Thanks for the comments, Sean; I'm really glad to hear that the videos are helping. It took me a long time until my flies started looking ANYTHING like they should! TC
Nice pattern, Tim. I tie some very similar variations, although for a caddis pupa I usually leave off the tail and go a bit heavier on the hackle. Along with peacock herl, I sometimes use dubbing for the thorax - say a tan body, copper wire rib, brown partridge hackle and dark brown dubbing for the thorax. I also tie some with d-rib for the body, ribbed with pearl krystal flash. Thanks for the videos - they are clear and informative.
Thanks for the comments, John, and I appreciate the variation that you offer. With caddis, I typically like to place a darker thorax, so I agree with you 100%! Thanks again! TC
Hey Tim, Congratulations are in order so Congratulations!! Great pattern, thanks for the tutorial. I have only been tying since February and I try all the patterns so you can imagine what my fly boxes look like! I just learned the difference between wet and dry flies so that is a line I will have to draw. Gotta start somewhere so I just started looking at videos and tying flies. I the different skills now and my flies are looking just like the ones I am copying so I am improving. Take care Sean
Thanks for the comment, Mike. I use both, like I mentioned in the video. For the flies you see here, they are natural (the tan is rabbit and the dark brown is squirrel). I will also add my own antron, or use some dubbing that has a little shine blended in. Hope all is well!
Hi LTK; I organize my boxes by type. My most common boxes are: Dry flies and emergers (mayflies), caddisflies, midges, nymphs - dark, nymphs - light, streamers, spinners, & terrestrials. I take various flies based on current hatches; I always have my nymph and streamer selections, and vary the rest. I hope this helps!
So, the organizer cleaned up would like: Dry Flys & Emergers -Mayflies, Caddisflies, Midges Nymphs -Dark, Light Streamers Spinners Terrestrials for five boxes?
The fly was designed by Rick Anderson of Fly Fishing Specialties in Citrus Heights, California. The commercial version is distributed by the Montana Fly Company.
It is a staple in my various trout boxes. I mostly carry sizes 12, 14, and 16 in olive, black, tan, and brown. I also use a size 8 orangish color as an October Caddis. More on the fly. Rick will freely admit that his pattern is a variation of the Bird's Nest hence the name Bird of Prey. The original Bird of Prey uses Wood Duck flank feathers for the tail and legs like the Bird's Nest. The commercial version uses partridge.
Thanks for sharing ive been looking for some solid caddis paterns to use and i really like this one im going to diamond fork river in utah tomorrow ill probably try this one out!
Thanks for the kind words, Mason, and this pattern has produced for many. Let me know how you do with the fly, and be sure to update us with any modifications you make. Thanks again! TC
I don't know if this will help anyone. But one thing I do with peacock herl, is to take a piece, and double it around the thread, tie it in, then wind the peacock like normal. Using one piece gives the same effect as using 2 and you get less wastage
Thanks for the kind words, and absolutely. I would also consider a chartreuse hot spot thread collar, or have a piece of green "peeking" out as a tail. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hey Tim another excellent video tutorial & pattern. I was wondering do you use a natural type dubbing for the body, i.e rabbit or similar or a synthetic type dubbing? Mike
Hey Tim, Can you tie an original or revised black or Orange Angus. I cannot find anyone who has tied one on You tube. I read the recipe in a book and I think I can do it. Just explaination and no pics.
Tim does the TAN version also have KRYSTAL FLASH rib ? Looks different, maybe just the the light or the angle. Do you ever tie this in an OLIVE or GREEN color ?
John, the tan has the same type of rib, though maybe the color is different in the video (it was recorded about three years ago, thus I can't be positive). What I can assure you is that the exact color is not as critical; instead, you want to ensure there is a slight flash. I prefer a thicker material than a wire, hence Krystal Flash is a great choice. Thanks for checking, and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Yes! I fish one very similar and will even opt for a peacock herl body. If you have any questions about it (or even dry flies), don't hesitate to reach out: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
+Kristen Rudloff You're correct on both of those, Kristen, and either I misspoke, or the hook changed since this was recorded in 2013. What I can tell you is that I am comfortable using either a 1x or 2x long hook, though for the wire, I prefer heavier over light to help sink the pattern a bit. I hope that helps, and good luck with this one, because it works well (and just did this past weekend for me). Tim
Dustin Masters Dustin, the scissors here are a Tiemco curved pair, and I use them occasionally. I have switched to a pair with finer tips (tension-style), as I prefer being able to make more precise cuts. I plan on making a video this summer that will discuss the different types of scissors I use, thus be on the lookout for it. Thanks for checking. TC
Thanks for the comments, Sean; I'm really glad to hear that the videos are helping. It took me a long time until my flies started looking ANYTHING like they should!
TC
Nice pattern, Tim. I tie some very similar variations, although for a caddis pupa I usually leave off the tail and go a bit heavier on the hackle. Along with peacock herl, I sometimes use dubbing for the thorax - say a tan body, copper wire rib, brown partridge hackle and dark brown dubbing for the thorax. I also tie some with d-rib for the body, ribbed with pearl krystal flash. Thanks for the videos - they are clear and informative.
