Hey everyone, sorry about the title card mistake. I was editing both at the same time and arranged them incorrectly, didn't notice until I was out of the country. Sorry. Oh and yes, Silent Hill 2, I know. Sony didn't make it, and it'll inevitably be on Xbox. But yes, temporarily that's there.
As a Zillennial (early Gen Z, late Millennial), and watching your vids for over a decade, you were the influence in cherishing physical media while we still can.
PS5 Pro is already out yet PS4 is still getting a lot of big releases. This is even more bizarre than the time when PS2 was getting game relelases in the late 2000s - early 2010s
they are desperately trying to to hold on to that number 1 best selling console of all time spot … oh no switch is catching up! Sony: * keeps selling ps4 *
The pro would make sense if better games released for it. There isn’t even good 3rd party games being releasedThese days, much less 1st. why would I get one when I’m mostly playing off my back log and older titles that wouldn’t see any benefit from the pro.
The PS2 was a beast. I bet Sony was making decent money and producing it was probably cheap as hell. Imagine a console being produced for almost 13 years! That's just crazy.
I bet ps5 will still be getting new games well into ps6 life. I might actually not get launch ps6. I can't think of what a ps6 would do differently if ps5 still gets same games. I don't care so much about 4k graphics.
I'm 25, so a younger gamer, and it might be a slight relief for you to know that luckily, not all of us like digital media. I don't like digital gaming and I always hold out for physical releases. My friend who I've known since high school is the same way, and two of my online friends who are only a couple of years older than me are the same way, we only buy physical media and we don't like the idea of renting a license to play our games. I think there's a lot of us who stick to physical media over digital, but we are probably in the minority overall within our generation. We're all from the UK, so maybe it's just more common over here for younger people to prefer physical media? I'm unsure if the geodemography matters or not. Me and my friends that I mentioned also all collect and play older games and newer games alike.
I'm still of the mindset that the PS6 will still have physical media. Mainly because physical media is still super strong in Japan. And at the end of the day, Sony is still a japanese company. Sure Sony has shifted to be more focused on the western market, but they are still a Japanese company. I do see them doing what they are currently doing with offering the disc drive separately.
@@Norg1probably will go totally app game digital Ai smart machines by then physical media will probably be a after thought for the market by then but the real ones will remember and have our stash 😅
Yep. PC + Nintendo console. I have physical games for PS4 and PS5 that i play. PS6 having no disc drive like the PS5 Pro will only convince me to drop them.
@@JetSetTyler No, we do. We want people and Sony to know. This puts pressure on Sony to change and let's others know people are tired of subpar companies.
PS6 will not be digital only. The drive will be an add-on like on PS5 slim and Pro. Also, physical sales still make up like 80% of sales in countries like Japan, for example (which Sony is based out of). Until those numbers come down, physical isn't going anywhere.
I find myself being more and more drawn to PC for new titles this generation as the prevalence of physical media begins to fade. The main benefit of that being that the PC is an open platform, so even if we don't own the games we are buying, there exists methods to circumvent companies trying to restrict our access. Another reason is that in many ways the PC is kind of "the forever platform" in that it's arguably the most preservation friendly platform that we have. Community made emulators make it easy for me to continue to run software from the DOS/Windows 95 era on a modern system and the ability to back up and archive my collection will make the games I own live on after any potential hardware degradation
The disparity between that launch PS3 and PS5 is heartbreaking. The former having a litany of physical media compatibility right up to super CD-ROM. It was one of the greatest media hubs. Saddens me how limited I am on PS5. At the very least I can burn my music CDs and play tracks via usb on media player, however my god the interface is poor.
A friend of mine bought concord on Disc, of which when the game was about to close, he got an update which he had to update if he wanted to go on to the next screen, and once he updated he couldn't start the game.
Also left out Black Myth Wukong, Silent Hill 2, Lego Horizon, LOU2/ Horizon remasters, a few jrpgs and some smaller titles. Instead he spends 10 mins talking about PS5 Pro that just came out 1.5 months before the year is over.
@@DLastResort Adam is mentioning (at least I am pretty sure this is the case) 1st party games, not 3rd party, exactly like he did with the XBox Series video. Also, do you really count remasters of PS4 games that still work perfectly fine on PS5?
@ - he’s not because Helldivers 2 is not 1st party. Arrowhead who developed the game is not owned by Sony. They are 3rd party developers. All Sony did was just publish the game, same they did with Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade.
@Fabio-Iq7wb - he’s not because Helldivers 2 is not 1st party. Arrowhead who developed the game is not owned by Sony. They are 3rd party developers. All Sony did was just publish the game, same as what they did with Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade.
Initially I had the digital version of the ps5 because that was the only one I was able to preorder in 2020. It never crossed my mind that Sony would have a total monopoly of my game purchases. The fact that they can delist games whenever they want just underscores how important physical games are
@aegisreflector1239 I mean PS3 was very controversial when it came out. Xbox 360 was selling better and that's mental because it was Microsoft second console after the Xbox OG. Maybe red ring of death might have boosted sales numbers but even the kinect sold a shit ton so it definitely had a huge player base. Then Xbox one happened but when they started being consumer friendly then people came back but ps4 success was insane.
If you mean for the PS6, then it's possible, especially if Microsoft doesn't make a next-gen console. But the only equivalence people are really making between the PS5 Pro and PS3 is that they were both expensive consoles with no further context. The PS3 was expensive to an unrivalled extent at launch and there existed a similar alternative with substantially lower cost of entry in the Xbox 360. There is no such thing as far as the PS5 Pro goes, and the cost of entry for a standard PS5 is still within the norms of modern platforms. That also being said, the PS3 also had a healthy dose of 1st party exclusives each full year of it's life that were not shared with any other platform. Yes even in 2007 when the PS3's rep was at it's lowest, had over double the amount the PS5 in general has had in any full year so far.
When you consider how large and numerous the many 'Limited Run' type businesses that have come about since the PS4, it indicates that there is, and will always be a market for Physical video games, even if it's a limited 'pre-order' window that's sold through third party companies.
As far as I WAS concerned, I was happy to pay for games in my Steam library and buy physical games on Switch. Having been to Japan lately and walked into a shop where you can physically rent DVDs and Blu-rays, as well as visiting every Book Off / Hard Off I could find, I realised what I'd been missing the last 5 years or so was how much more satisfying it is, to go outside, go down the road to another building, via a train etc. see a game or a video on a shelf and take it to a checkout, hand over pieces of paper and metal, go back to where I came from and play the thing I'd just bought rather than look at my computer's screen and choose something that I have to either stream or download (granted you still download PS4/5 physical games) It's not just the fact you have the option to buy a used copy, you feel like you did something with your time whilst you waited to get it. You also get the satisfaction of finding something you weren't expecting to see. Even if it's arbitrary by this point, it is FAR BETTER to have something tactile to hold onto that is linked to the memory of playing a game.
Since Sony recently made that deal with Disney to distribute physical media for them, companies like Limited Run primarily focus on PlayStation over Xbox, and while the disc drive is being treated as an option, it’s at least still an option compared to if you buy an all digital Xbox Series console, there is no option for an attachable disc drive, I don’t think Sony is completely out of the loop when it comes to physical media. Especially when you consider the Japanese audience that still prefer that over digital.
Ff7 rebirth, Astro Bot and Stellar blade were my favorite games this year. Sony needs more 1st party games but exclusive wise this year wasn't too bad if you count 3rd party exclusives.
It's unbelievable that Sony is putting on the PS5 pro box the text "disc free console".. not "disc less" "disc free".. I love Sony but this is mind-blowing the word play they make to make you feel that not having a disc drive is something good, not bad! That you're not lacking anything, you're free from a burden.. F"ing hell man.
