500 rounds in and now with every other round it has return to battery faliure, good luck tring to get pass Juan, the only customer service representative. ive been after a replacent recoil spring/guide rod for 3 months now.
@@chillios2222 you'd feel more rewarded if you gambled that money away. In all seriousness get something else, something with a reliable record. dont ignore the red flags like the rest of us.
Great review video. Thanks! If you like the gun (except for the last hundred or so rounds that you fired), Try putting another 300 rounds through it. If Canik does not have an under-engineered recoil spring assembly, the out of battery issue might clear up. I am a certified armourer for Glock and Berretta. The recoil spring is balanced with both the gun's recoil and the interface between the slide rails and frame rails. It is quite possible that the recoil spring found its true compression force before the slide worked in with the frame rails. I hope your viewers don't shoot me down for this, because it is true. I have seen this with many semi-automatic pistols over the years, including Glock, CZ, Canik, Colt. I have a Steyer that starting doing this after 200 rounds. Then, 200 rounds later, the issue went away. If Canik does learn that the recoil spring assembly is wrong for the gun, they will soon offer replacements. No, I do not work for either Canik or Century Arms, just saying.
I appreciate the input, thanks! 👍 And don’t worry about getting shot down, my subscribers are mostly reasonable people. I tend to repel the a-holes. Personally, I prefer guns that don’t need a 700+ round break-in period. And I don’t think I’m willing to drop another couple hundred bucks on ammo to find out. Regardless of the out of battery problem, it bugs me that the firing pin is capable of hitting the primer out of battery. So once it’s repaired and cleared by Century Arms, I’ll probably part with it. Lots of other incredible options on the market 👍
Can you ever really trust it as a CCW after you hat though? I understand the engineering explanation you gave, but would you not always have a nagging worry at the back of your mind after going through all that?
Hey that was a great reply and it sounds like that is possible bc I had an issue like that with a colt15 AR and they told me to shoot some more rds thru it, and sure enough the problem went away and I’ve since put idk how many rds thru it but I know it’s in the k’s
Thanks for that info. My son has had one of these and shot hundreds of rounds with no problems. I shot 200 rounds through his gun myself. So, I just bought one myself. I’ll be watching for any issues.
100 to 150 rounds before consider gtg on a carry gun. Before you start flaming me. I was in the military and then a cop / instructor for 30 years, so I'm used to trusting my life to "good enough for government work". I've also had a heart attack, so I'm positive that a Bacon cheeseburger is most likely my assassin.
I agree. I do the same thing if it’s a familiar platform that I have a lot of experience with like Glock or beretta m9 platform. If it’s a new platform like this, I’m going run it pretty hard. Kills me when I hear dudes saying “you have to run 5k rounds” through any new gun to trust it. They also need to reliaze any weapon can fuck up at anytime ? Why I try to go with something more proven.
I think a 1000 round minimum is a good starting point for trusting your life to a firearm. Not only will that test the mechanics and reliability of the gun, it will also help you become more familiar with the gun as well.
@@NightwoodGuns my mc9 has run about 1250 rounds of 115 and 1500 rounds of 124 had only one issue in the first 100 rounds of 115 it sucks people are having issues with it because its a great firearm and it might be because i got a late model its my daily now
I feel ya. I was just about to give it a glowing review right before my issues popped up. Canik/Century Arms' ineptitude and failed attempts to fix it is enough to keep me away from the company for a while. But every owner is a single data point and I'm glad your's has been good to go! Some other recent purchasers in my comments were not as lucky.@@wildinlife7858
It is so rare to find a review that actually goes into the negatives of the gun. Almost every review out there feels like a promotional video where every single gun is apparently fantastic, and it's just impossible to know which gun is best or which review is honest. Thank you for the honest review. You earned yourself a like & subscribe.
Welcome to the channel! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! 😎👍 I feel the same way and it’s actually one of the main reasons I made the channel. Trying to be the change I want to see 😅
Dunno what reviews you're watching, but personally I get tired of biased reviews that constantly harp on nonexistent negatives. For example: I watched a guys horribly biased review on the SUB2k. Certainly not a top of the line gun, but innovative, reliable and fun none the less. He constantly compared the little PCC to an AR-15 which is like comparing a Fiero to a Ferrari. He complained that it said "Glock 19" on the side. "Is that in case you forget what kind of ammo it takes?" Uh, my Glock 19 has the same thing printed on it. He complained that it was made of "plastic". (It's polymer.) He didn't mention that the stock, pistol grip and fore grip on his AR was made of the same stuff. The guy went on and on just digging for negative things to say. I shot this guy down countering every one of his negatives. No response. This review wasn't bad. He honestly talks about his personal experience which is appreciated, but he is in the minority when it comes to experiencing the issues he described. I'd suggest simply locking the slide back and storing the pistol in his safe for a week or so and see if the issue clears up.
I'm not a basement dwelling douche slide rider. I own 5 caniks. I posted my video online to let other people know it was happening. It's been back to Canik once and less than 200 rounds in since I got it back it's doing it again. I'm sending it back to Canik again this week. BTW I drop 10 to 15 k rounds down range a year. I expect my carry guns to go 1000 rounds without a failure without being cleaned. That's just the way I am. Thanks for checking out my post and thanks for making this review. I appreciate the thoroughness.
My video posted. People criticizing that I don't unsqueeze trigger. Obviously never learned about trigger reset ;-) ruclips.net/video/R7PnIo8MdfY/видео.html
Oh I should say.. Canik replaced the recoil spring, I believe it's actually the extractor spring, but who knows what they will replace this time. The spring IS tight as you mentioned.
Wow, too bad YT buried your video in the algorithm. If I would have found it, your comment section would have provided even *more* examples of people having problems for my video. You sent it back to Canik and it’s back to doing it again? Jeez. I’m going to pin your comment for a bit so people can see. Thanks for sharing! 😎👍
@@NightwoodGuns I will update you when I get it back for a second time. My favorite part was where they test fired it 12 rounds and called it good As soon as I get it back a second time I'll let you know!
For you guys having issues with this MC9 staying out of battery and pulling the trigger and comes forward with a light primer impact, just replace the striker spring. That’s what holding the slide back a few millimeters. Try the striker spring from Sprinco 6.5 pounds
This is why you don’t buy a gun for self defense unless it’s been proven by military or law enforcement . Glock, M&P, sig Sauer (ehh) just saying military and law enforcement are going to be harder on their equipment than most people
@@gabehorn5079 When the Turkish military start's using it in war time and gets proven let us know. Hand picked guns sent for trials don't prove anything.
@@spenceredwards4868if you have any doubts on which will fit you can send them an email, on my experience with Galloway Precision if you email them early on the morning you will have a response the same day or early the next day, unless you email on a Friday
My new favorite gun tuber. The in depth, honest reviews are just not something I see much when it comes to products now a days. Even with other products its hard to find youtubers who are not biased. Please dont change and keep making videos!! I look forward to every video you upload. Kudos!
Thanks for the heads up. I honestly think most people who buy a carry/sd gun rarely shoot more than 500rds through it during the entire time they own it. If they shoot it at all, it's a few mags to get a feel for it, then it goes in the nightstand and/or gets carried on occasion when they feel the need. They aren't gun enthusiasts and don't train, don't watch RUclips videos about guns, and aren't worried that their gun won't work when they need it to, in the same way they expect a new car to start and run every time. I appreciate your content and agree wholeheartedly about the diminished value of the paid promotion of new firearms in the guntuber space. I'd much rather see an actual legit test and assessment, backed up with logical reasoning. I find that consistently on your channel, so thank you and keep them coming. I'll try to watch and comment, going forward, even when I'm not interested in the subject of your content.
Thanks for this comment. I 100% agree, you nailed the truth 👍 And I truly appreciate the support. Keeping this channel alive is a challenge, and you guys are the ones who make it happen. So thank you 🙏
I’m a novice but for me it’s the other way around. The gun I’m trusting my life to I want to put a lot of rounds through it. I’d probably shoot it a little more than my range gun. Ironically my range gun is a Canik (SFT Pro) and I love it. The MC9 was at the top of my list for carry when I first saw it but then all the problems starting showing and I wouldn’t trust it as far as I can throw it. Probably going to go with Walther as they will take my Canik mags too.
Wish I saw this before buying. I fell for all the fan boys promoting it on RUclips. It is terrible. So many issues. And Canik / Century Arms simply does not reply to emails and has no one manning the phone. Disappointing as heck.
This is why Brett is one of the best RUclipsrs for gun reviews. Thorough, honest, and hardworking. He’s not here for the freebies, he’s here to give us a good review.
Took the plunge and bought one last week made in August 2023. Shoots well and love weight compared to my SC Elite with brass back strap. Had failure to feed with JHP after 100 rounds and letting slide sit open for 48 hours. Requested a new recoil spring since I shoot 115 gr. We'll see how it goes before I start polishing ramp cutting extractor spring or returning to Canik😮
I own 6 Caniks. First I bought was the TPSFX. Internet stated a micro crack in the frame. Cautious I sent an email to century, they said to mail it to them and they replaced. Second issue, my 6th Canik, the MC9… none of the battery or trigger issues. I had fail to feeds. The first one had a high shelf on the barrels causing feed issues. Sent it back and within 2 weeks my fixed MC9 was just delivered back to me. Thank for the video. I will be buying the Combat TTI when it’s released!
Those are usually solid brands. I don’t trust any company, though. Each individual gun has to earn my trust 😂 I’ve even had an HK USP compact fail on me.