Thanks for the comments, John, and I appreciate the variation that you offer. With caddis, I typically like to place a darker thorax, so I agree with you 100%! Thanks again! TC
Like your site and the way you deliver instructions on tying
Thanks, Mal; I really appreciate the kind comments. TC
Hey Tim, Congratulations are in order so Congratulations!! Great pattern, thanks for the tutorial. I have only been tying since February and I try all the patterns so you can imagine what my fly boxes look like! I just learned the difference between wet and dry flies so that is a line I will have to draw. Gotta start somewhere so I just started looking at videos and tying flies. I the different skills now and my flies are looking just like the ones I am copying so I am improving. Take care Sean
Thanks for the comment, Mike. I use both, like I mentioned in the video. For the flies you see here, they are natural (the tan is rabbit and the dark brown is squirrel). I will also add my own antron, or use some dubbing that has a little shine blended in. Hope all is well!
Hi LTK; I organize my boxes by type. My most common boxes are: Dry flies and emergers (mayflies), caddisflies, midges, nymphs - dark, nymphs - light, streamers, spinners, & terrestrials. I take various flies based on current hatches; I always have my nymph and streamer selections, and vary the rest. I hope this helps!
So, the organizer cleaned up would like:
Dry Flys & Emergers
-Mayflies, Caddisflies, Midges
Nymphs
-Dark, Light
Streamers
Spinners
Terrestrials
for five boxes?
Thanks, Len; this pattern works great on streams that have a prevalent caddis population. I'm guessing that your area may...
Great comment, Wavey; thanks for sharing!
thanks Tim u do a great job
+James Wagner Thanks, James; I appreciate it! I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Wow nice fly, you do a great job, love that shirt
Thanks, Mark, it's a great fly...and shirt! I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
The fly was designed by Rick Anderson of Fly Fishing Specialties in Citrus Heights, California. The commercial version is distributed by the Montana Fly Company.
Thanks for the information, Dennis. Is this a pattern you turn to frequently? Tim
It is a staple in my various trout boxes. I mostly carry sizes 12, 14, and 16 in olive, black, tan, and brown. I also use a size 8 orangish color as an October Caddis.
More on the fly. Rick will freely admit that his pattern is a variation of the Bird's Nest hence the name Bird of Prey. The original Bird of Prey uses Wood Duck flank feathers for the tail and legs like the Bird's Nest. The commercial version uses partridge.
Great info...thanks again!
Thanks for sharing ive been looking for some solid caddis paterns to use and i really like this one im going to diamond fork river in utah tomorrow ill probably try this one out!
Thanks for the kind words, Mason, and this pattern has produced for many. Let me know how you do with the fly, and be sure to update us with any modifications you make. Thanks again! TC
Hi Tim, I was wondering how you organize your fly boxes and what flies you usually take trout fishing in PA?
I don't know if this will help anyone. But one thing I do with peacock herl, is to take a piece, and double it around the thread, tie it in, then wind the peacock like normal. Using one piece gives the same effect as using 2 and you get less wastage
Looks like a Great Fly:-)
Nice tie. Would u recommend the dark one for a Grannom soft hackle?
Thanks for the kind words, and absolutely. I would also consider a chartreuse hot spot thread collar, or have a piece of green "peeking" out as a tail. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hey Tim another excellent video tutorial & pattern. I was wondering do you use a natural type dubbing for the body, i.e rabbit or similar or a synthetic type dubbing?
Mike
Which book did you get the pattern from?
Hey Tim, Can you tie an original or revised black or Orange Angus. I cannot find anyone who has tied one on You tube. I read the recipe in a book and I think I can do it. Just explaination and no pics.
Tim does the TAN version also have KRYSTAL FLASH rib ? Looks different, maybe just the the light or the angle. Do you ever tie this in an OLIVE or GREEN color ?
John, the tan has the same type of rib, though maybe the color is different in the video (it was recorded about three years ago, thus I can't be positive). What I can assure you is that the exact color is not as critical; instead, you want to ensure there is a slight flash. I prefer a thicker material than a wire, hence Krystal Flash is a great choice. Thanks for checking, and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Very nice pattern. What size beadhead do u use on ur size 12 and 14 hooks?
Thanks for the comment, Andrew. Regarding the bead, I typically use between a 2.0 and 2.4 mm tungsten on those sizes. TC
Bill Anderson from PA, FYI...
+Matthew Evey Matthew, what are you referring to? I know of Bill Anderson, and he has been a great voice for some Central PA rivers. Thanks! TC
In the video, it is said he is from CA
+Matthew Evey I understand now. The pattern was created by John Anderson, who lives in Colorado. Thanks for checking...
Do you mean Davie? He is definitely great at fly tying...
Tim - Tied with dark colors, as you did here, do you think that would be a good mothers day caddis emerger ??? \Brian :-)
Yes! I fish one very similar and will even opt for a peacock herl body. If you have any questions about it (or even dry flies), don't hesitate to reach out: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You said the 204 is 2x wide and 2x short, but the Allen website says the 204 is 1x short and 1x light. ??
+Kristen Rudloff You're correct on both of those, Kristen, and either I misspoke, or the hook changed since this was recorded in 2013. What I can tell you is that I am comfortable using either a 1x or 2x long hook, though for the wire, I prefer heavier over light to help sink the pattern a bit. I hope that helps, and good luck with this one, because it works well (and just did this past weekend for me). Tim
What sissors are you using here?
Dustin Masters Dustin, the scissors here are a Tiemco curved pair, and I use them occasionally. I have switched to a pair with finer tips (tension-style), as I prefer being able to make more precise cuts. I plan on making a video this summer that will discuss the different types of scissors I use, thus be on the lookout for it. Thanks for checking. TC
Can this be tied with out the bead Tim please?
Dewi Jones Absolutely, Dewi; good luck with the pattern. Tim