@@NiGHTS1980 Well i do love Sony stuff. My tv is a bravia 7 and it's absolutely amazing.. I love Playstation, the hardware and software is really cool. But I don't understand this language play to make it seem like not having a disc drive is a feature or something.. its ridiculous.
Politicians, people in media and people in business are experts at utilizing “soft language”. The ordinary man is blind to such things. You are very awake, alert. You have reached that level of enlightenment and can see through subtle details.
I'm kinda shocked that you and many others aren't bringing up the fact that the external disc drives for the PS5 Pro and Slim requires an internet connection on first usage. Which is forcing you to be tied to an online service regardless which the whole point of owning physical media is to avoid that nonsense. Me myself I never connect my consoles to the internet. So sticking with the regular PS5.
It does crack me up that the criteria for exclusives has to be 1st party only nowadays. Any other generation Second and 3rd party exclusives We're just as important and accepted as any game made by the actual console maker. Final fantasy rebirth, stellar blade, The last Ronin, Gran blue fantasy,, Silent hill remake , And probably 4 or 5 more I can't think of right now Just because I forgot or they're smaller titles.
I really miss when Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo competed to see who had the best exclusives on their console. because right now, each company has chosen to go in completely different directions.
@zebare726 I'm obviously biased, but when all 3 console manufacturers were selling relatively well back in the 7th generation of consoles, that was when exclusives had really peaked in quantity and quality in my opinion.
@@zebare726 cause we as an audience have given up on Microsoft and Nintendo being home consoles.we left xbox with their drm and Kinect shit,and we gave up on Nintendo during GameCube and Wii U.both times when we gave up on Nintendo,they did a new strategy
I got my PS5 a year ago on a very good sale for $399, and I've mostly used it for Helldivers 2 and PS4 physical disc backwards compatibility. I am impressed with Xbox, in how they carried over more of my digital content and do a better job covering multiple generations of previous purchases and allowing you to download and play their older generations from physical discs. I wish my PS5 did a better job with back compat similar to Xbox, where I could put in a PS1, PS2, PS3 disc and it would recognize the game and allow me to play or download a digital version. I know it could be asking a lot, but I think having that feature would go a long way with gamer's loyalty to a system. I've ended up spending way more time with Xbox because of the sheer library of my past purchases that is available tied to my digital ID. PS5 has recently started allowing you to download some of the older games you've purchased on the PS3 marketplace, but of the hundreds of games I've bought on PS3, only a few have carried over to my PS5. Not sure if PlayStation is planning on expanding their digital infrastructure carrying over past digital purchases like Xbox does, then I'd be a bit more inclined to turn on my PS5 and support PlayStation a bit more.
I agree with you whole heartedly about physical ownership, but in my situation having family, a new home, and where gaming is not really on my schedule for the foreseeable future. Digital has been extremely convenient for me due to space and organization. Yes, I'm not the owner and am aware of this but at some point I have to go with what's practical. I've started letting go of my physical collection to allow others continue what I can no longer pursue. It's how I I try to help out by selling my physical copies to those that will pursue game preservation in my place.
I LOVED Astro Bot! It was the kind of exclusive experience that we used to be excited for all the time. Now with everything having an app and being on PC...yeah, where do consoles go if that's the path they want? I'm not a PC gamer, but I suppose I could be one at this rate.
Dude, you said it yourself: Concord physical copies dont work. Preservation is dead whether you buy digital or physical. It's the side effect of disc based media. Physical copies only matter with cartridge based, oldschool media. I don't endorse or approve but it is what it is
Maybe digital media was always going to be an issue, but as alluded to in this video, Sony made a conscious decision with the PS4 not to invest in the next optical media. By then, games were too big and required multi-layered blu ray discs. Even standard blu ray was already notorious for its slow loading on the PS3, but other optical media existed with much more space and they were quicker with loading. Sony opted to ignore them, effectively making their physical media more like a CD key. They also chose to drop this news while everyone was justifiably angry at Microsoft for their anti-consumer policies with the Xbox One, so practically no one made a big stink about it. People used to give me this confused look whenever I would mention it as a negative about the 8th generation. lol
Hey Adam. Since you asked, I bought a PS5 Pro. I pre ordered it and picked it up from Best buy on day one. I'm a Gen X, hardcore game & console collector who loves physical media. And yes I did buy it with a disk drive. Lol Just like you, I hate this digital trend that we seem to inevitably be heading into. Keep up the good work. I love your channel! 🔥🔥❤️
Yes with digital content you basically rent the game and your ownership to the game can be revoked at any point of time. For example, Ubisoft pulled out The Crew Game whoever bought it digitally. I "owned" it on PC but now I don't. For Modern physical games, its basically the same thing. Most of the game content is stored in the servers and you just download it once you install the game. The physical game is just a key to make sure you have the game when playing it. If the game get shut down, the physical game becomes useless just as if you downloaded the physical game. You can't even sell it cuz the game is rendered useless since the servers are shut down. At least with PC you can mod the decommission games connect to different servers(if available). Physical games are only worth for nintendo switch games or games that were made 7th generation or earlier. Most of the data was stored in the physical product unlike these days.
Totally, I only buy physical media for the PS5 or Xbox whenever it's cheaper or it contains extras, if not, digital. For Nintendo switch I buy mostly physical.
Stop saying this most ps5 games come comepetely on the disc there’s a RUclips video about this this only applies to Xbox(which is why I’m glad there gonna be out the console space soon)
Can’t believe how fast 4 years have flown by, the PS5 was my first ever console I ever got on launch. One day I’m 25 years old and getting a brand new PS5, then the next thing I know is it’s 4 full years later I’m 29 and I’m upgrading to the PS5 Pro. Great video as always Adam. Edit: I didn’t pay $700 for my Pro I traded in a PS5 PS Portal Switch V2 Switch OLED Xbox Series S & PS4 Slim In towards one, and it’s worth it to me personally, I wanted the better specs, I also don’t need the disc drive or the vertical stand. My setup only allows me to lay mine horizontal. I like digital, but I understand that you don’t technically own it, preservation is my biggest fear I have with digital. Edit 2: I had a PS4 Pro but I got one late, ended up getting one in 2019, my old PS4 crapped out on me that year and I went to go get a Slim and they only had Pros in stock that day.
Sony are going to have to keep going on the ps5 for a good while, it feels like a lot of the more mid-casual players are just starting to get ps5's, we re in a big gaming rut so these console generations are gonna stretch on pretty extensively
I'm the guy who buys console one gen late, which is the cheapest time to get one. PS4 Pro for some reason doesn't go down in price much, maybe like $50 from its retail price? Compared to PS4 regular which is quite cheap. So I still haven't gotten one. I foresee PS5 having solid resale value as well.
I assume it's because the PS4Pro is rare, whereas the PS4 is dime a dozen. Sony stopped Pro production in 2021, and they no longer sell the Slim on their PSdirect website anymore. The person who's hunting for a PS4Pro (to replace their PS4) should purchase a PS5 slim instead.
I still don’t get why the PS5 pro exists when the majority of PS5 games are still available on PS4, this generation hasn’t been pushed and yet it needs a pro already? The real PS5 pro should have been ending PS4 support for first party games. I also love the scalpers are currently stuck with PS5 pros because it’s only the elite and rich gamers that are interested in buying it
Concord being a gigantic failure actually gives me hope for the future of gaming because it shows that people are tired of the AAA Slop video game companies have been putting out for years
I may have bashed Xbox in the last video, but Playstation hasn’t been much better as of lately. Still greatly hoping for physical media support next GEN. Fingers crossed. P.S. I still think it’s really sweet that your PS5 is the last gift that ever came from your mom IIRC. That’s touching, man.
