Homemade PCB Etching (through hole parts) - Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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Part 1: • Homemade PCB Etching (...
My Eagle files: www.mediafire.c...
Amazon.de:
Iron(III) chloride: amzn.to/Whwhol
Acetone: amzn.to/1r88TSx
Dell C1660W: amzn.to/1o1tgzN
Amazon.com:
Ferric Chloride Copper Etchant Solution: amzn.to/1vks6nq
Acetone: amzn.to/1vDi5nL
Dell C1660W: amzn.to/1vksCSv
In this small video series I will show you how to make your own single layer PCBs at home. In this part I will show you how I transfered my design to the copper board with the help of a laser printer and an iron. The method is called "toner transfer".
Music:
In the Hall of the Mountain King, Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
So, who's this Cooper guy he's been talking about????
Webgkil yes Right😂😂 it should sound copper not cooper😂😂😂
Webgkil he is at the Acetoe
Maybe his unseen assistance?
Really a great video. I use an iron with a setting of medium instead of high. Iron the board like ironing a shirt. works every time. .
When i was in high school i did some basic electronics and the last project we did was make our own pcb but back then we had to pretty much hand draw all our traces but it was still a lot of fun
The video is really great but while removing the paper I recommend not to remove it in soapy water. once I had done the same my board was ruined after etching. use normal water. some soaps have chemicals which might disturb the process of etching. this is my personal experience.
keep up the good work scott
the autorouter hurts my feelings :(
I don't have printer and no expensive drilling machining.
I cut paper in a pattern to match the traces, then stick the paper on top of the copper laminate and spray paint it. Then i remove the paper and do the etching.
This works for smd.
Wait a minute...You said that if there are any intreruptions in the lines after the transfer of the ink to the copper board I can use a Sharpie to cover them up.So , does this mean that I can directly draw on the copper surface with a Sharpie (no printer) and then continue the process?
You can but unless the circuit is very simple it's not a good idea. btw oil based paint might work better than a Sharpie.
Yes, you can draw Dickbutt in copper :P
You can, but of course you are limited by the steadiness and precision of your hands.
Конденсатор also can use nail paint, the girls be using!
you can draw the circuit on but you will have to be very precise
Well explained, thanks for that. I would like to add that the etching process becomes easier and also a lot faster, when you add a ground plate in your eagle layout.
I laughed out loud when you said the transfer paper was total bullshit. I made hundreds of circuit boards growing up but have been using boards made in China for the last ten years with great results. However I have decided to go back to making my own boards as the craft is just as much fun as the finished results. Thanks for the reminder. I’m building an ESD gun on my channel I would like to see your version. Thanks Regards Chris
You can design PCBs using an app called PCB droid. Pretty easy to use and supports PDF formats.
Gotta love the sense of humour in this video
That feeling when there is no laser printer near you. :/
Ian Kyle Maturan That feeling when you don't have acetone and PCB etching solution and drill and Dremel near you... :/
Chandan Smart Games that feeling when you have literally no money for this :/
DarkBabylon haha
@Ian Kyle You can use a marker.
Could you do a double-sided etching tutorial? Love your videos. Really informative.
I have used photo paper for this and it worked well. I used the cheapest Kodak paper and it wound up working the best because it held the toner well, holds more toner without bleeding, wasn't the waterproof stuff, and it peeled much more easily when wet. The more expensive "premium" paper like the epson stuff doesn't work because water doesn't easily wet it and the gloss interfered with the toner transfer.
I also used a 1 part muriatic acid and 2 part peroxide solution for the etchant.
If you leave a tiny film of acetone (I use nail polish remover) on the board before transferring, you will get a better result.
You can use transparent thick plastic sheet (OHP sheet) to print board file. So no need to wash PCB after printing. If you use FeCl3 chemical with hot water, etching process will reduce form 10 minutes to 3 to 4 minutes only. :)
This was awesome. I like how the board turned out. This is the ultimate diy. I'm itching to try it but don't have a laser printer lol.
Any suggestions for solder mask?
If you do a double sided board, make sure to reverse the top layer!
Very nice video, easy to understand and follow. The pathway calculator was new, I like it. Thanks
It seems like you really enjoy a good elctrical challange.
So I was wandering if you ever tried making a project with a home made pcb that had two layers. (What I mean is to make a PCB with a differebt copper trace on both sides).
I am very interested in see what you come up with. I have a number of things I would like to try for myself. But the issue is getting everything together.
The potentiometer is mounted back way 😀
that's cool
I might not be a digital guru but still enjoyed it.
I only worked on analog systems on older tractors and cars but could hone in some skills for other projects🤘
Same problem I also faced with glossy paper,,
Instead of drill, We can buy a small screwdriver like thing in market that has spring and it rotates buy stroking
The first time using this, I used photo paper and while I got it to transfer, the paper left a film on the board which when I tried to remove it, it damaged the traces beyond repair. I have yet to try again, this time I'll use regular glossy paper (92 brightness) to see if that works better.
great video it helped me cuz i had some trouble with this technique i didn't know how to use it properly
loved both videos. exactly what I was looking for.
