Garnt: I do not like incest. Also Garnt: Doujin: Oreimo parody (Incest) Manga: Domestic Girlfriend (Incest) Anime: Oreimo, Eromanga sensei (Incest) Yeah, sure Garnt, sure.
So lemme get this square: the manga/anime the boys know they'll love but just aren't in a rush to start/can't start bc they're busy Connor: One Piece Garnt: Fullmetal Alchemist Joey: HunterxHunter
One reason why I dislike the "Giorno never develops" argument is that almost no character develops in general or develops in a major way. You said like most people that Bruno carries the arc (he is my favorite character of Part 5) but how much does Bruno change or develop? Giorno fulfilled his position as the supporting protagonist perfectly. He didn't outshine his team members but also fulfilled his goal.
Giorno was never interesting to begin with and people dont see him as a support protagonist because he is marketed as a "JoJo" the main character of every part.
I think Giorno's feels alot flatter than his peers because the bulk of his development happens in his back story, which is established VERY early on. The rest of the GioBros, we get to know a bit before they get any further development or growth. As a result, Giorno feels less nuance, even though he really isn't, since what we get right at the beginning is also what we largely end with. Jonathan's similarly static, the only difference is how his story is structured. Getting to know him as a naive brash rich kid first before time skipping to what is basically his end state gives the audience the illusion of a more substantial change. Also, kinda hurts that Giorno's the least expressive of the JoJo's. Despite Joseph, Jotaro, and Josuke arguably being more one note, Giorno's subdued personality definitely results in a coin flip when it comes to how he's perceived. He doesn't stand out, but that quality, when compared to his family, might be what makes him stand out to you.
This has definitely convinced me to read Berserk. Side note: when Garnt says "Am I wrong" just proves the lasting influence Ladybeard has had on the podcast.
dude read it, i got to read it because of meme about berserk suffering and the ntr and it got me into the manga. the world building is so amazing i wish the dude who created it got immortal because of it xD
Connor: "So you can easily read it [Oyasumi Punpun] in one day." Okay good luck my man. It's true that when it hits you can't stop, kind of like watching a trainwreck but tears, confusion and anger instead of explosions.
Almost a year ago, I added Oyasumi Punpun, and now I just finished it for around 4-6 hours, How Joey described it is very accurate, I just feel empty now.
connor: Music to listen to while gaming joey: Music that is probably similar to what he makes garnt: Music to listen to while being transported to another world
I looooove how there are people at the studio and you hear them laughing as well. It makes the podcast more funny and more wholesome, especially this episode. Kinda like a live audience
What garnt missed out on is actually that natsuki has as much as brain cells that a teenage boy has at that age and the character development as he goes into college and then becoming an adult, the way he matures and accepts the dumpster fire of the situation he's in. There are actually consequences for loving your teacher,your sister like in real life and how characters deals with them
Garnt really sold me on the manga he talked about. He explained them so passionately, and it made them sound infinitely interesting. Even Domestic Girlfriend lol.
If you ever get shamed for liking Domestic Girlfriend just telling them "Wow, I guess you don't support women artists, I guess I'm just built different" Lmao
Connor's shitting on Joey for being a HunterXHunter imposter while he had been bamboozling the entirety of the internet with 2nd hand dragon ball references all this time.
Ya I get praising his art but it's almost like they weren't crediting One for his amazing writing when One is the reason why One Punch Man exists. Despite his art skill, and his friends and family discouraging him not to become a mangaka, he knew what he loved and kept doing it. I have a lot of respect for One
@@thehyp3rbeast699 Exactly the opposite of Mob Psycho 100 for me. If it had a spectacular ultra detailed art I think it would lose a lot of its personal and intimate feel.
I gotta disagree with that. In my opinion most of the best manga are the ones that don't overstay their welcome. Some of my favorites off the top of my head are Tekkonkinkreet, Ping Pong, Death Note, Azumanga Daioh, Solanin, Orange... All relatively short manga that wouldn't be nearly as good if they were longer
@@austinwiebe3801 if the narrative is short and it keeps its mark, it's cool but long anime can't tell their story in 20-30 episodes. One Piece cannot and I am happy for it. There is a reason it is the second most selling comic ever.
@CjayPlyz went through majority of the Chinese light novels. Most of them just ended up annoying me after a few dozen chapters in, though I did read hundreds of their chapters, i stopped reading them.
In this episode we will see: Joey: The presumably karen-like elite taste in manga Connor: *M O N K E Y* Garnt: Diverse, unexpected, and probably another horrendous opinion edit: wow, its a new dawn, they didn't argue, nor did they follow what they're usually like. This truly is not trash taste anymore, its The Gentlemen's Taste
I love how in Vinland saga, you see Thorfinn, a character that starts so violent and angry, become significantly less violent and go towards living (or trying to) as a “true warrior” without a sword. Then in juxtaposition, you see Canute, who starts off so feebly, change into a much more violent person. They both follow in their fathers footsteps. Vinland Saga is beautiful for a ton of reasons.
2:39:46 Conner: "You just looked at me dead in the eyes and said it's the journey" 2:48:01 Also Conner: "Yeah, it's always about that. It's always about the journey"
@@michaelfung4285I dunno dude, a deliberate joke would likely use a more egregious and obvious misspelling than this. This just reads as an honest mistake. Also impostor and imposter are both valid spellings, the -or is just slightly more proper. The -or is the standard convention for conjugation, but -er is more consistent with the rest of English and more intuitive
@@adidoes9942 why? They’re opinions aren’t all that different from regular peoples. The only difference is they’ve probably read more except maybe grant since he’s way more of an anime person
@@bruis1527 Well, you also have to consider that they are his friends and know his tastes pretty well; so if they recommend something, he would know they're thinking about his tastes when they say that.
I disagree when Connor said that Guts just gets even more violent as the series goes, shit just happens to him. I mean the edgiest Guts has been in was the Black Swordsman Arc. He has come a long way since because he is more accepting to things and has found new companions he can rely on.
@@ianabe636 yeah when he said that it didn’t sit right. There’s literally panels where guts stops swinging his sword because he realises he now has people to protect, rather than just be a violent monster. I imagine Connor was just generalising for his argument, but it’s just downplaying guts’ character arc
@@NoNo-fe8kn he probably forgot about the Brand of Sacrifice which Guts has no choice but fight everynight. Imagine if Thorfinn has the Brand, would he still be able to farm and seek for a peaceful life? Intead of Trashtastes, it should be Trashtakes.
When Garnt had Psyren, and then Joey said he loved it, I thought I was in some sort of strange dreamworld because I really didn't think anybody else cared about Psyren.
My favorite Onizuka moment is when he took a 5 hour test to renew his teaching license in 1 hour, with several bullets in his gut after beating up a room full of guys trying to kidnap one of his students.
The biggest kicker was it wasn't even his own student, it was the kid of the lady trying to get him fired, and the kid even tried to make him her slave by saying she'd talk to her mom to not get him fired. The man is a straight up legend and my favorite manga character of all time.
The boys: claims to not like talking about anime/manga for long because it’s tiring Also the boys: *talks about their taste in manga for nearly 3 hours, making it their longest podcast episode yet.*
"How long is Kingdom?" "60 volumes." "60 VOLUMES?!" Me, a Detective Conan fan: "Just 60? That's a decent amount." For context - Gosho Aoyama, the mad lad behind the series, has already put out 100 volumes of Detective Conan and it's still going. Which is why I call it the CSI of the manga world.
Did you ever hear another version of conan called special edition? (story by aoyama gosho and art not by him). In my country conan special edition got 45 volume and still ongoing. Great job from aoyama gosho
Pleasantly surprised Connor likes the Black Butler manga. Such a good story that unfortunately had an overbearing fandom steering away fans. Glad to see it getting some praise. 🙌
@@sovaponoc9970 Manga 100%. The anime does have a pretty good OST. Season 3 and the movies is when Black Butler finally got good anime adaptations. Season 1 - first few episodes are canon the rest is anime original. Season 2 is all anime original. The manga is the best way to experience the serious themes in my opinion. Hope that helps!
You are doing "ONE" dirty, while the art by Murata is obviously better and close to god-tier. A lot of the awesome scenes in the redraw, originate from the webcomic, especially in regards to how the scenes are framed.
despite ONE's art being kind of mediocre, I get super hype by it especially (SPOILER ALERT FOR OPM .........................) saitama and garou fight and I cried like a bitch reading (SPOILER ALERT FOR MOB PSYCHO.......................................) Dimple sacrificing himself for mob. He also knows how to frame the scenes so that I can still visualize the actions perfectly in my head
@@davidgrc75 If I think of the last 10 chapters as non canon it's a top 3 manga for me. With the last 10 existing it's still in my top 10 but it's hard to justify because of how much the ending killed the series for me.
