Great Knot, I pulled 275' (that's almost a football field) of 250/250/3 aluminum with a 1/4" yellow poly rope. It got tight like a banjo string at times but it came out the other end! Whew, what a knot, what a pull, I did it by myself on a Texas 100 plus degree day and was moved to tears of joy when it all sunk in, thanks for the video, I have been fretin over that pull for two years, ha you helped me kick its ass!!!
Definitely doing this at work. We usually just strip back the tip of the wires about a ft back and undo the strands cut a few off and making a head off that with the rope attached and duct tape. Works fairly good when pulling with the tugger.
This isn't in place of a wire pulling head. I should've been more clear this is only when you need to pull more out of the conduit after your head is out. No knot can replace a wire pulling head. Sorry if you misunderstood
That’s cool thanks for showing , I like to use an Icicle or marlin spike hitch with some half hitched to the end of the wire for smaller lines and smaller wires,
you are so close, I started watching the video and thought you had it, but you don't. In a hard pull where your tugger is almost blowing up type pull and your knot will still dig in and damage conductors. I'm a retired electrician, I've never come across anyone else who's known this, I call it a fist knot. This knot is so easy, it starts just like you did the 4 or more looping around the conductors leaving a few feet of spare, you simply take the spare end and bring it back up the the rope just above your loops outside of the conductors and looped rope, do a couple half hitches and your done. I've done hard 500 kcmls with this. the harder you pull the more the hangmans noose function tightens w/o any part of the rope digging in. The other use of this is where you are pulling into a panel, the tugger frame only let's you get so much to where the cables will be damaged by the pulley. You take approx 10' of spare rope, tie the knot like I said and then you "chug" it up a couple feet, then push the fist knot back down the conductors and repeat till you got enough. I worked in W. Wa. in rainy conditions, this knot didn't slip. I should do a video not sure my decription communicates well.
That's it alright. But he doesn't really teach you how to put it together. Someone that doesn't really work with rope won't get it. But that's definitely the knot. Thanks for telling me.
After the 5 or so wraps when you come back across the coils you can close with a half hitch, clove hitch or something similar. One thing to keep in mind is to always keep at least some tension on that knot in the pulling direction, as the knot is made to before loose once tension is released.
No it's actually not for pulling through the conduit it's for pulling out more wire after your head comes out and you have no other way of pulling on the head anymore we use this knot to tie around the wires and pull more wire out of the conduit.
That is correct. I saw that video on youtube. it looks very similar. I'm not sure if thats where the knot came from or not but it looks similar. Its very useful.
First you ve missed the point of this knot, and 2nd conduit should NEVER, under ANY circumstances be filled to 75%! Go open a code book! Usually the max for 3+ conductors is 40%...I don't know in what hack shit world is it anywhere near 75%...
using this tomorrow, thank you for the lesson
Great Knot, I pulled 275' (that's almost a football field) of 250/250/3 aluminum with a 1/4" yellow poly rope. It got tight like a banjo string at times but it came out the other end! Whew, what a knot, what a pull, I did it by myself on a Texas 100 plus degree day and was moved to tears of joy when it all sunk in, thanks for the video, I have been fretin over that pull for two years, ha you helped me kick its ass!!!
Dammmmiiittt THANK YOU AND DANG LOOK AT THE NEW VIDEOS 4K !!!! KEEP GRINDING
Definitely doing this at work. We usually just strip back the tip of the wires about a ft back and undo the strands cut a few off and making a head off that with the rope attached and duct tape. Works fairly good when pulling with the tugger.
I would continue doing it that way to keep the head small
Yes for sure
This isn't in place of a wire pulling head. I should've been more clear this is only when you need to pull more out of the conduit after your head is out. No knot can replace a wire pulling head. Sorry if you misunderstood
@@TheArtOfConduitBending yeah I was confused too at first haha was like “how the hell is that rope gona fit into the pipe??” Lol
@@scottchasse09 Lmao.
Thank you.. I've been looking for this video to pop up
Great mechanic you are Mel, for sure.
Thank you brother. I appreciate the comment and you taking the time to watch the video.
my man! appreciate this!
Thank you.
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That’s cool thanks for showing , I like to use an Icicle or marlin spike hitch with some half hitched to the end of the wire for smaller lines and smaller wires,
you are so close, I started watching the video and thought you had it, but you don't. In a hard pull where your tugger is almost blowing up type pull and your knot will still dig in and damage conductors. I'm a retired electrician, I've never come across anyone else who's known this, I call it a fist knot. This knot is so easy, it starts just like you did the 4 or more looping around the conductors leaving a few feet of spare, you simply take the spare end and bring it back up the the rope just above your loops outside of the conductors and looped rope, do a couple half hitches and your done. I've done hard 500 kcmls with this. the harder you pull the more the hangmans noose function tightens w/o any part of the rope digging in. The other use of this is where you are pulling into a panel, the tugger frame only let's you get so much to where the cables will be damaged by the pulley. You take approx 10' of spare rope, tie the knot like I said and then you "chug" it up a couple feet, then push the fist knot back down the conductors and repeat till you got enough. I worked in W. Wa. in rainy conditions, this knot didn't slip. I should do a video not sure my decription communicates well.
Yes I know that knot. It's the first one I learned.
Watch this
ruclips.net/video/UkmtGrLfJJA/видео.html
Do a video please
Can I ask when we'll see some kellem knots and half hitch/full hitch combos?
Good stuff really like the tricks and tips awesome!!!
Yea I like doing those videos better too.
Hi Mel,
There is a video on RUclips that looks similar. He calls it the Iron Fist. I love knots.
I like that name send me the link. In nyc this knot is famous. For years we've used this knot.
ruclips.net/video/c5ca2bcXzRo/видео.html
That's it alright. But he doesn't really teach you how to put it together. Someone that doesn't really work with rope won't get it. But that's definitely the knot. Thanks for telling me.
After the 5 or so wraps when you come back across the coils you can close with a half hitch, clove hitch or something similar. One thing to keep in mind is to always keep at least some tension on that knot in the pulling direction, as the knot is made to before loose once tension is released.
Great tip!
Is that knot for cable tray or conduit pulling? I would be worried it wouldn’t fit through my conduit.
No it's actually not for pulling through the conduit it's for pulling out more wire after your head comes out and you have no other way of pulling on the head anymore we use this knot to tie around the wires and pull more wire out of the conduit.
honestly i really only wanted to do a couple of specific knots that i use all the time i'm not familiar with the kellem knot but i'll look it up.
That fill though
what if you didn;t have a bundle, you could not go through the wires
Then you'll have to do the iron fist 👊.
Watch this
ruclips.net/user/shortsYdp-Hhfh60w?feature=share
Melvin are you union?
@@rustcohle379 no I am not union
It is called "Icicle Hitch".
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Thank you broski
It's a form of the icicle hitch
That is correct. I saw that video on youtube. it looks very similar. I'm not sure if thats where the knot came from or not but it looks similar. Its very useful.
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a big knot if the conduit is bare minimum per the NEC.
Sorry i'm not understanding what you are trying to say.
Well that ain’t going to work, conductors are already at 75% fill and that knot looks bigger than the pipe.
You missed the whole point. Went right over your head buddy.
First you ve missed the point of this knot, and 2nd conduit should NEVER, under ANY circumstances be filled to 75%! Go open a code book! Usually the max for 3+ conductors is 40%...I don't know in what hack shit world is it anywhere near 75%...