Fantastic Video & Project. Keep up the great work. Nick.
That drill press is so cute...I wish I had one...
Instead of hand drill, We can buy a small screwdriver like thing in market that has spring and it rotates buy stroking
I never knew you could make a pcb like this, I have only ever used used an etching tank.
covers etching circuit boards with a mixture of muriatic acid and hydrogen peroxide. This is an alternative to using ferric chloride. These are common chemicals that can be found in most hardware stores along with the super market and drugstores.
50 % water 50 % Muriatic 100ml
Hydrogen perxide 25ml
First Time 25ml Hydrogen
perxide a gain
Real Time
Meine Gehörgange verkrampfen jedesmal bei "cooper" Sprichst du das absichtlich falsch? ^^
thanks for sharing ur knowledge
can anybody tell how to prepare ferric chloride solution from the powder?? I mean what is the ratio of fecl3 and water??
nunca pensé que fuera posible hacer esto
felicitaciones
Can you please make a video how to make DC motor
That looks kind of delicious...
Well done! Thanks Very Much! Oh, by the way I'm from Myanmar I love your videos so much! I also want to know where to by the drill press like yours?
Nyein Chan Zaw Thanks a lot. It is basically just a dremel with a drill stand. Here is where I got mine: amzn.to/1r6bZcy amzn.to/1r6c6ot
GreatScott! Thanks Buddy :D
dude you're awesome. great job..
Nice ...i like your pcb board...
It was very helpful, thank you very much!
Please suggest exact FR4 Material for our pcb suitable for panel type board easy to breake after assembly
Great video! Subscribed.
It seems so cool
very informative video thanks.
transfer the toner on the paper(any kind of paper?) to the pcb using iron?
At 2:38-2:51 what is that device called? Not the Dremel but what the Dremel is attached to.
eagle software is good. but I love EASY EDA
Don't care™
I just etch my boards manuly with a small, shatpent, flathead screwdriver. its a pain in the butt, but its cheap, and works quite well.
Instead of hand drill, We can get a small screwdriver like thing in market that has spring and it rotates buy stroking.
I'm using sodium persulfate instead your chemical. What is the difference? Also I'm just putting board in water with sodium persulfate and just wait until only traces remains.
any plans to make a video on a double sided board? id really love to see that
I would like you to make a self balancing robot. It's pretty challenging as i have made it during my graduation ... it took me a month to fine tune that... hope u would b able to take it
brilliant idea :)
I just destroyed my board. Iron temperature was too high and the copper layer has deformed
nice video.
I thought u need orange light to transfer traces from paper to pcb
I am confused
sir glossy paper is not attaching to pcb???????
Hi and thanks for your help
I have a problem with finding the right paper for this project . Do you have a brand or model number of paper you have used that works well. I am using the Iron on method with MG Chemicals Ferric Chloride etch
GreatScott!, denkst du, diese Einmal-Gummihandschuhe schützen genau so gut gegen das Eisenchlorid? Oder sollte ich eher Handschuhe kaufen, wie du sie hast?
Plx show how to make custom arduino shield
do you just rince the pcb full of ferric chloride in the sink? I bet this is can damage the pipes over time. what is the recommanded way to do it?
When you use photo papers. Don't use iron. use nail polish remover instead !
It's possible to create some double side boards with it, right?
How do you dispose of the toxic waste? And it would be good to advise wearing protective goggles when dealing with corrosive liquids.
Meta Dolor At a recycling depot. Do not use your drain.
Thank you !
You forgot to mention that the design should be mirrored during printing. Because when u press it against the pcb for ironing It gets mirrored again.
You said that you used some glossy paper from a magazine.
How did you get a piece of paper with nothing printed on it? Or did you like rip that glossy plastic of the paper itself.
That is what I kinda need explained, cos I used to also get some really expensive things, well it worked but if this is cheaper :P and less fuss getting it... :P
I SO!! hope you'll see on this this old post
+Oerjan Snell There was stuff printed on the glossy paper. But only your design will transfer with the heat.
OK, I will try that later today if I just find some glossy paper :P
thanks :D
+Oerjan Snell you can try watching this tutorial it's from the ben heck show he tries different home brew methods including this one
How does a pure copper pcb no short circut with no insulator between power and ground
what is cooper? copper?
+Ferny Lloyd really , Copper is a chemical element with symbol Cu and atomic number 29. It is a soft, malleable and ductile metal with very high thermal and electrical conductivity. A freshly exposed surface of pure copper has a reddish-orange color. Wikipedia
+Ss Ssa cool thanks
It's something like
"Get To The Chopper!!!"