CORRECTION: Terra Formars is not finished, but it's on hiatus unfortunately because of the writer's health. But the artist has a new sci-fi body horror survival manga called "Gigantis" and it's based on a novel on the same name. Y'all should check it out but it's only 1 chapter for now though cause the manga just recently released last week.
Im guessing the amount of work is totally different or something but how can your series go on hiatus because of health problems but you start releasing a new series?
Ikr how do you even mess up this bad... all their manager had to do is just open MAL and he would see that it's still ongoing to this day XDD "it's finished in 2014" lmao
If anyone likes Kingdom they should definitely read the novel "The Human Emperor" its very similar to kingdom in the 5D chess element and has 2400+chapters and is currently finished. Well worth a read.
@@Lilitanye welp i pretty much started watching one anime every two-three months or so about 4 years ago and I'm still reading chinese wuxia novels pretty much every day.
Description Forcefully brought over from the modern world to an alternate world, Wang Chong felt detached and lived his life aimlessly. However, when calamity struck and he saw his family and everything he cared for being torn apart, he felt regret. Thus, he stood up and eventually became the Grand Marshal of the Central Plains, leading an army against those who seek to destroy all he cherished. Yet, despite all his efforts, it was already too late to reverse destiny. But before his death, a shooting star, the same one which brought him to this world, appeared before him, and he was given another chance to undo his regrets.
as someone who loved the black butler anime in that quintessential 13-year-old girl way but grew up and read the manga and absolutely loved it, i have to applaud connor for representing the black butler manga really well.
@@retr0pearce765 season 2 had the potential to be great especially with the direction that the manga took in regards to the makeup of Ciel's character. It just falls short in a bunch of ways because it cant decide who the real main character of the arc is
@@retr0pearce765 season two is awful and if he doesn’t like ciel or alois than that’s his opinion. ciel is my favourite character and while i also was like :( he didn’t mention ciel but connor has a huge connection to sebastian, it makes sense that they only talked about sebastian.
Oh forgot about that one...iirc the ending arc wasn't great? I think it had a hiatus before that idk. But I remember loving it so so much before that. Hardly remember anything else
Psyren is the one that had the ending rushed in the two last chapters. Honestly, with the amount of time they were given, they at least gave it a decent "ending" point.
I loved Psyren. I didn't know about it cancellation by Shonen and the ending did feel really rushed when I read it. But, even rushed, there was still a satisfying ending (for me at least) compared to Bleach's ending.
@@sugarsugarsugar6783 jojo's part 1 anime happened in 2012, 9 years ago if you're trying to be a smartass just to say roundabout existed before jojo's (like I didn't know that), you should remind yourself that roundabout only became an iconic internet meme because of part 1 of jojo back in 2012
I fvcking love reading Berserk. Every erc, every chapter, every character was just so thought out. Everything was written perfectly, and it really showed Guts' character as the lonesome hero. It's really a masterpiece, and I'm so glad I read it. It's really THE best manga out there. The art style as well progresses which is amazing to see while you're reading it. Honestly, Berserk has all of the possible action you can think of. All of the possible worst things that could happen are all there. Even the saddest and heartfelt moments that you can also think of are all there, and presented really nicely. I agree when they said that those are the best moments in the manga. Those "quiet moments" served as breathers to Guts' really long journey. It was truly an experience reading that manga. That's why I was really sad when I heard about what happened to the mangaka. He really left a masterpiece behind :(
When i read Vagabond, Vinland Saga and Kingdom it totally changed my taste in Anime, Movies and Comics. It's so good, and as a Chinese person i hope some of the epic Mangas aren't censored in our market.
Did they forget that onizuka became a teacher because when he tried to hook up with a high school girl , he discovered her boyfriend is a teacher , then the next day he just decided " IMA BE A TEACHER "
Vinland saga is good imo, but for me Kingdom blasts past vinland as a historical manga. It's packed with action, the story is good throughout the series and the characters are fun as hell to watch. Whereas vinland got a kid whose only goal is to get revenge, and then he becomes good. For me it's a bit generic compared to Kingdom but still good Edit: Fucking hell, I got alot of shit for this take lmfao. I know u guys like vinland n think it makes u smarter n whatnot but I'm just saying Kingdom is better than vinland as a "Historical Manga", generally I put both about the same standing as both are good imo. Kingdom details the event of the history while at the same time expanding on a huge line of characters, while Vinland focuses on a set of characters. Also I know im oversimplifying stuff here, just take it as what it is n stop shitting your pants on other ppl opinions
Oyasumi Punpun is the one manga that I love and hate and would not recommend even to my most hated enemy. After reading the manga, I was just depressed. Randomly crying at some moments for nearly two weeks.
Same it genuinely made me suicidal I’ve never reacted so strongly to a piece of media but his home was so similar to what mine was like as a child so it was really hard to separate myself from it when reading it when it felt so real
The reason I think Jump never fails is that they get eyes on probably every single manga before it gets sent anywhere else. Jump is where every mangaka wants to be published.
Punpun is a masterpiece. i followed it while it was ongoing and have re-read this several times since its completion. This is a story that hits hard into you even after re-reading it for the fifth time.
Feels so weird to me to hear them say that "Jojo was unknown in the west" while in my country (Italy) the manga has been published since '93 But then again, Italy has always been a heaven for anime and manga, always been popular
Yeah, I can see what you mean. Doraemon and shinchan are quite popular in Asia as a whole and I was honestly quite surprised when some Italians randomly brought up doraemon and shinchan in a convo as an icebreaker or something.
@@bluedrapes7712 Intendo culturalmente parlando che ha sempre fatto parte delle nostre programmazioni e delle nostre letture Non so quanti anni tu abbia però sicuramente saprai di come soprattutto i nostri genitori guardavano principalmente anime quando erano più piccoli (capitan harlock, lady Oscar, Georgie per fare alcuni esempi) E andando nelle fumetterie e vedendo i titoli che abbiamo tradotto in Italia potrai subito notare che abbiamo praticamente tutti i titoli più importanti dai più vecchi ai più recenti, ma anche quelli più di nicchia Non è raro vedere che vengano annunciati anime e notare che da noi il manga corrispondente sia già diversi volumi avanti Tutto qui! Non parlavo proprio della diffusione delll'hobby che chiaramente ha un modo di diffondersi diverso Ma appunto è sempre stata una cosa molto presente da noi
As a fan of Solo Levelling I got to say - I generally agree that the story is somewhat lacking. But it is still a solidly-build world and, although it follows basically every possible Korean trope there is, it's still rather good. But the art... it is beyond gorgeous... it is borderline orgasmic. Also we all know Koreans love their necromancers just as much as the Chinese love their cultivators... not much intrigue there, tbh.
I remember reading Punpun because of Joey's recomendations near new years a couple years ago. Maybe shouldn't have read it all in one night but boy did it hit fucking HAAAAAAAARD, took me out of comission for like half a year but it certainly stayed with me ever since and marked me in a way that just made me change as a young adult. Thanks Joey
@@metallicafanatiko ya I very much agree that you shouldn't read punpun if you are struggling with mental health. I heard a lot of people said their depression got seriously bad after reading the manga
I've only played one or two Pokémon games as a kid and only caught a couple of episodes Pokémon. But this manga was my introduction of Pokémon, so my image of Pokémon was Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Ruby and Sapphire. God it it was so good.
@@water1793 ah man I wish they translated the uncensored version of the Pokémon manga. I personally really enjoy the more darker aspect. Even still, the Pokémon adventure manga is amazing. Wish they would do anime adaptations of them
I'm not even finished with the episode, but bless Connor Dawg for recommending Black Butler!! Listen, the older fandom of Kuroshitsuji is definitely uhh hm, Yaoi obsessed but once the hype train kinda died off, you really realize that Black butler isn't just yaoi bait, it's a genuinely entertaining story full of plot twists and just,,, oh boi fucked up shit. This twelve year old boy really threw his morals and never really gets it back, that boy will never be brought back into the light.
I mean honestly speaking, I was initially really drawn to the mangaka's art style, but the writing is definitely so so good as well. I've read from a tweet that the biggest most recent plot twist was something she set up and foreshadowed for more than 8 years. It's the slow, methodological build up that really affected me bc the clues were all there, I just didn't realize that it had that much of an importance to the plot 🤯
DomeKano is pretty good, had a rushed and questionable ending(even for Hina simps like me), but i still remember how amazing the experience was, waiting for new chapters after a lot of dramatic cliffhangers and talking with friends on what could happen next. And i feel like a lot of series these days fails to make people feel like that. But again there is a lot of hidden gems out there that are judged by its cover(Genre).