Ironic how the PlayStation brand tried not to *Rock the Boat* yet it still hit a $400m iceberg known as _Concord_ not to mention the $700 Pro model with the disc drive and vertical stand costing extra
Very informative video as always and I enjoy listening to what you have to say Adam. I wanted to comment on this by saying, in my area i'm not just seeing a decline in physical video games but physical media in general. I'm in Australia and I went to all the big department stores near me (Target, Big W, Kmart) and none of them sell any DVDs and Blu-Ray discs anymore, definitely no music CDs either. The electronics sections of these stores has shrunk as they only sell headphones and some small hi-fi equipment like a blue tooth speaker and some stationary office stuff like SD cards and USB sticks, that's all and the game section is really small too. If I want to buy a DVD or a music CD, the only shop left in Auz is JB Hi-Fi and the CD section is really small there too yet the vinyl section is huge! I've said this before, we're heading into a digital entrapment of not owning anything and being forced to subscribe to a digital streaming/rental service if we want to keep up in the world. As for the PS5, if I had one I wouldn't know what to do with it, I can't even connect it to my CRT TV lol. In the near future I believe the only physical media that will remain will be vinyl records and books.
the thing is that even physical copies today need digital patches to fix performance/bugs and all that, so anything from xbox 360/ps3 on is dicey as a complete physical package
One thing i really don´t understand is the expectations on people from the "Pro" concept, maybe is something marketing generates, but i mean, how different exactly do you expect it to be, to still be able to call it a Ps5 and not a ps6?, the pro concept is basically the same product but with some extras sort of speaking, and that concept is what it makes it to be still a ps5.... is like if on the ps2 days, you have one you could hook to CRTs and one that also allowed you to hook it to HD TVs, basically were the same console. But yes, the marketing wants you to believe is something way different. At the end, what do the companies like about these slim and pro versions?, well "re-release opportunities", these are excuses to do new launches of the same products and make some people to double buy your product, the same thing happened with the "complete or goty" editions of some games, or even the platinum or greatest hits versions, were excuses to re-launch the promotion of a game so people that didn´t buy it get the message and those that got it buy it again, you can say the remasters and ports are also that
If they respected backwards compatibility I would have been all in. It’s disrespectful, because as you say, digital is not property. And buying a machine without physical, it is just an obsolete box once they move to another generation.
As someone who does most of his gaming on PC (through GOG when at all possible), I have to say that consoles still have quite an advantage with ease of use. I'd like to think I know what I'm doing, but I still have to do a lot of tweaks and maintenance to get things to work right (like having to slightly up my CPU voltage from stock to prevent BSODs), and that's not something most people want to mess with. And that's not to mention how bad so many ports there have been over the last few years. In short, I don't see consoles going anywhere anytime soon. We'll see what happens with OSes like SteamOS being developed specifically for gaming, but I think that's still at least another generation off from giving consoles true competition. The thing I'm really curious about with this push for all digital is what sort of regulation is going to come into play. Europe is already forcing Apple to allow alternate stores on their devices and even in the US Google got hit with judgments over the Play Store exclusivity. (Which I think is ridiculous since there isn't a single mainstream Android phone that doesn't allow sideloading. I've had alternate app stores installed on my phones for years.) Also, Astro Bot is the first game I've bought at full price in more than 5 years, and I have no regrets.
I think you have the timelines a little off here. PS4 Pro and Slim models were out only 3 years after the PS4 initially launched. So the PS5 slim and Pro coming out 4 years after the PS5 launch actually puts them on a slower timeline.
Oh and yeah I got Astro Bot day one, and next to Persona 3 Reload (haven't gotten far in Metaphor), it's my game of the year. Absolute perfection. Made me actually feel like my PS5 was more than worth it. Has a solid offline disc build too so YIPPEEE :D
Even if the next PlayStation is fully digital, I feel like there will still be a disc add-on, assuming they design the PS6 to be backwards compatible. I really don’t want an all-digital future, especially when I’ve found many physical games for less than what the digital copies were selling for. Astro Bot was a day one buy and easily the best exclusive game of the year. Metaphor was the best overall game for me. I also can see 4K Bluray living for awhile since it’s been kept alive by home theatre enthusiasts who want the highest bit rate possible for image and sound quality.
In my mind it is crazy, that people think GTA VI is actually coming in 2025. Guys, it is going to get pushed back 110%. That's R*'s marketing strategy, it always was! That's their way of building and maintaining a high level of hype...
I know people like to point to Concord like it’s this BIG example of companies pulling the rug from under us gamers. It. Was. Online. Only. Why would it even matter if you could still access it?
It has been a backwards generation. As of now PS5 is the true PS4 Pro. You can buy a PS5 and play more PS4 games if you subscribe to PS+ Extra. The games that are PS5 though can be HEAVY HITTERS. FF16, Black Myth Wukong and others (Demon’s Remake and FF7 P2 for example). NOBODY will say “I wish I didn’t get a PS5”… however it feels like walking in the dark instead of a safe investment. Because PS4 had golden final years with Spiderman, GOW 2018 and Ghost of Tsushima. We were eating gold every year. Now “gaming magic” is spontaneous. NOBODY cared about Helldivers 2 pre-release. Every showcase was full of “L, this sucks” in chat… then the game came out and was a cultural phenomenon. Or even today. Death Note got an Amongus Clone. Nobody cared about the game when it got announced. Now a good chunk of PS+ users are singing the praises of it.
The following were Playstation 5 exclusives for 2024 that I bought this year (these games are NOT on PC at this moment in time during 2024): Square Enix's Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth (it has a 92 metacritic for a reason, it's awesome), Rise of the Ronin (which has the Playstation Studios logo on it, it's pretty good), Stellar Blade (great game, I love it) and Astrobot (also a great game with a 94 metacritic). And I've also picked up several normal Playstation 5 games and PS VR2 games (almost all physical copies) that are NOT on last gen consoles like PS4... PS5 2024 multi plat current gen only games like: Dragon's Dogma 2 (very underrated), Indika (this game is freaking AWESOME. It's the weirdest game I've ever played, just pure WEIRDNESS, but it's an awesome adventure game and it's character graphics are amazing, the best facial graphics this gen), and some others and... Some PS VR2 games that are NOT on the last gen PS VR that were released during 2024 like Mixture (it's kind of like Moss, it's really good and Mixture is better now that they have cleaned up the glitches) Metro Awakening (currently digital only, but no doubt this is getting a physical in the future. It's AMAZING) and some other PS VR2 games that released during 2024. Lots of good stuff released during 2024. But could things be better? Oh yes (the disappearance of first party game support for PS VR2 during 2024 is insane. If it wasn't for the super high quality third party PS VR2 games like Metro Awakening, the PS VR2 would be a wasteland). And then there is the Concord situation.... Here's the thing with that game... I managed to get a physical copy of Concord AFTER it was announced it was being shutdown. I played the game hours before it's shutdown. Much to my surprise, it's NOT a bad game. I legit enjoyed it. I've played MUCH, MUCH worse this generation (glances over at Tennis On Court on PS VR2, which is the most unplayable piece of crap I have played in my 30 + years of gaming. Also, Rookie Boxing in the Playstation store is one of the worst of the worst, it's HORRIBLE. Also, Dragon Age: Veilguard and Dustborn have the biggest piece of crap stories I have ever witnessed in my 30 + years of gaming. I TRIED to give them a chance despite knowing some of the horrendous crap in those stories and the stories in both of those games are seriously horrendously terrible beyond belief). With that said... I actually liked Concord and thought the gameplay was fun and the story in the game's galactic guide was actually really good sci-fi (the game looks like a Guardians of the Galaxy rip-off, but it's story has a lot more things in common with DUNE mixed with some Issac Assimov robot stuff sprinkled in with some original sci-fi space travel stuff thrown in). Also, some of the characters (specifically It-Z and Haymar) have ALTERNATE costumes which actually make them look good. Sadly, you had to spend hours trying to unlock those costumes. So even playing the game AFTER it was announced it was being shut down, I found Concord enjoyable. However, it's for the best it's shutdown permanently since it has been branded with a metaphorical scarlet letter by almost everyone. No way can that game ever recover from that.
