UPS Workers EXPOSE Company's Abuse & Retaliation
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2022
- UPS workers reveal a culture of abuse and retaliation for workplace injuries. The company rushes employees back to work before they've healed, and works with insurer Liberty Mutual to dispute workers' injuries and intimidate their families. One worker was permanently disabled after UPS and insurer Liberty Mutual fought to deny him medical care for years. Another was fired for misremembering his injury time by 11 minutes.
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I work for ups and this is about right, when you get hurt you are interrogated before you get sent to the doctor, they make it as though you didn't follow procedures. It's a hostile work environment
And THIS is why unions are so important. They can collectively bargain to prevent this shit from happening.
No!!!!! Teamster unions enable UPS by looking the other way. Unless its one of the unions family or friends getting mistreated.
@For yt that's why you can't get a job driving!! it takes skill, do it for a month, you'll be begging to get back on your little forklift!!! the world needs drivers, anybody can work in a warehouse and judging by you, even simple folk can😂
Quit crying 😢 and file a grievance
File a Grievance fuck’em
TEAMSTERS!!!!
I'm a driver. Trust me. They don't give a crap about us. Be VERY careful with their "worker's comp" doctors. They're bought and paid for. My buddy hurt his back pretty badly on his route and called the office and they told him to go to the worker's comp doctor on his route. So he goes down there really hurting and the doctor walks in and says "well man here's the deal... your boss said he needs you on the road and so I'm gonna give you a shot and send you back out..." My buddy hit the roof but done what he was told. Shockingly, he wound up hurting himself even worse and wound up missing months. That's just one example. I also know another driver that is looking at amputation of her foot because she hurt it so badly but then the company "doctor" told her she just needed "physical therapy" while her own doctor said "no way...that's a surgical repair..." She had to do what the worker's comp doctor said first and now she may lose her foot. UPS management is a disgrace to humanity. Just a bunch of alcoholics with failed marriages that bully their people because they have no one that respects them because they're not worthy of being respected. Period. If you're a UPS mgmt member and you're reading this you can go jump off a bridge.
@WhatTheHawk91 If you're gonna quit it's better to do it early because the money is so insane that's it actually winds up functioning as a trap. If you get used to a 6 figure lifestyle it would be hard to get not used to it but even that comes with enormous sacrifices and tons of wear and tear on your body and incredible stress on your mind. I've been at UPS for 21 years and it's rough everywhere there.
@DuckTalesWooHoo1987 Couldn't have said it better Ups in a nutshell
Funny you say that. One of our hub managers out of Swan island in Oregon did that last year I believe.
I had a 3 level disk herniation that eventually requires surgery. But the UPS doctor insisted with a week of bed rest I'd be fine, this was after I hadn't been able to stand straight up for over a month. Major pain having three discs rupture into your spinal cord, one of the best surgeons in the nation said it was the worst he'd ever seen.
We actually had a PT sup jump off a bridge a couple years back. She was such a respectful employee and never caused problems. May she rest in peace.
I currently work for UPS and this video conveys one of the many major issues with the company. I can't tell you how many people I know have been targeted unjustly for reporting injuries. UPS employees get targeted for filing grievances too. The worst I've witnessed is watching two workers being accused of being high on the clock at work but watching those same employees test negative and come back to work with a paid vacation. I cannot speak for how high up the ladder I am in management but anyone who has worked for company knows UPS likes to move MGMT around. Contrary to what people say it's the same from hub to hub. If you work here, make sure you are paid for ever second you are on the clock. This is more so an issue with part timers than it is RPCD. I cannot elaborate but somehow someway a few minutes can get shaved off here and there on PT paychecks. The worst offense of all is watching the union supposedly representing the workers but that isn't always the case. I could go on and on.
Remember that all of this is being done for a reason. UPS will without a doubt go under at some point. What I witness on a day to day basis is enough to make your skin crawl. What we do to others comes back to us. As for me I just do my job. Please take care of yourself and your family. Thank you for reading.
Seem like you are bring different issues and not talking about the video. I also work for UPS and i do agree with management being moved around and alot of the reason why that is you get to learn different aspect of the business. Doesnt matter where you work some companies do have that policy of moving people around so you are not in your comfort zone..
From what i know that UPS has a zero injury policy because they coach on safe work methods. If you are not following the safe work methods it will definitely result in an injury.
During the Injured employee questioning you can clearly tell if an employee disregard the safety or not. I have my self seen several injuries where you know that the employee was taking shortcuts to do the JOB.
In the end of the day it is not companies fault on your decisions where i am working despite how many time you talk about the same thing people still don’t listen and we have seen injuries due to unsafe behaviors.
Also if you are part of management then you should be well aware of drug and alcohol policy if two supervisors comes to the same conclusion then definitely he/ she will be tested. If the pass then it is all good..