And the Manga’s pretty good honestly. Trashy, yes, but does more than enough to develop the characters to make the trashy plot and set up worth it for me.
I feel like if Tokyo Ghoul’s anime wasn’t such dog water the manga might get more attention; the manga is genuinely a masterpiece but the anime is mostly garbage so people don’t make it to the manga
1:50:43 Shonen Jump is like the Blockbuster Movie of manga. It doesn’t matter how old you are, sometimes you just want read something thats fun, simple and interesting with potential to grow into something big. And SJ hits all those things most of the time.
Ok... I literally burst out laughing when Sydney made her special appearance from the heavens as Garnt eternal eyes of judgement and just casually thanks her pointing towards the roof 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“The Case Study Of Vanitas” and “I Hear The Sunspot” are probably my two faves. Though I’ve read a ton, those two are definitely my children. I’ve read “The Case Study Of Vanitas” since the first manga came out in 8th grade, and it finely getting an anime during my freshman year of college was really heartwarming.
I´m currently watching Vanitas and it´s so cool. Is the manga even better? And "I hear the sunspot" is so adorable! In Germany we have a total of 5 volumes right now and I can´t wait to get more!!
Pretty sure slam dunk was popular because of the Chicago bulls and Michael jordan. It’s not a coincidence that they wear the same color uniforms as the Chicago bulls.
It's funny how every person that has finished Oyasumi Punpun has the same collective experience of just sitting still contemplating your entire existence after finishing the entire manga lmfao😭😭
The last 4 chapters would scar your life for days like it might make you feel empty. Definitely not recommended for people with depression or experiencing existential dread. I might sound exaggerating but think about for yourself.
My thoughts were WTF was that and why did I buy all of it before I started reading it, probably would have dropped it earlier if I hadn't. It was depressing and weird. Nice art though.
Exactly. It's still the best story I've ever read, it impacted me like no other show has, not even breaking bad. It might not be for everyone but it's dear to my heart
@@cas9007 Punpun is less "Im depressed I need help" and more "How deep can humanity fall, accelerated by depression", Case in point, that point in the final few chapters, where blinded in one eye, bloody and cut open, Punpun and Aiko have sex out in the forest. Two people truly driven to the brink of sanity more by themselves, than anything else, I'd say. It's a brilliant manga. I thought it was the most accurate depiction of depression ever, before BoJack Horseman showed up, but Punpun is a very very close second there. Again, just to reiterate, I think Punpun is more a warning of how deep you can push yourself, how deep you can sink, fueled by your own self hatred and inability to get out, than existential dread or fight against depression. I could go on for very long about Punpun. Hands down my favourite manga.
As a librarian, I can say that you spend more time looking at books and judging them rather than reading them. You don't read as a librarian. Also, I'm still trying to get manga into the library I work at. Wish me luck.
good luck: thankfully manga are getting very popular now so hopefully you get them in. maybe try putting in some of the top manga of all time like Naoki Urasawa's work first to convince the higher ups?
> I can say that you spend more time looking at books and judging them rather than reading them That's really really interesting. I kept thinking about your comment for the past few days, and I had to come back and respond. ...Can you actually read something for pure enjoyment, without being judgmental? I feel like I must point-out something bad in any story I read. If a character death that I feel was meant to be emotional but didn't hit me for some reason, I feel like I have to point that out, not necessarily pointing out in the internet and ranting, but keep it to myself and lowering my expectations and how I feel about the story. I never had a normal perspective tbh, I always read and watch things with a comparison-perspective. Good luck.
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@@NonCrazyNorGamer You can never separate yourself from your point of view. There will always be something that you either don't like, disagree, or simply not suitable to your taste. We are always judging. That's the way people are. And having expectations is good, the problem comes when your standards are too high. If you grew up reading classics suddenly modern literature are all just fanfics in comparison. But specifically when it comes to being a librarian and working on books, you have to look at them like something you are tagging. You have to look for the keywords with which a person can find a book. So you don't see it as a person's work, you see it as an item to tag. That's the biggest difference. And when you spend so much time looking at books that way, you kinda stop enjoying them. It's like being overexposed and overthinking every book you hold.
I had no idea Vinland Saga had a character based on fucking Askeladden. Now I have to read it. TLDR Askeladd(en) is a Norwegian fairy tale character that is basically the younger brother underdog who comes up with some cunning plan and gets all the women in the end
Actually, I really enjoy ONE's art style. It's super straightforward yet abstract and it really is touching my heart. Reading Mob Psycho 100 has been one of my favorite manga I think and I often come back to it cause I find the art weirdly amazing.
I agree. I think the ideas that ONE comes up with in the webcomics are great. He and Murata are long time collaborators. It is like a very good writer and an amazing artist came together at the right time.
Hot take: the onepunch man webcomic is better than the manga. The pacing is a lot better and One has the best comedic timing ever. The scene where flashy flash wants saitama to either repair his sword or give him money instead, and then saitama sends genos to buy some duct tape is so fucking hilarious. One's paneling is so underrated
Oyasumi punpun is my favorite manga, still one of the most spine chilling stories i've ever read, i still get chills when i see the “Punpun is just fine again today” panel. Would 100% reccomend ONLY if you are in a good mental state, please do not underestimate what Joey is saying about being very depressing and needing to just sit there and contemplate what you just read.
I remember reading it about 2 years ago, and I had to drop it not because it was bad, but because it genuinely made me feel horrible. I want to pick it back up again, but unfortunately I am absolutely not in the best mental state to do so :')
I think people really overestimate how hard it is to read. Existential dread, suicidal contemplation and the "dark" inside everyone are tough subjects to cover, but only if you've never seriously thought about it yourself.
true.. im really glad i pick that up after contemplating about the art first.. now like holy fuck.. how the mangaka could draw all of that in weekly basis
Other than the warfare and politics, it isn't that deep in terms of philosophy, themes when compared to the other three, Berserk, Vagabond and Vinland Saga. It's good but at times it just feels shonen esque, a mature version of One Piece.
When I was younger and read Vinland saga I hated the change of pace when the farmland arc began and ended up dropping it. But rereading it now that I'm older I really enjoyed it and basically ended up understanding what Thorfinn's dad was trying to teach him, and I felt like I had grown enough (like Thorfinn, too finally understand that).
Garnt: "I'm not into dark fantasy" loves kingdom, vinland saga, and berserk.... ok two of those are more historical fiction than dark fantasy but they are epic and dark which are the two main components to dark fantasy.
I listen to the podcast on Spotify and RUclips interchangeably so imagine my surprise when I heard about the mugs on Spotify on episode 60. I have a mental image of a white or black mug with a purple logo, looks clean, simple. I open up the video today, fucking trash can. Brilliant.
Conner commenting on manga being released monthly. Me immediately thinking of black butler monthly's chapters and D-gray man with 1 chapter every 4 months 😂
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Garnt: I do not like incest.
Also Garnt:
Doujin: Oreimo parody (Incest)
Manga: Domestic Girlfriend (Incest)
Anime: Oreimo, Eromanga sensei (Incest)
Yeah, sure Garnt, sure.
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Domestic girlfriend is the weakest most "technically" incest though
where's your pfp from?
@@brtt150 I thought none of them were blood related ... so it's technically not incest.
So lemme get this square: the manga/anime the boys know they'll love but just aren't in a rush to start/can't start bc they're busy
Connor: One Piece
Garnt: Fullmetal Alchemist
Joey: HunterxHunter
Funny how I haven't consumed any one of them either
@@1030warren same
The boys need to read/watch them so that they could make a trash taste video specifically for these shows, I would be down for that
Bruh the day connor finally watches/reads one piece ima celebrate
Na. Garnt will never consume Fullmetal Alchemist
One reason why I dislike the "Giorno never develops" argument is that almost no character develops in general or develops in a major way. You said like most people that Bruno carries the arc (he is my favorite character of Part 5) but how much does Bruno change or develop? Giorno fulfilled his position as the supporting protagonist perfectly. He didn't outshine his team members but also fulfilled his goal.
Giorno was never interesting to begin with and people dont see him as a support protagonist because he is marketed as a "JoJo" the main character of every part.