The PS4 got excited for me the Fourth year, I am hoping the next E3 Season (because E3 is no longer a thing) has something more exciting to show. The GTA6 is going to help but I feel they will need a lower price on the base PS5 too.
Normally I watch your "x number of years of y console" and it feels OK but FOUR YEARS ADAM?! Also I hope it brings you just the slightest glimmer of happiness to know that as much as the Dreamcast is "your" console for many youtube viewers, the PS5 is associated with your mum in my mind as you said it was the last console she helped you get. You're doing her proud my dude.
My best friend is a hardcore PS fanboy. He just bought a PS5 Pro & is trying to justify it to me, a PC gamer. I don't understand him, but he's giving me his old PS5, so I can't complain 😊
The ps4 and ps5 can't play CDs because its missing the infrared laser. Let me explain CD use infrared, DVDs use a red laser, and Blue Ray's use a blue laser. To make a system compatible with all three you need three lasers. Sony figured how can we cost cut this disk drive. So the removed the infrared laser making it cheaper. You can play a CD with a red laser as gen 1 dvd players did but not CD-R/RW disk.
My last playstation was PS3, from there I went back with Nintendo with the wii U, 3ds and switch. Today I mainly play on my PC I hope switch 2 gets full backwards compatibility so I can play the unplayable games I have bought for my switch.
I actually did buy a PS4 Pro, but that was only due to the fact that I did not purchase a base PS4. For as bad as it was all my friends had the xbone so we stuck together for better or worse on that one
PS4 came out in 2013, PS4 Slim and Pro in 2016, PS5 in 2020, PS5 Slim in 2023, PS5 Pro this month in 2024, if anything they're slowing down on console releases
Ironically, pirates do more for games history preservation with their ripped, DRM-free digital copies than most rights holders. Also, I firmly believe the PS6 will support discs. Recent reporting states Sony held contract bids and Intel and AMD were finalists. AMD won due to Sony placing priority on backward compatibility, which makes sense given the massive digital libraries that have built up since 2013. However, I fully expect the drive to be sold separately day one, at a premium, and it will be perpetually under-stocked.
I know you truly love consoles Adam, but it would be amazing for you to do the same things on pc. Build a pc WITH a disc drive (I still have one) use a controller, play from the couch all the things consoles do now but with better everything. The physical and digital debate I'll leave alone (I have both and there have been some instances that physical has done the same as a digital take away) but as someone that has helped many friends move to pc for good reason, there really can't be any compelling reasons to keep at it
Interesting video. Although i dont really agree with the ps5 pro being "early". Compared to the ps4 pro it is actually "late", 3years in as opposed to 4years in to the generation. Furthermore, playing games at a higher fidelity and framerates is very nice for some users (like me). As video games aim more for graphics nowadays, i like maxing them out as the game will be the same price for the ps5 and the pro. So yeah I actually bought it and love it and I use the disc drive attachment as I have a lot of physical media
I bought the ps5 at the beginning of 2023 when the shortage ended, and I’m still playing my ps4 pro bc it’s awesome and has more storage, while the ps5 was for months collecting dust…I just started using the ps5 again, the ps4 is still better
For consoles especially, physical media is necessary in terms of competition. PC has a million storefronts to choose from and key resellers. Consoles don't have that so physical games are our best option. Also you can remove drm many PC games but not all, and only once you remove it can you "own" it in the sense that you have a copy of the data you can run
Considering PlayStation has more worldwide support than the Xbox, and how many countries still either prefer physical media or rely on physical media, making an all digital console should be the last thing Sony would want to do. Unless this is what Sony of America is pushing.
So, literally nothing to say about Stellar Blade? Regardless of your opinions on the controversy surrounding that game's launch, it was still a notable PS5 launch, even if it is coming to PC later down the line.
Hey everyone, sorry about the title card mistake. I was editing both at the same time and arranged them incorrectly, didn't notice until I was out of the country. Sorry.
Oh and yes, Silent Hill 2, I know. Sony didn't make it, and it'll inevitably be on Xbox. But yes, temporarily that's there.
Not guaranteed like Final Fantasy 7 remake and 16 were not released on Xbox.
also Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade which were 2nd party exclusives but haven't been announced for other platforms yet
Don’t worry buddy it’s fine I didn’t even realise until you mentioned it 😂
I generally agree with most things you say but your reasoning for thinking the PS5 Pro was made around one game (GTA6) is seriously a stretch.
Unacceptable! 😜
As a Zillennial (early Gen Z, late Millennial), and watching your vids for over a decade, you were the influence in cherishing physical media while we still can.
PS5 Pro is already out yet PS4 is still getting a lot of big releases. This is even more bizarre than the time when PS2 was getting game relelases in the late 2000s - early 2010s
they are desperately trying to to hold on to that number 1 best selling console of all time spot … oh no switch is catching up! Sony: * keeps selling ps4 *
The pro would make sense if better games released for it. There isn’t even good 3rd party games being releasedThese days, much less 1st. why would I get one when I’m mostly playing off my back log and older titles that wouldn’t see any benefit from the pro.
The PS2 was a beast. I bet Sony was making decent money and producing it was probably cheap as hell. Imagine a console being produced for almost 13 years! That's just crazy.
@@cloudtx the difference is that the PS3 initially flopped lol. So Sony kind of had to keep the PS2 alive.
I bet ps5 will still be getting new games well into ps6 life. I might actually not get launch ps6. I can't think of what a ps6 would do differently if ps5 still gets same games. I don't care so much about 4k graphics.
I dont use a calendar anymore. I just wait for Adams yearly videos to work out the month and date.
Dude hahahaha
I'm 25, so a younger gamer, and it might be a slight relief for you to know that luckily, not all of us like digital media. I don't like digital gaming and I always hold out for physical releases. My friend who I've known since high school is the same way, and two of my online friends who are only a couple of years older than me are the same way, we only buy physical media and we don't like the idea of renting a license to play our games. I think there's a lot of us who stick to physical media over digital, but we are probably in the minority overall within our generation. We're all from the UK, so maybe it's just more common over here for younger people to prefer physical media? I'm unsure if the geodemography matters or not. Me and my friends that I mentioned also all collect and play older games and newer games alike.
I'm still of the mindset that the PS6 will still have physical media. Mainly because physical media is still super strong in Japan. And at the end of the day, Sony is still a japanese company. Sure Sony has shifted to be more focused on the western market, but they are still a Japanese company.
I do see them doing what they are currently doing with offering the disc drive separately.
Ps6 might be the last what about ps7 that might be the end 😢
@@Norg1probably will go totally app game digital Ai smart machines by then physical media will probably be a after thought for the market by then but the real ones will remember and have our stash 😅
I don't know, that may be true, but SIE is not Japanese based.