@@nimnim309 When I was a driver, I was delivering a package to a residence. There was a trash can in the ground that was covered by leaves. My leg fell into it and the edge of the can ripped a 6" long tear in my shin. At the time of injury I didn't feel much pain nor did it bleed much but I did have them call an ambulance because the homeowner thought it looked way worse than I did. The hospital stitched it up and said to stay home the next day. The next morning I was in so much pain I could barely get out of bed even with pain meds. I went into work the following day hobbling on crutches because I was still in tremendous pain so they could see what happened. My on-car supervisor told me that I was being docked a days pay for missing work the prior day. I was expected to come in and sit in the package car and literally direct the other driver where to go. And I had a difficult time even getting out of bed that day. He didn't care, a supervisor that I once had a lot of respect for- I immediately hated him and lost all respect for him. I busted my backside for him and did a great job every day. After that episode, I did the minimum I needed to do to get the job done. Priority #1 at UPS is the box. It's treated like royalty. Priority 2-9 is the box, followed up by the employee at the bottom of the list. UPS preaches safety and good work habits (lip service) but the way they force the workload on the worker, it's not always possible. I used to watch videos of loaders stacking boxes into really nice tiers or walls. The volume of flow coming into the trailer was very slow in the video and people would laugh at the lack of reality where the volume would be coming in at a rate of 1000-1300 pieces an hour if not belt wide at times.
UPS cares only of the box. The employee is treated with lip service. The company gets away with it because of the golden handcuff rule. They pay a high wage that no other company will pay because they know the worker cannot go anywhere else for the same pay, thus the handcuffs. This includes drivers. Fortunately I was told this in my early days and decided to leave (15 years) before I started down the disability path for my knees and I started a new career and now I'm doing fine. UPS is a good company, don't get me wrong. I've worked at FedEx too and UPS is the better of the two. Neither company gives a dam about the worker even though they preach they do (lip service). UPS pays very well but in the end you get a high wage to put up with a ton of BS. It's simply a matter of how long you can take the BS or the physical abuse to your body. I'm waiting to see how long it will be before Teamsters pension goes belly up. I never trusted them either.
@@rickj1983 thank you for sharing your experience. It is on the supervisor to treat you this way. Did you reported the injury and got the doctors note. If you were released by the doctor with restrictions you are still required to work. We had few employees who were out of work for over a year due to injury one was at work and one outside of work. The one at work was paid by ups and based on his doctors note. I work for SCS and not small pack so im not sure how union works or how is the compensation is definitely my experience is alot more different then yours
@@nimnim309 You are correct. I'll go even further and not sugar coat it and say we have a lot of stupid employees working for the company regardless of position. It's unfortunate to see so many not take care of themselves and end up getting hurt. That does happen. From the other side, you do know that UPS wants employees to work in a swift manner. If an employee is not meeting the standards they set, which they have every right to do, they can be disciplined. It would be unfair to not acknowledge some employees work faster than maybe they should to meet demands. It's their choice, but keep everything in perspective.
As far as drug testing is concerned, I'm more familiar with it than I specified. It does appear to have become a way to test employees that look the part and to be rid of the company. You know what I mean I'm sure. Our world is just awful. I'm not sure how anyone could be in favor of wrongdoing such as this or any of it. Just wrong.
Go under really? I seriously doubt it. I have worked here for 21 years and it sounds like there r a lot of weak locals around.
This video hits home. I was injured working as a preloader at UPS and they were very quick to try and push me back to work despite the injury. I left the company and now walk with a permanent limp. Thanks UPS
Sorry to hear that. I just quit yesterday. This company is awful and treat people like robots.
@@abdallahj.a. Oh its horrendous probably the worst company I've ever worked for. The union needs to step up and educate every new worker that comes in on what to expect and how to make them work for you.
Thanks to ups I can now no longer run. I was in track and field but can no longer compete.
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America is a sad joke. As soon as someone needs a bit of help, they are thrown away.
No, UPS is a sad joke, and the rest of what you said.
Ups must be fined for billions and those funds go to the employees.
The utmost respect to all delivery workers! Thank you so much for everything you do.
Said no UPS manager ever
I was a UPSer for 15 years. When I was part time, one of the most senior part time workers told me to write down your hours every day and make sure your time card reflects those hours. Come to find he was spot on. UPS will reduce the mandatory (by law) break period by 30 seconds (restart the belts) which doesn't seem like much, but when you multiply that by 300 workers in the building at the average hourly rate at the time (in my day it was about $11 hr) it added up to a lot of money, especially if the hub did this day after day over the year. Imagine the savings at the current hourly rate.
I hear you same thing happened to me @ the maspeth hub.in ny . And yours truly Chris Williamson did nothing for me nor did 804….. UPS owns that local . Ups steals time from pArt time workers last I checked labor supersedes any union contract .
The part-timers PASSED the $11/hour pay rate in 1982!!!!!
I was hit in the Parwan Province Afghanistan in 2006. The bullet entered my stomach and broke my L5S1 spinal disk. I had 5 surgeries, and because I wasnt world wide qualified to deploy, the military gave me a medical discharge. The VA has the details of my injury and initially rated me at 40%. I had to fight them for 4 years to get total and permanent 100% rating. It took me 3 years to learn to walk again.
I almost died for my country, and they hate the fact that I survived and they have to honor our contract with my pension.
UPS does not give a f*** about the employees if a accident happen is your fault not theirs that's the mindset they want you to have that is a shady ass company
Honestly, just from the year and a half I spent there I probably have enough stories of being treated like crap there to write a book
Only thing worst is that 804 don’t do anything for its members I miss Ron . Hoffa jr was a sell out too
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
At UPS you are expected to give 100%, 100% of the time. If you cannot do that you are of NO USE to them. It got much worse after the Public Stock Offering. It is like driving your car as fast as you can every time you drive anywhere,...but be safe and don't get hurt.
