The Degtyaryov Machine Gun ( DP-27 / DP-28 )
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- An overview of the Degtyaryov Machine Gun as featured in many movies and video games.
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Movies Video Games Featured:
Liberation: The Last Assault 1971
Saga of Tanya the Evil 2019
Counterstrike 1985
Kalashnikov 2020
White Tiger 2012
Battery Number One 2015
T-34 (2019)
Tae Guk Gi 2004
World of Guns: Gun Disassembly
Tank Brigade 1955
1944 (2015)
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels 1998
71: Into the Fire 2010
Band of Brothers 2001
Rzhev 2019
Dneprovskiy rubezh (2009)
Hell Let Loose (Video Game)
Unknown Soldier 2017
Tankers 2018
Call of Duty: Vanguard (Video Game)
Rambo III 1988
#ww2 #guns #gun
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The reason for both names existing is that in the Soviet Union, weapons were named for the year they were tested, not adopted. In the west, weapons are frequently named for when they enter wide service. In this case, the DP was tested in 1927 and entered widespread service in 1928, hence the two names
This may not be always the case like in example of ppsh41, it was actually tested in 1940 and it’s very early low number production that went to the units was produced already by the end of 1940 (those guns differ slightly from later mass produced smgs, like they have an adjustable sight similar to ppd’s that actually goes to like 400m or even more i belive and some other minor changes). Gun was supposed to be called Ppsh40 but due to already existing Ppd40 it was decided to change the name to 41 in order to not spread any unnecessary confusion.
Aahhh
Same goes with AK-47 as it was put into wide service in 1948.
In contrast to that, MG-42 saw field testing in 1941, but was actually put into wide service in 1942.
Naming rights belongs to whoever actually creates the gun. The western name is a pointless imposition. Imagine articles and videos insisting the AK-47 should actually be called AK-49?? Insanity.
And one has a pistol grip and the other has a rifle grip
The flapper locking system on this gun is what helped me comprehend mechanical firearms engineering for the first time. Utterly simple, yet very effective. Truly the basis for all engineering solutions.
It took me a long time to understand the M16 mechanism. I'm like where the F is the piston?
One other point you missed, The DP-27 is still in use to this day, it has been spotted several times in Ukraine, typically used by sentries in trenches.
The smaller statured soldier is affectionately referred by Brandon Herrera as " Baby Techanka."
I saw a video of some guys in an engagement with a bmp and some infantry using one
يوجد لدي نسخه من هاذا السلاح في اليمن 🥰
“Damn, where’d you get that relic?”
“From under a lot of dead bodies”
"... they all looked surprised."
“Same joke every god damn time!”
In Finland the Degtyaryov is better known by the nickname "Emma". The nickname origins a 30's hit song and the record-like drum.
Corporal Mauno Koivisto (President of Finland 1982-1994) used "Emma" during the WW2. The weapon in question has an interesting history. It was hidden in the forrest in case the Soviets occupies Finland. The weapons cache was dismantled in 1991 when the Soviet Union ceased to exist. most of the equipment was destroyed, but the sitting president's weapon was put into a museum.
Finland thinking now: Welp that was a mistake
@@dragonstormdipro1013 Maybe we Finns are just renewing the weapons caches? That cache was in the ground for 47 years. The weapons were still in working condition but hopelessly outdated.
@@dragonstormdipro1013 They're the Fins. They probably have RPK-74s stashed away somewhere this time.
Finland keeps such good track of its guns, they have all the serial numbers of Simo's rifles, and a few are still missing to this day with a bounty by the finish government on their discovery.
@@dragonstormdipro1013 Finland has a fuckton of the rk62s stashed now instead along with some soviet origin weapons
“I never thought I’d have to say DP so many times.” 😏 unleashing your inner Brandon Herrera i see.
The DP-27 was also mounted on Lend Lease British Universal Carriers in Soviet Service too, as soon as the donated Bren Gun(s) ran out of .303 British ammo that is.
It was also fitted to several of China's Panzer I tanks. The Chinese Republic had imported a small number of Panzer Is but found their firepower to be a bit lacking, the primary weapon was twin MG-13 machine guns which each fed from 25 round boxes, suffice to say the DP/DT's pan magazines were a significant upgrade in capacity.
If memory serves, the Soviets made a belt feed conversion kit for the DP-28 as a developmental step to the RP-46. Ian of Forgotten Weapons has a video on it, if you're interested.
That’s sounds super cool
Yep and Stalins record player became Stalins cassette tape player.
More like Stalin's 8-track
It's also worth noting that the pan magazine wasn't really made from the best quality metal. It was prone to becoming dented if dropped or handled too roughly.
LMG!MOUNTED AND LOADED!