@@hitmontree3736 Doesn't matter. At least it shouldn't Sony as a whole is Japanese based.
@@adambuskirk2222 true. Don't underestimate SIE fucking that up though.
How can I be more clear. If the PS6 is all digital. I might as well go PC. No reason to have a console anymore.
Yep.
PC + Nintendo console. I have physical games for PS4 and PS5 that i play.
PS6 having no disc drive like the PS5 Pro will only convince me to drop them.
Same. If no physical then there's no difference between a console or pc at this point
Just get a pc, you don’t have to announce your decision 😂
@@JetSetTyler No, we do. We want people and Sony to know.
This puts pressure on Sony to change and let's others know people are tired of subpar companies.
Hate to say it but I agree. Will go kicking and screaming and cling to Nintendo's next system until they go the same way.
PS6 will not be digital only. The drive will be an add-on like on PS5 slim and Pro.
Also, physical sales still make up like 80% of sales in countries like Japan, for example (which Sony is based out of). Until those numbers come down, physical isn't going anywhere.
I got 100% platinum on Astro Bot & Stellar Blade. Both were a great time
I find myself being more and more drawn to PC for new titles this generation as the prevalence of physical media begins to fade. The main benefit of that being that the PC is an open platform, so even if we don't own the games we are buying, there exists methods to circumvent companies trying to restrict our access. Another reason is that in many ways the PC is kind of "the forever platform" in that it's arguably the most preservation friendly platform that we have. Community made emulators make it easy for me to continue to run software from the DOS/Windows 95 era on a modern system and the ability to back up and archive my collection will make the games I own live on after any potential hardware degradation
If you buy your games from GOG, you own your games. Would I prefer physical PC games? Yes, but you still own your GOG purchases.
you continue to provide such a good assessment of where the gaming industry is every year love your videos since i was a kid big dawg
Four years and still meh
💯
better than Four years and complete garbage like xbox
@@Michael-jr3gz Water is wet 🤓
@@Michael-jr3gz Keep cooping virgin 😂
@Michael-jr3gz haha fanboy crying... but mum he said my plastic box is useless
Grow up
The disparity between that launch PS3 and PS5 is heartbreaking. The former having a litany of physical media compatibility right up to super CD-ROM. It was one of the greatest media hubs.
Saddens me how limited I am on PS5.
At the very least I can burn my music CDs and play tracks via usb on media player, however my god the interface is poor.
@@peterbruin5154 agreed
4 years and I'm still in no rush upgrade
A friend of mine bought concord on Disc, of which when the game was about to close, he got an update which he had to update if he wanted to go on to the next screen, and once he updated he couldn't start the game.
Astrobot and Sackboy are my favorite games on the console so far !!
Good discussion, Adam. But you left out Stellar Blade which was also a fairly big PS5 exclusive release this year. Rise of the Ronin as well.
Also left out Black Myth Wukong, Silent Hill 2, Lego Horizon, LOU2/ Horizon remasters, a few jrpgs and some smaller titles. Instead he spends 10 mins talking about PS5 Pro that just came out 1.5 months before the year is over.
@ Very true.
@@DLastResort Adam is mentioning (at least I am pretty sure this is the case) 1st party games, not 3rd party, exactly like he did with the XBox Series video. Also, do you really count remasters of PS4 games that still work perfectly fine on PS5?
@ - he’s not because Helldivers 2 is not 1st party. Arrowhead who developed the game is not owned by Sony. They are 3rd party developers. All Sony did was just publish the game, same they did with Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade.
@Fabio-Iq7wb - he’s not because Helldivers 2 is not 1st party. Arrowhead who developed the game is not owned by Sony. They are 3rd party developers. All Sony did was just publish the game, same as what they did with Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade.
Initially I had the digital version of the ps5 because that was the only one I was able to preorder in 2020. It never crossed my mind that Sony would have a total monopoly of my game purchases. The fact that they can delist games whenever they want just underscores how important physical games are
I feel we are in for another PS3 situation. Gamers won't put up with bullshit.
Disagree,PS3 was a huge leap from PS2,it had significant price cuts and had a legendary library of games and exclusives
@aegisreflector1239 I mean PS3 was very controversial when it came out. Xbox 360 was selling better and that's mental because it was Microsoft second console after the Xbox OG. Maybe red ring of death might have boosted sales numbers but even the kinect sold a shit ton so it definitely had a huge player base. Then Xbox one happened but when they started being consumer friendly then people came back but ps4 success was insane.
If you mean for the PS6, then it's possible, especially if Microsoft doesn't make a next-gen console. But the only equivalence people are really making between the PS5 Pro and PS3 is that they were both expensive consoles with no further context.
The PS3 was expensive to an unrivalled extent at launch and there existed a similar alternative with substantially lower cost of entry in the Xbox 360. There is no such thing as far as the PS5 Pro goes, and the cost of entry for a standard PS5 is still within the norms of modern platforms.
That also being said, the PS3 also had a healthy dose of 1st party exclusives each full year of it's life that were not shared with any other platform. Yes even in 2007 when the PS3's rep was at it's lowest, had over double the amount the PS5 in general has had in any full year so far.
@@aegisreflector1239 Legendary? You good my dude?
Didn't Sony President Hiroki Totoki just release several statements a couple of weeks ago saying that we're only halfway through the PS5 lifecycle?
When you consider how large and numerous the many 'Limited Run' type businesses that have come about since the PS4, it indicates that there is, and will always be a market for Physical video games, even if it's a limited 'pre-order' window that's sold through third party companies.
As far as I WAS concerned, I was happy to pay for games in my Steam library and buy physical games on Switch. Having been to Japan lately and walked into a shop where you can physically rent DVDs and Blu-rays, as well as visiting every Book Off / Hard Off I could find, I realised what I'd been missing the last 5 years or so was how much more satisfying it is, to go outside, go down the road to another building, via a train etc. see a game or a video on a shelf and take it to a checkout, hand over pieces of paper and metal, go back to where I came from and play the thing I'd just bought rather than look at my computer's screen and choose something that I have to either stream or download (granted you still download PS4/5 physical games) It's not just the fact you have the option to buy a used copy, you feel like you did something with your time whilst you waited to get it. You also get the satisfaction of finding something you weren't expecting to see. Even if it's arbitrary by this point, it is FAR BETTER to have something tactile to hold onto that is linked to the memory of playing a game.
Since Sony recently made that deal with Disney to distribute physical media for them, companies like Limited Run primarily focus on PlayStation over Xbox, and while the disc drive is being treated as an option, it’s at least still an option compared to if you buy an all digital Xbox Series console, there is no option for an attachable disc drive, I don’t think Sony is completely out of the loop when it comes to physical media. Especially when you consider the Japanese audience that still prefer that over digital.
Gaming peaked in the PS2 era. 1000s of games and no bullshit.
I’d say 360 era!
Ff7 rebirth, Astro Bot and Stellar blade were my favorite games this year. Sony needs more 1st party games but exclusive wise this year wasn't too bad if you count 3rd party exclusives.
It's unbelievable that Sony is putting on the PS5 pro box the text "disc free console".. not "disc less" "disc free".. I love Sony but this is mind-blowing the word play they make to make you feel that not having a disc drive is something good, not bad! That you're not lacking anything, you're free from a burden.. F"ing hell man.
Sounds like a Sony thing. They always give the impression that something is better than it really is. And the casuals fall for it.
Lol they think that's a feature
@@NiGHTS1980 Well i do love Sony stuff. My tv is a bravia 7 and it's absolutely amazing.. I love Playstation, the hardware and software is really cool. But I don't understand this language play to make it seem like not having a disc drive is a feature or something.. its ridiculous.