I think Giorno's feels alot flatter than his peers because the bulk of his development happens in his back story, which is established VERY early on. The rest of the GioBros, we get to know a bit before they get any further development or growth. As a result, Giorno feels less nuance, even though he really isn't, since what we get right at the beginning is also what we largely end with.
Jonathan's similarly static, the only difference is how his story is structured. Getting to know him as a naive brash rich kid first before time skipping to what is basically his end state gives the audience the illusion of a more substantial change.
Also, kinda hurts that Giorno's the least expressive of the JoJo's. Despite Joseph, Jotaro, and Josuke arguably being more one note, Giorno's subdued personality definitely results in a coin flip when it comes to how he's perceived. He doesn't stand out, but that quality, when compared to his family, might be what makes him stand out to you.
Giorno is the supporting protagonist? I thought he was the "JoJo" in "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure"
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@@secretasianman108 kokomo o. Okko o k. Ooこ お、おこも 🎂🎂👆
This has definitely convinced me to read Berserk.
Side note: when Garnt says "Am I wrong" just proves the lasting influence Ladybeard has had on the podcast.
dude read it, i got to read it because of meme about berserk suffering and the ntr and it got me into the manga. the world building is so amazing i wish the dude who created it got immortal because of it xD
READ IT NOW
It will be your best manga experience
I wanted to read it but always put it off , and then Kentao died and it hasn't ended
@@nogb8367 nah, it's not even the best manga
2:17:36 learned a new word. Impressed that Connor knew that at the top of his head
Hearing joey talk about Mx0 is so nostalgic to me and remembering how good it is before it got cancelled
I miss mx0. He said it didn’t get axed but it actually got axed :(
@@AndersonKao Unfortunately :/ Go read Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa, that author's other work. It's also cool.
AMEN to Garnt, 20th Century Boys is my favorite manga of all time as well and he definitely gave that manga justice in his explanation
The few times I've heard the boys talk about Berserk almost makes me tear up, and I haven't even read it yet.
Read it! It's a masterpiece.
They described it the best themselves; it's not over-hyped.
thats trying to jump in the hype, or 'bandwagoning"
I really enjoyed this episode so much it didn't feel like a 3 hours ep.
Connor: "So you can easily read it [Oyasumi Punpun] in one day."
Okay good luck my man. It's true that when it hits you can't stop, kind of like watching a trainwreck but tears, confusion and anger instead of explosions.
if you wanna destroy your sanity go ahead read oyasumi punpun in one day LOL
i couldn't even get pass one particular chapter much less finishing it in one day
Almost a year ago, I added Oyasumi Punpun, and now I just finished it for around 4-6 hours, How Joey described it is very accurate, I just feel empty now.
Connor, "I can't imagine reading one piece or kingdom" also Connor, "JOJO is the best read all the way to part 7".
Why spend 29.99 on a trash taste mug when I can watch 3 mugs for free every Friday .
Lmao that $30 went to a mount for ffxiv for me xD
Wait. 30$ for this mug, how does this work? They are including the shipping charges in it?
Nate Ortega
What mount?
This is the best comment ever 🤣
Pro gamer move
I can't wait for "Roasting our Trash Taste in Music" and for Connor's playlist to just be JoJo music and MLG tracks.
connor: Music to listen to while gaming
joey: Music that is probably similar to what he makes
garnt: Music to listen to while being transported to another world
Tbf you could make a whole load of pretty respectable 3x3s made up exclusively of music references in Jojo.
I think he said somewhere that he likes MCR too
I think that'd be too boring. Like how do you even describe a track.
Connor likes daftpunk
I'm gonna tell you what holds Joey back from HxH. The hope that it will one day finish and the fear of joining the hiatus club as he did with Berserk.
Gosh so true
oh boy yeah dont want any more mangaka going to valhalla before they finish their manga
I'm so scared of joking hxh too cuz if it's not complete I'll feel empty
Still inexcusable! The show is too good to not have an itch to watch. It’s one of my fasted binged shows.
About that....
I looooove how there are people at the studio and you hear them laughing as well. It makes the podcast more funny and more wholesome, especially this episode. Kinda like a live audience
yea it's like those TV shows, but this laughter is not forced
I agree! And when they interact with the people behind the camera. It's a good vibe
real time laugh track
It's been a feature of a lot of video podcasts for a while
@@parthupmanyu4366 the large room makes it echo, sounds more like an audience in a studio, rather than a room in an apartment
I've never heard gigguk talk about something so passionately as he did with kingdom lol
that and him gushing so fondly bout one piece (as he should) :'D
Idk man that domestic girlfriend tangent felt way more passionate
Kingdom is based
You should watch his videos on the Fate series
garnt just sold me on kingdom
it's so hilarious watching Garnt defending his domestic girlfriends like his life depend on it.
I would also defend domestic girlfriend like my life depends on it, it's just that good
@@justanerd414 same, I absolutely loved it all, up until the ending. The ending kinda sucks ngl
I would as well, the ending is kinda shit but not really mad about it cause I just like how the main character grow as a writer
What garnt missed out on is actually that natsuki has as much as brain cells that a teenage boy has at that age and the character development as he goes into college and then becoming an adult, the way he matures and accepts the dumpster fire of the situation he's in.
There are actually consequences for loving your teacher,your sister like in real life and how characters deals with them
I agree with him 👍🎶
"Bad things happen. Bad things continue to happen" is the shortest and the most accurate summary of berserk you can get
Kingdom fans can't express their gratitude enough to garnt for spreading the word of Kingdom
Kingdom is the perfected form ofChinese/Xianxia stories when all the bs and superpowers are excluded.
@@4rch0711 Kingdom is not a Xianxia?
AFAIK, xianxia is basically the power fantasy of Chinese novels
@@4rch0711 Kingdom is more like Wuxia, and no where close to Xianxia, and I am Chinese, so yeah my points stand haha.
@@ianlee6769 that's it, idk the term so I used the terms I found in the internet after typing chinese novels lol.
Connor this whole episode: "welp, I guess I'm sold"
How can he not be sold lmao
Then proceeds to read the titles after months
yeah def no eyerolls there
@@CC-mf9le people are busy my man
@@Dumbassfeature dont worry man its just a meme
I actually love the themed episodes more than the normal episodes ...guys never stop making these
Every time, I see her face.
@@big4headedGangster Lol
@@big4headedGangster Seriously tho, everytime I see her face.....
Finally they talked about manga and their picks is not bad
Yes, yes, yes! YES!!!
Garnt really sold me on the manga he talked about. He explained them so passionately, and it made them sound infinitely interesting. Even Domestic Girlfriend lol.
W pfp
Indeed Garnt was right about Domestic Girlfriend.
"People who read Domestic Girlfriend know why it's here"
@@ideadlift20kg83LOL nice comment
If you ever get shamed for liking Domestic Girlfriend just telling them "Wow, I guess you don't support women artists, I guess I'm just built different" Lmao
Grant: No one read 200 chapters of manga they hate
Me, who has read 300 chapters of a random wuxia isekai manhua to see if it gets better: bet
which one
@@majesticed9329 mesmerizing ghost doctor
@@SgFlaxy lmao
I'm... so sorry.
why?
Holy fuck! A 3 hrs podcast.
WOOOOOOOOOOOH! Yeeeeeeaaah Babyyy, that's what I've been waiting for, that's what it's all about. Woooo!
Wow how the fuck did I not notice that until i read this comment
My reaction exactly! Hell yea!
Wait what?! Omg I just clicked play and didn’t realize it 🤯😭💜
Now this will definitely help my gaming session
Connor's shitting on Joey for being a HunterXHunter imposter while he had been bamboozling the entirety of the internet with 2nd hand dragon ball references all this time.
I love how passionate Garnt is while talking about his 3x3, especially Kingdom and 20th Century Boys
And then there’s Connor who’s constantly being judgemental in hopes of being funny
I was so happy by seeing The Breaker in there as well, especially with the potential S3 at the horizon
@@fagarou jo what? Really?? Where did you get that, I would love another season.
@@brook117 you can't be serious lol
I was surprised to see him talking about Love Hina, nostalgia hit hard here xD
The fact that we were this close of the assistants giving a little fanservice by spelling Connor's name as _Cannur._
Look up Arhoangel Zelda, you won't regret it.
Honestly, a little sad that Murata gets credit for OPM's humor when he literally wanted to work with ONE because he enjoyed the webcomic so much.