Yep. I was a driver back when ups went public on the stock market. After that everything was about the shareholders. Many decisions were made to save money, even if it affected the customers out on the road negatively. Ups would tell you to not spend any time with customers, then say the drivers were the first line of customer service to gain business. It was crazy.
More like 110%
Management: "Well if you were using the methods, its an impossibility that you'd get hurt!"
Also Management: "Now, I want you to run this 250 stop route that Orion says can be beat in 3 and a half hours"
Don't forget your lunch is included in that time
Orion is a joke! 🤣
Fuck ups
Worst job i ever had
Its up there with amazon levels of insanity
Yep! "Following the methods will ELIMINATE all injuries" I countered with REDUCE CHANCES OF to the bosses disbelief. This was just a general discussion at the time.
they are so voiceful for the 8 steps of lifting, but when you are in the warehouse, you were constantly lifting at a speed that you can’t properly lift correctly. made no sense,
I worked there about 5 years ago as a package handler and had an injury (luckily minor enough so I could get it checked out once I got insurance). It seemed clear they had a system to dissuade workers from filing an injury report. It went from appealing to company morale ('it'll ruin our safety days streak') to convincing me I had no chance to prove my claim and it would be a big waste of time and would be putting my job at risk. They won, and I decided to wait to see if the pain would go away on its own. Luckily the union rep was nice enough (understanding he had very little power) to work something out where I could do lighter work (stuff the small-package bags). This made the main supervisor of the package handlers spiteful toward me and he basically mutated into an emotionally abusive father type. Quitting became my main priority. They won, but I'm glad it pushed me to the point of leaving that hellhole.
@WhatTheHawk91 I wasn't aware of anyone else being hurt there. I was only there for a few months, and the environment there was especially toxic in terms of how pressure from upper management was handled. I think much of it comes down to the personalities of the supervisors. There were no issues with the ones directly above (the ones that watch you from their perch) but the ones above them. I doubt they would've favored or had sympathy for anyone. They caused a lot of tension and must've thought insulting those below them was a good method of inspiring productivity. So I would imagine each facility and shift is different. I knew someone who worked the morning shift there (I worked night) and he said he had nice supervisors all around.
Logistics without a union is Immoral. Clearly enough proof in the usa atm.
I'm so sorry for what you suffered. I totally understand. They play on people's ignorance of the law and other things.
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
It is sad that UPS treats its employees this way. From my time working as a Workers Comp Paralegal, I found out that this is typical of employers to downgrade the severity of the injury to try to get the employee back to work as soon as possible whether they are well or not.
@ Crystal Evans Yes. You are exactly right.
You’re exactly right I’m autistic and the UPS I work at the supervisors treat me like shit and think I’m not capable of doing a good job the others and not smart to understand everything and process everything
Coca-Cola does the same too. I really hope they get exposed soon
Worked there for about 3 hours. Worst job ever.
Been there for 8 years and honestly you gotta stand up for yourself, if you’re hurt and can’t continue work you tell them to take you to the doctor now or you’ll go yourself and sue.
It shouldnt be like that tho
Finally someone with balls!!!! Crazy how people just except this shit. UPS is gonna do this to the wrong person and someone’s gonna get shot….. the “higher ups “ aren’t bulletproof they better stop playing with peoples lives!
Had the old fashioned jump seat collapse on me when I was being shown a route that I needed to cover, you know, the old jump seats that folded down and were notorious for collapsing, only to be changed to the current ones when the supervisor fell out the door and got run over. Anyway, it jammed my tailbone so bad I got sick to my stomach. I wanted to go home but the supervisor said he didn't have anybody to come out and get me. Being young and newer on the job I didn't want to make waves so I listened to the supervisor and layed on the back shelf while he continued to drive around and deliver for another two hours. It was a Friday so there was "no need for an accident report, just see how you feel on Monday". I felt better on Monday, but a couple years later the back surgery I had was "likely due to a trauma in the past". Of course the supervisor couldn't remember the incident.
Those urgent care facilities are definitely in Cahoots . I injured my shoulder and could barely move my arm above my neck. They allowed me to be on light duty but after a month they insisted I see the urgent care doctor to determine if I go back to full duty of full not working workers comp. I’m thinking yeah no way he’s sending me back to full duty the way I feel. I was wrong, full duty with no restrictions. They don’t care!!!
The bottom line is workers unions only negotiate wages. Ups has an union and still there trucks have no air conditioning
I went through pretty much the same ordeal last year. I was a delivery driver, hurt my back removing a 90 lb. wooden crated package off the back of my truck. My manager scolded me for attempting to lift it by myself and sent me to Concentra who said I was fine and dandy to go back to work the next day. I had a persistent pain in my mid back that would not go away. I went on workers comp and was scrutinized and usually refused by Liberty Mutual to go through with any of my doctor's recommendations. They ignored my complaint of a mid back injury and only authorized a lower back MRI. I did physical therapy and work conditioning which only made it worse. After 9 months of being in pain daily and getting nowhere, Liberty Mutual sent me to one of their doctors who said I was somehow fine to go back to work. I was dumbfounded. I fought it and eventually UPS said in order to get an injury settlement, that I would need to resign and never reapply. It was a heartbreaking end to my career at UPS. I was absolutely blindsided by the outcome.
ups, concentra and liberty mutual: another group of terrible companies to warn friends and family about.
