Nice to see the use of the engine trolley. Looked at your utube first and another half a dozen by others. None used the engine trolley and they were complaining of the need to use 3 hands to remove or refit parts. Firmly securing the lift cover to the trolley is a very good start to avoid it falling over and breaking parts.
Very Informative Video. I am about here in my own Vintage 1967 MF-135UK restoration project. I can't wait for the rebuilding video because it seems very complicated.
Another brilliant video....you can tell I've time on my hands at the moment. I stripped down a MF 240 lift cover recently, which came of a scraper tractor. The lift shaft was totally seized and took some heat and hammering to free it up. Stupidly I never took any photos and when I took it apart I never put any split pins in the shafts with the springs on them...When I unbolted that lot it ended up in a heap around my feet and took me ages to get it back together correctly when I went to fit it all back together...... Follow your nose just about summed it up for me.... a bit of engineering knowledge and trail and error wins in the end
@@BundyBearsShed Thanks for that link Lance, that will come in useful. I just finished watching the video on the front wheel bearings. When I came to do them on the 240 I discovered the seal housings had disappeared...probably due to being immersed in cowshit for years as a scraper tractor. Being Scottish, rather the buying new parts, I machined up some new housings and welded them in place and it did the job perfectly. I get a good feeling fixing up rather than buying new when I can, but am happy to spend cash where its needed. When It comes to doing more to it mechanically the manuals will be more than useful. It actually doesn't need much and managed to start first kick at -5DecC without heat, so the engine is sound. Keep them coming
Thanks for all the great video's hopefully on my massey 50 I won't have to much trouble with the 3pt . It's stuck in the upright position any suggestions?
G, Lance you got me how it works looks bloody complicated and adding to the fact what is buggered. Anyway I got a feeling that the segments on this will be very interesting so it might give a better idea of how the thing works, regards John
You can expect a few fumes and as engine wear gets worse it will get worse as well. Try an oil change and try and work it hard in case it is glazing uo a little.
Unfortunately not, I had a spare lift cover and it was way cheaper at the time to just drop it on rather than going to the expense of repairing my old one. I may have a 148 one coming up soon though.
Hey, I’ve got a MF135 with lift issues. It will lift fully with no attachment hooked up. But with weight from implements (bush hog or disc harrow) attached it is slow to lift IF it does lift at all. This is a new issue, have changed fluid(had water in it), fresh fluid had no change in lifting performance.
Bundy Bears Shed thank you for the reply! The top of pipe stand correct? If no O-ring that would indicate fluid is bypassing pump when under pressure instead of being sealed with O-ring?
Hello, I saw that you also undo the whole part with the adjustments to the hydraulic side (also the levers are actuated). Can you tell me how you made the adjustments as you put them in place? In my MF135 I can't manage to set it to work according to the user manual. At my MF135 it only works the lever on the outside and with those who torment me until I find a point where the machine from the straps to stay in the same position. It just goes up and down and when it reaches its maximum it has a strange noise as if it were snapping something at the hydraulic pump. If you can help me please with the steps you need to follow for a correct adjustment? Thank you
@@BundyBearsShed Thanks for the reply. But do you have a manual that explains their adjustment? I found something on the internet but it is not helpful. I found a video but it is in Serbian or Bulgarian and I do not understand exactly how this adjustment is made. if you have and can send me on sorcadanut@gmail.com. Thank you again
I really like your engine stand conversion to a lift cover rotisserie. I'm going to try to make one myself since I have an engine stand that's not busy. I'm wondering if you have the lift cover supported on the tail end that we can't see in the video. It seems a lot of weight to hang off the front three bolt holes of the cover. If there's no other support, is there any chance that the cover could break or crack at the front?
it is only on the side and no chance of it breaking as it is only reasonably light and the cast is quite thick. Thicker than most engine blocks weighing a lot more so Im sure it will be fine.
I’ve just taken the lift cover off a 175 I just bought. The lift arms were always in the up position unless tractor was shut off or clutch all the way in. After inspection, position control shaft (outer shaft) from the quadrant is broken right where it enters the lift cover. Draft control shaft (inner shaft) still moves fine. Will I be able to get both shafts out if I can’t wiggle the cam for the position control to get it out since it is broken off from the rest of the shaft?
@@BundyBearsShed , thank you sir! I hope there aren’t any adjustments I can screw up in the process! Your videos are great and helped me tremendously with my 230!
Lance, hope you are well. Your explanations are excellent. I took one of these 135 lift covers apart last march and just getting it all put back together. At 1 minute in this vid, you talk about putting split pins (cotter keys) in the draft and position link rods to take pressure off for disassembly. I can't remember if these had pins in them before hand or if those holes are just to aid in disassembly. So I guess my question... Do pins actually go in those two rods (on the other side of the slide through bracket) when assembled?