I prefer SIGs and Walthers and would never take a Springfield over either ever unless it was a Prodigy and even then I'd prefer a Bul Armory SAS II TAC over the Prodigy have had a XDM 4.5 40S&W and a XDM 5.25 9mm no longer have either nor do l miss either
Update II: I previously reported 3 failures in 500 rounds with the new recoil assembly. However, I continued testing to 1000 rounds. I used 500 rounds of PMC Bronze and did not clean the gun since the 350 rounds (1650 rounds). My expectation was that the pistol would become less reliable over time. I was wrong. I had zero failures. I did have one slow slide return but I suspect that was from an underpowered round. Based on the guntuber who smoothed the frame and eliminated the failure to go into battery problem I hypothesize that the issue was poor quality on a batch of frames and not the recoil assembly causing it to take an inordinate amount breaking period to make the gun reliable. There will be a third update when I go back to the range and test this hypothesis by using the original recoil assembly. I now feel confident enough in the pistol to use in its intended role as a backup to my Shield Plus.
After seeing your review, I feel fortunate that I haven't experienced these issues with the MC9. I've passed the 1200rd mark, but now I feel like I need another 1000rds to feel comfortable. I had been skeptical of Canik in the past and never bought one before this one. If this was my only carry option, I would probably trade it in. Thanks for the in depth review.
That is because your guide rod and spring are correctly installed and his isn’t. My bet is he cleaned the gun right before the horrible event and put the guide rod and spring in either slightly misaligned or more likely on the upper step of the barrel lock. It is a very common occurrence with new Canik owners on both the Elite (non-SC) and the METE MC 9. You will notice it if you know what you are seeing as soon as you put the slide on the frame. It just doesn’t feel quite right. Because it isn’t quite right:
@@kevinallies1014 Quite the assumption. I’m no stranger to Caniks. I’ve owned the Elite and the SFX that ran 100% After the first dead trigger on the MC9 I field stripped the gun, inspected everything, and put it back together (properly. It’s not rocket science) Then the out of battery issue happened after I double checked that everything was in good working order and installed properly.
Yep, he was sent the MC9. I wonder why he didn’t just buy one, it’s pretty darn cheap. I always appreciate his reviews where he uses patreon money to purchase the guns so you know there are no strings attached.
@@NightwoodGuns Yes, and he says it won't ever compromise his opinion of the gun but you'd think it would have to be in the back of his mind..Has this gun sent been Cherry Picked for review(like the MC9)?
Thank you for this great review and reminding us about other channels and how they might operate. I appreciate that you bought this yourself and are letting us know about your experience. I picked mine up over a week ago and prepped it for the range this past weekend and it ran with no issues with three different brands and grains of 50 rounds each. I am hoping that it goes well past 500+ rounds but I will definitely hold off on putting it into the carry rotation until I have 1,000+ through it I guess, plus continue to follow what happens with the MC9 overall and I will update if anything goes wrong on future range days.
I was going to go purchase a canik mc9 tomorrow morning. After watching your video, I think I'll wait a while longer. Thanks for the informative video.
I was about to buy this and trade my 43x in but I’m good. NEVER had a problem with none of my glocks. I do have a canik rival that when first shot on the third round had a light strike but nothing else after.
No issues with my Springfield Hellcats. I try to stay with the pistols I shoot the most. 1911’s, Glocks, or Hellcats. As EDC Pistols. Reliability Reasons. Stay with what works… don’t put your life on the line with something that is not proven with 500 or more rounds fired by you, with 0 malfunctions. Beretta Sr.
I just bought the MC9 and have never had issues like this out of the box. 20 out of the first 100 rounds had the same battery issue and the mags have the same issue not sliding out. It blows my mind that manufactures will put these on the shelves with problems like this. I’ve purchased many handguns and they always run smooth out of the box. Even my first gun - a Taurus g3c has run smoothly for thousands of rounds without any hiccups.
Yet Canik defenders will say that mine is an isolated issue. Despite all of the comments like yours. This experience has soured me on the brand. Customer service has been a nightmare, too.
@@NightwoodGuns They're defending it because it eats them alive knowing that other people have better made pistols than they do. Caniks are cheap pistols with good factory triggers. I have trouble believing that a turkey company is going to test their pistols like an American or Germany company. There's no way that canik properly tested the mc9.
@@Shenmue06 bingo. I returned 2 and had the same issue each time. Working with them now for a refund direct from Century Arms. Really frustrating. Going to a slightly larger Walther PDP F 3.5” for CC AIWB
@@kickingworld walther is the name brand of canik. Being cheap when it comes to guns is usually a huge mistake. A canik is fine for competition but not for concealed carry. That's my opinion.
@@Shenmue06 hi. No. I think Century Arms is the company behind Canik. Walther is its own entity I believe. Not related. Canik basically tried to knocked off some features of Walther such as their trigger.
You presented your experience and I think we all respect that. I bought one of these and after 1200 rounds of various types of ammo, there have been no issues. My magazines drop out perfectly fine. Ticking time bomb - maybe/maybe not? With 200 round range days, it has never torn my hand up as you described. It has been a pleasure to shoot. (I also have a Rival with 2000+ rounds and it has been flawless.) Two months before I got the MC9, I got an IWI Masada 9S. I also have 1200 rounds through it and again, not one issue. It is a great pistol. I enjoy both and work them through my EDC rotation, with the primary being a CZ 75 PCR. What could improve your video, is also talking about what steps you have taken to identify the reason(s) for these issues and then try to rectify the problems you are experiencing. I think that would be of the most value to your viewers who are having similar/same issues.
Yeah. Videos have to have drama.... right? Everyone I've seen complaining are slider riders..... add the claim above of "not being clean"..... and you have "some" of the issue here. At least from my opinion. These type of video are getting "attention". That is the point.
agreed. you have a great point about how he could have identified the problems and how to fix it, rather than saying that "Canik poo pooed his review."
Got my SECOND replacement of this from Century Arms and still having nose diving issues and failure to return to battery? It seems they won't own up to it that there are known issues. First 300 rounds no issues, at 300-500 it was a crapshoot as to if it would chamber a round, get stuck in the bottom of the feedramp, magazine follower not work and stay in battery after the last round, or the reverse and stay out of battery with rounds still in mag. It's a shame but I've lost any confidence in this company and specific model and can't trust it. Wish there were more fully ambidextrous options in this size.
@@NightwoodGuns get this. I also ordered 2 separate magazines from a reseller and the followers were installed backwards from Canik. That was the last straw for me. But CA agreed to start a refund. I had to mail it in and they I guess send the refund to the FLL who then refunds the consumer. We shall see. Either way I definitely didn’t want to risk it and roll the dice keeping it any longer. Way too many issues.
@@kickingworld Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. That’s insane. I have liked Canik in the past, but this has completely soured me on the entire brand. I’m sure I’ll still review them, but I’d never personally buy one for self defense after this.
I got the IWI Masada Slim when it first came out at the end of 2022 and have been carrying it for 8 months. It is my favorite micro compact by far, even my P365X has only been carried about 10 times since I vetted the Slim. I now have 2,450 rounds thru it from 17 different types of ammo and not one malfunction. The trigger is better than all of the other micros I own and it has less recoil too. IWI is flat out awesome and they look good too. The ergos on this feel very similar to the P365X/XL to those wondering. This thing is perfect for me. Also it is 13+1 with a flush mag so capacity is nice.
I don't know about bravery... but I appreciate the sentiment. As long as I can keep getting Patrons and channel sponsors, I can keep making honest videos. Thanks for the comment! 👍
I just saw one of these today at the gun store. I was looking for a Glock 43X MOS. One of the guys there introduced me to one of these. After watching over a dozen video on these I will definitely be going with the Glock.
My friend and I both purchased the MC9, and had the same issues. Mine started after less then 20 rounds, his happened at over 50 but under 100 rounds. I was able to get a hold of someone at Canik initially and they told me it was a known issue and to email as well for replacement spring. That's what bothers me is it's a known issue and there is no recall or notice on Canik's website. Leading people to just think, Ill throw this on and I'm good to carry right off the bat. Which you should always train with your carry gun before you carry it, but honestly we all know many wont and just put it on because they are confident with other guns. Also to note the spring did not arrive in time frame they told me it would, so I had to contact their support again to find out it never shipped to begin with. So i finally received tracking, and waiting on the spring to arrive this week. I also have a METE SFT, which I recommend to everyone and has been absolutely flawless. So this was a bit of a disappointment. Im hoping the spring fixes everything and I'll be good to go, but we'll see.
Sorry to hear that, but thanks for sharing. I’m battling customer service now myself. You hit the nail on the head about people carrying it without vetting it. If it’s a known issue, they need to make it right.
I have two Caniks. The TP9 Elite Combat and the SFX Rival Bronze Edition, with a couple thousand rounds down each and they have been perfect. For what ever reason, when the MC9 came out I was highly suspect of this handgun. Then issues started to pop up and people were starting to post their problems. My son was thinking about this handgun and I advised "give this one some time". After this review I'll suggest the Springfield Hellcat Pro or a SIG P365 Tacops. Thanks for your honesty!!
I’ve had great experiences with the bigger Caniks, too. Hopefully this does not indicate a downward trend for Canik’s future offerings. Hellcats and P365s are usually good to go reliability-wise, so that’s good advice. Shield Plus and G48/43x are usually solid, too. 👍
@nightwoodguns I understand the hesitance, but it's just hard to write it off completely. They have been having great quality control for the last 3 or 4 years and have come out with great models at great price points. Sig had their hiccups and then rectified the issues. Shadow Systems, even though the ergos are nice, they give off like a Gucci snobbish vibes, and still they had their 200+ round break in period. At that price point, it doesn't seem like juice is worth the squeeze. I think in a few months, I might consider purchasing depending on how @Canik responds to any youtubers like yourself. Great content, and thanks for the reply and conversation.