I was the first driver in our center to get covid almost 2 years ago. So a couple of months ago I got omicron and tons of drivers in our center were out with it. Like 34 or so in a two week period. So then they told us to file again for the 2 weeks of covid pay and lo and behold all of us that got covid the second time had our pay denied and they said it was just a "one time thing". These people are scum on a level that's almost incomprehensible.
Add Staples to that list
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
This is painfully accurate.
If this is happening too so many people shouldn't there be a class action law suit? I think that would be a step in the right direction. I am also a victim of UPS and would want to share my story
I am literally in this exact situation right now. No lies, no joke.
Concentra is where doctors work that have nowhere else to go. They are literally the bottom of the barrel type doctors, ethically. They tried to hurry me back to work when I was still in pain and I told them if I go back now and I get injured will sue you. They extended my rehab.
i just went through this last night.. blew up on my supervisor.. can’t take it anymore.. my neck has been in agonizing pain for weeks i can’t turn my head to the right or even look up to the ceiling & we were getting absolutely SWAMPED last night & dude takes the guy in the trailer helping me.. & has him start walking around packages? like bro we’re still getting all this flow & you’re trying to give him something easy to do????? & his answer was “well you’ve been going slow” oh i blew up.. i have seen 5-6 people quit in the last 6 months on the very belt i load on everyday.. ive been there almost two years in July.. bust my ass every single day. i’m not looking for praise from them but they don’t acknowledge the hard work.. they’ll just say something when you start doing something they don’t like. i am 25 & i am NOT risking my body’s health long term for a part time job. sorry. they don’t appreciate hard workers at all. they just use, use, use until you can’t take it anymore. terrible company. unless your grandpa / dad / uncle has worked there for 30+ years don’t even bother you’ll never move up lol. it’s all about kissing ass & connections. they take advantage of new drivers. it’s all a dysfunctional company from the top down.
I can tell you from experience that working through a neck injury like that can cause lifelong pain and disability. Time is of the essence. Go get that looked at by an independent doctor!
Im a current employee I got hit by a car while walking back to the truck when I arrived at cocentra the doctor looked at my knee and said it looks fine to him my leg swelled up the next day my boss at the time tried to get me to make deliveries two days later
Every one of these stories is my story too! UPS made every day of my life on and off the job a living HELL after I got injured! I finally took disability retirement for which I draw a WHOPPING $240/MONTH!!! I would gladly share my story about the company that ruined my life, my HEALTH, and TWO MARRIAGES!!!!
(Did I mention the Worker's Comp attorney that took a payoff which cost me $40,000?)
Wow...what was your injury? What hub?..sorry for all you've through...🙏
@@IceESole Hi! Yeah! I took a whooooooooole lotta crap, which only intensified over the years. Do you work for OOPS? I worked a small Center in South Arkansas, our Hub was (it still is) in Little Rock.
I slipped going down some concrete steps carrying an arm load of clothing boxes, landing low back first on contrete steps, and it was in November -- DURING PEAK!!! What luck! (Not!) It was about 10 months into my FIRST year, and I was the only female driver on board. Although it was very painful, I worked the rest of that day, but I took off the next day for two weeks! I was met with resistance and suspicion (like I made it up, PUH -- leeeez). I was given one of the two heaviest (metro of course) routes in that center. I didn't take off again for several years. Because of all the running and jumping, squatting and lifting, and the gosh-awful extended hours and EXTRA NUMEROUS stops where flights of stairs had to be climbed, my knees had been hurting unbearably for A WHILE! Again I had to take off to have both knees scoped, and again I was treated suspiciously and abusively. During that time, the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) was passed into law -- for whatever it was worth. If you work for them you probably already know that they're ABOVE THE LAW!!! Anyway, things rocked on badly like that for too many more years, but the writing was on the wall. I stuck it out until I physically couldn't endure anymore. My knee were swelling up to the size of cantelopes EVERY DAY BY NOON. At that point, I took it to the house, although my actual departure dragged out a few years before I was truly free!! Do you work for them? If so where?
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
Our childhood friend is a regional manager at UPS and is getting paid extra in exchange for not supporting unions. We decided that he is no longer our friend, and we cut him out of our circle. If someone you know contributes to making working people's lives miserable, you should also reevaluate your relationship with that person.
@@liesel16 mind boggling
There's no such extra pay program that exists at UPS, either your 'friend' was lying or you are.
@@tylermcneese8388 Of course, they "don't" have extra pay program. Why would they openly advertise it? Interesting that you got a like immediatly after you post them. Did you like your own comment? :) If so, maybe you should think before you speak instead of liking your own comment for fake Internet validation and RUclips likes? :)
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458 Conspiracy theory it is then. There's plenty of legitimate issues to address without inventing things to show internet strangers how much you support the cause.
@@tylermcneese8388 I know you should. :) You should stop inventing conspiracy theories about internet strangers and do something useful with yourself. There are plenty of legitimate issues to address without inventing things about internet strangers instead of liking one's own comments for fake Internet validation and RUclips likes. :)
My 20 yo soccer player nephew worked for UPS at the holidays one year and the physical part almost killed him, not to mention amount of work. He was a hard worker but said never again.