@@BundyBearsShed I've been fiddling with this for a couple days now because I couldn't find a picture clearly showing it. You have made my tomorrow much easier. You are fantastic. Can't wait to see how you adjust the position linkage. Thank you so very much!
@@BundyBearsShed We'll Mr Lance, that was exactly my problem. Took cover back off, pulled those cotter pins out and sat her back down. Bam! It now works, both draft and position controls. You are a wizard!
Lance I am from Africa and it is rare for mechanics to do what you are doing just work in the open to help everyone. My question is how do one carry out the necessary adjustments after rebuilding hydraulic pump and cylinder under the seat?
You never came back to us after 29.20 about that pin! Is some split-arsed swivel arrangement up in the roof where condensation lurks. I had to drill a hole in RHS to drift that draught control pin out of the position control hollow shaft to get the bastard assembly out. You got lucky, pal. PS, where is #48 video or did you lose some parts?
We never assembled one of these as I had a good used one on another tractor that I just sat on the tactor, it was way cheaper to go that way at the time.
Nice to see the use of the engine trolley. Looked at your utube first and another half a dozen by others. None used the engine trolley and they were complaining of the need to use 3 hands to remove or refit parts. Firmly securing the lift cover to the trolley is a very good start to avoid it falling over and breaking parts.
Yes the stands work really well and take the hard work out of it. I have adapter brackets made for all sorts of things now.
who needs a workshop manual when you got Lance on the job, can't beat experience. Many thanks Lance for great video's
Thanks 👍 glad you enjoy them.
Like the idea of short videos on each bit ,that will help explain the more detailed items .I'm ready for a beer after that one .Cheers Lance
Me too, lol.
Nice work Lance. That looked like a mammoth job mate. Looking forward to seeing you rebuild it 😀👍
Thanks John.
Very Informative Video. I am about here in my own Vintage 1967 MF-135UK restoration project. I can't wait for the rebuilding video because it seems very complicated.
Not too far away if I stop buying John Deere tractors to repair, lol.
Another great update Lance - you make it look so easy!
Thanks Charles.
Another brilliant video....you can tell I've time on my hands at the moment. I stripped down a MF 240 lift cover recently, which came of a scraper tractor. The lift shaft was totally seized and took some heat and hammering to free it up. Stupidly I never took any photos and when I took it apart I never put any split pins in the shafts with the springs on them...When I unbolted that lot it ended up in a heap around my feet and took me ages to get it back together correctly when I went to fit it all back together...... Follow your nose just about summed it up for me.... a bit of engineering knowledge and trail and error wins in the end
G Day Bill, There is a free workshop manual download on my web site here that might help. queenslandtractorspares.com.au/technical/
@@BundyBearsShed Thanks for that link Lance, that will come in useful. I just finished watching the video on the front wheel bearings. When I came to do them on the 240 I discovered the seal housings had disappeared...probably due to being immersed in cowshit for years as a scraper tractor. Being Scottish, rather the buying new parts, I machined up some new housings and welded them in place and it did the job perfectly. I get a good feeling fixing up rather than buying new when I can, but am happy to spend cash where its needed. When It comes to doing more to it mechanically the manuals will be more than useful. It actually doesn't need much and managed to start first kick at -5DecC without heat, so the engine is sound.
Keep them coming
Thanks for all the great video's hopefully on my massey 50 I won't have to much trouble with the 3pt . It's stuck in the upright position any suggestions?
Pull the rh side cover off and see if the control valve is moving.
My Mf165(1967)multipower , hydraulic pump has no relief valve at all? Is it normal? And thanks for the great videos!
I think it is in the valve but I will have to check. I know the pump has one built in but it may be for the aux hydraulics.
G, Lance you got me how it works looks bloody complicated and adding to the fact what is buggered. Anyway I got a feeling that the segments on this will be very interesting so it might give a better idea of how the thing works, regards John
Looks like a bag of worms eh? lol.
Lance loves adjustable wrenches.... Good info, THANKS!
You bet
Super vid..... I was trying to figure out how to remove the quadrant on my 35X.....
G Day David, Yours will be very similar apart from the pressure control items in this one.
I am seeing fumes coming from my Massey Ferguson 235 brother and when I remove the dipstick. What could be the possible cause ?
You can expect a few fumes and as engine wear gets worse it will get worse as well. Try an oil change and try and work it hard in case it is glazing uo a little.
Those lift arms came off easy. Still sluggin my 35x ones with a sledge and a gas torch, won't budge at all.
They can be tight alright, I have had to battle some as well.
Great video! Are there any videos of the reasembly?
Unfortunately not, I had a spare lift cover and it was way cheaper at the time to just drop it on rather than going to the expense of repairing my old one. I may have a 148 one coming up soon though.
@@BundyBearsShed ok, thx anyway! The whole series is great!