I have an Sig Sauer P365 XL I love it. I was thinking of picking up CANIK Mete cause of the trigger feel and how compact it is for edc. But glad I came through this video and watched the cons on this gun.
Depends on the brand. With a Glock if it runs 300 I’m good. Same for Sig and S&W as long as it’s a long standing and tested model. Everything else around 500.
Have you tried troubleshooting the problem(s)? Have you ever cleaned the firing pin and firing pin channel or the firing pin block channel? Does your cleaning regimen include the fire control parts? Have you examined the recoil spring assembly for binding? Do you plan to send it back to Canik to fix? While you're clearly having problems, I'd like to know what you plan to do to correct them. I'm not defending your MC9 but I'm curious about what corrective actions you've tried and will be trying.
I clean my guns after almost every shooting session, but you really shouldn't have to. It shouldn't be necessary to clean a pistol after 500-700 rounds to keep it running reliably.
@@hartsickdisciple You didn't answer the question about what you intend to do WRT having the MC9 fixed. The frequency of cleaning is dependent upon much more than round count. The conditions the gun is used in, how dirty the powder in the cartridges is and how much residue they leave. Some powders leave granules behind that get into the works. Does the lube last? I use grease on my slides and it stays put for a long time. I clean every 100 rounds or so.
As I mentioned in the video, I’m still waiting to hear back from Century Arms. The person on the phone wouldn’t speak to me and told me to send an email. I’ve been waiting ever since. If a gun needed to have the firing pin channel or fire control parts deep-cleaned every 700 rounds to function, that would be a BAD look. Regardless, firing pin/striker channel look clean as do the fire control parts. Gun was field stripped and cleaned with CLP after every range trip and oiled with Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil. Just like every other gun I own.
@@HSmith-uk9hl Will do. I’ll definitely pin a comment and do a channel post. If anything substantial happens and it’s worthy of a follow-up video I’ll be sure to do one 👍
I usually put 1,000rds through my EDC. I rotate between 5 different pistols depending on what I’m wearing or what I’m doing but i like to get a good thousand through any pistol before i trust it and i always mix up the type of ammo. I’ll mix different grains, +P, +P+, HP, FMJ, steel jacket, aluminum and brass.
I grabbed one when they came out and immediately had issues. Never had problems with past Caniks, but I won't buy another anytime soon if ever, you aren't alone lol.
When the Springfield Hellcat first came out, they send me a sample. I didn’t care for it and gave my honest opinion on my videos. Springfield has never returned my phone call or any sort of communication since. Subscribed.
Yep. Smith, among many others, is the same way. They go by “the unspoken rule.” Other manufacturers definitely get more hands-on with agreements. Thanks for the sub 😎👍
Extremely well put together and thought out video. I sincerely hope Canik is able to work out the major design issues and flaws because you're right, the trigger and shootability is phenomenal but definitely should not be trusted at this point. Continue knocking it out of the park man 🙌🔥
never had problems with my Canik, so this could be a one off situation. still a good review, every gun review out there is going to have a positive and a negative.
Dude you watching him like hold in the trigger, a magazine stretch would fix it!!! When you shoot that dang much you need to get all those rounds through it, cut a line off the spring!
This is becoming the best channel for honesty and solid content on gun tube….everyone has to make a living we all should be adults and understand that concept to be true. But when a major player in the industry (like it or not canik is major now days) is having issues with carry guns!? Man they should know Sig is who we rely on to shoot us without us knowing.
I was kicking the tires looking at the Mossberg MC2sc with the Canik mete and was almost going to buy the Canik until I saw your video review on this gun. I really appreciate your honesty in your review and for explaining the relationship between gun manufacturers and reviewers which was something I wasn’t aware of. Think I’ll have to keep “kicking the tires” for a good sub compact.
Its a design flaw with some striker fired guns. When you maintain pressure on the trigger, during the firing sequence, (slide cycles and is returning to fully in battery) the trigger mechanism during the reset sequence can create additional drag causing the pistol to return to battery slowly or not at all. The manufacturer/importer tries to band-aid it by using a heavier recoil spring, obscuring one problem and creating another. Try holding the trigger rearward under excess tension/pressure on a weapon that exhibits this problem (hanging up on the reset), then cycle the action, you'll notice when the trigger pressure is relaxed the weapon will return to battery somewhat normally.
I have an update. I received a new recoil spring and put the pistol through a 500 reliability test. There was a significant improvement but I still had 3 failures to go into battery. One at about 200 rounds. One at about 350 rounds and a final one at round 499. I fired 120 rounds one handed, 60 rounds with each hand and had zero failures. I also felt a couple of rounds where the slide felt slow but I was using weak 115 grain range ammo. I will run another 500 rounds through to see if things get worse or improve. At this point Indon't I am going to trust beyond an emergency and don't want to put it back in circulation. I guess I am stuck with it.
@@NightwoodGuns have you looked at the slide to see if the plastic goes above the frame rails? That and polishing the feed ramp fixed the problem for a lot of folks.
Solid honest review. I ve see mostly positive reviews on all firearms yet I had to send one back to manufacturer. The heavy slide and extended mag turn me away from this firearm. You're the only reviewer to mention it.
Canik and Springfield keep throwing out freebies to the big channels, and get surprisingly perfect reviews every time. Amazing how that works. I think half the customers, who actually buy it themselves, take their Canik out once or twice, then label better than a Glock or S&W.
Never knew that was how the evaluation process worked. I frequently cut off videos and give them a like, whether I liked the results or not. The presenters gave me their opinion. I like it, and cease wasting time because I have the answer I was looking for.
That makes sense 👍 But things are weird behind the scenes. If you want to support your favorite channels here’s the order: subscribe, watch the whole video, comment, click on another one of their suggested videos, like their videos.
I now have over 1500 rounds through my MC9 and not one failure. No magazine release issues, no failure to feed, no failures whatsoever. I cleaned the gun when I first got it and then kept the slide stored back for 5 days before I went to the range as I waited until my new holster showed up. I used Federal and Blazer 115 grain and nothing wrong. It is a great weapon and I carry it everyday.
So I got my mc9 about a month ago, I immediately replaced my taurus g2s with it as my daily carry gun. I've gone to the range and put 2 or 3 hundred rounds through it with out any issues. Now you have got me nervous. I'm wondering if I should quit practicing with it and only carry it or should I shoot the piss out of it and see if I have the same issues. It's a night and day difference next to my taurus but I've put a few thousand through my 200 g2s and finally had a jam after almost a year of not cleaning it. The trigger is garbage, I don't like having a safety for my Carry gun and it only holds 8 rounds. Now I'm torn
Well this is disappointing to see. I just purchased this and shot 100 rounds through it on day one with no malfunctions. Thank you for your honest review and information about this firearm, I will push more rounds through my MC9 to see if it has any of these mentioned malfunctions. I thought this pistol performed so well and was fun to shoot but after seeing this I am going to have to put it through the test. Thank you for the honest video. Sincerely, your new subscriber.
I’m a Canik fan, I have a standard tan TP9SF and a two tone Mete SFX that I really enjoy shooting in competitions. I just bought one of these in two tone about a week ago to match my Mete SFX. I shot it for the first time this weekend. Only put 5 mags of Winchester 115 FMJ through it so far. I’ll keep an eye out for any issues. Thanks for the heads up. Hilliker Holster Co. makes nice quality holsters for this pistol already. I think you earned a new subscriber! Much love from Texas!
I have that gun and I thought your review was absolutely absurd until I got to about 750 rounds and I even cleaned it after 500 round and I’ll be damned if it did not do the same thing to me
Bought mine the day before this video came out and the other videos I watched made this firearm look great! Took mine to the range today, out of battery problems already!! Love my TP9 Elite SC so I'm highly disappointed in the MC9! Accurate as heck, but absolutely unreliable! Wish I would have seen this video first. Also subscribed! Have a blessed day!
Bought mine and had the same battery issue. Went home thinking I bought a paperweight. A couple of helpful You Tube videos later and with 15 minutes of time and some fine sandpaper and the gun now works flawlessly. No new recoil spring. Never ever tried to contact the manufacturer. Went shooting today and shot over 200 rounds with the same ammo that didn't work before. I also used some heavier rounds and not one single battery, ftf or fte problem. With that out of the way I can enjoy my MC9 and work on improving my shooting skills. Even my wife enjoyed firing it.
Great honest review sir. Just picked this up for my wife a week ago, and it shoots like a dream, but just a few hundred rounds so far. I was seriously considering selling my Hellcat (because it’s so darn snappy) and getting one for myself. Now I may wait and see how this one performs.
I bought a TP9 Elite SC when they first came out. It jammed pretty regular with different ammo. I contacted Canik. They were already aware of the issue and mailed me a slightly lower pound “blue” marked guide rod & recoil spring, which made it run 100% reliable.
Your problem is your guide rod and spring but it isn’t the manufacturers fault. Pop it out and reinstall it and your out of battery problems will magically disappear. The one point you do actually have is how abysmal that Century Arms Customer Service is. Unless you harass them they will wait months to fix anything.
@@kevinallies1014 After the dead trigger I field stripped it and inspected everything and put it back together. The out of battery issue on camera was after popping it out, inspecting it for issues, and reinstalling it… So… Yeah. After the light strike out of battery I chose not to shoot it any more until speaking to Century Arms. Which is taking forever.
I was searching for a Canik and couldnt find em anywhere locally. I found a used TP9 elite SC and bought it. Very happy with it and Im so glad they didn't have a Mete because I probably would have picked it instead.
I recently bought the Mc9. Had to send it back due to feed issues with HP rounds. I got it back today. Unfortunately because of weather, I gotta wait to test it again.