Channeling my inner Tachanka
I once saw a Finnish surplus dealer describe a DP by saying "it's impressive just how bad they managed to make the ergonomics." The RP-46 variation was a clever little upgrade as the belt feed mechanism just slots in to the normal magazine well, meaning the conversion can easily be applied or reversed on any DP.
лол, не финам критиковать ДП с их говно пулеметом ляхти )
I first saw this LMG in World at War but Tachanka made me love it
5 part, restored "Liberation" is available on RUclips in 4K with English subtitles on official Mosfilm channel. Even it's full of Soviet propaganda the production value and battles are epic.
Thanks for the heads up!
Is propaganda even effective if you know its propaganda?
So many tanks in this film - fantastic
In fairness most things are propaganda of some sort, depends what they say.
@@chardaskie you'd be surprised
Stalin's record player.
Stalin's organ.
The Chicago typewriter.
The Devil's paint brush.
Hitler's buzz saw.
The right arm of the free world.
The pig.
The grease gun.
Can anyone think of other nicknames for weapons?
This is a great idea for making a top 10 nick names video for WW2 weapons...
Can't forget "Ma Deuce". Others: The Burp Gun, The Potato Digger
@@yellowprime8491, the European Theater was a Bohemian Rhapsody.
Stalin's Sledgehammer for the B4 howitzer
The Mattel for the early M16 in Vietnam
Trench Gun for the Winchester Model 1987
Plastic Fantastic or Combat Tupperware for Glocks
Daddy for the PPSH
Thread Cutter for the VSS
PPSh-41 "Stalin's Banjo"
Lewis "Belgian Rattlesnake"
Taisho 92 "Woodpecker"
L96A1 "Green Meanie"
AK-47 "African Credit Card"
Thompson "Gangster Gun"
Firing a cannon inside an enclosed space is the last thing you might hear.
... *°huh?*
@@warpartyattheoutpost4987 *Whaat!?*
@@LazyLifeIFreak 🔫💣💥🔊👂
The clip of the Russians shooting the at gun in a subway hurt a bit knowing how much of a blast those guns have. Everyone around that gun would've been concussed from the sound in that narrow tunnel. They could've just launched a grenade in there lol.
I've seen it in "The misfit Brigade" (1987).
ooh yes, the one with David Patrick Kelly.
In finland it is knowns as Emma.
... Stone or Watson?
“Never thought I’d had to say DP so many times” …… Thanks Johnny, my coffee went through my nose and onto my phone. Not mad though. Well done.
Lol my bad...
I don’t get it
@@Sapphiregamer8605 double penetration.. what makes it more funny is he's showing a female solider when he says it. the humor was not lost on me
@@Sapphiregamer8605 I think they mean DP as in “double penetration”.
I've seen most of these movies, you picked some brilliant examples, well done.
Loving the inclusion of "71 into the fire" and "Tae Guk Gi".
Very good movies
me too 😂😂😂
I m gonna be dead by the time the m16 vid comes out
At least you are sticking with me until the end
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I'm staying here
Thank you for using both KG and LBS in your naration :D
Thanks for always including the movie titles shown!
Great video comrade! 😂
A key point of squad-level machine guns and infantry rifles sharing the same ammunition, as with the Mosin-Nagant and the DP-27, is not just logistics. In combat, if the machine gunner runs out of ammunition, his squadmates can help top off his weapon, and if a rifleman needs ammo, the gunner can dole out ammunition so the rifleman can stay in the fight.
FN Herstal went a step further and designed the Minimi (the M249 in US service) to accept magazines in addition to traditional belts to minimize downtime if riflemen ran out of magazines or if gunners ran out of belts. Instead of pulling cartridges from a belt to slap into a magazine, or pulling cartridges from a magazine to load into a belt, the gunner and riflemen could theoretically share the same pool. However, gunners have had issues when using mags in 249s instead of belts.
2:38, am I the only one who wants to know how the FU%# they manged to get a Anti Tank gun down there?
In the movie, the gun crew moved it down the stairs.
@@BHuang92... the real question is how are they gonna get it out?
@@warpartyattheoutpost4987
Find another stairs
Hold up that looks like a 57 mm Zis gun . Quite the beefy boi at 500 kilos . Hope it's not the 76mm zis
@@sherlocksinha2435
57mm do not have muzzle brake, this one does.
*Dinner-Plate 28!*
The plate, the record, the pancake, my 3rd favorite firearm
Something for the weekend..nice one Johnny..😊..E
Great video, Johnny. The DP-27/28 doesn't get attention like it should in movies. Glad to see newer movies actually having the DP-27 shown more commonly. I have to checkout some of those movies you listed here. Cheers!