I was treated worse than a dog by my supervisors at UPS
This should be covered by big media
UPS cares about the shareholders not the customers or workers in my opinion.
'At the end of the day if someone gets hurt, they'll replace them. There's someone else to take their spot the next day' - Demetrios Gonis, UPS Package Car Driver
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
I got hurt my 1st week at UPS and I was told that if I went through with making an official injury complaint I would automatically be terminated because I was in my 1st 30 days and ANY injury is automatically "proof that I wasn't working safely" and therefore my fault. I really needed the job because the hiring and driver training process took a month and a half and I had no income during that time and had run up my credit cards on groceries and paying utility bills. I ended up not reporting that injury and now I have to wear a knee brace and pound Advil every single day
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
All major companies are like this
And many small ones also
Been working inside a Hub for 30 years as a part time package handler. When the minimal acceptable requirements called for moving 1000-1200 packages per hour, I was moving 3000-4000 an hour (with rates as high as 6600 in some circumstances) every hour of every year as an unloader or sorter. Management's own estimates were that I have handled close to 100 million packages for UPS in the facility. So no one was surprised when I recently broke down with damaged knees due to 100 million pivots with the added weight of each package in my hands. Each movement feels like a mortal and pestle at work inside my knee. No one was surprised that is except for their insurer, Liberty Mutual. Their stance in denying the comp claim was that I didn't complain enough about the pain over the years from the repetitive motion! I'm six years overdue for a right knee replacement while my left is currently due. Even the UPS Concentra doctor that you are first required to see thought it was a legitimate claim, only some desk-jockey adjuster at Liberty Mutual wants to get their bonus by denying enough claims for the quarter.
I'm still performing the same job that caused all the damage. Can barely walk out to my car after a shift, walk the dog, or even sleep without pain waking me up. Our healthcare is predicated on working a set minimum amount of hours per quarter or you lose the coverage. I gave them everything I had every shift and it's apparently a one way street. I will say the management team has always been sympathetic and supportive, blaming the insurance company's greed for the delays and denials. But does Liberty Mutual just do the dirty work for them?
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
Screw Concentra, I had a concussion at UPS in January 2022, UPS sent me over to Concentra and I sat in the waiting room for about 8 HOURS without any treatment! Atleast my concussion wasn’t horrible but the least they could’ve done was give me an ice pack…
I worked at FedEx. And after lifting constantly my wrist just popped. The nerve damage done to my wrist is still not normal even 5 years later.
My dad tore his shoulder muscle their tendons like snapped twizzlers, and he's been on workers comp for a while. As soon as he got in a car wreck for a completely unrelated reason (and wasn't even serious to boot), Liberty Mutual cut him off!
They even sent one of their nurses to be there to witness his exam and ask questions about it. Of course, my dad chose to record the session, but as soon as she saw my dad pull out his camera phone, she said, "You can't record this; I don't give my consent."
Of course, he didn't need it and my dad knew that, so he recorded the whole session, thankfully.
I'm considered a "part-time, preloader," meaning I load the trucks the drivers deliver from. My part-time position starts around 2-4am til 8-10am, 5 days a week. I average about 30-32 hours a week. As a part-timer, I get NO benefits until I've been there for 9 months. I was hired during "peak season" Dec 2021 and in mid-January, I was "fired and rehired" as a permanent employee... THAT'S when my 9 months started. In March I started feeling an issue in my ankle. I had Medicaid from the pandemic, so I went and got checked out. There was a big ol bone chip in my ankle joint and the orthopedic doctor said it was from going from a semi-sedentary life to 20K steps a day that did it, as well as me being 40 years old. So I reported the injury to UPS, and they made me go home until Concentra opened, and then the doctor there said it was just a sprained ankle. I said can we do an x-ray, knowing that it was going to show the actual cause of the injury (as far as I was concerned.) When the doc came back with the x-ray he said, "oh, it's an old bone chip, just take Advil every day until it stops hurting." (I had had that foot xrayed 2 years earlier and there was no bone chip there, then...) I got put on light duty (which means I can only work 3.5 hours a day) for a week, until my next Concentra appt. At that next appt I saw a different doctor and told her what was going on, she said let's try some PT. Meanwhile, my public health podiatrist said let's take out that bone chip. I stopped the PT because it was wasting my time and not helping my situation, if anything it made it worse because they were trying to make me "strengthen the muscles surrounding the bone chip," when those muscles were rubbing against it causing the pain. UPS said that since I closed the claim out (back in May because they weren't HELPING me) then they weren't liable for anything. I kept working on the injury for months until I started feeling nerve damage from the bone chip rubbing against my nerves, so I tried to get something from UPS but I wasn't there for 9 months so I couldn't get even Short Term Disability. I took 10 weeks off, using my own savings to get the bone chip removed and recover from that. The union lawyer said, 'You'll never find a judge that will side with you about this so file for unemployment.' So I did, and I got denied because I wasn't "able" to work.
There are many problems with this situation and according to this video, it's happened to hundreds of thousands of employees. This new contract we are negotiating for better address the specific issue of benefits for newbies, the number of hours they are allowed to say we work in order for them to calculate your worker's comp (they say our base pay is 3.5 hours a day so we'd get 60% of THAT, not our ACTUAL average work week's pay) and making us go to Concentra. All these things are unacceptable and I'm encouraged by Sean O'Brien's leadership so far!