I had a similar experience with a Glock 26 , the first time it happened was right about the 1500 round mark. thereafter it would happen about every 4-5 hundred rounds. This was with regular maintenance. I bought it new and I kept a log of all shots fired until I sold it.
I bought a used Glock 19 a few years ago and had a similar experience but my Glock was a Gen 2 made in June 1989. Long story short it was not reliable until I changed out the striker spring, recoil spring and mag springs. Now it is 100%. Its too bad... and Century's offerings were getting a better rep.
1000 rounds is my metric to reach without a repeated malfunction. 1 failure to eject, 1 out of battery issue, etc, I’m willing to blame on 1-2 in 1000 rounds of ammo not being up to par. That being said, I just got home from the range, and at about 700-900 rounds total through my MC9, I started experiencing issues. I physically cannot lock the slide back; it simply won’t go back far enough, even when I use the optic as a handle. I’ve emailed customer support and will see what comes of it. I’m hoping for a permanent fix, because until today, I’ve loved everything about this gun.
People say I’m full of crap that this pistol can develop problems around that round count. It’s a huge bummer and I’m sorry it happened to you. Super frustrating and I can’t believe the MC9 is still having these problems.
@@NightwoodGuns you’re definitely not full of crap. The issue was non-existent until I noticed I was struggling to lock the slide back in dry fire exercises a couple days ago. I cleaned it, oiled it, and even oiled the guide rod a little. When I went to the range today, I got through 100 rounds, no problem. The next 50 rounds gave me probably 15-20 malfunctions. My hope, of course, is that they’ve sorted it out by now, given how many people have reported the same issue. I swapped my p365 for the MC9, and I shoot the Canik a lot better. I’m expecting Canik will send me a new guide rod, and I’ll try to remember to update here after 1000 rounds or a repeat issue.
@@NightwoodGuns update so far: Canik is clearly well aware of the issue, since I described my issue, and they didn’t even ask any follow up questions, they just shipped me a new guide rod. The issue is that the larger, muzzle end recoil spring tends to bend at the base, protruding slightly. The new guide rod has a heavier spring, which hopefully will be a permanent fix. I’ve only put a hundred rounds through it, but for anyone having the same issue, the culprit is the larger diameter spring on the guide rod. I also went ahead and used a bench sander to file down the protruding bit of spring on the old guide rod, which also works, so in a pinch, I have a backup. I’ll try to remember to come back and update after 1000 rounds. If the problem resurfaces, I’m gonna ask them to swap it out for a TP9 SC, since it’s a similar size, just wider. My TP9 Elite SF has been flawless, so I would expect similar reliability from the SC, but hopefully it doesn’t come to that. PS. I emailed Century Arms about this problem, and they got back to me the same day to tell me that my new guide rod was on order. It took a couple weeks to arrive, but they got on it right away, so that’s worth noting. The response was immediate, no runaround whatsoever, so kudos to them for not beating around the bush at all.
@@SubDMBlime Thanks for the update. From comments and messages I’ve received. It seems the new guide rod/recoil spring helps 1 out of 10 people. For me, it fixed it for about 200 rounds then it started failing again. Hopefully it works better for you 👍
After listening to your evaluation of this gun, I'll continue carrying my Shield Pus and a Glock 19 in my carry rotation. I have watched other vids on this gun and those are mostly positive, but the Shield Plus and the Glock 19 are time-tested, reliable guns. Excellent presentation.
FYI in 7+ years of a State CCW Class, the ones that NEVER have an issue are the Glocks (not heavily altered) and Shields. ALL of the rest can be iffy! Of course, this is only anecdotal and not the result of a scientific study.
I randomly stumbled upon this video and I am super appreciative of it. I was so close to getting one of these but now I think I'll wait till they work out the problems. Cheers!
I have a MC9 and put 3 or 4 rounds through it and everyone them failed to feed. I polished the feed ramp no change. The recoil spring I trimmed a half a round off. 300 rounds last week without a failure and I just bought it last month. They wanted me to send it back to them and be without it. They make a piece to fill in the bottom of the clip. I have a holster for another gun and it fits PERFECT. I just took it to the store and tried it in every one that looked like it fit.
So I’ve reached the point in gun collecting/shooting where I’m faced with the choice of either starting to acquire “lesser-priced” firearms that have mixed reviews or purchasing “over priced” high end boutique firearms that have diminishing returns other than plain ol cool factor bragging rights. In the end I tend to pretty much keep what I’ve got so far and try to get back to training and building my ammo piles
@@NightwoodGuns I know your being diplomatically friendly about it as I’ve seen some of your boutique firearms. Between parenting, mortgage, student loans, 3rd child on the way, alimony 🤦🏻♂️ (but soon to expire🕺🏻) it’s hard to justify adding a Staccato, CZ Parrot, or what I’m really after which is a Galil 308.
Thank you for your honesty. I sure hope that if the out of battery problem really extends as broad as you think it does, that canik gets on it quick and corrects it fast. This is disappointing, to say the least.
My first carry gun when I was an Asst DA was a Walther PP (.280) that I bought from a retiring cop for $175 - over 40 years ago. Have put over 7500 rounds through it over the DECADES. Total number of malfunctions? Zero. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Less than the square root of negative bupkis. None. 43 years. 7500 rounds.
@@m4rvinmartian That his Walther pistol is reliable and he is happy with it , is that so hard to understand ? So do you have a reading comprehension skill problem because you cannot understand his very simple statement ?
It’s good your putting this information out. From what I’ve seen from watching way too much GunTube every manufacturer and every model has the possibility of issues from $200 to $2,000. Before the MC9 I was dead set on wanting a Shadow Systems CR920 which is double the price and has issues all over GunTube. Honestly now I’m leaning thirds carrying the Walther PDP F 3.5. The “higher end” Canik, lol. It’s probably the only conceal carry that has all the features I want while having the least complaints that I’ve seen. Anyway thanks again for your honesty. I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah, the industry has shifted toward shipping a gun they think *might* work (after cutting corners for cost) and then beta testing on consumers. It’s morally corrupt to do that with life saving equipment and it has to stop. PDP is definitely a solid choice 👍
The CR 920 has issues all over RUclips because most RUclipsrs think they know shit that they don’t actually know. The manufacturer tells THEM and everyone else that the gun has a break in period: But because most RUclipsrs are used to shooting cheap ass Glock garbage they don’t know what a break in period is.
Shield Plus here with absolutely no issues. Been saturated with RUclips videos saying how the Canik is the superior firearm to have and how the trigger will make you a professional grade shooter blah blah blah. Then, I wonder, did I make a mistake? After this video and several others describing the same issues I would say not.
I own 2 caniks the mete SFT and the TP9 elite sc. so far they both have run great. I even upgraded the trigger on my TP9 to a freedomsmith trigger which is absolutely an awesome trigger because it hit the wall as soon as you get the trigger safety up so no more of the long take up that the stock trigger has. Hopefully the issues you’re having is only common on the model you have because I love my caniks & would be sad if they start having issues.
Great review. When I held one in the gun store I thought the rear notches on the grip would be a problem shooting with recoil. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on purchasing it with all the other QC problems.
I primarily carry Glocks and since they have such good track records, I usually just call it good after a dozen or so mags through the gun with a variety of ammo (115, 124, 124+p)
I purchased the mete mc9 so far a few hundred rounds through it with no issues but will be coming up on 700 rounds through it soon thank you for the review and knowledge of what to possibly expect
I own a sarsilmaz 2000 kilinc, Sarsilmaz is a brand that has contracts with many special forces in turkey, and by the time I chose to Buy it, Canik was also an option, but for me, My sarsilmaz looked better built. 3400 rounds, with no issues at all
Once people accused me of lying I went full eagle-eye mode in Colion’s video 😂 The Shield Plus is probably impossible to beat in this category for the price. There are some things I’d change about it, but it’s a fantastic and reliable little blaster 👍
Here's the thing, Canik started out rocky. It took them a few guns to figure it out. Their later model TP and Mete lines had excellent reliability and probably the best out of the box triggers for mass manufactured guns. Then they make an all new design that uses very little of what’s proven in their other guns and barely test it. The MC9 so far has been a bit iffy with reliability, if you look all over various forums, the Canik subreddit and quite a few vids, its had some issues, whereas their other line of pistols pretty much have no problems. Also Canik themselves say its fine to pronounce it as "Kenik".
Add that the MC9 is made in an all new plant in USA. This is the first Canik made in USA. They likely could not sell the MC9 in the USA unless it was made here due to import restrictions. Their prior Mete and Rival models were based on prior TP models so they were not complete new designs like the MC9.
Well, it feels pretty crappy to pay full retail and drop a couple hundred dollars in ammo to be a tester for their new design. A morally corrupt trend in an industry of life saving equipment. But yes, the Elite and SFX I owned prior were 100% solid for me.
I'm new to firearms and would like to get into the sport. This is the first video, I have watched from you. I'm really joyful, that you are so honest and informative. How else would I be able to know about such critical safety problems buying my first pistol! I didn't even know this could happen to a firearm, and the seller would probably not mention it in the store...... Instant sub from me, you deserve to be backed. I'm even contemplating to be your patron already, as only my second ever.
self described canik fanatic, was super stoked for this, glad Im still carrying my tricked out shield gen 1, sure theyll iron this out but damn what a bum start to a new gun, ad GREAT catch with noir video, thats fucking priceless, and of course bought and sold colion didnt say shit
I just don’t want this to become the norm for Canik moving forward. They had a great thing going. Hoping they learn from it. Century Arms customer service is enough to keep me away, though 😬 And yeah, no surprises with Colion. Not gonna throw too much shade, though. He’s a good guy and there’s nothing wrong with raking in some cash while fighting the good fight and shooting guns all day. He’s done a lot more for the 2A than most YT commenters have, ya know? 👍 But it’s still crappy ignoring malfunctions that could get people kilt in the streets in exchange for a check. Appreciate the comment, man! 😎
No battery problems hopefully I won't.I have small hands so the back strap doesn't bother my hand...For reference my hand fits perfect with the shorter mag...I agree on the grip texture . I have handle it grips on mine...really like your content
After reading a few comments, I thought it might help if I gave my experience with the mc9. I too experienced a malfunction like yours. With an out of the box new gun. I was very surprised to see a dry chromed fireing pin. A drop of lube,and the gun has run 500 plus rounds. Without a hiccup. That is my experience with the Canik MC9 so far.