/watch?v=-9-Te-DPbSE
yes
Nice & thanks
Isn't it easier to use a CNC machine? I mean, 3D printers are all around the place, and they're just CNCs with extruders instead of drills. So the tech for moving something in 3 axis must be pretty cheap. Now only thing that matters, is there a proper software for controlling a CNC to make circuit boards.
+G_glop a Laser Printer is a CNC machine as well :p
Btw not everyone has a CNC Router or 3D Printer....
He did get a small x-carve that he said he was going to use for milling PCBs, he just hasn't made that video yet. Hopefully he will though, as many schools and maker spaces are starting to get them, and it would be useful information for anyone with access to one.
Another cool way to make PCBs is using a laser engraver. The copper get's covered in carbon and then vaporized with the lazer, which gives etching quality PCBs but much faster.
Tho i don't know how well does it with thick copper.
i have 3 questions please answer it
which dremel do y use ?
stand ? for drilling ?
and drill?
george anastasiadis the drillpress looks like it is a proxxon (maybe the "dremel" in it too)
Ohh but in my case Simple A size paper works Great instead Glossy , how ????
Great video Mr Scott. :-) And to people who pick on your pronunciation of English words, how about they try and pronounce some words from your native language and see how they go.
can i know how you shouldered components on pcb
Is there anyway to make the PCB without using any chemicals ?
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Since everything is a chemical, no. But you can use a CNC router if you don't want to handle corrosive liquids.
Can you make a pwm to control my 220v fan
you became the very thing you swore to destroy
Ich hoffe du siehst diesen Kommentar noch... Sollte ich ein Fotobeschichtetes PCB nehmen, oder lieber nicht? Und gibt es alternativen zum Zeitschriftenpapier? Bzw. geht es mit Folie?
+Lukas Pajak bei Fotobeschichteten Platinen kannst du Klarsichtfolien verwenden, die können auch mit Tintenpisser bedruckt werden; aber immer 2x ausdrucken und übereinanderlegen und mit der bedruckten Seite Richtung Platine. Vorteil der gezeigten Methode ist, dass man eben keine Fotobeschichteten Platinen braucht :D
Alternativ kannst du auch normale Kupferplatinen verwenden und dein Layout einfach mit Edding draufmalen. Bei einfachen Sachen kein Ding wenn man es vorher auf Papier ausprobiert hat. Dann brauchts auch kein Eagle :P
Great way to make own PCBs.
Is it right that The IronIII Chlorid don't dam ages you?
Somebody has written this on Amazon?
Can I use Canon Pixma G2012 printer
Can i use a photocopy machine instead of a laser printer?
esa edi yes!
Ahh yes, thats how i errased my fingerprints
Can you please do a video about christmas? I dont know, I would like to see some HACKED! christmas lights. imagine reprogramming the music of a crhistmas light
Hey, Scott! What dremel do you use? I'm looking for one that has a stand such as your so that I can drill my PCBs.
Thanks in advance! Awesome video! :D
John Galt
In his case his "dremel" (which is a company name, not a name for a tool) is a "Proxxon". At all costs don't get the real Dremel drill stand (from the Dremel company). I used that for some time, but it's a piece of mostly plastic crap. Add to that the poor construction of the dremel tool itself (the bearings just sit in plastic so you get massive vibrations). The whole setup has so much play,that it's almost impossible to accurately drill holes in a PCB. It's so bad that I switched to a wood router (which has a 43mm neck) mounted in a drill stand (for drills with a 43mm neck), and still get much better results than with the dremel which is supposedly for "fine" work.
But how can I get those liquids?
can i use a d313 for buz11.if any one know .tell me???
What kind of saw did you use? :)
Great!
Das heißt copper und nicht cooper!
How does one get ferric-chloride?
DarkBabylon I just ordered some off of eBay! So .. eBay ! :)
You can order small 2sided great quality PCB's (batches of 5, up to 100x100mm) from china for 2$ USD + 8$ shipping, if you're willing to wait :)
I'm new to this...
Is there a specific app you would use, to convert a concept design pattern into something printable on a piece of copper??
From a software background.. I have to be able to test.
What you're looking for could be found with a search for "pcb cad". Programs such as EAGLE, KiCad and EasyEDA fulfill this purpose.
does t works with a simple printer or it's just for laser printer ?
+Florian Vajeu You need to use a laser printer
ink won't transfer to the board, only toner will.
Excelent thx
Where is part three? I can't find it.
There is no part 3.
cool bro
I tryed this method but somehow I´m not able to remove the access toner with aceton or rubbing alcohol. Has anybody the same issue? How did you solve it? Can anyone help me?
And if i dont have iron chloride
Can i replace him with something else?
Elad Elmakias www.instructables.com/id/Stop-using-Ferric-Chloride-etchant!--A-better-etc/2/?lang=eng
GreatScott! thanks,
you are the best!