Excellent breakdown! I would like to mention that most of us at the table know each other and it's hard to hear the gamesmanship going on between us. we trade chips often and with a smile and a wink.
Another live tell is Kristen she snap call meaning she has an 8 or a good draw. Depending on what she does next we'll know if she really has the 8. I see nothing wrong with Steve's continuation betting. It's like an information bet
I don't get Amber's fold of her open-ended straight draw on the flop. Yeah, the board was paired, but how many boats were really out there? Meanwhile, she had to call $35 with $130 in the pot. That seems like a VERY straightforward call to me, even if you're afraid of a flush draw for some reason. The turn is an easy fold, but that flop fold just seems weak to me.
I would check the turn, yes you pick up two pair but the only hands it matters against is AK,AQ,AJ, any 8 you are still beat against , and it completes the flush draw; your hand is a bluff Catcher nothing more, so checking makes the most sense, I might check raise if he seems timid about the flush, but it would be a bluff targeting an 8 or combo draw, but primarily check call for pot control ,
A very important factor I seldom hear is: Be ass opposite of the table... If the table is aggressive, be the tightest player there... If the table is extremely tight, be the most aggressive player there...
~30 combos of hands that beat us ~10 combos of hands that we beat and bet in this spot. Bet size and stack sizes We have some outs XC the turn XF the river to any reasonable bet unless she is a maniac
So when you’re saying people are defending their blinds way too wide in small stakes, is that way too wide against bigger sizing (5bb +) or against more “standard” sizing (2-3bb)? And is the exploit against this bigger sizing to be tighter when calling and raising a more merged range or is it more nuanced than that? Love the content btw
That 'honest " reaction you mentioned can also be taken as a sign of strength, that is exactly what I would expect someone to do slow playing the nuts with someone betting into them...
@@OneEyedJack01 I do a MUCH better hob of it when I am out of the hand…. But yeah. Generally do fine at my thursday night bubble gum blinds fun with the guys night.
Getting better than 3-1. It’s a tough spot but there is no way you can fold unless you know your opponent. She bet quick so I’m thinking that polarized her. Just call the bet small on the river and fold if she re raises.
Awesome observations..but, couldn't that hand shrug also mean he has a big flush draw or even a small flush? Ive seen similar reactions in different spots...the irony is both are probably honest reactions..lol
An ideal situation is having, aggressive players to the right of you.. And tight players to the left of you.... That's a dream scenario, and that's a game I won't leave..Until the game breaks up....
6:55 “Steve won’t fold J9 to a raise”, but the SB folded J9 to a single bet So who knows what Steve would’ve done Just sayin ... All these little things add up to the point you can’t used advanced strategy to rationalize what small stakes players actions or ranges will be All you can do is strategize your own play and hand selections
love these reviews - definitely a tough spot for the a 10 on the turn - with a hand that's strong but not even close to the effective nuts, the type of hand that is probably best if you're not getting action but is NOT thrilled when the opponent is shoveling all the chips. So call the turn without giving away tells but how do we evaluate these spots on the river?
Yo g I can't Believe that I was wrong I mean she did play very quickly and like I said 2/8 on the board anyway I would have folded got out of the way and move on
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Well I'll be damned you do learn something new everyday and I'll keep that under my hat I make that mistake all the time and didn't even know it thank you John
Pause - folding those top two pair would be so hard to do, even with the diamonds and paired board, especially for 60 bucks....I wouldn't feel good about calling, wouldn't feel good about folding it either...one thing is that if you call the 60 bucks you have to be ready to call the river bet too so that might be enough to knock me off the top two pair...still a really tough fold
I had a VERY similar situation playing a home game yesterday. Game was .5/$1 everyone is 100bb+ 4 handed because I player just got stacked I was sb with QJo Big blind Best player at the table (willing to run big bluffs) raises to raises to 4 Button call. I call 4c Jh 4h I led for 7 Villain calls other player folds Qs turn I check to induce the villain to bluff he bets 26 Kc River I check expecting his bluff range to be all pocket pairs 7-10s and one pair hands that play with the board. He ships. I snap call He has 4h 9h.
If you thought he was bluffing, why shove? That’s dumb because only call you’d get is a hand better than yours, especially if you think they’re better than you....
3 bet Preflop big to like 15-20$ instead of flatting the 4, highly likely he gets out the hand instead of getting in there for 4$. U have QJ which plays pretty decently Postflop, I would check call the flop after 3 betting if u get callers cuz they could be playing aa kk qq aj jj. Then when Q comes turn check call it too. Then river comes lead for decent amount with ur two pair. Also usually smaller stakes cash game hardly ever a river jam bluff, maybe 10-15% of the time base on my personal experience unless they super short. Just let it go, huge part of poker is knowing when to fold. 3bet more Preflop, it isolates players and gets rid of the “shitty” hands so 49 will never see the flop unless their deranged maniac and them constantly doing that long term is not profitable.