I had same experience with emailing Canik. First email answer was that the new recoil spring had a “C” on it. I wrote back and asked if there’s a manufacturer date or SKU number for reference so that I didn’t have to take the gun apart in a gun shop or what if I buy it from Buds Guns? No reply. Gun quality is a huge disappointment. I was ready to buy this gun just for the fun of it. Why bother? It’s just another questionable product. I hope one day gun manufacturers get into the 21st Century and produce firearms that are dependable. Until then I hope I never need to use my gun in self defense, or…that my attacker bought a gun with more failure problems.
I experienced this right out of the box. Cleaned of course, but its been a sh$t show from the start. Waiting on the new spring now for about 3 weeks. Ive emailed twice and they say not sure whats going on it should have already shipped. This was my first Canik and i was really excited about it. Now it will never be my go to carry gun. Even if it runs after the new spring. Ive mentioned in all my emails about the mags not dropping and they never acknowledge it. Very disappointing. I really think there should be a recall on them.
I’m fighting that same fight right now. This has definitely soured me on the brand. Holy cow, the customer service is rough. They must be overwhelmed with people contacting them about the MC9 and are running out of springs or they have no idea what’s actually causing the problem. Like you said, they ignore questions and clearly don’t care.
That’s why I put a gun through its paces before i feel comfortable carrying or depending on it then I also train about 1 time or more per month and use my carry gun and whatever gun I feel like shooting that day
@nightwoodguns I know this video is a couple of months old. it JUST popped up in my recommendations, so I wanted to give it a watch. I was listening to the problems that you were documenting, and then, at 5:45 where you showed the slowmo of your wife having one of the issues pretty much decided it for me. I'm very convinced that the problem is somewhere in the trigger bar hitting areas that it's not supposed to. In the slowmo, I can clearly see the slide go back into battery when your wife lets off the trigger. Dead trigger, light strikes, failure to go into battery, are all symptoms (when combined) of a trigger bar interfering with the movement of the slide, or the striker. I have a running theory that that polymer used in the frame is too thin. And it's warping. (Evidenced by the issue that some users are getting with their mags not dropping free after a lot of use). Which is changing the internal specs on the trigger bar travel areas.
@@NightwoodGuns Take the slide off, and slowly work the trigger so that you can watch the bar. Take a look for wear there where it should be catching the striker or striker release. Also look to see if it is pushing back too far in the rear. And look to see if it is rubbing on anything there in it's travel groove. Particularly corners of the frame. Sometimes it's the spec on the bar. Slightly not cut to measurement, or a bend or curve that is off by a few degrees. It could also be frame shift. If it's rubbing the frame, take some medium sandpaper and ease down the wear spot. Then light grit to polish and smooth it. My theory is more towards the very end away from the trigger tho. Either being too long, and too much pressure against the rear, which is why it's not going into batttery. Then releasing when let off the trigger. Or that it's causing the striker to not fully release, which is keeping the slide from fully going back into battery.
This is a great video, I think you’re doing the general public a great service by informing us about the truth and I for one greatly appreciate it 👍🙏. Subscribed.
Exactly. This is just one video of someone who bought the gun from a gun store (not provided by Canik) and put 700+ rounds through it. I encourage everyone to watch all of the videos done under similar conditions 👍
I’m glad I found this video! I was about to sell my TP9SC for the MC9! I won’t be doing that now! Still gonna sell my SC because SIL really wants it but I guess I’ll start carrying my Elite Combat!
Dude not sure why I’m just finding you now but, subbed and really appreciate this video. Greg at OG Danger (?) I believe just had a vid w/ one he bought and the slide wouldn’t lock back. Definitely staying away
500 rounds in and now with every other round it has return to battery faliure, good luck tring to get pass Juan, the only customer service representative. ive been after a replacent recoil spring/guide rod for 3 months now.
Impossible. A few people in the comments said theirs has run perfectly for 5 million rounds without issue and that customer service is excellent 😂
I'm literally blocked from canikusa for actively keeping up with my claim.
@@NightwoodGuns they dont want to admit they got duped by the Tuskish Taurus Company. Its ok, tho. "fool me once shame on you" and all that.
@@NightwoodGunslol, im scared to buy this local shop has new $349
@@chillios2222 you'd feel more rewarded if you gambled that money away. In all seriousness get something else, something with a reliable record. dont ignore the red flags like the rest of us.
Great review video. Thanks! If you like the gun (except for the last hundred or so rounds that you fired), Try putting another 300 rounds through it. If Canik does not have an under-engineered recoil spring assembly, the out of battery issue might clear up. I am a certified armourer for Glock and Berretta. The recoil spring is balanced with both the gun's recoil and the interface between the slide rails and frame rails. It is quite possible that the recoil spring found its true compression force before the slide worked in with the frame rails. I hope your viewers don't shoot me down for this, because it is true. I have seen this with many semi-automatic pistols over the years, including Glock, CZ, Canik, Colt. I have a Steyer that starting doing this after 200 rounds. Then, 200 rounds later, the issue went away. If Canik does learn that the recoil spring assembly is wrong for the gun, they will soon offer replacements. No, I do not work for either Canik or Century Arms, just saying.
I appreciate the input, thanks! 👍 And don’t worry about getting shot down, my subscribers are mostly reasonable people. I tend to repel the a-holes. Personally, I prefer guns that don’t need a 700+ round break-in period. And I don’t think I’m willing to drop another couple hundred bucks on ammo to find out. Regardless of the out of battery problem, it bugs me that the firing pin is capable of hitting the primer out of battery. So once it’s repaired and cleared by Century Arms, I’ll probably part with it. Lots of other incredible options on the market 👍
Can you ever really trust it as a CCW after you hat though? I understand the engineering explanation you gave, but would you not always have a nagging worry at the back of your mind after going through all that?
Hey that was a great reply and it sounds like that is possible bc I had an issue like that with a colt15 AR and they told me to shoot some more rds thru it, and sure enough the problem went away and I’ve since put idk how many rds thru it but I know it’s in the k’s
Your comment is a beacon of hope. I’m having the same problem with Micro Dagger.
Thanks for that info. My son has had one of these and shot hundreds of rounds with no problems. I shot 200 rounds through his gun myself. So, I just bought one myself. I’ll be watching for any issues.
Your presentation with no juvenile profanity or 'fluff' is enough for me to complete the videos you offer. Well done!
I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the channel! 👍
100 to 150 rounds before consider gtg on a carry gun. Before you start flaming me. I was in the military and then a cop / instructor for 30 years, so I'm used to trusting my life to "good enough for government work". I've also had a heart attack, so I'm positive that a Bacon cheeseburger is most likely my assassin.
😂 Well said!
I shoot 1000 to 1200 rounds before I consider it to be a good carry gun
I agree. I do the same thing if it’s a familiar platform that I have a lot of experience with like Glock or beretta m9 platform. If it’s a new platform like this, I’m going run it pretty hard. Kills me when I hear dudes saying “you have to run 5k rounds” through any new gun to trust it. They also need to reliaze any weapon can fuck up at anytime ? Why I try to go with something more proven.
I think a 1000 round minimum is a good starting point for trusting your life to a firearm. Not only will that test the mechanics and reliability of the gun, it will also help you become more familiar with the gun as well.
Agreed 👍
@@NightwoodGuns my mc9 has run about 1250 rounds of 115 and 1500 rounds of 124 had only one issue in the first 100 rounds of 115 it sucks people are having issues with it because its a great firearm and it might be because i got a late model its my daily now
I feel ya. I was just about to give it a glowing review right before my issues popped up. Canik/Century Arms' ineptitude and failed attempts to fix it is enough to keep me away from the company for a while. But every owner is a single data point and I'm glad your's has been good to go! Some other recent purchasers in my comments were not as lucky.@@wildinlife7858
It is so rare to find a review that actually goes into the negatives of the gun. Almost every review out there feels like a promotional video where every single gun is apparently fantastic, and it's just impossible to know which gun is best or which review is honest. Thank you for the honest review. You earned yourself a like & subscribe.
Welcome to the channel! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! 😎👍 I feel the same way and it’s actually one of the main reasons I made the channel. Trying to be the change I want to see 😅
Honestly, it's because these guns rarely have these problems, but nothing is perfect. He was just the unlucky one for one that had issues
Dunno what reviews you're watching, but personally I get tired of biased reviews that constantly harp on nonexistent negatives. For example: I watched a guys horribly biased review on the SUB2k. Certainly not a top of the line gun, but innovative, reliable and fun none the less. He constantly compared the little PCC to an AR-15 which is like comparing a Fiero to a Ferrari. He complained that it said "Glock 19" on the side. "Is that in case you forget what kind of ammo it takes?" Uh, my Glock 19 has the same thing printed on it. He complained that it was made of "plastic". (It's polymer.) He didn't mention that the stock, pistol grip and fore grip on his AR was made of the same stuff. The guy went on and on just digging for negative things to say. I shot this guy down countering every one of his negatives. No response.