Yeah I believe ONE is still doing the majority (if not all) of the writing
Ya I get praising his art but it's almost like they weren't crediting One for his amazing writing when One is the reason why One Punch Man exists. Despite his art skill, and his friends and family discouraging him not to become a mangaka, he knew what he loved and kept doing it. I have a lot of respect for One
Opm story is great but if it didn't have murata's gid tier art, I probably wouldn't read it
@@thehyp3rbeast699 Exactly the opposite of Mob Psycho 100 for me. If it had a spectacular ultra detailed art I think it would lose a lot of its personal and intimate feel.
@@jedel1043 yeah
Joey needs to watch Hunter x Hunter. Connor needs to watch One Piece. Grant needs to watch Fullmetal Alchemist.
Garnt lol
@@benthehobo5833 Its Grant what are you talking about
@@raunakshahi His name is Garnt.
They all need watch Date A Live if they haven't. My personal GOAT.
@@Monika-di7vvI respect your opinion but I didn't liked the anime, it's kinda mid.
When you find a good manga, even a thousand chapters aren't enough.
Say you’re a one piece fan without saying you’re a one piece fan
I gotta disagree with that. In my opinion most of the best manga are the ones that don't overstay their welcome. Some of my favorites off the top of my head are Tekkonkinkreet, Ping Pong, Death Note, Azumanga Daioh, Solanin, Orange... All relatively short manga that wouldn't be nearly as good if they were longer
@@austinwiebe3801 if the narrative is short and it keeps its mark, it's cool but long anime can't tell their story in 20-30 episodes. One Piece cannot and I am happy for it. There is a reason it is the second most selling comic ever.
hard disagree for obvious reasons
@CjayPlyz went through majority of the Chinese light novels. Most of them just ended up annoying me after a few dozen chapters in, though I did read hundreds of their chapters, i stopped reading them.
Next episode: Roasting our horrible taste in Light Novels
But Connor is not there.
They could do it like the doujin episode, but they would literally have to tie him down in order to force him to read one book
I'm still waiting when they roast their own taste in either music or books.
Yeah that would be cool especially if garnt or joey put utsuro no hako to zero no maria in their top 9.
Eroge
Monogatari is easily a given, especially for Joey since he can read Japanese.
In this episode we will see:
Joey: The presumably karen-like elite taste in manga
Connor: *M O N K E Y*
Garnt: Diverse, unexpected, and probably another horrendous opinion
edit: wow, its a new dawn, they didn't argue, nor did they follow what they're usually like. This truly is not trash taste anymore, its The Gentlemen's Taste
allso grant and isekai because everyone loves it
Joey was suprisingly normie, not Connor monke, but I expexted more obsecure stuff
@@lucygirl1111 and incest
except garnt.. hes definitely a man of culture lol
I love how in Vinland saga, you see Thorfinn, a character that starts so violent and angry, become significantly less violent and go towards living (or trying to) as a “true warrior” without a sword. Then in juxtaposition, you see Canute, who starts off so feebly, change into a much more violent person. They both follow in their fathers footsteps. Vinland Saga is beautiful for a ton of reasons.
Even tho i anime only
Canute was my favorite character in vinland saga
“Domestic Girlfriend” frankly from how Garnt clarified it, seemed as if it’s an incest rendition of “Drake and Josh”
This is both correct and wrong, but more than that, is absolutely the most cursed take ive seen about domestic girlfriend
@@asdf852asdfBut it's still technically 50% correct
Dafuq, dude
Wholesome, guess I gotta read it
Realistically, how is it incest if they're not related? Lol
Connor being a bojack horseman fan is the most fitting thing ever.
I wholeheartedly relate to Connor when it comes to One Punch Man, the first season was so good that it got me to read the manga.
Yo
Your an hour late
here comes the boyyyyyyy~
I’m so glad I did man the manga is a masterpiece
RIP this mans RUclips notifications
Of course THE BOYS kept saying the name of the manga "Terra ForMARS" but still got confused and thought it took place on the Moon.
To be fair I thought it was called Terraformers
Luna Formers?
Too bad the manga is on a indefinite hiatus
@@kaein2973 i thought the same too. i just thought its a new evolved human..
I wanna see their live reactions when the bois read this comment lol
Connor: "why don't we get chads in harem manga"
100 girlfriends who really really really really really love you: hold my beer
LOVE that manga. It's SO good. Somehow perverted as Hell, incredibly wholesome, and absolutely hilarious all at the same time.
@@Ryuflare1 Wait it's a manga? wtf is up with titles these days
@@Ryuflare1 And The girls are the pervert one and the protagonist try his hardest to save his virginity before marriage lol.
I cannot wait til it gets an anime; it’ll blow all other harems out of the water if done right!
@@kurokun07 I kinda hate Keima for his hatred toward Harem Genre.
2:39:46 Conner: "You just looked at me dead in the eyes and said it's the journey"
2:48:01 Also Conner: "Yeah, it's always about that. It's always about the journey"
Connor*
@@rynsart It was on purpose lol
@@michaelfung4285wait how is misspelling his name on purpose?
@@anirudhakoppaka3422 kind of like when people spell "imposter" instead of "impostor", idk it seemed funny to me
@@michaelfung4285I dunno dude, a deliberate joke would likely use a more egregious and obvious misspelling than this. This just reads as an honest mistake. Also impostor and imposter are both valid spellings, the -or is just slightly more proper. The -or is the standard convention for conjugation, but -er is more consistent with the rest of English and more intuitive
Garnt and Joey: "It's amazing"
Connor: "Alright, I'm sold"
*Preceeds to Only read 2
If the two biggest anime youtubers recommend me some manga, I would definitely be sold too
@@adidoes9942 why? They’re opinions aren’t all that different from regular peoples. The only difference is they’ve probably read more except maybe grant since he’s way more of an anime person
@@bruis1527 Well, you also have to consider that they are his friends and know his tastes pretty well; so if they recommend something, he would know they're thinking about his tastes when they say that.
@@bruis1527 "The only difference is they’ve probably read more" Thats the point.
I disagree when Connor said that Guts just gets even more violent as the series goes, shit just happens to him. I mean the edgiest Guts has been in was the Black Swordsman Arc. He has come a long way since because he is more accepting to things and has found new companions he can rely on.
Yeah, Guts becomes way more human as the story goes on.
@@balabanasireti Actually half.. the more he relies on the power of the armor the more it consumes his humanity.
@@ianabe636 yeah when he said that it didn’t sit right. There’s literally panels where guts stops swinging his sword because he realises he now has people to protect, rather than just be a violent monster. I imagine Connor was just generalising for his argument, but it’s just downplaying guts’ character arc
@@NoNo-fe8kn he probably forgot about the Brand of Sacrifice which Guts has no choice but fight everynight. Imagine if Thorfinn has the Brand, would he still be able to farm and seek for a peaceful life? Intead of Trashtastes, it should be Trashtakes.
@@ianabe636 I like your profile photo
Am i the only one who surprisingly thought Connor had a lot more to say about manga than i expected
He reads more manga he said that on a stream it's only on hentai that he likes movement
Yeah each boy got 1 hour each
When Garnt had Psyren, and then Joey said he loved it, I thought I was in some sort of strange dreamworld because I really didn't think anybody else cared about Psyren.
You and me both, brother
My favorite Onizuka moment is when he took a 5 hour test to renew his teaching license in 1 hour, with several bullets in his gut after beating up a room full of guys trying to kidnap one of his students.
WHAT
The "conclusion" to that had me in stitches for weeks, dear God
@@MixMasterLar same lmao
And he got 100 points in the end of test, amazing shonen jump
The biggest kicker was it wasn't even his own student, it was the kid of the lady trying to get him fired, and the kid even tried to make him her slave by saying she'd talk to her mom to not get him fired. The man is a straight up legend and my favorite manga character of all time.
How did it take so many eps to get to the manga episode 😁
Cause Connor doesn’t read anything but Yaoi.
@Blaster 2187 Literally
But they already made one 6 months ago
This is their 2nd one
It took 35 episodes i guess
The boys: claims to not like talking about anime/manga for long because it’s tiring
Also the boys: *talks about their taste in manga for nearly 3 hours, making it their longest podcast episode yet.*
This confirm their statement actually. They know it’s tiring because they wouldn’t be able to stop talking about their favorite manga.
"How long is Kingdom?"
"60 volumes."
"60 VOLUMES?!"
Me, a Detective Conan fan: "Just 60? That's a decent amount."
For context - Gosho Aoyama, the mad lad behind the series, has already put out 100 volumes of Detective Conan and it's still going. Which is why I call it the CSI of the manga world.
Hajime no Ippo also!