Well that's pretty easy there Jonathan considering there's two eighths already on the board and she's betting more this time than I had before doesn't matter that I got aces I would fold immediately
Once I got A10s UTG at the big tournament and folded. The flop was my flush... It was deep, the blinds were still quite small, but I was so out of position. I uderstand that it is a very small chance to flop a flush, but still, it was the best luck that day and I let it slip through my fingers. I don't know how would I play it next time. The guy after me (UTG+2) was raising 4BB when he was betting and he played quite lose. He got one call, his opponent folded after flop.
7:43 Generally wouldn't be in this spot since I don't play A10 utg+1 in my game. If I'm at this specific table though, and op calls my flop bet and bets large on the turn? Gonna fold because I am likely against something nasty.
But she didn’t bet big and it’s callable, you’re not drawing dead and you have outs for a monster hand. Folding on the turn is the worst decision you can make. Also it tells me you’re not good enough to play AX off shoot utg to navigate through a hand. You need to incorporate these moments in your game or you easily become predictable. If you want to be better in poker, you need to play bad hands and find a way to win with them.
In online 6-max I lose most of my money holding ak and aqo. These are really negative hands for me because they make one pair and often I can't fold when the nits who call in position decide to pile it in when there are lots of draws available. Aqo should be the rock bottom of your opening range utg. I have a friend who will fold even that 9 handed. It's not so bad short stacked.
If you have a negative winrate with AK, then youre doing something wrong. My winrate with AK is 350BB/100 out of 100k hands. And I am pretty sure there is room for improvement. (With AKo its 50BB/100)
@@MrSeppei well obviously I am bad. I know that's an abberation. Overall I am -5bb/100, but almost all the money I've lost playing zoom over 40k hands is rake. So I'm not like a giant fish. I'm just bringing this up to show that it's really hard to play one big pair out of position against tough opponents who will sometimes flat with aces on the button, 3-bet polarized, call with all their implied odds hands, and not put another chip into the pot on an ace or king high board unless they've got you beat or have a strong draw. Yeah you make money when everyone folds, you've got 2 good blockers, and yeah your c bet is going to take the pot a lot, but once the flop bet gets called, you're usually in bad shape. They aren't going to just call you down 3 streets with a7s like a live donk will.
I would turn my AT into a massive bluff, cuz as he played he could slow play TT set and AA sets and try to fold all the 8ts flushes if she's not a fish if she's calling station than no i would fold the turn cuz ists moust the time a loosing hand even u have top 2
You’re a genius when you can see the cards.. wouldn’t have worked - she made lighter calls on precious hands. And after she called the turn your moving in on the river unblocking diamonds and she can easily have a house herself. She plays EVERYTHING, so 88, 10-8 A8 are easily possible and she could have the flush since Steve held no diamonds - unblock as you say But hey you know all the play A when you can see the cards lol
I would fold my A 10 seeing that a diamond flush gets there a set of aces gets there ace high flush we're dominated in this spot so i would fold mr little
And that’s why you need to study the game further. She wouldn’t be holding aces, and if she had a flush draw she would had raised on the flop. It’s more obvious she had a 10 or an 8. Also you’re not drawing dead and can catch a 10 or an ace, folding is literally the worst move at the turn and you should just quit poker.
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The SB folded the straight draw with 30% equity. OMG
Paired board scared her off?
If she made a straight with a diamond Q or 7 how strong would she feel. Especially on a paired board.
Excellent breakdown! I would like to mention that most of us at the table know each other and it's hard to hear the gamesmanship going on between us. we trade chips often and with a smile and a wink.
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Another live tell is Kristen she snap call meaning she has an 8 or a good draw. Depending on what she does next we'll know if she really has the 8. I see nothing wrong with Steve's continuation betting. It's like an information bet
I don't get Amber's fold of her open-ended straight draw on the flop. Yeah, the board was paired, but how many boats were really out there? Meanwhile, she had to call $35 with $130 in the pot. That seems like a VERY straightforward call to me, even if you're afraid of a flush draw for some reason.
The turn is an easy fold, but that flop fold just seems weak to me.
She might be thinking she has a lot of dirty outs? But yeah with that price she’s gotta come along, if not even raise.