All your videos are great👍
Could you do on on the 1903 Springfield?
Will do! But give me some time :)
Tankers is a cool movie. Found it by chance on youtube.
Tried googling DP, not the long barrel I was looking for
Yikes!
During the Winter War, Finnish troops were equipped with the highly accurate LS-26. Designed by Aimo Lahti, the undisputed weapons genius of Finland, it was unreliable and finicky on the field. One of Lahti's few failures in his career. Troops happily switched to captured DP-28s, which were reliable, rugged and much more suitable for the harsh conditions in Finland. Of course, as Finnish troops were equipped with the highly reliable and effective Suomi KP/-31 submachine guns, also designed by Lahti, they had no problems getting DP-28s. 😈
It wasn't that it actually had problems itself in the field. It was that the buffer assembly was meant to stay together & never be cleaned in the field. If a soldier did that, due to tight tolerances it was extremely easy to get a speck of dirt in & shut the gun down. I believe there were also problems with storage grease.
One further issue I think was one similar to other guns (the U.S. Marine Reising submachine gun for instance). Handfitted parts. Go swapping stuff out with other guns (for instance communal cleaning), and it will stop running.
@@gratefulguy4130 Yes! I also believe (according to Forgotten Weapons) that another issue was that Lahti was forced to use a recoil based system, rather than the gas based system he wanted to use. The Finnish military were skeptical about the long term reliability of a gas tap in the barrel. 🙄
Libaration is quite a intresting movie. Full version is like 7 hours long, and few other films match it in just sheer scale of depicted events - scens for battle of Kursk alone use like 300 tanks. Yes, it's propagandish, but well, it was made in Soviet union in 70's, that's kind of expected.
The music of death, a grand symphony,
Full of Stalinium
“You do not put dinner plate on table, you put dinner plate on machine gun!”
First an organ and now a record player? Stalin must really love his music....
The music this gun makes I would describe as apocalyptic and I love that about this weapon
Pizza Time
Good movies Johnny
I think engine gun db 27 until db 49 using bottom box by belt bullet thay more efesien and war fight german werchmact amy german soldier 😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍👍👍
This legacy gun is still shooting in Ukraine.
Also this is one my favorite Soviet era gun.
Next
Japanese heavy mgs
4:36 "DPs so many times" bro 🗿
Damn, 7 minutes ago, love your videos man
A bit late but keep up the good content johnny :)
It plays an amazing song
I suggest videos on the:
Double barreled shotgun
M16
Spas 12
Remington 870
Lee Enfield
P-90
Mp5
Didn't the Lufftwaffe use double barrels? That could be a neat video
@@ThommyofThenn Actually their shotgun is triple barrel, two shotgun barrel with extra barrel is small caliber rifle
@@myopickid4180 Still a double barreled *shotgun*
@@ThommyofThenn It was classifed as combination gun because the gun have two type of barrel - Rifle and smoothbore. Also, full name of Luftwaffe shotgun is M30 Luftwaffe Drilling ("Drilling" meaning "triplet") so double barrel shotgun is not accuracy term for it
Can you do a video on the Krag Jorgensen???
It’s all good, JJ.
Waiting for a video about the underrated RPK instead of the RPD
i think the rpk is the overratted one its litterally an ak
Others called that gun the Dishplate machine gun.
Thanks Comrade Johnny, catch ya on the next one.
Go on say it again. LOL
Hello Johnny. Do you know that the layout of the RP-46 Feed mechanism was implemented in a new belt fed mechanism for the DSHK-M variant and eventually in the AGS-17 Plamya ( Russian:-Fire/Flame) automatic grenade launcher.
You have promised me to do a video on M101 105mm Howitzer.
Probably the Machine Gun the Introduced me to the Pan Loaded Machine Gun... Yes... Not the Lewis Gun, this Product of Russian Engineering Introduced me to Pan Loaded Machine Guns, which in Turn Led me to Searching more about it... Discovering the Lewis Gun and the Vickers K and more... Stalin's Record Player certainly played its Part in the Cacophony of Chaos that is World War 2.
Keep up the Damn Fine and Amazing Work my Johnny!
Keep the Good Shit Coming, my Friend!
One finnish president (Mauno Koivisto) was user of this weapon during WW II he was sergeant in Lauri Törnis strike unit.
And this weapon is an op when comes to gaming including gun fight arena in roblox
LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED!! TIME TO GET SERIOUS!!!
Only kids who grow up with rainbow six siege will remember this gun.
Nahhhh this was the go to mg in world at war if you didn’t have the 1919
Hey Johnny. I want to know something? What videos did you delete from your Weapons of War--In the Movies playlist? There's an empty space after the FG 42 video and the Mare's Leg video. Which ones did you remove? What happened to them?
