Soviet Submachine Gun - PPSh-41 In The Movies

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  • An overview of the PPSh-41 with popular war movie footage.
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    Movies Featured:
    Cross of Iron 1977
    The Mask 1994
    Stalingrad 1993
    Enemy at the Gates 2001
    The Pianist 2002
    Downfall 2004
    Tae Guk Gi 2004
    Tali-Ihantala 1944
    A Woman in Berlin 2008
    The Mummy 2008
    Defiance 2008
    Max Manus 2008
    Warsaw 44 2014
    Bridge of Spies 2015
    1944 - 2015
    The Unknown Soldier 2017
    The Death of Stalin 2017
    The Battle of Jangsari 2019
    Russian Movies:
    They Fought for Their Country 1975
    Come and See 1985
    Hitler’s Kaput! 2008
    The White Tiger 2012
    Stalingrad 2013
    Battle of Sevastopol 2015
    Panfilov’s 28 Men 2016
    Tankers 2018
    Soldatik 2019
    Kalashnikov 2020
    The Last Frontier 2020
    #guns #ww2 #warhistory

Комментарии • 712

  • @GhostEye31
    @GhostEye31 2 года назад +571

    I always forget that they actually had serious actors in the Command and Conquer games.

    • @griz312
      @griz312 2 года назад +48

      I was surprised to learn that Gina Carrano was the cover girl in Red Alert 3.

    • @MilkT0ast
      @MilkT0ast 2 года назад +45

      Tim curry was the best.
      SPPAYYYCEEEEE!

    • @Bluehawk2008
      @Bluehawk2008 2 года назад +21

      Serious actors, but not always serious acting.

    • @Ник-л1ь
      @Ник-л1ь 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/BOYBWZbSJpY/видео.html

    • @C_AVATAR
      @C_AVATAR 2 года назад +3

      Yep those were classic games!

  • @Paladin1873
    @Paladin1873 2 года назад +250

    A friend of mine had a PPSh-41 chambered to 9mm. It worked fine with the 35-round box magazine but jammed with the 71 round drum because the 9mm round is shorter than the 7.62x25. His solution was to cut a piece of Plexiglas to fit in the back of the drum. It acted as a spacer to push the rounds forward. Much to his delight it worked.

    • @imadrifter
      @imadrifter 2 года назад +7

      Plexi shim

    • @yoboikamil525
      @yoboikamil525 2 года назад +17

      That's such soviet engineering

    • @andrewgates8158
      @andrewgates8158 2 года назад +1

      Some guy converted his to 9mm win mag.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 2 года назад

      @@andrewgates8158 Good Lord, I'd be afraid to shoot that.

    • @andrewgates8158
      @andrewgates8158 2 года назад

      @@Paladin1873 could remember wrong. Could be 9x23 steyer. Still better than 9x19 luger

  • @speedyguydima
    @speedyguydima 2 года назад +526

    Good video! A few things to add:
    - Not only squads but entire companies were armed with automatic weapons. Every regiment had at least 1 fully automatic company, other units were given even more SMGs. By 1945, over half of the Soviet soldiers were equipped with fully automatic weapons.
    - Soviet soldiers were trained to fire in short bursts with the PPSh rather than spray and fire from the hip.
    - 7.62x25 allows for a faster muzzle velocity, further effective range and penetration potential than other pistol calibers at the time.
    - 7.62x25 was a lighter round than 9mm and .45ACP.
    - The PPD-34/40 was designed prior to Soviet experience with the KP31.
    - Drum magazines were improved in 1942.

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +73

      Some good clarification thank you!

    • @stevebrownrocks6376
      @stevebrownrocks6376 2 года назад +19

      Damn right! Also, German soldiers would ALWAYS use the PPSH-41 when they got their hands on one! 71 rds in a mag? YES! 💪🏼😃👍🏼

    • @jerrysmooth24
      @jerrysmooth24 2 года назад +15

      @@stevebrownrocks6376 you get the same if not more trigger time with mp40 32rnd stick because of slower rpm plus stick magazines are better usage of space that makes ammo lighter so you can actually carry more

    • @stevebrownrocks6376
      @stevebrownrocks6376 2 года назад +4

      @@jerrysmooth24 good points! 😎👍🏼

    • @jyrkikk
      @jyrkikk 2 года назад +20

      Once I shot russian TT -pistol in shooting range. Probably same cartridge was used in both TT -pistol and PPSH-41 (or "Papasha" as they called PPSH-41) . The russian slug penetrated 28 cm of pine blades. For comparison 38 cal. police revolver penetrates 15 cm and 357 -revolver penetrates 25 cm of pine blades. I know all that since I have shot all of them. So russians had very effective round in PPSH-41. Rudi Rafael

  • @user-oy9zy4ds9m
    @user-oy9zy4ds9m 2 года назад +615

    I can’t imagine being a German soldier being armed with a k98 facing entire platoons of ppsh41’s at close quarters…..

    • @lovepeace9727
      @lovepeace9727 2 года назад +87

      Then imagine facing an MG-42 as an Allies soldier..

    • @mjatriumxironreign8969
      @mjatriumxironreign8969 2 года назад +40

      Then facing semi auto garands when ur in A elite Waffen SS patrol And being armed with the Stg44 or g43 then u would have heavy pride the stg44 Has the same capacity as the bren gun and holds 10 more rounds then the bar and it have a higher firing rate the G43 is semi auto but not standard issue it has a 10 round magazine a advandage so facing A SS patrol in 1944 is kinda bad but u will be prepared cause the mg42 has to be mounted on a bipod

    • @mjatriumxironreign8969
      @mjatriumxironreign8969 2 года назад +4

      @@lovepeace9727 if u kill the gunner then u should be awarded for saving lives as it cant be fired when standing as it will make the gunner fall

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 2 года назад +17

      Imagine you have a stick grenade and so do your friends and war is not like in movies everyone rushing in.
      But I would still prefer to have a ppsh41 over a bolt action rifle in that situation for sure ;)

    • @patrickb1303
      @patrickb1303 2 года назад +10

      Sure you can. Just put your hand in the blender.