@@slainemccool2875 Exactly 😂
Politicians, people in media and people in business are experts at utilizing “soft language”. The ordinary man is blind to such things. You are very awake, alert. You have reached that level of enlightenment and can see through subtle details.
I'm kinda shocked that you and many others aren't bringing up the fact that the external disc drives for the PS5 Pro and Slim requires an internet connection on first usage. Which is forcing you to be tied to an online service regardless which the whole point of owning physical media is to avoid that nonsense. Me myself I never connect my consoles to the internet. So sticking with the regular PS5.
It does crack me up that the criteria for exclusives has to be 1st party only nowadays. Any other generation Second and 3rd party exclusives We're just as important and accepted as any game made by the actual console maker. Final fantasy rebirth, stellar blade, The last Ronin, Gran blue fantasy,, Silent hill remake , And probably 4 or 5 more I can't think of right now Just because I forgot or they're smaller titles.
I really miss when Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo competed to see who had the best exclusives on their console.
because right now, each company has chosen to go in completely different directions.
@zebare726 I'm obviously biased, but when all 3 console manufacturers were selling relatively well back in the 7th generation of consoles, that was when exclusives had really peaked in quantity and quality in my opinion.
@@zebare726 cause we as an audience have given up on Microsoft and Nintendo being home consoles.we left xbox with their drm and Kinect shit,and we gave up on Nintendo during GameCube and Wii U.both times when we gave up on Nintendo,they did a new strategy
Nintendo hasn't been competing in long while. now xbox is dead. Sony has no competition and can do anything they want. its sad time in consoles.
I bought astrobot and played and finish it with my 6 year old son and it's one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had
As always great content Adam. Thank you.
I got my PS5 a year ago on a very good sale for $399, and I've mostly used it for Helldivers 2 and PS4 physical disc backwards compatibility. I am impressed with Xbox, in how they carried over more of my digital content and do a better job covering multiple generations of previous purchases and allowing you to download and play their older generations from physical discs. I wish my PS5 did a better job with back compat similar to Xbox, where I could put in a PS1, PS2, PS3 disc and it would recognize the game and allow me to play or download a digital version. I know it could be asking a lot, but I think having that feature would go a long way with gamer's loyalty to a system. I've ended up spending way more time with Xbox because of the sheer library of my past purchases that is available tied to my digital ID. PS5 has recently started allowing you to download some of the older games you've purchased on the PS3 marketplace, but of the hundreds of games I've bought on PS3, only a few have carried over to my PS5. Not sure if PlayStation is planning on expanding their digital infrastructure carrying over past digital purchases like Xbox does, then I'd be a bit more inclined to turn on my PS5 and support PlayStation a bit more.
I only play ps5 games physically, never have played a digital
I agree with you whole heartedly about physical ownership, but in my situation having family, a new home, and where gaming is not really on my schedule for the foreseeable future. Digital has been extremely convenient for me due to space and organization.
Yes, I'm not the owner and am aware of this but at some point I have to go with what's practical. I've started letting go of my physical collection to allow others continue what I can no longer pursue. It's how I I try to help out by selling my physical copies to those that will pursue game preservation in my place.
I LOVED Astro Bot! It was the kind of exclusive experience that we used to be excited for all the time. Now with everything having an app and being on PC...yeah, where do consoles go if that's the path they want? I'm not a PC gamer, but I suppose I could be one at this rate.
Dude, you said it yourself: Concord physical copies dont work. Preservation is dead whether you buy digital or physical. It's the side effect of disc based media. Physical copies only matter with cartridge based, oldschool media. I don't endorse or approve but it is what it is
Concord was an online based game that’s why the disc don’t work, any other single player game
Maybe digital media was always going to be an issue, but as alluded to in this video, Sony made a conscious decision with the PS4 not to invest in the next optical media. By then, games were too big and required multi-layered blu ray discs. Even standard blu ray was already notorious for its slow loading on the PS3, but other optical media existed with much more space and they were quicker with loading. Sony opted to ignore them, effectively making their physical media more like a CD key. They also chose to drop this news while everyone was justifiably angry at Microsoft for their anti-consumer policies with the Xbox One, so practically no one made a big stink about it. People used to give me this confused look whenever I would mention it as a negative about the 8th generation. lol
4 years and I’m still on ps4, not buying a “new gen” console until gta 6
Hey Adam. Since you asked, I bought a PS5 Pro. I pre ordered it and picked it up from Best buy on day one. I'm a Gen X, hardcore game & console collector who loves physical media. And yes I did buy it with a disk drive. Lol
Just like you, I hate this digital trend that we seem to inevitably be heading into. Keep up the good work. I love your channel! 🔥🔥❤️
Yes with digital content you basically rent the game and your ownership to the game can be revoked at any point of time. For example, Ubisoft pulled out The Crew Game whoever bought it digitally. I "owned" it on PC but now I don't.
For Modern physical games, its basically the same thing. Most of the game content is stored in the servers and you just download it once you install the game. The physical game is just a key to make sure you have the game when playing it. If the game get shut down, the physical game becomes useless just as if you downloaded the physical game. You can't even sell it cuz the game is rendered useless since the servers are shut down. At least with PC you can mod the decommission games connect to different servers(if available).
Physical games are only worth for nintendo switch games or games that were made 7th generation or earlier. Most of the data was stored in the physical product unlike these days.
Totally, I only buy physical media for the PS5 or Xbox whenever it's cheaper or it contains extras, if not, digital. For Nintendo switch I buy mostly physical.
Stop saying this most ps5 games come comepetely on the disc there’s a RUclips video about this this only applies to Xbox(which is why I’m glad there gonna be out the console space soon)
This is where PS owners state that their games don't need day one updates and Cyberpunk is perfectly playable from disc.
Limited run games is an exception to this server-dependency rule, though you make an interesting point
Can’t believe how fast 4 years have flown by, the PS5 was my first ever console I ever got on launch.
One day I’m 25 years old and getting a brand new PS5, then the next thing I know is it’s 4 full years later I’m 29 and I’m upgrading to the PS5 Pro.
Great video as always Adam.
Edit: I didn’t pay $700 for my Pro I traded in a
PS5
PS Portal
Switch V2
Switch OLED
Xbox Series S
&
PS4 Slim
In towards one, and it’s worth it to me personally, I wanted the better specs, I also don’t need the disc drive or the vertical stand.
My setup only allows me to lay mine horizontal.
I like digital, but I understand that you don’t technically own it, preservation is my biggest fear I have with digital.
Edit 2: I had a PS4 Pro but I got one late, ended up getting one in 2019, my old PS4 crapped out on me that year and I went to go get a Slim and they only had Pros in stock that day.
Sony are going to have to keep going on the ps5 for a good while, it feels like a lot of the more mid-casual players are just starting to get ps5's, we re in a big gaming rut so these console generations are gonna stretch on pretty extensively
I'm the guy who buys console one gen late, which is the cheapest time to get one. PS4 Pro for some reason doesn't go down in price much, maybe like $50 from its retail price? Compared to PS4 regular which is quite cheap. So I still haven't gotten one. I foresee PS5 having solid resale value as well.
I assume it's because the PS4Pro is rare, whereas the PS4 is dime a dozen. Sony stopped Pro production in 2021, and they no longer sell the Slim on their PSdirect website anymore. The person who's hunting for a PS4Pro (to replace their PS4) should purchase a PS5 slim instead.
Thanks for the video. You bring up a lot of good points.