This review wasn't bad. He honestly talks about his personal experience which is appreciated, but he is in the minority when it comes to experiencing the issues he described. I'd suggest simply locking the slide back and storing the pistol in his safe for a week or so and see if the issue clears up.
Finding actual issues with Canik is what is rare... the MC9 has had some issues, but have been resolved by now.
@@philipbgardnerdo you own this gun? About to go buy it this is the only review ive seen about this issue.
I'm not a basement dwelling douche slide rider. I own 5 caniks. I posted my video online to let other people know it was happening. It's been back to Canik once and less than 200 rounds in since I got it back it's doing it again. I'm sending it back to Canik again this week. BTW I drop 10 to 15 k rounds down range a year. I expect my carry guns to go 1000 rounds without a failure without being cleaned. That's just the way I am.
Thanks for checking out my post and thanks for making this review. I appreciate the thoroughness.
My video posted. People criticizing that I don't unsqueeze trigger. Obviously never learned about trigger reset ;-) ruclips.net/video/R7PnIo8MdfY/видео.html
Oh I should say.. Canik replaced the recoil spring, I believe it's actually the extractor spring, but who knows what they will replace this time. The spring IS tight as you mentioned.
Wow, too bad YT buried your video in the algorithm. If I would have found it, your comment section would have provided even *more* examples of people having problems for my video. You sent it back to Canik and it’s back to doing it again? Jeez. I’m going to pin your comment for a bit so people can see. Thanks for sharing! 😎👍
@@NightwoodGuns I will update you when I get it back for a second time. My favorite part was where they test fired it 12 rounds and called it good As soon as I get it back a second time I'll let you know!
🤦♂️ Wow… Yeah, please keep me posted. Interested to see how it turns out for you. Thanks again for chiming in 👍
I have a Canik Mete SFT and have cycled probably 5000 rounds. Clean or unclean the gun operates flawlessly. I trust it with my life.
I haven’t heard of any issues with the SFT 👍
Good..cause I just bought one ...lol
For you guys having issues with this MC9 staying out of battery and pulling the trigger and comes forward with a light primer impact, just replace the striker spring. That’s what holding the slide back a few millimeters. Try the striker spring from Sprinco 6.5 pounds
This is why you don’t buy a gun for self defense unless it’s been proven by military or law enforcement . Glock, M&P, sig Sauer (ehh) just saying military and law enforcement are going to be harder on their equipment than most people
@@dylanmatlock9258 canik has been proven by the turkish military.
@@gabehorn5079 When the Turkish military start's using it in war time and gets proven let us know. Hand picked guns sent for trials don't prove anything.
Care to provide a link for it? Thank you
@@spenceredwards4868if you have any doubts on which will fit you can send them an email, on my experience with Galloway Precision if you email them early on the morning you will have a response the same day or early the next day, unless you email on a Friday
My new favorite gun tuber. The in depth, honest reviews are just not something I see much when it comes to products now a days. Even with other products its hard to find youtubers who are not biased. Please dont change and keep making videos!! I look forward to every video you upload. Kudos!
Thanks, I appreciate that. 👍 I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the channel!
Thanks for the heads up.
I honestly think most people who buy a carry/sd gun rarely shoot more than 500rds through it during the entire time they own it.
If they shoot it at all, it's a few mags to get a feel for it, then it goes in the nightstand and/or gets carried on occasion when they feel the need.
They aren't gun enthusiasts and don't train, don't watch RUclips videos about guns, and aren't worried that their gun won't work when they need it to, in the same way they expect a new car to start and run every time.
I appreciate your content and agree wholeheartedly about the diminished value of the paid promotion of new firearms in the guntuber space. I'd much rather see an actual legit test and assessment, backed up with logical reasoning. I find that consistently on your channel, so thank you and keep them coming.
I'll try to watch and comment, going forward, even when I'm not interested in the subject of your content.
Thanks for this comment. I 100% agree, you nailed the truth 👍 And I truly appreciate the support. Keeping this channel alive is a challenge, and you guys are the ones who make it happen. So thank you 🙏
I’m a novice but for me it’s the other way around. The gun I’m trusting my life to I want to put a lot of rounds through it. I’d probably shoot it a little more than my range gun. Ironically my range gun is a Canik (SFT Pro) and I love it. The MC9 was at the top of my list for carry when I first saw it but then all the problems starting showing and I wouldn’t trust it as far as I can throw it. Probably going to go with Walther as they will take my Canik mags too.
Wish I saw this before buying. I fell for all the fan boys promoting it on RUclips. It is terrible. So many issues. And Canik / Century Arms simply does not reply to emails and has no one manning the phone. Disappointing as heck.
Yep, they even got ahead of the curve by sending one to Honest Outlaw for free before he could buy one off the shelf.
This is why Brett is one of the best RUclipsrs for gun reviews. Thorough, honest, and hardworking. He’s not here for the freebies, he’s here to give us a good review.
Thanks so much, man. I’m glad you appreciate the reviews. 🙏
Get off his nuts
Bro classic fire arms has shot every canik known to man and has put well over 1,000 plus rounds through every canik out on the market
You've got a little brown something on your nose there, bud.
@@johnathonkeith4798Well why don't you just suck them off?
Took the plunge and bought one last week made in August 2023. Shoots well and love weight compared to my SC Elite with brass back strap. Had failure to feed with JHP after 100 rounds and letting slide sit open for 48 hours. Requested a new recoil spring since I shoot 115 gr. We'll see how it goes before I start polishing ramp cutting extractor spring or returning to Canik😮
Zero problems with mine. However, this is a year after this video so I’m assuming they’ve solved these issues?
I own 6 Caniks. First I bought was the TPSFX. Internet stated a micro crack in the frame. Cautious I sent an email to century, they said to mail it to them and they replaced.
Second issue, my 6th Canik, the MC9… none of the battery or trigger issues. I had fail to feeds. The first one had a high shelf on the barrels causing feed issues. Sent it back and within 2 weeks my fixed MC9 was just delivered back to me. Thank for the video. I will be buying the Combat TTI when it’s released!
That Combat TTI looks awesome! 🙌
Glocks, Springfields, HK, Walther, are the only brands I really trust. SIG has to still earn my trust, but they're getting there.
Those are usually solid brands. I don’t trust any company, though. Each individual gun has to earn my trust 😂 I’ve even had an HK USP compact fail on me.
I prefer SIGs and Walthers and would never take a Springfield over either ever unless it was a Prodigy and even then I'd prefer a Bul Armory SAS II TAC over the Prodigy have had a XDM 4.5 40S&W and a XDM 5.25 9mm no longer have either nor do l miss either
Update II: I previously reported 3 failures in 500 rounds with the new recoil assembly. However, I continued testing to 1000 rounds. I used 500 rounds of PMC Bronze and did not clean the gun since the 350 rounds (1650 rounds). My expectation was that the pistol would become less reliable over time. I was wrong. I had zero failures. I did have one slow slide return but I suspect that was from an underpowered round. Based on the guntuber who smoothed the frame and eliminated the failure to go into battery problem I hypothesize that the issue was poor quality on a batch of frames and not the recoil assembly causing it to take an inordinate amount breaking period to make the gun reliable. There will be a third update when I go back to the range and test this hypothesis by using the original recoil assembly. I now feel confident enough in the pistol to use in its intended role as a backup to my Shield Plus.
same i even ran 1250 of 115 and only had one issue
Any update???
After seeing your review, I feel fortunate that I haven't experienced these issues with the MC9. I've passed the 1200rd mark, but now I feel like I need another 1000rds to feel comfortable. I had been skeptical of Canik in the past and never bought one before this one. If this was my only carry option, I would probably trade it in. Thanks for the in depth review.
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍 I’m glad yours had been trouble-free so far. When did you purchase it, btw?
@nightwoodguns I purchased my MC9 April 22nd.
@@myzuc6385 interesting. I got mine June 5th.
That is because your guide rod and spring are correctly installed and his isn’t. My bet is he cleaned the gun right before the horrible event and put the guide rod and spring in either slightly misaligned or more likely on the upper step of the barrel lock. It is a very common occurrence with new Canik owners on both the Elite (non-SC) and the METE MC 9. You will notice it if you know what you are seeing as soon as you put the slide on the frame. It just doesn’t feel quite right. Because it isn’t quite right:
@@kevinallies1014 Quite the assumption. I’m no stranger to Caniks. I’ve owned the Elite and the SFX that ran 100% After the first dead trigger on the MC9 I field stripped the gun, inspected everything, and put it back together (properly. It’s not rocket science) Then the out of battery issue happened after I double checked that everything was in good working order and installed properly.
But at times even Honest Outlaw also gets guns sent to him..and he makes it clear when that happens.
Yep, he was sent the MC9. I wonder why he didn’t just buy one, it’s pretty darn cheap. I always appreciate his reviews where he uses patreon money to purchase the guns so you know there are no strings attached.
@@NightwoodGuns Yes, and he says it won't ever compromise his opinion of the gun but you'd think it would have to be in the back of his mind..Has this gun sent been Cherry Picked for review(like the MC9)?
Thank you for this great review and reminding us about other channels and how they might operate. I appreciate that you bought this yourself and are letting us know about your experience. I picked mine up over a week ago and prepped it for the range this past weekend and it ran with no issues with three different brands and grains of 50 rounds each. I am hoping that it goes well past 500+ rounds but I will definitely hold off on putting it into the carry rotation until I have 1,000+ through it I guess, plus continue to follow what happens with the MC9 overall and I will update if anything goes wrong on future range days.
Glad you enjoyed the review! Definitely keep us posted if anything changes 👍
I was going to go purchase a canik mc9 tomorrow morning. After watching your video, I think I'll wait a while longer. Thanks for the informative video.