Worked for a company called graphic packaging intl.. they treated us the exact same way..and forced us to work us 72-84 hours a week. It’s a shame these companies get away with this.
Almost seems like they spend more money harassing injured workers than if they actually treated them right.
I was a Preloader and got fired while still on my probation period for being a few minutes late. No warning from management or a heads-up to improve. Was done right after my shift. Total blindside. Idk what other shady things management does but after seeing this, I should have been more aware.
This is sadly a common practice by UPS, but because of the 30 day Non-Union probation... They can legally do this. It's sad.
@@atg9548 they fired me on day 46 after someone dropped a flat screen tv on me and I was injured, the union did nothing saying there’s a 72 work day requirement before you get union representation. It’s been 6 months and I just recently was able to get an MRI.
I worked 4 ups for 8 years ...I got injured they attacked me..I quit
I worked there for 44years. No major injuries. I dragged my butt the last two years but had excellent attendance.My supervisors were cool which is a positive.Whereas you had people that hardly ever showed up,only when they wanted to. You didn't get that crap 40years ago. If you did you were out of there like shit through a goose. There were mornings that I woke up sore on my shoulders and I had to take days off.I couldn't link it to anything work related. NOW I'M GONE AND OUT OF HERE!
UPS (Unrelenting Pressure Service)
My chiropractor is involved she fights to get benefits tells me about these industrial health clinics where workers get marginal treatment.
I worked at UPS for a little over 5 months, hurt my ankle pretty bad at the end of the day and my supervisor did check on me and didn’t push me too hard because he was a good guy and cared about his people first but the guy above him wasn’t necessarily like that and that ankle injury lingered for months even after I quit, also my mental health was at an all time low and so when I quit I’m pretty sure I had ptsd from there and the thought of work scared me. I hated that environment. Didn’t matter how hard you worked because they didn’t Care and you were basically just a body for them and you were replaceable. These types of jobs just have terrible morals and work areas.
@ Eric Brintz Yup!!! You got it!
Your ran that sentence on like a driver trying to get done for their kids birthday party on a Friday night.
I’ve worked at this place (UPS) for 22 years. I honestly get hurt EVERY day in one way or another, and I’ve had back issues and arthritis from all the repetitive motions for so long… 😢I agree 100% with this video. I got a concussion from a 76 lbbox falling on my head several years ago and I was told it was my fault because I "did not expect the unexpected". The workers comp doctor did not want to do a CTscan and I was suffering from motor skill issues and vision problems (no telling how bad it damaged me) and their neurologist just wanted to give me Tramadol and send me back to work. My lawyer told me it was best for me to just go back to work and try to get some light duty until I recovered because he couldn’t fight their large team of attorneys, telling me that UPS would only settle me out for $8000 (to not come back). So I didn’t take that bad offer. I returned to work to find they had fired me. I had to get Teamsters to get me my job back and make me whole with my seniority and benefits… Then, earlier this year, I had to work their with 2 broken fingers… It is truly a mess how they treat us there.
Every company does this kind of crap to their employees. You have to learn to be aware at all times. Realize you are nothing but a tool.If you break they can toss you and another. I work as a nurse in home care. I went through the same thing. 20 years of dedication means nothing. The minute you get hurt on the job you are treated like a criminal.
this is what strong unions are supposed to do for us as workers: give us real representation against these giants corps. Sadly, a lot of these unions have grown dormant by being managed by people who are in cahoots with the employers. But now, things are changing! More young people are looking to unions to really have their (and our) back and we gotta get out there and talk with the other rank and file about the goings on within the company and the new contract negotiations. Hopefully we get a strong contract that can make us proud to be teamster members
This is all 100% true. I am a current 40 yr UPS employee. I have personally experienced several of these situations. UPS is pathetic.
We are not employees to the eyes of the company. (Even though our browns and paychecks tells us) we are bargaining units caught in the middle between the union and company.
I worked with a fellow supervisor who had a double inguinal hernia surgery. They told him to use his vacation time and be back in 2 weeks. I worked at the 15 East Oregon Ave. 19148 building in Philadelphia from 1988-2000. They were horrible to him. I used their loan program, went to school and got the hell outta there!
Another UPS strike needs to happen.
Now it did
@@JMoney-un2oo It's authorized, but will only happen if UPS doesn't meet agreeable terms with Teamsters for the new contract. Current contract expires on July 31st. So they've got just over one month to come to an agreement.
Worked from August 2006 to march 2011 and was terminated. I got injured and they made my life miserable. I never truly recovered from this because and i probably would have still been there til today.
This scares me. I am petty new to UPS. I fell off one of the trucks and shattered my wrist. I was told to go back to work the next morning with a letter stating "fractured" from the doctor they sent me to. For almost three weeks I have been complaining to the doctor of major pain and how I no longer have movements in my fingers. They told me it is normal and just take Advil. I finally got to see a specialist who did not look happy with my X-Rays. He stated that the bones have been shifting and I will need surgery asap to avoid permanent damage. He finally gave me something for the pain. Fighting pain for three weeks exhausted me so much. I am currently waiting on the approval for the surgery.
One of my acquaintances died driving for UPS while I worked there. Honestly felt like they didn't give a damn. They put a donation thing up for about a week. A lot of people that wanted to donate didn't even get to because UPS took it down too quick and acted like it never happened. UPS Commerce City, Colorado.