  • @AndrewTranBaseball
    @AndrewTranBaseball 2 года назад +456

    My grandfather was a Viet Minh soldier in the Indochina war, he used a variant of the PPSH made in Viet Nam called the K-50. He told me the magazines were so bad at the time that he and this comrades couldn't load all 71 rounds into the drums or 35 in the stick mags.

    • @memenadekhanh3992
      @memenadekhanh3992 Год назад +29

      The K50 is just Chinese PPSH converted to look like MAT49.

    • @Creeper_1783
      @Creeper_1783 Год назад +19

      @@memenadekhanh3992 that would be K50-M. K50 is just Chinese made PPSh with nothing really special about it

    • @scott-v8x
      @scott-v8x Год назад

      Good for you commy

    • @crypticreality8484
      @crypticreality8484 Год назад

      I used to stack fucks like your grandpa 5 ft high, and use them as sandbags.
      Just playing. A Gran Torino inspired statement

    • @plushproductions4811
      @plushproductions4811 Год назад +1

      Danggg, How was life on the Indochina Front? /genq

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 2 года назад +389

    It is along with the T-34, one of the most depicted symbols used in every Soviet war monuments.

    • @cactusmann5542
      @cactusmann5542 2 года назад +7

      Sad mosin noises. Sad AK noises,

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 2 года назад +5

      And unlike the T-34 was a really good weapon.

    • @agentbarron3945
      @agentbarron3945 2 года назад +30

      @@bingobongo1615 why make a tank last years when the most itll last in combat is less than a day? t-34 was an incredible tank simply because it was rather survivable and cheap as fuck to produce, especially since it didn't use a riveted hull and instead used a welded one. You cant call a t-34 trash without calling every tank the germans produced after the pz4 trash as well

    • @arcani695
      @arcani695 2 года назад +1

      The t-34 was quite ok, specially at the beggining it proved almost undestructible but it really was not that incredible

    • @arcani695
      @arcani695 2 года назад

      The panzer 3 is masterfull, better than the t-34. It was just made better. One thing people miss aboit tank combat os that you xan't just pull out some new trained crew oit of your ass. Zombie charges don't work on the long run with tanks.

  • @iceslice7776
    @iceslice7776 2 года назад +346

    My favorite gun of all time is the PPSH-41 for a reason. Its high rof, sleek robust design, and its history and use during the second world war and beyond. I love its sound and look of sleek wood and industrial metal. Thank you for makeing this video! Love your content!

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +20

      Thanks so much! It's a legend of a gun.

    • @FinnishUncleSam
      @FinnishUncleSam 2 года назад +10

      Great gun as long as u have magazines that fit properly to that gun in particular lol

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 2 года назад +1

      @@FinnishUncleSam or you hold it at an angle so the casings don't go down your shirt.

    • @FinnishUncleSam
      @FinnishUncleSam 2 года назад +6

      @@deezboyeed6764 The gun is giving the casings back to the soldier so he can give them back to the motherland so they can be used again

    • @stevovimy
      @stevovimy 2 года назад

      You're experience of this weapon is from a game isn't it? Lol

  • @walterbar3118
    @walterbar3118 2 года назад +118

    Fun fact: Many soviet soldiers liked the MP40 better, because ist was lighter, while many german soldiers prefered the PPSh-41, due to the higher reliability an magazine capacity.
    I guess, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

    • @chan13153
      @chan13153 2 года назад +5

      But PPS-42 was better than both

    • @gamerdrache6076
      @gamerdrache6076 2 года назад +1

      @@chan13153 mp43 was better than both of them

    • @chan13153
      @chan13153 2 года назад +8

      @@gamerdrache6076 True but that's an assault rifle while the others are SMGs

    • @gamerdrache6076
      @gamerdrache6076 2 года назад

      @@chan13153 i trought you would say ak 47

    • @chan13153
      @chan13153 2 года назад +10

      @@gamerdrache6076 AK47 isn't WW2 era weapon.

  • @tigermunky
    @tigermunky 2 года назад +46

    900 rounds per minute. That's 15 rounds per second. I can't even get my head around a mechanism moving that many times in a single second.

    • @meinkek7896
      @meinkek7896 Год назад +1

      Tighter spring = More ROF.
      Looser spring = less ROF

    • @NikoCigoj
      @NikoCigoj 7 месяцев назад

      Minigun is 3000-6000 bullets per minute. Now thats a real mind fuck if you ask me

  • @HollywoodMarine0351
    @HollywoodMarine0351 2 года назад +171

    Dude… you definitely have a knack keeping us informed, entertained with historical facts and movie clips. Keep them coming Johnny! 🍻

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy 2 года назад +39

    I once saw a PPSh-41 that a reenactor was carrying during a display show. It only had a few working parts which is ideal for a conscript who doesn't have much time for training. As I understand Russian doctrine regarding weapons they have to be simple to the point where it isn't necessary to give months of training to learn how to handle. Weapons like the AK-series and the RPG are often found across the world being used by armies or guerrillas with little or no training.