I would check the turn, yes you pick up two pair but the only hands it matters against is AK,AQ,AJ, any 8 you are still beat against , and it completes the flush draw; your hand is a bluff Catcher nothing more, so checking makes the most sense, I might check raise if he seems timid about the flush, but it would be a bluff targeting an 8 or combo draw, but primarily check call for pot control ,
A very important factor I seldom hear is: Be ass opposite of the table...
If the table is aggressive, be the tightest player there...
If the table is extremely tight, be the most aggressive player there...
Call and hope to fill up or check through
~30 combos of hands that beat us
~10 combos of hands that we beat and bet in this spot.
Bet size and stack sizes
We have some outs
XC the turn
XF the river to any reasonable bet unless she is a maniac
i would check call any reasonable bet but fold to any overbet
Check call turn. If river is blank and opponent still so confidently bets - check fold river
Awesome format.
Ty JL
So when you’re saying people are defending their blinds way too wide in small stakes, is that way too wide against bigger sizing (5bb +) or against more “standard” sizing (2-3bb)? And is the exploit against this bigger sizing to be tighter when calling and raising a more merged range or is it more nuanced than that?
Love the content btw
The man with the hammer 😆 lol
Fold pre
That 'honest " reaction you mentioned can also be taken as a sign of strength, that is exactly what I would expect someone to do slow playing the nuts with someone betting into them...
If you can't tell the difference between honest pain and acting, well that's on you.
@@OneEyedJack01 I do a MUCH better hob of it when I am out of the hand….
But yeah. Generally do fine at my thursday night bubble gum blinds fun with the guys night.
Great video and advice
I would not be in the hand,,,but if I was card dead for an orbit I would just call
Haha! Kristen does indeed like playing a lot of hands.
Getting better than 3-1. It’s a tough spot but there is no way you can fold unless you know your opponent. She bet quick so I’m thinking that polarized her. Just call the bet small on the river and fold if she re raises.
I saw you playing live yesterday on TV during my poker session..
Awesome observations..but, couldn't that hand shrug also mean he has a big flush draw or even a small flush? Ive seen similar reactions in different spots...the irony is both are probably honest reactions..lol
A 10 i would call half pot. But not more because of the possibility of a flush.
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Thanks for taking the time to watch Clinton, really glad you enjoy it!
An ideal situation is having, aggressive players to the right of you.. And tight players to the left of you....
That's a dream scenario, and that's a game I won't leave..Until the game breaks up....
6:55
“Steve won’t fold J9 to a raise”, but the SB folded J9 to a single bet
So who knows what Steve would’ve done
Just sayin ...
All these little things add up to the point you can’t used advanced strategy to rationalize what small stakes players actions or ranges will be
All you can do is strategize your own play and hand selections
Well put
love these reviews - definitely a tough spot for the a 10 on the turn - with a hand that's strong but not even close to the effective nuts, the type of hand that is probably best if you're not getting action but is NOT thrilled when the opponent is shoveling all the chips. So call the turn without giving away tells but how do we evaluate these spots on the river?
Yo g I can't Believe that I was wrong I mean she did play very quickly and like I said 2/8 on the board anyway I would have folded got out of the way and move on
Good advise
making top 2 on the turn I'm calling the under half size pot bet. unless the river is another A or T I'm folding to almost any river bet though
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I like to balance my tells and doing it with flushes and full houses also
Call...he may think he's ahead but if he raises and gets re-raised he's in deep
Well I'll be damned you do learn something new everyday and I'll keep that under my hat I make that mistake all the time and didn't even know it thank you John
Pause - folding those top two pair would be so hard to do, even with the diamonds and paired board, especially for 60 bucks....I wouldn't feel good about calling, wouldn't feel good about folding it either...one thing is that if you call the 60 bucks you have to be ready to call the river bet too so that might be enough to knock me off the top two pair...still a really tough fold
I don’t think you have to call river if you call turn. Especially on bad rivers.
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I had a VERY similar situation playing a home game yesterday. Game was .5/$1 everyone is 100bb+
4 handed because I player just got stacked
I was sb with QJo
Big blind Best player at the table (willing to run big bluffs) raises to raises to 4
Button call. I call
4c Jh 4h
I led for 7 Villain calls other player folds
Qs turn
I check to induce the villain to bluff he bets 26
Kc River
I check expecting his bluff range to be all pocket pairs 7-10s and one pair hands that play with the board.
He ships. I snap call
He has 4h 9h.
If you thought he was bluffing, why shove? That’s dumb because only call you’d get is a hand better than yours, especially if you think they’re better than you....