Did you ever hear another version of conan called special edition? (story by aoyama gosho and art not by him). In my country conan special edition got 45 volume and still ongoing. Great job from aoyama gosho
Not to brag but my mangaka has made 131 volumes and still going
@@sisyphus66 aoyama gosho : 100+ conan, 45 conan spinoff, 10+ conan movie, 24 yaiba, 4 kaito kid
Gave up on collecting Conan on like volume 80-something
Pleasantly surprised Connor likes the Black Butler manga. Such a good story that unfortunately had an overbearing fandom steering away fans. Glad to see it getting some praise. 🙌
I remember watching the first season as a kid and enjoying it a lot. Gonna read the manga now because of Connor!
Would you recommend the anime or the manga?
@@sovaponoc9970 Manga 100%. The anime does have a pretty good OST. Season 3 and the movies is when Black Butler finally got good anime adaptations. Season 1 - first few episodes are canon the rest is anime original. Season 2 is all anime original. The manga is the best way to experience the serious themes in my opinion. Hope that helps!
@@yurikuki The manga is very good! 👍
Hve you seen hes channel? Connor used to allways upload black bulter
Hearing that Joey hasn’t read/watched HxH had me absolutely shellshocked.
Yu Yu Hakusho does go hard though.
In one of his videos he said that it’s because he doesn’t want something like berserk. Ya know the hiatus of a very good show
Yeah it came out of nowhere.. even the bois doesn't know it..
He actually says it in the beginning of the previous trash taste manga episode
@M Billa meaning that he hasn't read or watched it yet lol
@M Billa yep
Joey: reads kingdom
Friend: "I'm here let's go"
Joey: "plans have been cancelled"
reminds me of that time Joey said that none of these types of comments are funny
@@薔薇-k2m Haha
The mission has changed, they always do
@@薔薇-k2m this ones okay, because it isn’t the “nobody:” format
@@davidklassen5791 Still not funny, plus it's literally what happens in the video.
You are doing "ONE" dirty, while the art by Murata is obviously better and close to god-tier. A lot of the awesome scenes in the redraw, originate from the webcomic, especially in regards to how the scenes are framed.
despite ONE's art being kind of mediocre, I get super hype by it especially (SPOILER ALERT FOR OPM .........................) saitama and garou fight and I cried like a bitch reading (SPOILER ALERT FOR MOB PSYCHO.......................................) Dimple sacrificing himself for mob.
He also knows how to frame the scenes so that I can still visualize the actions perfectly in my head
Lol I respect garnt for defending domestic girlfriend as much as he did. That’s how I also feel about the trash anime I like as well
I love domestic girlfriend. Regardless of the ending the manga was still really nice to read.
@@davidgrc75 If I think of the last 10 chapters as non canon it's a top 3 manga for me. With the last 10 existing it's still in my top 10 but it's hard to justify because of how much the ending killed the series for me.
CORRECTION: Terra Formars is not finished, but it's on hiatus unfortunately because of the writer's health. But the artist has a new sci-fi body horror survival manga called "Gigantis" and it's based on a novel on the same name. Y'all should check it out but it's only 1 chapter for now though cause the manga just recently released last week.
I came here to say this but you beat me to it.
Im guessing the amount of work is totally different or something but how can your series go on hiatus because of health problems but you start releasing a new series?
@@Ashne405 it seems the *writer* is having health issues, not the mangaka.
Ikr how do you even mess up this bad... all their manager had to do is just open MAL and he would see that it's still ongoing to this day XDD "it's finished in 2014" lmao
Question - where can I read Gigantis?
Ok episode idea, Connor reads One Piece, Garnt FMA and Joey Hunter x Hunter, and then discuss them. Here, free content.
one of those is significantly longer than the other two
You never know they might be doing this idea already and just waiting for connor
@@guava2828 Let's hope
It would be nice or at least read idk like the first 50 chapters each, we dont want conner to die
@@rasen7721 once you reach alabasta one piece feels like 3 chapters
If anyone likes Kingdom they should definitely read the novel "The Human Emperor" its very similar to kingdom in the 5D chess element and has 2400+chapters and is currently finished. Well worth a read.
Hol up.
...2.4k chapters?
@@GRwapik it's a novel,dw about it. Pretty avg size for a Chinese novel. Infact the king's avatar has 1700+ chaps
It sounds like a rabbit hole. Im sold
@@Lilitanye welp i pretty much started watching one anime every two-three months or so about 4 years ago and I'm still reading chinese wuxia novels pretty much every day.
Description
Forcefully brought over from the modern world to an alternate world, Wang Chong felt detached and lived his life aimlessly.
However, when calamity struck and he saw his family and everything he cared for being torn apart, he felt regret.
Thus, he stood up and eventually became the Grand Marshal of the Central Plains, leading an army against those who seek to destroy all he cherished.
Yet, despite all his efforts, it was already too late to reverse destiny.
But before his death, a shooting star, the same one which brought him to this world, appeared before him, and he was given another chance to undo his regrets.
as someone who loved the black butler anime in that quintessential 13-year-old girl way but grew up and read the manga and absolutely loved it, i have to applaud connor for representing the black butler manga really well.
I didn't like the fact that he focused solely on Sebas like Ciel didn't exist, and how much he trash talked season 2 :c
@@retr0pearce765 well season 2 isnt good at all! Its not in the manga at all
@@jessicajohnson2412 I know it's not canon, but I still liked it, Alois is my second favourite character, just next to Ciel
@@retr0pearce765 season 2 had the potential to be great especially with the direction that the manga took in regards to the makeup of Ciel's character. It just falls short in a bunch of ways because it cant decide who the real main character of the arc is
@@retr0pearce765 season two is awful and if he doesn’t like ciel or alois than that’s his opinion. ciel is my favourite character and while i also was like :( he didn’t mention ciel but connor has a huge connection to sebastian, it makes sense that they only talked about sebastian.
Someone spoke about Psyren finally. Hats off to Garnt and Joey. It’s a great read.
Oh forgot about that one...iirc the ending arc wasn't great? I think it had a hiatus before that idk.
But I remember loving it so so much before that.
Hardly remember anything else
Psyren, Mx0 and Double Arts all had great potential. Sadly they never got finished.
Psyren is the one that had the ending rushed in the two last chapters.
Honestly, with the amount of time they were given, they at least gave it a decent "ending" point.
I loved Psyren. I didn't know about it cancellation by Shonen and the ending did feel really rushed when I read it. But, even rushed, there was still a satisfying ending (for me at least) compared to Bleach's ending.
Mid 7/10 read
Connor: "...Giorno's theme, Megalovania, there's probably some other I'm forgetting"
Roundabout: "Am I a joke to you?"
Smash mouth: “the only problem with being faster then light is that you always live in the darkness”
Time stamp?
@@PaleBrownDot 50:25
@@greyfox4838 They said in the past 10 years
@@sugarsugarsugar6783 jojo's part 1 anime happened in 2012, 9 years ago
if you're trying to be a smartass just to say roundabout existed before jojo's (like I didn't know that), you should remind yourself that roundabout only became an iconic internet meme because of part 1 of jojo back in 2012
I fvcking love reading Berserk. Every erc, every chapter, every character was just so thought out. Everything was written perfectly, and it really showed Guts' character as the lonesome hero. It's really a masterpiece, and I'm so glad I read it. It's really THE best manga out there. The art style as well progresses which is amazing to see while you're reading it.
Honestly, Berserk has all of the possible action you can think of. All of the possible worst things that could happen are all there. Even the saddest and heartfelt moments that you can also think of are all there, and presented really nicely. I agree when they said that those are the best moments in the manga. Those "quiet moments" served as breathers to Guts' really long journey.
It was truly an experience reading that manga. That's why I was really sad when I heard about what happened to the mangaka. He really left a masterpiece behind :(
Surprising lack of Vagabond for the boys, seeing as it's often grouped with the other Big Seinen on Hiatus
When i read Vagabond, Vinland Saga and Kingdom it totally changed my taste in Anime, Movies and Comics. It's so good, and as a Chinese person i hope some of the epic Mangas aren't censored in our market.
@@Miraclelnvoker good taste
Vagabond was just so good, really damn good
Vagabond is just beautiful.
It's the most consistent in terms of quality out of the big four.
Did they forget that onizuka became a teacher because when he tried to hook up with a high school girl , he discovered her boyfriend is a teacher , then the next day he just decided " IMA BE A TEACHER "
Fucking Legend
Just discovered this legend of a anime/manga, just a few years ago. It became an instant top favorite for me!
I’m so happy that they talked about Vinland Saga. The manga is GOATED.