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster 2 года назад +5

      they're also more durable in harsh environments

    • @schizoidboy
      @schizoidboy 2 года назад +2

      @Old PC Gaming Very good point. The British used the Sten gun which was often mocked for it's design such as the "Plummer's Delight" because it looked like it was assembled from bits of pipe. Nevertheless, it functioned well enough and was easily made and distributed. And it could even be made by Resistance fighters in bicycle shops. It still finds its way everywhere including Northern Ireland and even one time in America. I remember a so-called attempt of Neo-Nazi uprising where the news report showed disassembled Sten gun parts.

    • @honzabalak3462
      @honzabalak3462 2 года назад +4

      @@schizoidboy Imagine how much better the Sten would be with a permanently welded vertical magwell. Preferably a bit longer one as well.
      It would help with the balance of the gun and the longer fixed magwell would also give the shooter a good place to hold the gun without causing feeding issues.
      The Germans figured it out at the end of WW2 and actually manufactured such Stwn copies. It's weird the Brits never thought of that. It's an upgrade which wouldn't raise the material or production time requirements but it would significantly improve the gun.

  • @robertlavery6896
    @robertlavery6896 2 года назад +40

    Ron Pearlman, playing a russian, with an English accent.
    Just beautiful.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад

      Puts me in mind of Allo Allo... with wonderful faux French accents....or are they...???

    • @notarealAlbanian
      @notarealAlbanian 2 месяца назад

      he did horribly depict the person his character was, though mostly the fault of the writers he was a real guy.

  • @indigofoxtrot5111
    @indigofoxtrot5111 2 года назад +49

    One of the advantages of the PPSH-41 was that the drum magazine allowed the user to fire from a completely prone position, something that wasn't practical with the MP38 / MP40 due to the length of the magazine. The MP38 / MP40 were designed to be fired from a crouching position behind cover, hence the characteristic "hook" under the muzzle to help steady them.

    • @mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520
      @mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520 Год назад +1

      Owen gun was good firing from
      Prone position as well, it was used right up into the Vietnam war

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 2 года назад +24

    There was a diary written by a German soldier who was killed at Stalingrad. It was captured and one of the Soviet Russian generals who fought at Stalingrad used excerpt in his autobiography. According to the Soviet Russian general the German soldier kept mentioning a heavy use of Tommy Guns by the Germans when they were attacking the Soviet Russians. There is a problem here in that the Germans did not call their submachineguns Tommy Guns. But the Soviet Russians did. This has now thrown this autobiography into disrepute because it means information used in it is untrue.

    • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
      @jerryjeromehawkins1712 Год назад +1

      A Russian lying?? I'm shocked!! 🤯

    • @Duvumvirat
      @Duvumvirat Год назад

      a. Russians also dont call our PPSh "Tommy Guns"
      b. Quite a bunch of an actual Tommies were imported by the land-lease program, most of the currently existing ones are looted from the old soviet stockpiles, as they were preserved in case of another war

    • @meinkek7896
      @meinkek7896 Год назад

      Could be one of lost history that doesn't fit the mainstream narrative. Look at dresden bombing. All buildings are gone except trees and roads. No crater in sight. world war 2 could be a different story altogether

  • @HR-ki3yo
    @HR-ki3yo 2 года назад +21

    My grandfather in the 1950s-60s in training in Poland was show how to use the PPSh-41. Apparently, the soldiers didn't believe the instructor about the rate of fire of the weapon. Thye thought it couldn't fire that fast the barrel would overheat too fast.

  • @rolfagten857
    @rolfagten857 2 года назад +23

    Things were always much more intense on the Eastern Front! Cool that ""Cross of Iron" (1977) & "Stalingrad" (1993) are impressive war movies. Well done Johnny.

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +6

      Two of my favorites! Had to be in there

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад +4

      I remember Cross of Iron,watched it in Fort William, many years ago...E

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnnyJohnsonEsq that same week in Fort William watched Carry on up the Khyber...apart from ascending Ben Nevis...not a lot to do as a bored youngster..

  • @trooperdgb9722
    @trooperdgb9722 2 года назад +52

    Probably important to note that OTHER problems with the drums were carrying them...bulky and awkward... and even if you had a drum or two that worked well on ONE PPsh, there was no expectation that they would work on another. Word has it you found drums that worked on yours and hung on to them...

    • @reynaldoflores4522
      @reynaldoflores4522 2 года назад

      It would be very cumbersome to have to reload those drums while in combat.
      And they're so bulky and heavy, you can't carry too many of them with you.
      After a few seconds of firing, the drum goes empty and you have a useless firearm.

    • @Chuked
      @Chuked 2 года назад +2

      @@reynaldoflores4522 the drum might have been less common than we think, they probably used more magazines which are way more efficient

    • @DerDrecksack87
      @DerDrecksack87 2 года назад +8

      @@Chuked they used a mix especially near the end of ww2, usually u had a drum in the gun and a few mags, the drum gives you a huge edge if u get the jump on an enemy patrol because usually who can put more rounds in the enemy direction faster, wins the engagement. So in the first few seconds u could be almost sure that you will outshoot/supress the enemy, this has been so ever since, sadly most drum mags even for modern weapons still suffer with reliability issues, same goes for the double feed 60 rounder mags, i think this will only be doable if some revolutionary new firearm technology gets implemented especially regarding ammo.

    • @topivaltanen4432
      @topivaltanen4432 Год назад

      @@reynaldoflores4522 When Viljam Pylkäs killed 83 soviet soldiers attacking group alone other soldier was reloading drum magazines.

    • @pedestrianrights1257
      @pedestrianrights1257 5 месяцев назад

      yup, junk quality control of the Soviet Union.