@@blowc1612 he shoved I called
3 bet Preflop big to like 15-20$ instead of flatting the 4, highly likely he gets out the hand instead of getting in there for 4$. U have QJ which plays pretty decently Postflop, I would check call the flop after 3 betting if u get callers cuz they could be playing aa kk qq aj jj. Then when Q comes turn check call it too. Then river comes lead for decent amount with ur two pair. Also usually smaller stakes cash game hardly ever a river jam bluff, maybe 10-15% of the time base on my personal experience unless they super short. Just let it go, huge part of poker is knowing when to fold. 3bet more Preflop, it isolates players and gets rid of the “shitty” hands so 49 will never see the flop unless their deranged maniac and them constantly doing that long term is not profitable.
I will 3 bet or all in
Call
Well that's pretty easy there Jonathan considering there's two eighths already on the board and she's betting more this time than I had before doesn't matter that I got aces I would fold immediately
calling with my full house outs
wouldn't play A10os at UTG at all
Once I got A10s UTG at the big tournament and folded. The flop was my flush... It was deep, the blinds were still quite small, but I was so out of position. I uderstand that it is a very small chance to flop a flush, but still, it was the best luck that day and I let it slip through my fingers. I don't know how would I play it next time. The guy after me (UTG+2) was raising 4BB when he was betting and he played quite lose. He got one call, his opponent folded after flop.
Got to call
7:43 Generally wouldn't be in this spot since I don't play A10 utg+1 in my game. If I'm at this specific table though, and op calls my flop bet and bets large on the turn? Gonna fold because I am likely against something nasty.
But she didn’t bet big and it’s callable, you’re not drawing dead and you have outs for a monster hand. Folding on the turn is the worst decision you can make.
Also it tells me you’re not good enough to play AX off shoot utg to navigate through a hand. You need to incorporate these moments in your game or you easily become predictable. If you want to be better in poker, you need to play bad hands and find a way to win with them.
In online 6-max I lose most of my money holding ak and aqo. These are really negative hands for me because they make one pair and often I can't fold when the nits who call in position decide to pile it in when there are lots of draws available. Aqo should be the rock bottom of your opening range utg. I have a friend who will fold even that 9 handed. It's not so bad short stacked.
If you have a negative winrate with AK, then youre doing something wrong. My winrate with AK is 350BB/100 out of 100k hands. And I am pretty sure there is room for improvement. (With AKo its 50BB/100)
@@MrSeppei well obviously I am bad. I know that's an abberation. Overall I am -5bb/100, but almost all the money I've lost playing zoom over 40k hands is rake. So I'm not like a giant fish. I'm just bringing this up to show that it's really hard to play one big pair out of position against tough opponents who will sometimes flat with aces on the button, 3-bet polarized, call with all their implied odds hands, and not put another chip into the pot on an ace or king high board unless they've got you beat or have a strong draw. Yeah you make money when everyone folds, you've got 2 good blockers, and yeah your c bet is going to take the pot a lot, but once the flop bet gets called, you're usually in bad shape. They aren't going to just call you down 3 streets with a7s like a live donk will.
Keep crushing.
I would turn my AT into a massive bluff, cuz as he played he could slow play TT set and AA sets and try to fold all the 8ts flushes if she's not a fish if she's calling station than no i would fold the turn cuz ists moust the time a loosing hand even u have top 2
Fold the A10 because a flush beats you, you have no diamonds and you have 4 outs to beat the 8.
Snapfold vs girl on turn
Steve should fold the turn too many hands beat you
i see her snap push chips in, im out knowing she has a set with 3 diamond on board. see ya!
Call the turn because you know she's loose, made two pair tough to give up.
call
i bet half pot
fold
Steve your mannerisms are fine and Kristen your speed of play is fine... neither of you should listen to Mr. Little one bit....🤥
Bet
Poker tells became FAR harder to spot now, with all the masks on.
Yup everybody‘s gangster nowadays😅
I would had raised to 280 on the turn and try to represent the flush, while having outs. Knowing she has the 8...
You’re a genius when you can see the cards.. wouldn’t have worked - she made lighter calls on precious hands. And after she called the turn your moving in on the river unblocking diamonds and she can easily have a house herself. She plays EVERYTHING, so 88, 10-8 A8 are easily possible and she could have the flush since Steve held no diamonds - unblock as you say
But hey you know all the play
A when you can see the cards lol
I would fold my A 10 seeing that a diamond flush gets there a set of aces gets there ace high flush we're dominated in this spot so i would fold mr little
And that’s why you need to study the game further. She wouldn’t be holding aces, and if she had a flush draw she would had raised on the flop. It’s more obvious she had a 10 or an 8.
Also you’re not drawing dead and can catch a 10 or an ace, folding is literally the worst move at the turn and you should just quit poker.
ok
I'd muck. She could have an 8 or 2 diamonds.
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86s is too loose? Don't tell me how play my cards, nerd.
call