Yep, I would definitely wait. Probably a year to be sure.
Excellent, non-biased, and not corporate bought review. I am now subscribed.
Welcome to the channel! I’m glad you enjoyed the review 👍
I was about to buy this and trade my 43x in but I’m good. NEVER had a problem with none of my glocks. I do have a canik rival that when first shot on the third round had a light strike but nothing else after.
Glocks are usually a safe bet. This gun: not so much…
No issues with my Springfield Hellcats. I try to stay with the pistols I shoot the most. 1911’s, Glocks, or Hellcats. As EDC Pistols. Reliability Reasons. Stay with what works… don’t put your life on the line with something that is not proven with 500 or more rounds fired by you, with 0 malfunctions.
Beretta Sr.
Agreed! Thanks for your input, Sr. 😎👍
I just bought the MC9 and have never had issues like this out of the box. 20 out of the first 100 rounds had the same battery issue and the mags have the same issue not sliding out.
It blows my mind that manufactures will put these on the shelves with problems like this.
I’ve purchased many handguns and they always run smooth out of the box. Even my first gun - a Taurus g3c has run smoothly for thousands of rounds without any hiccups.
Yet Canik defenders will say that mine is an isolated issue. Despite all of the comments like yours. This experience has soured me on the brand. Customer service has been a nightmare, too.
@@NightwoodGuns They're defending it because it eats them alive knowing that other people have better made pistols than they do. Caniks are cheap pistols with good factory triggers. I have trouble believing that a turkey company is going to test their pistols like an American or Germany company. There's no way that canik properly tested the mc9.
@@Shenmue06 bingo. I returned 2 and had the same issue each time. Working with them now for a refund direct from Century Arms. Really frustrating. Going to a slightly larger Walther PDP F 3.5” for CC AIWB
@@kickingworld walther is the name brand of canik. Being cheap when it comes to guns is usually a huge mistake. A canik is fine for competition but not for concealed carry. That's my opinion.
@@Shenmue06 hi. No. I think Century Arms is the company behind Canik. Walther is its own entity I believe. Not related. Canik basically tried to knocked off some features of Walther such as their trigger.
You presented your experience and I think we all respect that. I bought one of these and after 1200 rounds of various types of ammo, there have been no issues. My magazines drop out perfectly fine. Ticking time bomb - maybe/maybe not? With 200 round range days, it has never torn my hand up as you described. It has been a pleasure to shoot. (I also have a Rival with 2000+ rounds and it has been flawless.)
Two months before I got the MC9, I got an IWI Masada 9S. I also have 1200 rounds through it and again, not one issue. It is a great pistol.
I enjoy both and work them through my EDC rotation, with the primary being a CZ 75 PCR.
What could improve your video, is also talking about what steps you have taken to identify the reason(s) for these issues and then try to rectify the problems you are experiencing. I think that would be of the most value to your viewers who are having similar/same issues.
Yeah. Videos have to have drama.... right? Everyone I've seen complaining are slider riders..... add the claim above of "not being clean"..... and you have "some" of the issue here. At least from my opinion. These type of video are getting "attention". That is the point.
agreed. you have a great point about how he could have identified the problems and how to fix it, rather than saying that "Canik poo pooed his review."
Got my SECOND replacement of this from Century Arms and still having nose diving issues and failure to return to battery? It seems they won't own up to it that there are known issues. First 300 rounds no issues, at 300-500 it was a crapshoot as to if it would chamber a round, get stuck in the bottom of the feedramp, magazine follower not work and stay in battery after the last round, or the reverse and stay out of battery with rounds still in mag. It's a shame but I've lost any confidence in this company and specific model and can't trust it. Wish there were more fully ambidextrous options in this size.
Unbelievable that this is STILL happening 🤦♂️
@@NightwoodGuns get this. I also ordered 2 separate magazines from a reseller and the followers were installed backwards from Canik. That was the last straw for me. But CA agreed to start a refund. I had to mail it in and they I guess send the refund to the FLL who then refunds the consumer. We shall see. Either way I definitely didn’t want to risk it and roll the dice keeping it any longer. Way too many issues.
@@kickingworld Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. That’s insane. I have liked Canik in the past, but this has completely soured me on the entire brand. I’m sure I’ll still review them, but I’d never personally buy one for self defense after this.
I got the IWI Masada Slim when it first came out at the end of 2022 and have been carrying it for 8 months. It is my favorite micro compact by far, even my P365X has only been carried about 10 times since I vetted the Slim. I now have 2,450 rounds thru it from 17 different types of ammo and not one malfunction. The trigger is better than all of the other micros I own and it has less recoil too. IWI is flat out awesome and they look good too. The ergos on this feel very similar to the P365X/XL to those wondering. This thing is perfect for me. Also it is 13+1 with a flush mag so capacity is nice.
My Masada has a ftf every mag
@@AAA22323 yeah ok👌😂😂😂😂😂
@@whatsup24_7 it didn’t start happening until I got over 1000 rounds.
This takes bravery. Your honesty is really appreciated. Thank you!
I don't know about bravery... but I appreciate the sentiment. As long as I can keep getting Patrons and channel sponsors, I can keep making honest videos. Thanks for the comment! 👍
I just saw one of these today at the gun store. I was looking for a Glock 43X MOS. One of the guys there introduced me to one of these. After watching over a dozen video on these I will definitely be going with the Glock.
I’d say that is a good move 😎👍
My friend and I both purchased the MC9, and had the same issues. Mine started after less then 20 rounds, his happened at over 50 but under 100 rounds. I was able to get a hold of someone at Canik initially and they told me it was a known issue and to email as well for replacement spring. That's what bothers me is it's a known issue and there is no recall or notice on Canik's website. Leading people to just think, Ill throw this on and I'm good to carry right off the bat. Which you should always train with your carry gun before you carry it, but honestly we all know many wont and just put it on because they are confident with other guns.
Also to note the spring did not arrive in time frame they told me it would, so I had to contact their support again to find out it never shipped to begin with. So i finally received tracking, and waiting on the spring to arrive this week. I also have a METE SFT, which I recommend to everyone and has been absolutely flawless. So this was a bit of a disappointment. Im hoping the spring fixes everything and I'll be good to go, but we'll see.
Sorry to hear that, but thanks for sharing. I’m battling customer service now myself. You hit the nail on the head about people carrying it without vetting it. If it’s a known issue, they need to make it right.
@nightwoodguns if you submitted your ticket try calling their support as well. If you can't get through to canik, try century arms support number.
I have two Caniks. The TP9 Elite Combat and the SFX Rival Bronze Edition, with a couple thousand rounds down each and they have been perfect. For what ever reason, when the MC9 came out I was highly suspect of this handgun. Then issues started to pop up and people were starting to post their problems. My son was thinking about this handgun and I advised "give this one some time". After this review I'll suggest the Springfield Hellcat Pro or a SIG P365 Tacops. Thanks for your honesty!!
I’ve had great experiences with the bigger Caniks, too. Hopefully this does not indicate a downward trend for Canik’s future offerings. Hellcats and P365s are usually good to go reliability-wise, so that’s good advice. Shield Plus and G48/43x are usually solid, too. 👍
My SFX rival in FDE works perfectly but I don’t have a lot of rounds threw it.
Could just be bad qc from a batch or two. Might be hiccups like how sig once had.
@@curiousjorge Could be. Could also not be. Either way, I won’t be betting my life on it 😅
@nightwoodguns I understand the hesitance, but it's just hard to write it off completely. They have been having great quality control for the last 3 or 4 years and have come out with great models at great price points. Sig had their hiccups and then rectified the issues. Shadow Systems, even though the ergos are nice, they give off like a Gucci snobbish vibes, and still they had their 200+ round break in period. At that price point, it doesn't seem like juice is worth the squeeze. I think in a few months, I might consider purchasing depending on how @Canik responds to any youtubers like yourself. Great content, and thanks for the reply and conversation.
I appreciate you going over the proper American pronunciation of the gun's name before spending 20 minutes beating your Mete on camera.
😏👍 Best comment right here.
I have an Sig Sauer P365 XL I love it. I was thinking of picking up CANIK Mete cause of the trigger feel and how compact it is for edc. But glad I came through this video and watched the cons on this gun.
I’d take a Sig any day over the MC9 👍
Depends on the brand. With a Glock if it runs 300 I’m good. Same for Sig and S&W as long as it’s a long standing and tested model. Everything else around 500.
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Have you tried troubleshooting the problem(s)? Have you ever cleaned the firing pin and firing pin channel or the firing pin block channel? Does your cleaning regimen include the fire control parts? Have you examined the recoil spring assembly for binding? Do you plan to send it back to Canik to fix? While you're clearly having problems, I'd like to know what you plan to do to correct them. I'm not defending your MC9 but I'm curious about what corrective actions you've tried and will be trying.
I clean my guns after almost every shooting session, but you really shouldn't have to. It shouldn't be necessary to clean a pistol after 500-700 rounds to keep it running reliably.
@@hartsickdisciple You didn't answer the question about what you intend to do WRT having the MC9 fixed. The frequency of cleaning is dependent upon much more than round count. The conditions the gun is used in, how dirty the powder in the cartridges is and how much residue they leave. Some powders leave granules behind that get into the works. Does the lube last? I use grease on my slides and it stays put for a long time. I clean every 100 rounds or so.
As I mentioned in the video, I’m still waiting to hear back from Century Arms. The person on the phone wouldn’t speak to me and told me to send an email. I’ve been waiting ever since. If a gun needed to have the firing pin channel or fire control parts deep-cleaned every 700 rounds to function, that would be a BAD look. Regardless, firing pin/striker channel look clean as do the fire control parts. Gun was field stripped and cleaned with CLP after every range trip and oiled with Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil. Just like every other gun I own.