  • @hydroxide5507
    @hydroxide5507 2 года назад +11

    you should have mentioned the kalashinikov concern test where they fire a few thousand rounds off an actual ww2 ppsh41 and it doesnt fail once or even burn

  • @The_Republic_of_Ireland
    @The_Republic_of_Ireland 2 года назад +15

    Man you have to cover the Mosin Nagant and Kar98k

  • @nostradamusofgames5508
    @nostradamusofgames5508 2 года назад +8

    fact- "Pah pah shah" is the best way to say it

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +3

      Absolutely but my accent wouldn't do it justice

    • @BHuang92
      @BHuang92 2 года назад

      Westerners have a particular way of saying it as the PPSH while the Russians say it as "Pah pah shah".

    • @nostradamusofgames5508
      @nostradamusofgames5508 2 года назад

      @@JohnnyJohnsonEsq dont need no accent, mate. :p

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 2 года назад +6

    A few things ...
    First off one of the problems with using enemy weapons is that they all make a distinctive sound - and if you fire an enemy weapon - you stand a real chance of drawing fire from your own side. This was the main reason that the Americans didn't all pick up every MG-42 they came across. Of course the other thing is ammunition supply. The Germans had captured a LOT of Soviet stuff though so - they made use of it.
    The thing with the PPSh-41's would be that the Germans used so many of them - that sound might not have automatically triggered an assumption that the person firing it was Soviet.
    As to how great all these SMG's were ... think about it - 200 yards? That really isn't much and that is like the _maximum_ range. SMG's were deadly at close range - but you had to get to close range or they were useless.
    Here - one thing the Soviets did was have SMG units ride on the backs of tanks charging into an enemy position. Then - once inside the enemy position - they'd jump off and engage the enemy at close quarters. That worked really well - when it worked. When it didn't work - you had a lot of dead infantry and blown up tanks.
    .

  • @LegendaryKazooMann1936
    @LegendaryKazooMann1936 2 года назад +71

    Proud to have an airsoft version of this gun.
    The people I play with usually have the genaric m4s and stuff but it's definitely neat running around with a 10 pound Russian hunk of stamped steel and furniture :D
    I even wrote an essay about the PPSH-41 for my graduateing essay in Middle School of "an invention that changed the world".
    Nice video👍

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +10

      Thanks brother. That would be a very fun airsoft weapon to have!

    • @FinnishUncleSam
      @FinnishUncleSam 2 года назад +4

      I also have one. Made by Ares. It's hella fun especially on outdoor skirmishes.

    • @LegendaryKazooMann1936
      @LegendaryKazooMann1936 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Indeed it is! :)

    • @stevovimy
      @stevovimy 2 года назад

      Larper.

    • @LegendaryKazooMann1936
      @LegendaryKazooMann1936 2 года назад +3

      @@stevovimy So you'd rather me shoot my friends with a real one? 😆
      I'd rather not ;)

  • @garrisonnichols807
    @garrisonnichols807 2 года назад +37

    I find it historically inaccurate to see an average German infantry soldier with an MP40 in pretty much every Hollywood WW2 movie I've seen. The German squad tactics of the time emphasized the MG-34 and MG-42 general purpose machine guns as the main weapon ment that in the squad most German soldiers were ammunition carriers for the machine gun. They were all issued Mauser K98 bolt action rifles. The machine gunner and loader were issued a PO8 Luger or Walther P38 pistol and the squad leader was the only one to have a MP40 sub machine gun.
    What this ment was in close combat like in villages or towns the Germans were actually at a major disadvantage against Russian troops if the machine gun was lost or destroyed because most of your guys had 5 shot bolt action rifles going up against Russian soldiers armed mostly with PPSh 41 submachine guns. This is why the tactical roles in the German squads changed. More semiautomatic rifles and the Strumgewehr were created to solve problems in fire superiority against the Soviet Red Army where entire divisions were mostly made of soldiers with submachine guns.

    • @МихаилЧерников-п2т
      @МихаилЧерников-п2т 2 года назад +5

      Not all soviet soldiers were armed with ppsh, 2 men in squad had them, unless they are part of avtomatchik units

    • @UgandanAirForce
      @UgandanAirForce 2 года назад +9

      @@МихаилЧерников-п2т if both Germans and Russians had 4 squads per platoon and Germany only issued submachine guns to squad leaders while the Russians had 2 submachineguns per squad, then the Russian platoon would still have two times the submachineguns compared to the German platoon which is a fair difference in firepower.

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 2 года назад +5

      You are mostly right I would say but people often forget that close quarter fighting was really a matter of grenades.
      Sure I would prefer to have a ppsh 41 with my grenades over a mauser and some grenades in urban fighting but the German infantry was not inefficient in urban combat.

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 2 года назад +3

      My granddad served in German units at first (later in Soviet units) and said he never saw any MP40 in the real life. Only in the movies later. He was given a simple but accurate riffle and that was all.

  • @Stripedbottom
    @Stripedbottom 2 года назад +5

    I'm glad that this video doesn't go with the old erroneous myth "The PPSh was copied from the Suomi!" The PPD-40 was designed already in 1934, years before the Soviets had a chance to capture a single Suomi to copy from. (The drum magazine was copied from the Suomi, however.) The reason why the weapons look outwardly similar is, of course, that they were both based (or should I say "copied" here? Is it politically correct?) on the Bergmann MP of WW1 vintage. After their experience of the Winter War, The Soviets were also quick to latch on (or copy?) to the idea that SMG's were very useful in close quarters frontline combat, and should be issued to regular frontline units en masse and not just specialist troops. The fact that they had actually faced pitifully few of them (only about 4000 Suomi's deployed against dozens of Soviet divisions) is a testament to what good use the Finnish troops must have put them during that short conflict. And, the circle closes nicely when later on in the war the Finns just as everybody else realizes that as good as the Suomi is, it's simply too expensive and time-consuming to manufacture - and so their next SMG is a copy of the PPSh-43.