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq
Read my previous comment. It has the questions I wanted to ask you.
They should be all up. I've deleted and reposted a few videos over the months. If something is missing its likely up in a longer or edited format. I redid the Martini Henry recently for example.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq
Oh I understand. It's because I have been preoccupied by other priorities and haven't had a good window of time to watch your videos. When I saw the deleted videos, I thought that you were forced to remove them because of copyright and I missed a decent opportunity to watch some great content. Also, John. I want to tell you. I've been a subscriber and have notifications to let me know when you posted something. I'm an amateur history aficionado in case you're wondering. Your content is really good. Thanks for answering. You take care now, here. Talk to you another time, John.
Thanks so much! More to come 🙏
you should do the m1903a3 springfield sometime
My favourite LMG in world at war and in heroes and generals it was great shame in was not in bfv
Too bad no videos on Tachanka from Rainbow 6 🥲
Also knowned as "Dinner Plate" 27
i was waiting for this gun video ! yes!
If the MG-42 is Hitler's Buzzsaw, then the DP is Stalin's dinner plate.
I seen DP (such as DP-27, DP-28, and DPM) machine gun in ongoing wars such as Russo-Ukraine War and Syrian Civil War. Also in end of World War II during in Cold War-era such as Korean War where North Korea, China, and Soviet (including Russia) were carrying DP-27/DP-28/DPM and later, North Vietnam faction including Viet Cong were also used DP-27/DP-28/DPM during in Vietnam War.
A machine gun is still a machine gun.
DP-27 was also Finlands main lmg through WW2. For obvious reasons...
They have own light machine gun as well
@@sabriesabrie9971
Yeah. The Lahti lmg, but that wasn't rated as highly as the DP-27 by the Finnish forces.
@@Pikkabuu
Didn't know that but thanks for some awesome information 👍
Are you finnish because your name looks finnishish
Haha конечно подарки 🎁 that was a great joke not sure if you intended it.
So, as you were saying the soviets used belt feds as shown in films. The russian phrased "of course presents" as he handed him grenades too
great video comrade johnny
Weird place to see a DP-27 , was in Peaky Blinders in one episode Arthur shelby uses one in a Rampage against an unknown number of enemies ending with a Very IMPORTANT statement "You Do Not F#@* With The Peaky Blinders! "
Gevin the design the lewis gun should have similar nick name
Ah yes the plate gun as we used to call it
i call it "Dinner Plate" cuz its a plate magazine
Red Army give a way 1939-1944. Over 9000 unit’s ” donated”😘 so
🇫🇮own L/S-26 became substitute for the main issue.
2:40 What is this hilarious shit, they dragged a large anti tank gun down a subway
even with out the muzzle brake making it WAY WORSE, theyd still all be deaf
不错不错 another great video Johnny
Is it based off the Lewis gun, or is the pan magazine a coincidence
No, completely different internals and magazine.
The DP magazine uses a spring, the Lewis one is purely mechanical.
@@n.a.4292... pan's labyrinth?
back then i thought DP means Dish Plate because of the mag
Of the Silly Degtyarov
The Top Hat Society (A Multiversal Crime Syndicate Mercenary Organization) would love to invest in DP-27/28’s, as well as other types of guns from the 19th & 20th Century’s.
I want to point out the RP-46 in that cod clip is the wrong mode bc the RP-46 used a DPM with its extended pistol while the on in the clip was a normal DP-27
Or the diner plate
Dinner Plate
Basically Lewis machine gun with some vodka mix to it 😂😂
I've heard people call it the "dish pan" 🤣
I prefer the Chicago typewriter.
I always called it the “Dinner Plate 28”
At the start when there firing there guns in the air. Surely they must have to land haha
Can you do a video on the m14?
Will do! Just give me some time on that one
The dinner plate
This is exactly what my friend called it, the red dinner plate
60 rounds? I thought those double-height mags had more than ninety?
Anyone know where I can find a place to watch/buy Counterstrike 1985? Seeing all those ISU152s alone makes me want to see some authentic WW2 soviet vehicles on film like that you seldom see outside Soviet movies.
If you looked up "Kontrudar (1985)" You should find a few lower quality versions on youtube.
Johnys Johnson
All I see is the dinner plate
It is also called The Dinner plate
550 rounds a minute, however it could only hold 47 rounds which means the gun is only good for about five seconds and then you have to reload?? Sounds pretty useless to me, especially since you pointed out carrying the ammunition was complicated.
If you have never fought and do not know how to maintain the machine gun from which you shoot and how to do it correctly, then of course it is useless for you. Because I'll surprise you, but the rate of fire is far from what a machine gun always needs.