100% sure those funds were pocketed by the manager or a higher up...
And THIS IS A UNION JOB! Try fighting these battles on your own. There needs to be jail time not just fines for OSHA and Labor violations. Oh, MEDICARE FOR ALL would help too!
My BEST and funniest interaction with an injury and management was when my back muscle pulled and I was on light duty work. The was a good sized SELF PROPELLED snow blower sitting there and we had just gotten a foot of snow. I had the mechanic pull start it for me as I thought I'd be productive and figured I'd just hold in the levers and follow the machine around while clearing the walkways. No effort involved for those unfamiliar with snow blowers, just follow it and steer by squeezing the levers as it moves along. The boss came out with a 24" steel shovel weighing 15 pounds and wanted me to lift the snow by hand. I shut the snow blower off where it sat and walked inside to find other work to do. Eventually they had three of us that were injured tracking the exact same package that were not missing and nobody was looking for. One person would check each package on the page and verify it was delivered, then pass it to the next person to do the same thing, then they'd pass it to the next person to repeat the task, on packages that were not being questioned. Work created to make you wish you were healthy enough to go back to the regular job earlier than probably what was average.
xray, or mri is needed before physical therapy. Malpractice leaning here.
People only see the good side of UPS and that’s delivering but don’t know anything about the bad side . This company treat its employees like crap.
I have been hurt on a job and the employer tried to force me to treat injury differently than I felt was right. More power to the UPS workers
They have no AC for their drivers in Arizona. That is totally unacceptable!
I deal with workman's comp everyday. This doesn't surprise me.
I don't know about else where but my local Teamsters Union is corrupt bought and paid for. They don't do anything for the members. Everytime I have put in a safety grievance nothing has been done to fix it.
Ups works hard to get ppl hired.
Then you’ll have no life despite their promises to improve work/life balance. So you’ll try to cut corners in an attempt to shave a few min off your day so you might get some time with your family. Doing that gets you hurt, or in an accident. Then UPS blames you, and you’re screwed.
We were still using paper to record packages when I started at UPS. I used to say it was the greatest company to work for. Now I’d never recommend working here.
Why? Those workers make UPS a vital company so when greed overtakes a company of directors, they destroy their own business.
The temperature in the back of a UPS truck ( summer ) in Quartzsite,AZ is 170 f.
I broke my foot in several places there. Lied and said I did it at home. But the evil management that made me do that, is gone now. They either got fired, or relocated with different jobs.
It’s not the company. It’s the management and union stewards. We got good management now, now we need to replace the stewards.
It’s sad that the STD is a better option the WC.
These type of companies don't care about people.
I've not only been abused but I've fallen on the cement carpet tripping over a lose wire I didn't see, almost got electrocuted, got my finger partially sucked into the machine, fainted due to heat, almost broke my wrist, got a Herniated disk, etc....I've seen people get seriously hurt and company does nothing but tell u to drive to Urgent Care for evaluation. Then that doctor sends u back to work the next day regardless if you can move or not.
If a company is implying that you should not report your injury to workers comp or the company doctor. Get a lawyer ASAP! That’s a huge red flag. Also The company doctor Is not in favor of you. I’ve been through this working a Costco. They didn’t want me to report my injury because it well affect the companies “prevention of injury rate”. Idgf about that I’m hurt because you decided not add more full-time employees to save the “company money” causing me to over work my self. I thought you guys were a multi billion dollar company. I swear this companies are full sociopaths and psychopaths for leadership positions. Something is truly wrong with cooperate system in U.S and they do a good job of hiding it to. Which leads to more abuse within the workforce. I wish you guys the best of luck. Sad how we trust these ceo’s to take care of us. Physically, mentally, emotionally and financially and all we get is a slap in the face once we get injured during work hours.
Thank you for speaking up. Sadly I do not believe this is uncommon in many businesses. I was hurt many years ago. I was not supposed to work for two weeks. It was a permanent injury, still hurts some times. I was pressured back to work in three days. The year before I had perfect attendance.
Fed-Ex is the same way. I had Fed-Ex employees and former employees asking me what to do. I worked there part-time on loading trailers. Later on, I have people asking me what to do regarding their injuries sustained. Even after I quite, I had people coming up me asking me what to do.
I’ve had an injury years ago where the UPS safety supervisors would call my doctor and make them change my work status from "time off" to "light duty". (Even though there’s no such thing as light duty in the warehouse). They are truly in Cahoots with one another. No doctor is supposed to discuss your condition with a supervisor over the phone that way. They violate HIPPA patient confidentiality rights and everything. And then when I confronted the supervisor, I was told that they get fined over $20,000 for every reported loss time injury, and they said for That reason, they don’t need workers off work for injuries. I told him that was not my problem.
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
I was a supervisor and whenever someone got hurt or sick the first assumption in the supervisor meetings is always "they're lying"
I worked for UPS for 10 years. Year 9.5 I got hurt and fractured my knee delivering a set of 16" tires. Was determined it was caused by repetitive motion injury and no fault of my own by our hub's safety department. Without going into details over a year of workman's comp and getting horsed around it showed the true side of UPS. Ended up leaving the company in the end after it all and do miss working for the company, but it showed the true nature of the company. UPS is/was a great company to work for...unless you got hurt. Then they made your life a nightmare
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!v
This is 100 percent true. No exaggeration
Ups doesnt want you to but your union does. Thats why you are union.