  • @Bigcat726
    @Bigcat726 2 года назад +46

    Under rated gun to talk about for the Soviets is the SVT-40

  • @Robert53area
    @Robert53area 2 года назад +9

    Молодец, отличная информация.
    You forgot the pps43 the final answer to the ppsh41. I built my own ppsh41, wasn't hard, probably the most simplistic design possible

  • @erwinisme157
    @erwinisme157 2 года назад +4

    the ppsh had the same dilemma in media, for being in animated films more often, because animating bolt action rifle were hard, but unlike its german counter part the mp 40, its more believable if you consider the fact, that it is the most produced submachine gun of ww2.

  • @talbotsplace7316
    @talbotsplace7316 2 года назад +18

    I grabbed a PPsH out of a commie base camp in Mozambique. I loved it but loading that drum mag was a pain. It was supposed to hold 71 shots but I could only get 60 in it. Sadly, when I got back to camp, the bloody MPs stole it. I kept the sling though, and used it to hold my bass guitar for many years.

  • @thomascarpenter5673
    @thomascarpenter5673 2 года назад +8

    another amazing video, quick and to the point but still goes in depth enough to surprise me. keep up the amazing work and looking forward to more videos from you

  • @redviking1178
    @redviking1178 2 года назад +3

    As a Russian, I still do not understand why it is generally accepted that when creating the PPSh, Soviet designers were inspired by the Finnish Suomi? In the USSR, submachine guns have been produced since the end of the 20s. Before the well-known PPD-40, there was PPD-34/38, for which a disk magazine was developed. The disk magazine was developed, as the experience of the war in Spain showed that 25 rounds in the PPD-34 magazine were not enough. PPD-40 and PPSh-41 were not produced because the Soviets liked the Finnish version.

    • @krocodilepiss
      @krocodilepiss 2 года назад +1

      Probably because out of the soviet smg:s the ppsh41 is the most widely known weapon and it came into service after the very similar looking kp-31

    • @redviking1178
      @redviking1178 2 года назад +3

      @@krocodilepiss Well, you know, just because it looks like it doesn't mean it's a copy. With such success, we can say the sten submachine gun is a copy of the MP-28, simply because the clip is horizontally on the left

    • @krocodilepiss
      @krocodilepiss 2 года назад +1

      @@redviking1178 I know that the soviets didnt copy the kp-31, Im just saying that the reason people most likely think they did is because they look similar and the kp is older than the ppsh....

    • @Mr1337NAB
      @Mr1337NAB 2 года назад +3

      As I have understood it, the soviet military at the time (before 1939 winter war with Finns), did not regard submachine guns as useful and only as a curiosity. Hence the large numbers of rifle divisions. When the Finns used the guns with great success in the dense forests and in small raiding parties they began to take note that maybe there is something to it. So they started making their own designs and tactics for it.

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for clarifying. That's exactly what I was trying to suggest.

  • @TheScottiem303
    @TheScottiem303 Год назад +2

    My dad literally had one of these when I was a kid growing up. My grandad took it off the enemy, by hand, in the Korean War. He eventually became a “full-blown” Colonel. The gun was kept under my parents bed, until my dad was worried about the legality of possessing it - so he gave it away to a firearms enthusiast. Wish I had it today. I have many memories of trying to level it off, imagining unloading a drum. 😅

  • @bubsterjohnson7438
    @bubsterjohnson7438 2 года назад +6

    Another gun I fell in love with after playing COD WAW when I was real young lol that gun and the FG-42 and the Winchester Model 1897 are prolly some of the coolest guns in my shitty lil opinion lol

  • @youngmasterzhi
    @youngmasterzhi Год назад +6

    The PPSH-41 was also colloquially known as "Papasha" (meaning "daddy") by the Soviet soldiers.

    • @gyrfalcon-6
      @gyrfalcon-6 Год назад

      I was looking for this comment I have a Russian friend who always corrects me

  • @abumuslimal-asiani2066
    @abumuslimal-asiani2066 7 месяцев назад +2

    basically mg42 but chambered with 9mm
    even in most ww2 fps games, ppsh-41 are usually very OP due to high rate of fire

  • @wilwad
    @wilwad 2 года назад +2

    I've heard the locals here talk about that gun. They were trained in the USSR. They say Pepesha

  • @David-wp2iw
    @David-wp2iw 2 года назад +2

    fun fact, pronunciation in russian ppsh corelates to word papasha, which means dad in informal way. So everyone calling it dad instead of ppsh

  • @drudgenemo7030
    @drudgenemo7030 2 года назад +4

    The PPSh was chambered in 7.62 Tokerov.
    Essentially 7.63 Mauser +P.
    So the Germans could use readily available and domestically produced ammo for it, not just captured ammo, and did not have to convert it to 9 parabellum, though that was more standard in the heer.
    Interesting thought.
    The M1/M2 carbine was more powerful, longer range, more accurate, produced in similar numbers, and with it's lower rate of fire, had as much trigger time per 30 round magazine as the PPSh with it's 70 round drum, at 2/3s the weight empty.
    The PPSh was better in -20C weather, but that's not always the case, even in Russia.
    And the Marines lobbied the Army to standardize on it in exclusion to any other submachine gun design during WW2.

    • @187Rajah
      @187Rajah 2 года назад

      Tokerov?.. TokArEv!