Vinland saga is good imo, but for me Kingdom blasts past vinland as a historical manga. It's packed with action, the story is good throughout the series and the characters are fun as hell to watch. Whereas vinland got a kid whose only goal is to get revenge, and then he becomes good. For me it's a bit generic compared to Kingdom but still good
Edit: Fucking hell, I got alot of shit for this take lmfao. I know u guys like vinland n think it makes u smarter n whatnot but I'm just saying Kingdom is better than vinland as a "Historical Manga", generally I put both about the same standing as both are good imo.
Kingdom details the event of the history while at the same time expanding on a huge line of characters, while Vinland focuses on a set of characters.
Also I know im oversimplifying stuff here, just take it as what it is n stop shitting your pants on other ppl opinions
@@kaii2505 vinland generic??? I think you read another manga
Hell yeah it is
@@kaii2505 yeah you oversimplified the hell out of vinland but both are amazing series regardless
@@kaii2505 Jesus fucking Christ bro you got me cringing, sounds like you didn’t get it at all
Oyasumi Punpun is the one manga that I love and hate and would not recommend even to my most hated enemy. After reading the manga, I was just depressed. Randomly crying at some moments for nearly two weeks.
I've heard alot of that manga. Is it really that dark?
Same it genuinely made me suicidal I’ve never reacted so strongly to a piece of media but his home was so similar to what mine was like as a child so it was really hard to separate myself from it when reading it when it felt so real
Grant: Haven't watched FMA
Joey: Haven't read HxH
CONNER: Still wholesome sigma monke
Connor hasn't started one piece smh
@M Billa Ultra instinct ballsack
*hasn't
How about Gintama?
No one will see this but Joey dropped a good Chris impression around 16:15
Damn, you are right
The reason I think Jump never fails is that they get eyes on probably every single manga before it gets sent anywhere else. Jump is where every mangaka wants to be published.
Jump to new mangaka is like what Hololive is to Vtuber community, as in they're the topdogs
@@ShatteredGlass916 I mean fair enough
@@ShatteredGlass916 hololive is the top dog when it comes to outside Japan. Njijisanji is still the mainstream vtuber company inside Japan
@@crimsonphoenix8907 o yeah, i forgot about them
Punpun is a masterpiece. i followed it while it was ongoing and have re-read this several times since its completion. This is a story that hits hard into you even after re-reading it for the fifth time.
Just read it this week, Aikos face is enough to ruin my whole day now.
I'm currently reading it
the crazy thing is that they adapted like 600+ chapters of baki in less than 100 episodes, so theres hope for everything
To be fair Baki has a lot of chapters that have 5 pages for just characters moving their hand and foot lol.
I'm still hoping for a new season of baki
@@soseikiharagatatsu7859 were going to get the arizona prison arc animated already by Netflix. We got a trailer and op too
Feels so weird to me to hear them say that "Jojo was unknown in the west" while in my country (Italy) the manga has been published since '93
But then again, Italy has always been a heaven for anime and manga, always been popular
Yeah, I can see what you mean. Doraemon and shinchan are quite popular in Asia as a whole and I was honestly quite surprised when some Italians randomly brought up doraemon and shinchan in a convo as an icebreaker or something.
@@samuraijosh1595 yep!! I loved both as a kid
Damn u are lucky. In my country anime was like a unknown word and only became popular 5 years ago
which part of italy? I'm from and still live in naples and literally barely anybody i know watches anime or reads manga lmao
@@bluedrapes7712 Intendo culturalmente parlando che ha sempre fatto parte delle nostre programmazioni e delle nostre letture
Non so quanti anni tu abbia però sicuramente saprai di come soprattutto i nostri genitori guardavano principalmente anime quando erano più piccoli (capitan harlock, lady Oscar, Georgie per fare alcuni esempi)
E andando nelle fumetterie e vedendo i titoli che abbiamo tradotto in Italia potrai subito notare che abbiamo praticamente tutti i titoli più importanti dai più vecchi ai più recenti, ma anche quelli più di nicchia
Non è raro vedere che vengano annunciati anime e notare che da noi il manga corrispondente sia già diversi volumi avanti
Tutto qui! Non parlavo proprio della diffusione delll'hobby che chiaramente ha un modo di diffondersi diverso
Ma appunto è sempre stata una cosa molto presente da noi
Can’t wait for Joey to carry the tangents.
Plot twist: Joey and Connor have remarkably similar opinions and tastes in Manga.
What are tangents? Can you explain.
@@coffeunity cmon lelouch I thought you were smarter than that
@@coffeunity it's the part's where the boys go off topic and talk about another subject for a little bit, side convos pretty much
I was expecting more Yaoi for Connor’s 3x3
@@doorknob6384 I read that as Side-o convos
As a fan of Solo Levelling I got to say - I generally agree that the story is somewhat lacking. But it is still a solidly-build world and, although it follows basically every possible Korean trope there is, it's still rather good. But the art... it is beyond gorgeous... it is borderline orgasmic. Also we all know Koreans love their necromancers just as much as the Chinese love their cultivators... not much intrigue there, tbh.
connor who doesn't own a book: "im something of a reader myself"
It’s cause parts of his channel is dedicated to reading weird manga or yaoi manga…I think
@M Billa thats a dvd .-.
I remember reading Punpun because of Joey's recomendations near new years a couple years ago. Maybe shouldn't have read it all in one night but boy did it hit fucking HAAAAAAAARD, took me out of comission for like half a year but it certainly stayed with me ever since and marked me in a way that just made me change as a young adult. Thanks Joey
Half a year? Now I'm more afraid to read it
@@ricmorales3406 Don't be, it was half my fault for reading int whilst being In a bad place mentally
@@metallicafanatiko ya I very much agree that you shouldn't read punpun if you are struggling with mental health. I heard a lot of people said their depression got seriously bad after reading the manga
On the subject of manga, here's your reminder that the Pokemon Adventures (or Pocket Monsters Special in Japan) is actually incredible.
The uncensored version right?
underrated comment right here
@@water1793 wait what
I've only played one or two Pokémon games as a kid and only caught a couple of episodes Pokémon. But this manga was my introduction of Pokémon, so my image of Pokémon was Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Ruby and Sapphire. God it it was so good.
@@water1793 ah man I wish they translated the uncensored version of the Pokémon manga. I personally really enjoy the more darker aspect. Even still, the Pokémon adventure manga is amazing. Wish they would do anime adaptations of them
Cant believe they baited me in the thumbnail thinking they would talk about Bakuman
I'm not even finished with the episode, but bless Connor Dawg for recommending Black Butler!! Listen, the older fandom of Kuroshitsuji is definitely uhh hm, Yaoi obsessed but once the hype train kinda died off, you really realize that Black butler isn't just yaoi bait, it's a genuinely entertaining story full of plot twists and just,,, oh boi fucked up shit. This twelve year old boy really threw his morals and never really gets it back, that boy will never be brought back into the light.
honestly if anything he just loses more and more morals over the course of the story.
No thanks.
the plot twist got me, shiz got darker and deeper
I mean honestly speaking, I was initially really drawn to the mangaka's art style, but the writing is definitely so so good as well. I've read from a tweet that the biggest most recent plot twist was something she set up and foreshadowed for more than 8 years. It's the slow, methodological build up that really affected me bc the clues were all there, I just didn't realize that it had that much of an importance to the plot 🤯
Meh.
Domestic Girlfriend in a manga 3x3. Garnt cannot stop expressing his love for dumpster fires. That's some commitment though, I'll give him that.
Well, he made me read it. I love it
DomeKano is pretty good, had a rushed and questionable ending(even for Hina simps like me), but i still remember how amazing the experience was, waiting for new chapters after a lot of dramatic cliffhangers and talking with friends on what could happen next.
And i feel like a lot of series these days fails to make people feel like that. But again there is a lot of hidden gems out there that are judged by its cover(Genre).
Hina best girl
And the Manga’s pretty good honestly. Trashy, yes, but does more than enough to develop the characters to make the trashy plot and set up worth it for me.
Fellow Rui team here. I loved on how goofy the anime was and the manga ending 😂
I feel like if Tokyo Ghoul’s anime wasn’t such dog water the manga might get more attention; the manga is genuinely a masterpiece but the anime is mostly garbage so people don’t make it to the manga
1:50:43 Shonen Jump is like the Blockbuster Movie of manga. It doesn’t matter how old you are, sometimes you just want read something thats fun, simple and interesting with potential to grow into something big. And SJ hits all those things most of the time.
Except blockbuster died 💀
Can’t relate to this as I’m not an american
They cancel stories from time to time, like last year with the time travel mangaka. So much wasted potential.