I still don’t get why the PS5 pro exists when the majority of PS5 games are still available on PS4, this generation hasn’t been pushed and yet it needs a pro already? The real PS5 pro should have been ending PS4 support for first party games. I also love the scalpers are currently stuck with PS5 pros because it’s only the elite and rich gamers that are interested in buying it
Astro Bot is excellent! If PlayStation 6 is digital only I am done!
So... Nintendos only? Because all the other options are going digital. PC has been digital only since steam took off
@@AT-5000_Autodialer Pretty much though maybe DRM free games on PC!
Concord being a gigantic failure actually gives me hope for the future of gaming because it shows that people are tired of the AAA Slop video game companies have been putting out for years
I may have bashed Xbox in the last video, but Playstation hasn’t been much better as of lately. Still greatly hoping for physical media support next GEN. Fingers crossed.
P.S. I still think it’s really sweet that your PS5 is the last gift that ever came from your mom IIRC. That’s touching, man.
Ironic how the PlayStation brand tried not to *Rock the Boat* yet it still hit a $400m iceberg known as _Concord_ not to mention the $700 Pro model with the disc drive and vertical stand costing extra
Very informative video as always and I enjoy listening to what you have to say Adam.
I wanted to comment on this by saying, in my area i'm not just seeing a decline in physical video games but physical media in general. I'm in Australia and I went to all the big department stores near me (Target, Big W, Kmart) and none of them sell any DVDs and Blu-Ray discs anymore, definitely no music CDs either. The electronics sections of these stores has shrunk as they only sell headphones and some small hi-fi equipment like a blue tooth speaker and some stationary office stuff like SD cards and USB sticks, that's all and the game section is really small too. If I want to buy a DVD or a music CD, the only shop left in Auz is JB Hi-Fi and the CD section is really small there too yet the vinyl section is huge!
I've said this before, we're heading into a digital entrapment of not owning anything and being forced to subscribe to a digital streaming/rental service if we want to keep up in the world. As for the PS5, if I had one I wouldn't know what to do with it, I can't even connect it to my CRT TV lol.
In the near future I believe the only physical media that will remain will be vinyl records and books.
I'm actually glad that they were hard to come by for years after release and never got one. Got a gaming PC instead.
the thing is that even physical copies today need digital patches to fix performance/bugs and all that, so anything from xbox 360/ps3 on is dicey as a complete physical package
One thing i really don´t understand is the expectations on people from the "Pro" concept, maybe is something marketing generates, but i mean, how different exactly do you expect it to be, to still be able to call it a Ps5 and not a ps6?, the pro concept is basically the same product but with some extras sort of speaking, and that concept is what it makes it to be still a ps5.... is like if on the ps2 days, you have one you could hook to CRTs and one that also allowed you to hook it to HD TVs, basically were the same console. But yes, the marketing wants you to believe is something way different. At the end, what do the companies like about these slim and pro versions?, well "re-release opportunities", these are excuses to do new launches of the same products and make some people to double buy your product, the same thing happened with the "complete or goty" editions of some games, or even the platinum or greatest hits versions, were excuses to re-launch the promotion of a game so people that didn´t buy it get the message and those that got it buy it again, you can say the remasters and ports are also that
If they respected backwards compatibility I would have been all in. It’s disrespectful, because as you say, digital is not property. And buying a machine without physical, it is just an obsolete box once they move to another generation.
I bought the PS4 Pro and not the first model of the PS4, looking back it was too damn expensive in my country but I bought it anyway.
I saw a PS5 pro and a disk drive in my local Walmart and seeing both separate from each other just doesn't make sense.
As someone who does most of his gaming on PC (through GOG when at all possible), I have to say that consoles still have quite an advantage with ease of use. I'd like to think I know what I'm doing, but I still have to do a lot of tweaks and maintenance to get things to work right (like having to slightly up my CPU voltage from stock to prevent BSODs), and that's not something most people want to mess with. And that's not to mention how bad so many ports there have been over the last few years. In short, I don't see consoles going anywhere anytime soon. We'll see what happens with OSes like SteamOS being developed specifically for gaming, but I think that's still at least another generation off from giving consoles true competition.
The thing I'm really curious about with this push for all digital is what sort of regulation is going to come into play. Europe is already forcing Apple to allow alternate stores on their devices and even in the US Google got hit with judgments over the Play Store exclusivity. (Which I think is ridiculous since there isn't a single mainstream Android phone that doesn't allow sideloading. I've had alternate app stores installed on my phones for years.)
Also, Astro Bot is the first game I've bought at full price in more than 5 years, and I have no regrets.
I think you have the timelines a little off here. PS4 Pro and Slim models were out only 3 years after the PS4 initially launched. So the PS5 slim and Pro coming out 4 years after the PS5 launch actually puts them on a slower timeline.
Oh and yeah I got Astro Bot day one, and next to Persona 3 Reload (haven't gotten far in Metaphor), it's my game of the year. Absolute perfection. Made me actually feel like my PS5 was more than worth it. Has a solid offline disc build too so YIPPEEE :D
Even if the next PlayStation is fully digital, I feel like there will still be a disc add-on, assuming they design the PS6 to be backwards compatible. I really don’t want an all-digital future, especially when I’ve found many physical games for less than what the digital copies were selling for.
Astro Bot was a day one buy and easily the best exclusive game of the year. Metaphor was the best overall game for me.
I also can see 4K Bluray living for awhile since it’s been kept alive by home theatre enthusiasts who want the highest bit rate possible for image and sound quality.
In my mind it is crazy, that people think GTA VI is actually coming in 2025.
Guys, it is going to get pushed back 110%. That's R*'s marketing strategy, it always was!
That's their way of building and maintaining a high level of hype...
I love your content, but where did you get the info where they built the PS5 Pro with GTA 6 in mind?
That's been a story out there for well over a year.
@AdamKoralik I keep hearing it but I was just curious if there was an article or something. Game on! Hope to see you at a convention one day.
When I reflect on this whole generation, I think of the ecstasy of grabbing both systems at launch and then 4 years of “ehhhh”.
I know people like to point to Concord like it’s this BIG example of companies pulling the rug from under us gamers.
It. Was. Online. Only. Why would it even matter if you could still access it?
It has been a backwards generation.
As of now PS5 is the true PS4 Pro. You can buy a PS5 and play more PS4 games if you subscribe to PS+ Extra.
The games that are PS5 though can be HEAVY HITTERS.
FF16, Black Myth Wukong and others (Demon’s Remake and FF7 P2 for example).
NOBODY will say “I wish I didn’t get a PS5”… however it feels like walking in the dark instead of a safe investment.
Because PS4 had golden final years with Spiderman, GOW 2018 and Ghost of Tsushima.
We were eating gold every year.
Now “gaming magic” is spontaneous.
NOBODY cared about Helldivers 2 pre-release. Every showcase was full of “L, this sucks” in chat… then the game came out and was a cultural phenomenon.
Or even today. Death Note got an Amongus Clone. Nobody cared about the game when it got announced. Now a good chunk of PS+ users are singing the praises of it.
The following were Playstation 5 exclusives for 2024 that I bought this year (these games are NOT on PC at this moment in time during 2024): Square Enix's Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth (it has a 92 metacritic for a reason, it's awesome), Rise of the Ronin (which has the Playstation Studios logo on it, it's pretty good), Stellar Blade (great game, I love it) and Astrobot (also a great game with a 94 metacritic). And I've also picked up several normal Playstation 5 games and PS VR2 games (almost all physical copies) that are NOT on last gen consoles like PS4... PS5 2024 multi plat current gen only games like:
Dragon's Dogma 2 (very underrated),
Indika (this game is freaking AWESOME. It's the weirdest game I've ever played, just pure WEIRDNESS, but it's an awesome adventure game and it's character graphics are amazing, the best facial graphics this gen), and some others
and...