  • @dayton8282
    @dayton8282 2 года назад +4

    Forgot about the rare K-50m variant of this gun! That’s a cool unicorn in the collector market

  • @melissapalaganas95
    @melissapalaganas95 2 года назад +3

    Finally i have been waiting for PPSH 41

  • @iowa_lot_to_travel9471
    @iowa_lot_to_travel9471 2 года назад +4

    Papa sha 41: 6 million made in ww2. By Tula? And others
    M1 carbine: 6 million made by 10 different companies. Including an auto maker, a juke box company, maker of typewriter and others
    Both iconic no matter what. But the closest i will come is a CZ scorpion evo with a binary trigger. 😅😅
    It even received praise from then Captain Hal Moore in Korea
    You've earned my sub sir. 💪💪👍👍

  • @mister-v-3086
    @mister-v-3086 2 года назад +5

    I'm in my 70s, now, and only recently learned to pronounce the name of this gun as PaPa Sha 41. In Russian usage, the SH sound is considered as its own, unique character.

    • @vasiliynikiforov1976
      @vasiliynikiforov1976 2 года назад +1

      One more fact for you. PePeSha, or better PaePaeSha. Papasha is "daddy" and its nickname.

    • @mister-v-3086
      @mister-v-3086 Год назад

      Spaciba, tovarich.@@vasiliynikiforov1976

  • @shawndavis5452
    @shawndavis5452 2 года назад +1

    I just found your channel and I want to say thank you, I'm always searching for weapons/history based videos and I have so much respect for the youtubers who spend there time and energy creating these types of videos. I appreciate everything you do, thank you!

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much Shawn. It's just amateur fun for me so take everything as an introduction and always proof everything you hear on RUclips but I hope to be unbiased and entertaining 🙏

    • @shawndavis5452
      @shawndavis5452 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I just know that it take time and effort to make these types of videos and there is a big community on youtube who love them, it's just nice to see a youtuber who is actually entertaining/informative with there videos. I look forward to future videos man you got a sub here!

  • @drunkstepdadproductions7857
    @drunkstepdadproductions7857 2 года назад +3

    why do I always call this the commie tommy because it has a drum mag like a tommy and it's a soviet gun

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 2 года назад +1

    Thank-you for listing the movies!

  • @peterpaszczak4013
    @peterpaszczak4013 2 года назад +1

    I knew a WW2 Wermacht vet, more than forty yrs ago, who served in Vlasovs' army, served in France, N Italy, Warsaw AO , was a leutnant in cavarly reconnaisance and did his cavalry training at a some prestigious riding school in Austria, I wish I could remember the name, he finishing up in Yugoslavia against partisans (both ) surrendering to the Allies and ended up in Klagenfurt as a POW... anyway he told me that the PPsh was really favoured by German troops for it's reliability and accuracy, its use was frowned upon by more senior officers, and as you have more than adequately pointed out previously could be dangerous in close combat as it could be confused as a Russian offense .. he referred to it as a Pep esh ka, which is just a variation of all the names we have heard previously, or was just his own native variation of the Russian original.
    He said it had a very distinctive sound, entirely different from any German weapon and highly favoured.

  • @jirikajzar3247
    @jirikajzar3247 2 года назад +2

    Well about simplicity, although it was simplier than PPD-40 it was still not as simple as PPS-42 and 43, which are more of a typical simple WW2 smg with box magazine only, minimum wood parts, simple sights, etc.
    7.62x25 Tokarev is more of a carabine round than pistol one (since it evolved from 7.63x25 Borchardt and Mauser round, both C93 and C96 were much more useful when used with buttstock as carabines than pistols) and from what i know Soviets adopted it only because it wasn't too different from rifle rounds so manufacturing it didn't required too different machinery. It had lot of penetrative power but im not so sure about stopping power. In any way 9mm Luger is still standard round in NATO armies while 7.62mm Tokarev was replaced by 9mm round from Makarov...

    • @danielwordsworth1843
      @danielwordsworth1843 2 года назад

      I would say they gone for Makarov, because with AK being being spread as it was, there was no need for pistol amunition to be that strong, asnit would overlap with AK effecrive distance
      also, Makarov amunition was developed along the pistol, which emphasized compact size and concealment

    • @jirikajzar3247
      @jirikajzar3247 2 года назад +1

      @@danielwordsworth1843 I think they found out 7.62x25 is over the top cartridge for service pistol. Makarov's design was copying Walther and used rounds directly influenced by 9x19 Parabellum.
      I would like to add reason why Soviets adopted 7.62x25. It was due to C-96 being pretty common weapon among Tsarist officers as it was one of several designs they were allowed to purchase and use as their service weapon, and due to the post WWI trade with Weimar republic that sold them many C-96 "Bolo's" along with tooling to make ammo.

  • @hanoitripper1809
    @hanoitripper1809 8 дней назад +1

    Great vid lots of research and editing 👏

  • @russwoodward8251
    @russwoodward8251 2 месяца назад +1

    I appreciate the video. Nice overview.

  • @vanjamirkovic8996
    @vanjamirkovic8996 Год назад +1

    i just love how he put you know this one on enemy at the gates

  • @Gunbudder
    @Gunbudder Год назад +1

    you can tell if someone is a huge gun nerd when they use the Russian pronunciation of the letters п (p) and ш (sh). i love that the acronym in russian is also a pun because saying letters in russian (pa-pa-shaw) sounds like the word for "papa."

  • @shinkoreancookery952
    @shinkoreancookery952 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for making another video on great WW2 guns 🤟🤟

  • @timmccunn2754
    @timmccunn2754 2 года назад +4

    Wow, Johnny, a comprehensive history lesson PLUS movie lesson...dude, you're a rock star!
    Keep 'em coming bro....👍😁📽
    Ya reckon ya might be onto a good thing with this channel of yours my friend?...