@@Nadia1989 What's it called
Ok... I literally burst out laughing when Sydney made her special appearance from the heavens as Garnt eternal eyes of judgement and just casually thanks her pointing towards the roof 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“The Case Study Of Vanitas” and “I Hear The Sunspot” are probably my two faves. Though I’ve read a ton, those two are definitely my children. I’ve read “The Case Study Of Vanitas” since the first manga came out in 8th grade, and it finely getting an anime during my freshman year of college was really heartwarming.
Vanitas is ass
I´m currently watching Vanitas and it´s so cool. Is the manga even better? And "I hear the sunspot" is so adorable! In Germany we have a total of 5 volumes right now and I can´t wait to get more!!
You should check out her first Jun's first big work pandora hearts - if you like Vanitas (its great)
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You should really check out Pandora Hearts. One of the greatest manga ever
Pretty sure slam dunk was popular because of the Chicago bulls and Michael jordan. It’s not a coincidence that they wear the same color uniforms as the Chicago bulls.
It's funny how every person that has finished Oyasumi Punpun has the same collective experience of just sitting still contemplating your entire existence after finishing the entire manga lmfao😭😭
The last 4 chapters would scar your life for days like it might make you feel empty. Definitely not recommended for people with depression or experiencing existential dread. I might sound exaggerating but think about for yourself.
The blood going through my heart and veins felt like petrol after I finished. Great manga
My thoughts were WTF was that and why did I buy all of it before I started reading it, probably would have dropped it earlier if I hadn't. It was depressing and weird.
Nice art though.
Exactly. It's still the best story I've ever read, it impacted me like no other show has, not even breaking bad. It might not be for everyone but it's dear to my heart
@@cas9007 Punpun is less "Im depressed I need help" and more "How deep can humanity fall, accelerated by depression", Case in point, that point in the final few chapters, where blinded in one eye, bloody and cut open, Punpun and Aiko have sex out in the forest. Two people truly driven to the brink of sanity more by themselves, than anything else, I'd say. It's a brilliant manga. I thought it was the most accurate depiction of depression ever, before BoJack Horseman showed up, but Punpun is a very very close second there.
Again, just to reiterate, I think Punpun is more a warning of how deep you can push yourself, how deep you can sink, fueled by your own self hatred and inability to get out, than existential dread or fight against depression. I could go on for very long about Punpun. Hands down my favourite manga.
I love how Connor alway try to reference Cartman “how do i reez these kids” with Joey and Garnt displaying little to none reaction
He can't reach deez keeds
As a librarian, I can say that you spend more time looking at books and judging them rather than reading them. You don't read as a librarian. Also, I'm still trying to get manga into the library I work at. Wish me luck.
Goofd luck..though careful the manga that kind have ecchi..parents will come storm to sue
good luck: thankfully manga are getting very popular now so hopefully you get them in. maybe try putting in some of the top manga of all time like Naoki Urasawa's work first to convince the higher ups?
Maybe start with very normie manga instead of the too niche ones.
> I can say that you spend more time looking at books and judging them rather than reading them
That's really really interesting. I kept thinking about your comment for the past few days, and I had to come back and respond.
...Can you actually read something for pure enjoyment, without being judgmental? I feel like I must point-out something bad in any story I read. If a character death that I feel was meant to be emotional but didn't hit me for some reason, I feel like I have to point that out, not necessarily pointing out in the internet and ranting, but keep it to myself and lowering my expectations and how I feel about the story. I never had a normal perspective tbh, I always read and watch things with a comparison-perspective.
Good luck.
@@NonCrazyNorGamer You can never separate yourself from your point of view. There will always be something that you either don't like, disagree, or simply not suitable to your taste.
We are always judging. That's the way people are. And having expectations is good, the problem comes when your standards are too high. If you grew up reading classics suddenly modern literature are all just fanfics in comparison.
But specifically when it comes to being a librarian and working on books, you have to look at them like something you are tagging. You have to look for the keywords with which a person can find a book. So you don't see it as a person's work, you see it as an item to tag. That's the biggest difference. And when you spend so much time looking at books that way, you kinda stop enjoying them. It's like being overexposed and overthinking every book you hold.
I had no idea Vinland Saga had a character based on fucking Askeladden. Now I have to read it. TLDR Askeladd(en) is a Norwegian fairy tale character that is basically the younger brother underdog who comes up with some cunning plan and gets all the women in the end
The whole thing about "I'm 16 and edgy" is so on point, lol
Actually, I really enjoy ONE's art style. It's super straightforward yet abstract and it really is touching my heart. Reading Mob Psycho 100 has been one of my favorite manga I think and I often come back to it cause I find the art weirdly amazing.
I agree. I think the ideas that ONE comes up with in the webcomics are great. He and Murata are long time collaborators. It is like a very good writer and an amazing artist came together at the right time.
Hot take: the onepunch man webcomic is better than the manga. The pacing is a lot better and One has the best comedic timing ever. The scene where flashy flash wants saitama to either repair his sword or give him money instead, and then saitama sends genos to buy some duct tape is so fucking hilarious. One's paneling is so underrated
ONE has a good sense of composition and perspective imo, really visible in Mob
@@poolgoldworldwild2163 ONE and Murata are the same person...or they are two different people?
@@dhruvsenju they are two different people
Oyasumi punpun is my favorite manga, still one of the most spine chilling stories i've ever read, i still get chills when i see the “Punpun is just fine again today” panel. Would 100% reccomend ONLY if you are in a good mental state, please do not underestimate what Joey is saying about being very depressing and needing to just sit there and contemplate what you just read.
I remember reading it about 2 years ago, and I had to drop it not because it was bad, but because it genuinely made me feel horrible. I want to pick it back up again, but unfortunately I am absolutely not in the best mental state to do so :')
So... hmm.. not gonna read punpun for now..
I'll just add this to my list.
I think people really overestimate how hard it is to read. Existential dread, suicidal contemplation and the "dark" inside everyone are tough subjects to cover, but only if you've never seriously thought about it yourself.
Punpun flying while carrying an umbrella is still one of the best manga panels I've ever seen
Sell it to me I'm not that interested nor invested yet i want spoilers.
This is basically Joey and Garnt trying to make Connor read
So happy to see the boys talking about Kingdom. This masterpiece deserves more attention
true.. im really glad i pick that up after contemplating about the art first..
now like holy fuck.. how the mangaka could draw all of that in weekly basis
Is it good? I've been trying to get into manga more recently
@@cianvincentmaduay2599 one of the best put there if not the best
@@cianvincentmaduay2599 Absolute masterpiece. If you are interested in wars and politics , give this a go.
Other than the warfare and politics, it isn't that deep in terms of philosophy, themes when compared to the other three, Berserk, Vagabond and Vinland Saga. It's good but at times it just feels shonen esque, a mature version of One Piece.
Me: *literally suffering from my cramps*
*Trash taste talking about manga*
Me: *Happier, but still in pain* 💞💞💞
yes same
Gotta admit, Garnts list was actually surprisingly good. Kingdom, Psyren, The Breaker. Damn dude.
These are all insane Manga and The Breaker's art is just so good
Why surprising? 😅
When I was younger and read Vinland saga I hated the change of pace when the farmland arc began and ended up dropping it. But rereading it now that I'm older I really enjoyed it and basically ended up understanding what Thorfinn's dad was trying to teach him, and I felt like I had grown enough (like Thorfinn, too finally understand that).
I feel like if they like the concept of bug DNA being injected into humans, they might like the webtoon Jungle Juice
damn homie you up to date with ur comics
@@langotango2783 Who best girl tho
Ngl dowhas my fav waifu. She’s just a fine badass bro
I like how Connor's the host of an episode thats literally about reading when he has said multiple times that he doesn't like to read.
He doesn’t like the pron books
Garnt: "I'm not into dark fantasy" loves kingdom, vinland saga, and berserk.... ok two of those are more historical fiction than dark fantasy but they are epic and dark which are the two main components to dark fantasy.
I mean, you can't say no to Berserk.
You can enjoy something despite the genre, that's a hallmark of a masterpiece.
I mean Kingdom is a historical manga and is far from a fantasy manga but its dark as hell
I listen to the podcast on Spotify and RUclips interchangeably so imagine my surprise when I heard about the mugs on Spotify on episode 60. I have a mental image of a white or black mug with a purple logo, looks clean, simple. I open up the video today, fucking trash can. Brilliant.
That is not the mug though
With a cap lmao
Conner commenting on manga being released monthly.
Me immediately thinking of black butler monthly's chapters and D-gray man with 1 chapter every 4 months 😂