Some PS VR2 games that are NOT on the last gen PS VR that were released during 2024 like Mixture (it's kind of like Moss, it's really good and Mixture is better now that they have cleaned up the glitches)
Metro Awakening (currently digital only, but no doubt this is getting a physical in the future. It's AMAZING)
and some other PS VR2 games that released during 2024.
Lots of good stuff released during 2024. But could things be better? Oh yes (the disappearance of first party game support for PS VR2 during 2024 is insane. If it wasn't for the super high quality third party PS VR2 games like Metro Awakening, the PS VR2 would be a wasteland).
And then there is the Concord situation....
Here's the thing with that game...
I managed to get a physical copy of Concord AFTER it was announced it was being shutdown.
I played the game hours before it's shutdown.
Much to my surprise, it's NOT a bad game. I legit enjoyed it. I've played MUCH, MUCH worse this generation (glances over at Tennis On Court on PS VR2, which is the most unplayable piece of crap I have played in my 30 + years of gaming. Also, Rookie Boxing in the Playstation store is one of the worst of the worst, it's HORRIBLE. Also, Dragon Age: Veilguard and Dustborn have the biggest piece of crap stories I have ever witnessed in my 30 + years of gaming. I TRIED to give them a chance despite knowing some of the horrendous crap in those stories and the stories in both of those games are seriously horrendously terrible beyond belief).
With that said...
I actually liked Concord and thought the gameplay was fun and the story in the game's galactic guide was actually really good sci-fi (the game looks like a Guardians of the Galaxy rip-off, but it's story has a lot more things in common with DUNE mixed with some Issac Assimov robot stuff sprinkled in with some original sci-fi space travel stuff thrown in). Also, some of the characters (specifically It-Z and Haymar) have ALTERNATE costumes which actually make them look good. Sadly, you had to spend hours trying to unlock those costumes. So even playing the game AFTER it was announced it was being shut down, I found Concord enjoyable. However, it's for the best it's shutdown permanently since it has been branded with a metaphorical scarlet letter by almost everyone. No way can that game ever recover from that.
The physical Vs digital situation is totally mute if they can legally remotely block that game from running on the machine.
We need people like Adam running Xbox and PlayStation. At least Nintendo hasn’t lost the plot yet
I mean . . . Pal World?
I mean . . . Pal World?
both your comment and your profile pic rule
Sad that I left consoles for personal computer...however I'd like to get a disc drive for physical games
The PS4 got excited for me the Fourth year, I am hoping the next E3 Season (because E3 is no longer a thing) has something more exciting to show. The GTA6 is going to help but I feel they will need a lower price on the base PS5 too.
Normally I watch your "x number of years of y console" and it feels OK but FOUR YEARS ADAM?! Also I hope it brings you just the slightest glimmer of happiness to know that as much as the Dreamcast is "your" console for many youtube viewers, the PS5 is associated with your mum in my mind as you said it was the last console she helped you get. You're doing her proud my dude.
My best friend is a hardcore PS fanboy. He just bought a PS5 Pro & is trying to justify it to me, a PC gamer. I don't understand him, but he's giving me his old PS5, so I can't complain 😊
The ps4 and ps5 can't play CDs because its missing the infrared laser. Let me explain CD use infrared, DVDs use a red laser, and Blue Ray's use a blue laser. To make a system compatible with all three you need three lasers. Sony figured how can we cost cut this disk drive. So the removed the infrared laser making it cheaper. You can play a CD with a red laser as gen 1 dvd players did but not CD-R/RW disk.
they don't want to pay the fees maybe
I still own my DLC from 2009.
My last playstation was PS3, from there I went back with Nintendo with the wii U, 3ds and switch. Today I mainly play on my PC I hope switch 2 gets full backwards compatibility so I can play the unplayable games I have bought for my switch.
I actually did buy a PS4 Pro, but that was only due to the fact that I did not purchase a base PS4. For as bad as it was all my friends had the xbone so we stuck together for better or worse on that one
Ps5 has been one of the best consoles I’ve used just because of Elden ring that game blew me away
PS4 came out in 2013, PS4 Slim and Pro in 2016, PS5 in 2020, PS5 Slim in 2023, PS5 Pro this month in 2024, if anything they're slowing down on console releases
The PlayStation 4 pro actually came out a year before this point in the PS5's life cycle.
As long as there is demand for physical media companies will still release them
Ps6 disk sold separately
2026 is so wild for PS6 in my opinion, I'll be in massive shock if that's true.
Good stuff, ADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!
Ironically, pirates do more for games history preservation with their ripped, DRM-free digital copies than most rights holders.
Also, I firmly believe the PS6 will support discs. Recent reporting states Sony held contract bids and Intel and AMD were finalists. AMD won due to Sony placing priority on backward compatibility, which makes sense given the massive digital libraries that have built up since 2013.
However, I fully expect the drive to be sold separately day one, at a premium, and it will be perpetually under-stocked.
This will be the longest generation in gaming history.
I bought a PS5 back in March 2023. It is still in the box unopened.
I know you truly love consoles Adam, but it would be amazing for you to do the same things on pc. Build a pc WITH a disc drive (I still have one) use a controller, play from the couch all the things consoles do now but with better everything. The physical and digital debate I'll leave alone (I have both and there have been some instances that physical has done the same as a digital take away) but as someone that has helped many friends move to pc for good reason, there really can't be any compelling reasons to keep at it
Interesting video. Although i dont really agree with the ps5 pro being "early". Compared to the ps4 pro it is actually "late", 3years in as opposed to 4years in to the generation. Furthermore, playing games at a higher fidelity and framerates is very nice for some users (like me). As video games aim more for graphics nowadays, i like maxing them out as the game will be the same price for the ps5 and the pro. So yeah I actually bought it and love it and I use the disc drive attachment as I have a lot of physical media
I didnt get astro bot. My grandma died on its release day. I havent felt like gaming since.
I'm sorry man.
I bought the ps5 at the beginning of 2023 when the shortage ended, and I’m still playing my ps4 pro bc it’s awesome and has more storage, while the ps5 was for months collecting dust…I just started using the ps5 again, the ps4 is still better
Cross gen releases still persist with nothing in the horizon.
For consoles especially, physical media is necessary in terms of competition. PC has a million storefronts to choose from and key resellers. Consoles don't have that so physical games are our best option. Also you can remove drm many PC games but not all, and only once you remove it can you "own" it in the sense that you have a copy of the data you can run
Screw Sony. This thing should be at least $100 less than it was at launch. I refuse to buy one. I have had an S for 3 years now & i love it.
If next gen consoles don’t have a disc,game stop goes out of business and where would u go to buy they consoles from
I bought Astro Bot physically. Great game. My 9 year old son finished it and platinumed it. Did not buy Concord or the P5 Pro.
Considering PlayStation has more worldwide support than the Xbox, and how many countries still either prefer physical media or rely on physical media, making an all digital console should be the last thing Sony would want to do. Unless this is what Sony of America is pushing.
Trump tariffs are going to absolutely F with prices soon.... so that $780 may not even be realistic in a little while
Are DRM-free PC games considered ownership to you?
No, but they're the least guilty by a country mile.
So, literally nothing to say about Stellar Blade? Regardless of your opinions on the controversy surrounding that game's launch, it was still a notable PS5 launch, even if it is coming to PC later down the line.
Honestly, just forgot about it.
PS5 Pro looks great on my LG C1. I have the disc drive for my physical movies and games.