really. And lume on San Martins is way better than Stainharts. Clasp on San Martin is way better and 42 Steinhart actually had some sharp edges...
@@MarkoMarkovina wow really I personally have not got to see a steinhart in person yet and the way I always hear everybody rave about them I just thought they were like Ginault level quality. At least that is some of the claims I've heard some people make I'm going to have to get one now I got to see for myself and maybe help settle this debate because I think we can all tell by now I'm going to tell it like it is 😂 and thank you for your very insightful input Marko
@@mr.eswatchreviews ĺooking forward to hear your opinion when you get one. I just could not get over that lume on a 460 usd watch. Only 3-4 layers that fade on a markers really fast. Both San Martin and Ironwatch that is also a Chinese microbrand felt much better. I also had Cronos and now I'm gonna tell you why I sold it. It was crazy accurate just like yours but look a that case on the righ side of the watch near the crown it sticks out to much and it looks like big chunk of steel. Just looks ugly to me. Scalops on the Cronos are not deep enough so theres no grip... in my opinion noyhing beats San Martin in a range from 300 even up to 1000 usd
@@MarkoMarkovina I agree as you already know from my reviews I like the san Martin just a tiny bit better I really wish it had the bracelet that the Cronos has as I like the taper in the glide lock that's my only main complaint about it the Cronos I completely agree the case is just a little too chunky as it wears on my wrist in a bad way we're really digs into my wristbone due to that extra chunk you were talking about so since I haven't seen the steinhart yet but I will agree up to now but I will pass final judgment after the Steinhart as you have me at the disadvantage of having seen both in person who knows it may turn out to be a good giveaway watch
Hi you make good videos, however, if you like to have more subscribers, maybe you can stop using bad languages such as fu*king, or sucking As*, etc. I actually really like your reviews and hope that you will increase your subscribers. Thank you.
Thank you I do appreciate you watching and I'll try and curtail the profanity however I've explained this in other videos of mine unfortunately I do it kind of unknowingly and I'm too lazy to go back and edit it all out of the video as I've told in other stories and comments I one time literally said f*** to a pastor in church on Sunday while telling a story and did not even realize it it wasn't till I was done telling the story and the group of adults that were standing there they were all snickering and laughing at me and I knew I hadn't told a funny story I then asked him what the f*** y'all laughing about and they're like well that's seven of course I was like seven what they were like 7 F****you just said the f word to the pastor seven times and never realized it and working in automotive industry around nothing but men for the last 30 years I have developed a Samuel L Jackson ish Richard pryorish kind of dialect I hope it doesn't run you off and I hope you're subscribed but I like trying to keep this as much as myself and not an act or scripted I wanted to be a genuine and real as possible and when I do my absolute best to try not to cuss I think too hard I stumble really bad and I sound like I'm lying
8 watches; 7 in the review list; says it all really...
Ignore this please...
Honestly I don't ignore anybody but I'm pretty sure the reasons why the one is left off is apparent as I do not condone fakes I just merely put it in there to demonstrate why you shouldn't you waste your money on a