Hey, I’ve got a MF135 with lift issues. It will lift fully with no attachment hooked up. But with weight from implements (bush hog or disc harrow) attached it is slow to lift IF it does lift at all. This is a new issue, have changed fluid(had water in it), fresh fluid had no change in lifting performance.
check the o rings on the stand pipe, easy to do and cheap to fix.
Bundy Bears Shed thank you for the reply! The top of pipe stand correct? If no O-ring that would indicate fluid is bypassing pump when under pressure instead of being sealed with O-ring?
Hello,
I saw that you also undo the whole part with the adjustments to the hydraulic side (also the levers are actuated). Can you tell me how you made the adjustments as you put them in place? In my MF135 I can't manage to set it to work according to the user manual. At my MF135 it only works the lever on the outside and with those who torment me until I find a point where the machine from the straps to stay in the same position. It just goes up and down and when it reaches its maximum it has a strange noise as if it were snapping something at the hydraulic pump. If you can help me please with the steps you need to follow for a correct adjustment?
Thank you
I did not do that as I had one from another tractor to use.
@@BundyBearsShed Thanks for the reply.
But do you have a manual that explains their adjustment? I found something on the internet but it is not helpful. I found a video but it is in Serbian or Bulgarian and I do not understand exactly how this adjustment is made. if you have and can send me on sorcadanut@gmail.com.
Thank you again
@@ph13dll there is a free manual download on the technical pages of my web site www.queenslandtractorspares.com.au
Helpful and educational as always!
Thankyou
My 702 has the oblong plates on both sides of the lower arms they look original!
Ok there seems to be a lot of differences with these Fergy tractors.
That looked tricky taking it apart. It must be a nightmare to put it back
Can be very fiddly.
Buen trabajo gracias por mostrar 👍
You are welcome.
Do you have a video that walkthrough rebuilding the lift cover on the massey ferguson 135 I watch the one where you tear it down
No I fitted a used one I had as it was cheaper at the time.
@@BundyBearsShed ok thank you
I really like your engine stand conversion to a lift cover rotisserie. I'm going to try to make one myself since I have an engine stand that's not busy. I'm wondering if you have the lift cover supported on the tail end that we can't see in the video. It seems a lot of weight to hang off the front three bolt holes of the cover. If there's no other support, is there any chance that the cover could break or crack at the front?
it is only on the side and no chance of it breaking as it is only reasonably light and the cast is quite thick. Thicker than most engine blocks weighing a lot more so Im sure it will be fine.
I’ve just taken the lift cover off a 175 I just bought. The lift arms were always in the up position unless tractor was shut off or clutch all the way in. After inspection, position control shaft (outer shaft) from the quadrant is broken right where it enters the lift cover. Draft control shaft (inner shaft) still moves fine. Will I be able to get both shafts out if I can’t wiggle the cam for the position control to get it out since it is broken off from the rest of the shaft?
Yes I believe so.
@@BundyBearsShed , thank you sir! I hope there aren’t any adjustments I can screw up in the process! Your videos are great and helped me tremendously with my 230!
Lance, hope you are well. Your explanations are excellent. I took one of these 135 lift covers apart last march and just getting it all put back together. At 1 minute in this vid, you talk about putting split pins (cotter keys) in the draft and position link rods to take pressure off for disassembly. I can't remember if these had pins in them before hand or if those holes are just to aid in disassembly. So I guess my question... Do pins actually go in those two rods (on the other side of the slide through bracket) when assembled?
G Day Chris, The holes are there but normally there is nothing in them, they are to aid assembly like you mentioned.
@@BundyBearsShed I've been fiddling with this for a couple days now because I couldn't find a picture clearly showing it. You have made my tomorrow much easier. You are fantastic. Can't wait to see how you adjust the position linkage. Thank you so very much!
@@BundyBearsShed We'll Mr Lance, that was exactly my problem. Took cover back off, pulled those cotter pins out and sat her back down. Bam! It now works, both draft and position controls. You are a wizard!
Bloody beauty, thats what I like to hear, a good home repair job.
Lance I am from Africa and it is rare for mechanics to do what you are doing just work in the open to help everyone. My question is how do one carry out the necessary adjustments after rebuilding hydraulic pump and cylinder under the seat?
I dont do them often and I need to look up the manual, there is a free one on my web site.
You never came back to us after 29.20 about that pin! Is some split-arsed swivel arrangement up in the roof where condensation lurks. I had to drill a hole in RHS to drift that draught control pin out of the position control hollow shaft to get the bastard assembly out. You got lucky, pal. PS, where is #48 video or did you lose some parts?
We never assembled one of these as I had a good used one on another tractor that I just sat on the tactor, it was way cheaper to go that way at the time.
Would this be similar to a mf 35 tear down
Yes basically the same except for the pressure control items. The 35 will be a bit simpler.
Hi Lance this old girl has certainly had a rough time or has certainly done a lot of hours. Regards Charles.
G Day Charles, Yes it has not had much care, hopefully it will be a nice tractor when finished.
nice
Thanks Bill.
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