It's honestly insane how accurate this was for me as well, I had a better experience reporting an injury at Walmart than UPS. I was interrogated by management with no union rep and it was hostile the entire time. Concentra also didn't perform any MRI, they just asked me a few questions and determined I was fine to continue working. I was completely upfront with them about everything and they stabbed me in the back.
Becareful at the Concentra Urgent Health Care Clinics. I was assaulted and knocked out by a MD over here in Amarillo Texas. He got away with it because the detective protected him. So look out yall. I've been violently mistreated for filing a Texas injured worker claim at my 3rd work accident.
Just had some computer training and I didn't pass the Hasmat training, but they said "does not matter, you will be working tomorrow "
So what’s the point of the union? To protect the company
Actually thats HR's job. The Unions' job is to negotiate for higher wages and benefits and improve conditions in the workplace.
I used to work on the air ramp for UPS. Saw a lot of people get injured. Most of the time when someone got hurt, management would come down and interrogate you asking you to replay the scenario to them. 99% they would find some sort of technicality in your story and say something to the effect of, while in the act of you getting hurt you violated this certain "rule" so technically it's your fault. Seen it happen A LOT.
you know after reading and experiencing these "interrogations," I'm keen to find out what happens when I DON'T answer their questions with specifics and just give them a benign explanation that can't be connected to a safety issue on my part. but their "expect the unexpected" covers that specific issue I'm assuming. God, what pieces of shit.
Liberty Mutual? I was at their mercy after a hand crush at the now defunct Vitran. They forced me to lawyer up.
This video is one hundred percent fact. Work for the company for fifteen years. I'm actually out right now because of an accident where the other driver was at fault.
I've already heard from other people at work. That management is trying to charge me with an avoidable accident. Trust me there was nothing I could do to avoid being hit by this person. It's been a miserable three weeks. I really wish I was at work making money and said of dealing with all the bullshit.
I can confirm, everyone I've seen get hurt on the job, I have seen management turn on FAST. It doesn't matter how many years you have, what kind of worker you are, as soon as you get hurt once they look at you like a liability and a "comp case waiting to happen." All while entirely refusing to maintain damaged, unsafe equipment only to blame injuries on the workers themselves. They will preach safety to you every week, but when it comes time to lift a finger or spend a dime to keep people safe, they have a million excuses why it can't be done. "Just don't get hurt" should be the UPS motto. It's all on you to keep yourself safe.
UPS stands for = (United Piece of Crap) !!! ... I've gone 7 months since my injury at UPS and just NOW (with a Lawyer) FINALLY going to a WC judge to 'hopefully' get WC money and Approve the necessary surgery by my Orthopedic Doctor. Liberty Mutual (UPS Insurance) is a SCAM with their "Crony" Paid $$ Doctors !!!
I hope now that my injury isn't going to make me disabled because of (Liberty Mutual / UPS) stopping treatment on me in Feb. STAY AWAY from this (China / Nike) Sweatshop here in the USA !!! ... I also was "verbally intimidated" by my Boss over the phone if I was 'really' hurt. The STRIKE "Must Happen" (100 Billion ) in Profit's in 2022 and "Part-time" workers are sleeping in their car's or on Food Stamps !!!
Hope the WC (Judge) fines $$$$ UPS (United Piece of Crap) too !!!!
so glad i left ups. was loading and scanning in the hot warehouse for just 16 ph
Pretty much need to take a lawyer with you during your visit
This behavior will only stop when ALL employees walk out.
So get another job, you were unemployed when you got that job.
Union local 688 is another very bad one about that.
Why would they want to get u back to work as fast as possible after an injury?right off the back i noticed red flags
I am a UPS worker, I suffered a lesion on my hand in August last year, the reason for the accident was because the trailer I worked on unloaded did not have the safety net or the bars, all this time it has been a complete nightmare, Could someone recommend a lawyer to see what I can do to return to my job and review my case, or a union contact. Thank you!
I was a driver for UPS and I feel off a 4 ft dock due to broken rubber on the back of truck. There Doctors said I was ok after falling on my neck that knock me out for few minutes. My doctor said I have soft tissue damage. I am now 52 and my back is so back I can no longer work but since UPS covered it up I am not able to get ssdi.... UPS was a good job but until you get hurt or complain.
They told me I was a liability so they gave me some money and pushed me to the curve .
Quit after 2 days the heat in the back of the truck was too much
That's the truth!
It’s why we have a union. I’m a 35 year employee. Always remember you have the RIGHT to see your own doctor no matter what UPS says. Not only are they like this with injuries, but accidents as well. I hit a vehicle that ran a red light, was ticketed and my vehicle’s own telematics shown I was going under the speed limit. Another time, a guy backed out his driveway and hit me. That driver was ticketed as well. I was charged with both by UPS.
Why am I not shocked that large companies DGAF about workers or injuries. They can simply put another's body there in place of you
Everyone should get together, shouldn't even matter if they are employees or not and flash mob protest when someone gets fired. Slow vans going in and out of UPS. I can't help but think if everyone joined together and walked in one direction they could flatten anything standing in front of them.