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад

      Seems to keep the viewers coming so far :) Thanks for the feed back Tim

    • @timmccunn2754
      @timmccunn2754 2 года назад

      @@JohnnyJohnsonEsq pleasure bud...thanks for the enlightening posts, very cool 👍👍

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад

      Quite agree Tim..

  • @BNVodkaFPS
    @BNVodkaFPS 2 года назад +5

    That drum mag is deadly, have tried it once, heavy but when shooting it's quite stable, could work like a LMG

  • @timo191
    @timo191 2 года назад +3

    Best line about this gun was in the TV show MASH. Radar -"Isn't that the Russian machine gun that shoots 900 corporals a minute?"

  • @spencervandyke1552
    @spencervandyke1552 2 года назад +2

    You’re great for movie suggestions.

  • @sonrouge
    @sonrouge Год назад +1

    I got to hold a legitimate PPsh at a gun show once. It was heavy and awkward with the drum, but I'd have hated to have been on the other end of one in battle.

  • @fasiapulekaufusi6632
    @fasiapulekaufusi6632 2 года назад +1

    Even though the Soviet union didn't take over Finland, Finland lost about 5 percent of it's land in that war to Russia.

  • @napiersh1
    @napiersh1 2 года назад +1

    The clips from command and conquer were a nice touch.

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier97 Год назад +1

    The Unknown Soldier is a great movie. Lots of great submachine gun moments there.

  • @EscanV
    @EscanV 2 года назад +2

    I LOVE your channel bud! great content! as a history buff this is my go to! thanks man

  • @saboter123
    @saboter123 2 года назад +3

    Nice video, but you make the same mistake as 99% of people from English speaking countries. It's the Pistolet Pulemyot Shpagina (Shpagin's machine pistol). Therefore it's correctly pronounced P-P-Sh, unlike almost everyone's P-P-S-H. Try saying "I shot the sharp shapes in the bushes by the shed with my Papasha"

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад

      You're fair to point this out. I don't have a very dexterous tongue so I went for the lazy way. I'll work on it for future videos 🙏

  • @5534I
    @5534I 2 года назад +1

    Keep up the good work! Your videos are super entertaining and informing!
    Greetings from Finland.

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! Much love and respect for the Finnish people and their history.

  • @carlorrman8769
    @carlorrman8769 2 года назад +4

    Hi mate, great show. I didn't know the ppsh 41 was based on the finnish kp 31. Well done, man always enjoy.

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +9

      Sorry I didn't overly explain that well. The KP 31 just showed the soviets they desperately needed to up SMG production of their own.

    • @wtfronsson
      @wtfronsson 2 года назад +7

      Not really based on the KP. Although the KP blueprints were stolen and taken to Russia by a spy. The internals are still quite different. It's the drum magazine that was essentially copied as is.

    • @VPortho
      @VPortho 2 года назад +1

      @@wtfronsson Yeah, they just look almost the same, but that's about it... There's not many similarities between them technically speaking

  • @anisolo07
    @anisolo07 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video! Full of movie references to check out... Did not know about most of them till i saw this...

  • @jackstecker5796
    @jackstecker5796 2 года назад +4

    I've actually seen one captured in Iraq, modified with an EOTech red dot and surefire integrated vertical forward grip and weapon mounted light.

    • @TurtleGamers1
      @TurtleGamers1 2 года назад +3

      Are you sure you didn't just find a Call of Duty Vanguard weapon?

  • @davidmoss2576
    @davidmoss2576 2 года назад +1

    Submachine gun makes sense in urban warfare but many storm the beach with a pistol caliber gun is insane to me.

  • @thaddeusroberts2393
    @thaddeusroberts2393 2 года назад +1

    Discard a K-98 for a PPSh-41?
    That describes half the time I spent playing COD World at War.

  • @mdsf01
    @mdsf01 2 года назад +2

    Steiner!!!!
    Couldn't help it.... favorite WW2 movie 😊

  • @masterbuilderproductions
    @masterbuilderproductions 2 года назад +2

    M97 trench gun!!! There’s one in the thin red line, and trench 11.

  • @glocksp80smd
    @glocksp80smd Месяц назад

    Funny how movies make select fire guns last so long like they have a magazine longer then a bus 😂

  • @DocM.
    @DocM. 2 года назад +1

    I love your videos! I love the history, lessons, commentary, and humor, but also I have to keep pausing to write down in my "Movies To Watch" list 😂

  • @H3K7iC
    @H3K7iC 2 года назад +1

    Damn , I didn't know DJ Vlad commented on weapons in movies. 10/10

  • @outdoorfreedom9778
    @outdoorfreedom9778 2 года назад +4

    When I watch the Russian teams digging in the swamps and the pull up the 41s still looking good I get excited and can only wish! Even if it is only a wall hanger I would love to have one!!

  • @ChrisM-bn5vr
    @ChrisM-bn5vr Год назад +1

    Why does the movie at 3:59 say "You know this one" in the corner? Kind of annoying you expect everyone must have seen this movie and will recognize it, would have been nice if you just listed the movie like the others, now I've got to try and figure out what it is by googling quotes from this scene because it looks interesting and I want to watch it.

  • @TheEagle2018
    @TheEagle2018 2 года назад +1

    I REQUESTED THIS VIDEO THANKS!

  • @kommandantfury
    @kommandantfury 2 года назад +2

    Nice, another video about a submachine gun. pog

  • @orange8420
    @orange8420 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for make it waiting for next video

  • @jamesmortimer4016
    @jamesmortimer4016 2 года назад +1

    It´s weight is what gives the PPSH it´s controlability and 7,62x25 isn´t really a BIG round. It´s a fast one, capable of penetrating any helmet used durring the war. It wont throw a man back like a .45, but the small holes you üpoke into your target with it will make any man collapse

  • @beckdogg222000
    @beckdogg222000 2 года назад +1

    Great videos, and a great source of great movies.

  • @NapoleonBonaparte05
    @NapoleonBonaparte05 2 года назад +1

    3:55 HAHA yes we all know our favourite soviet sniper movie. Enemy at gates will always be a classic

  • @pressedsteel7463
    @pressedsteel7463 2 года назад +1

    this is the kind of content I enjoy.

  • @theflavorblue
    @theflavorblue Год назад

    Thank you for mentioning the ppd such a cool gun

  • @filipeamaral216
    @filipeamaral216 2 года назад +3

    Loved to see the Red Alert 3 clips!

    • @JohnnyJohnsonEsq
      @JohnnyJohnsonEsq  2 года назад +3

      Main objective of this video: Use Red Alert clips.

    • @filipeamaral216
      @filipeamaral216 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Glorious, comrade.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 2 года назад +1

      Stroke of genius...will be telling my son who used to love Red Alert...

  • @Kruppt808
    @Kruppt808 Год назад +1

    Playing Call To War: Gates of Hell: Ostfront
    and then this video got recommended to me :)
    Thanks JJ

  • @michaelgmr60
    @michaelgmr60 2 года назад +2

    The only gun that is soooo overpowered it can shoot 30-60 rounds in seconds it's like a mini machine gun in your care

  • @Snuffy03
    @Snuffy03 Год назад

    I had one of these in my possession at one time. Knowing I could never get it home, I destroyed it myself just too keep some REMF officer from getting his hands on it. It was a fascinating piece of weaponry.

  • @sneedmando186
    @sneedmando186 2 года назад +3

    So good, it’s helped Frankenfurter go to space

  • @eugenius6519
    @eugenius6519 2 года назад +1

    I wouldn't compare the PPSH with the sten or mp40 as the PPSH was a major improvement on the PPD-40 instead of being just cheaper to produce.

  • @EmperorNapoleonBonparte
    @EmperorNapoleonBonparte 2 года назад +1

    This weapon was revolutionary, it was extremely effective and was cheap to make.

  • @firemasterx23
    @firemasterx23 2 года назад +1

    you spoiling us with these contents

  • @lewissparrow7417
    @lewissparrow7417 4 месяца назад

    I wouldn't have fancied going up against a Soviet submachine gun platoon with all that firepower at their disposal and imagine if they were professional well trained and experienced too!
    By the way the beautiful lady who appeared in this video just before halfway through is Yulia Peresild playing the famous sniper Pavlichenko who killed over 300 fascists and went to America where she made friends with President Roosevelt's wife AND was the first Soviet citizen to visit the White House!
    Yulia Peresild also filmed a film about space where she actually really did fly into space spending a week on the International Space Station!

  • @old_boy9030
    @old_boy9030 Год назад

    When Battlestate Games put the PPSH into Tarkov, at first, when you mag dumped the drum, it would actually lag out the server lmao

  • @ultimis_nikolai_belinski_ussr
    @ultimis_nikolai_belinski_ussr Год назад

    1) problems with mags it’s mostly false
    2) max distance - 500 m
    3) Shooting from PPSH from hip is extremely effective at a distance of up to 80 meters due to its design and working system. Some Soviet soldiers were able to hit targets at a distance of 90 meters by a single fire.

  • @FeldwebelWolfenstool
    @FeldwebelWolfenstool Год назад +1

    ...firing a very powerful necked-down pistol cartridge...

  • @Tempest2111
    @Tempest2111 2 года назад

    5:02-5:05 - It's true regarding the PPSh-41 had a program while still had that SMG results the cause of the drum magazine, the string, and the bullets were frozen regarding why was the gun was jammed and unable to fired rapidly.

  • @tyomies6168
    @tyomies6168 2 года назад +1

    I love how even Ron Pearlman for some reason has a british accent in "Enemy at the Gates" even though the actor is from the USA.

  • @makukawakami
    @makukawakami 2 года назад +1

    the ejection port is on the top of the ppsh so the empty cartridges would be raining down on the person who's firing it. i wonder how they fixed this problem.

  • @redbread3522
    @redbread3522 2 года назад +2

    Brief? Amateur? Pfff... one of the most unbiased documentation in human history.

  • @4thmonitorion731
    @4thmonitorion731 2 года назад +8

    PPSH-41 is not too ergonomic for me, but compensates it for being a machinegun instead of a submachinegun, the firerate is so fast, and the mag is huge with 71 bullets.

    • @pavelmorozov6599
      @pavelmorozov6599 2 года назад +1

      rounds. the bullet is only the projectile.

    • @OltsuSuomesta
      @OltsuSuomesta 2 года назад +1

      @@pavelmorozov6599 To be fair, the magazine does indeed contain 71 bullets even if they are in cartridges.

    • @4thmonitorion731
      @4thmonitorion731 2 года назад

      @@OltsuSuomesta Are you joking or serious?

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 2 года назад +3

      no its definatly a submachinegun.
      Machine guns fire rifle ammo.
      Submachine guns fire pistol ammo.
      PPSh41s fire 7.62 Tokerov, a pistol round - therefore submachine gun. The size of the round is the ONLY difference betwen a machine gun and a submachine gun.

    • @4thmonitorion731
      @4thmonitorion731 2 года назад

      @@Debbiebabe69 r/woosh
      I told you, I just said its more of a machinegun than a submachinegun because of its firerate and drum mag.