@@NightwoodGuns Please let us know when Century replies and what is done to correct your problems.
@@HSmith-uk9hl Will do. I’ll definitely pin a comment and do a channel post. If anything substantial happens and it’s worthy of a follow-up video I’ll be sure to do one 👍
I usually put 1,000rds through my EDC. I rotate between 5 different pistols depending on what I’m wearing or what I’m doing but i like to get a good thousand through any pistol before i trust it and i always mix up the type of ammo. I’ll mix different grains, +P, +P+, HP, FMJ, steel jacket, aluminum and brass.
Sounds good to me 😎👍
I grabbed one when they came out and immediately had issues. Never had problems with past Caniks, but I won't buy another anytime soon if ever, you aren't alone lol.
Sounds like we are on the same page. 👍
When the Springfield Hellcat first came out, they send me a sample. I didn’t care for it and gave my honest opinion on my videos. Springfield has never returned my phone call or any sort of communication since. Subscribed.
Yep. Smith, among many others, is the same way. They go by “the unspoken rule.” Other manufacturers definitely get more hands-on with agreements. Thanks for the sub 😎👍
Extremely well put together and thought out video. I sincerely hope Canik is able to work out the major design issues and flaws because you're right, the trigger and shootability is phenomenal but definitely should not be trusted at this point. Continue knocking it out of the park man 🙌🔥
Thanks so much, man. I’m glad you enjoyed the review 😎👍
never had problems with my Canik, so this could be a one off situation. still a good review, every gun review out there is going to have a positive and a negative.
Dude you watching him like hold in the trigger, a magazine stretch would fix it!!! When you shoot that dang much you need to get all those rounds through it, cut a line off the spring!
This is becoming the best channel for honesty and solid content on gun tube….everyone has to make a living we all should be adults and understand that concept to be true.
But when a major player in the industry (like it or not canik is major now days) is having issues with carry guns!? Man they should know Sig is who we rely on to shoot us without us knowing.
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I was kicking the tires looking at the Mossberg MC2sc with the Canik mete and was almost going to buy the Canik until I saw your video review on this gun. I really appreciate your honesty in your review and for explaining the relationship between gun manufacturers and reviewers which was something I wasn’t aware of. Think I’ll have to keep “kicking the tires” for a good sub compact.
I’d say you are making the smart choice. Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
Just got cz shadow 2 compact. Ran all kinds of ammo. Gun is amazing
Its a design flaw with some striker fired guns. When you maintain pressure on the trigger, during the firing sequence, (slide cycles and is returning to fully in battery) the trigger mechanism during the reset sequence can create additional drag causing the pistol to return to battery slowly or not at all. The manufacturer/importer tries to band-aid it by using a heavier recoil spring, obscuring one problem and creating another.
Try holding the trigger rearward under excess tension/pressure on a weapon that exhibits this problem (hanging up on the reset), then cycle the action, you'll notice when the trigger pressure is relaxed the weapon will return to battery somewhat normally.
I have an update. I received a new recoil spring and put the pistol through a 500 reliability test. There was a significant improvement but I still had 3 failures to go into battery. One at about 200 rounds. One at about 350 rounds and a final one at round 499. I fired 120 rounds one handed, 60 rounds with each hand and had zero failures. I also felt a couple of rounds where the slide felt slow but I was using weak 115 grain range ammo. I will run another 500 rounds through to see if things get worse or improve. At this point Indon't I am going to trust beyond an emergency and don't want to put it back in circulation. I guess I am stuck with it.
Yep, I had an eerily similar experience with my new recoil spring. What a bummer.
@@NightwoodGuns have you looked at the slide to see if the plastic goes above the frame rails? That and polishing the feed ramp fixed the problem for a lot of folks.
Update please???
@@alejandroochoa3541 haven't had time. Have to wait to Spring
Solid honest review. I ve see mostly positive reviews on all firearms yet I had to send one back to manufacturer. The heavy slide and extended mag turn me away from this firearm. You're the only reviewer to mention it.
I’m glad you enjoyed the review. Critical reviews of firearms are difficult to profit on. Hence the scarcity.
Canik and Springfield keep throwing out freebies to the big channels, and get surprisingly perfect reviews every time.
Amazing how that works.
I think half the customers, who actually buy it themselves, take their Canik out once or twice, then label better than a Glock or S&W.
People may not like it, but you speak the truth 👍
Have you ever shot one? I’ve put 2k rounds through mine without a single issue. Canik mete sft, shoots accurate & comfortable in the hands.
Never knew that was how the evaluation process worked. I frequently cut off videos and give them a like, whether I liked the results or not. The presenters gave me their opinion. I like it, and cease wasting time because I have the answer I was looking for.
That makes sense 👍 But things are weird behind the scenes. If you want to support your favorite channels here’s the order: subscribe, watch the whole video, comment, click on another one of their suggested videos, like their videos.
I now have over 1500 rounds through my MC9 and not one failure. No magazine release issues, no failure to feed, no failures whatsoever. I cleaned the gun when I first got it and then kept the slide stored back for 5 days before I went to the range as I waited until my new holster showed up. I used Federal and Blazer 115 grain and nothing wrong. It is a great weapon and I carry it everyday.
Same…but I’m around 800 rds
Good to hear! I’m sure it’ll keep going strong for ya! But be sure to let us know if anything changes 👍
Didn't even plan on buying this mete, but knew I would learn something from this video just like everything on this channel 🤙
Thanks for checking out the video, I’m glad you enjoyed 👍
So I got my mc9 about a month ago, I immediately replaced my taurus g2s with it as my daily carry gun. I've gone to the range and put 2 or 3 hundred rounds through it with out any issues. Now you have got me nervous. I'm wondering if I should quit practicing with it and only carry it or should I shoot the piss out of it and see if I have the same issues. It's a night and day difference next to my taurus but I've put a few thousand through my 200 g2s and finally had a jam after almost a year of not cleaning it. The trigger is garbage, I don't like having a safety for my Carry gun and it only holds 8 rounds. Now I'm torn
Only you can make that call. It’s crappy that Canik has put everyone in this position of doubt with these problems.
I was just looking at buying one of these glad I found this video.
I’ll stick with my Glock 23 or shield plus for my CC. Thanks for the review
Both of those are much better options 👍
I may or may not have just bought one before watching this video. It's nice to be aware of that possible issue. Thanks for the vid!
Well this is disappointing to see. I just purchased this and shot 100 rounds through it on day one with no malfunctions. Thank you for your honest review and information about this firearm, I will push more rounds through my MC9 to see if it has any of these mentioned malfunctions. I thought this pistol performed so well and was fun to shoot but after seeing this I am going to have to put it through the test. Thank you for the honest video. Sincerely, your new subscriber.
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍 The MC9 is definitely worth testing to ensure reliability.
Me and my wife have over 1000 rounds through ours not 1 issue.
Just joined..
I was debating between this gun and the m&p shield performance center. Guess this solves that problem for me. Keep up the great reviews!
I’d definitely go with the shield 👍
I’m a Canik fan, I have a standard tan TP9SF and a two tone Mete SFX that I really enjoy shooting in competitions. I just bought one of these in two tone about a week ago to match my Mete SFX. I shot it for the first time this weekend. Only put 5 mags of Winchester 115 FMJ through it so far. I’ll keep an eye out for any issues. Thanks for the heads up. Hilliker Holster Co. makes nice quality holsters for this pistol already. I think you earned a new subscriber! Much love from Texas!
Glad yours is running great so far! Let us know if anything changes 👍 And thanks for the sub 🤠
I have that gun and I thought your review was absolutely absurd until I got to about 750 rounds and I even cleaned it after 500 round and I’ll be damned if it did not do the same thing to me
I’m sorry that happened to you. But thank you for sharing your experience. 👍
The company behind the gun is just as important as the gun. Why I have been mostly a Beretta and Sig guy
Fair enough 😎👍
Bought mine the day before this video came out and the other videos I watched made this firearm look great! Took mine to the range today, out of battery problems already!! Love my TP9 Elite SC so I'm highly disappointed in the MC9! Accurate as heck, but absolutely unreliable! Wish I would have seen this video first. Also subscribed! Have a blessed day!
Yikes, sorry to hear that… Thanks for sharing your experience, though! 🙏
Bought mine and had the same battery issue. Went home thinking I bought a paperweight.
A couple of helpful You Tube videos later and with 15 minutes of time and some fine sandpaper and the gun now works flawlessly. No new recoil spring. Never ever tried to contact the manufacturer. Went shooting today and shot over 200 rounds with the same ammo that didn't work before. I also used some heavier rounds and not one single battery, ftf or fte problem. With that out of the way I can enjoy my MC9 and work on improving my shooting skills. Even my wife enjoyed firing it.
@@normanpersing2475 I did all of those fixes including 2 new recoil springs and mine never did work.
@@NightwoodGuns
Did you polish the Feed Ramp.
I haven’t bought a poly gun,that didn’t need polishing.
@@smacksmack5976 Yep. Didn’t help. Considering they are replacing barrels now, it could have been the angle or the profile of the feed ramp.
Great honest review sir. Just picked this up for my wife a week ago, and it shoots like a dream, but just a few hundred rounds so far.
I was seriously considering selling my Hellcat (because it’s so darn snappy) and getting one for myself. Now I may wait and see how this one performs.
Glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Good luck with your MC9, hopefully it’s better than mine.
I bought a TP9 Elite SC when they first came out. It jammed pretty regular with different ammo. I contacted Canik. They were already aware of the issue and mailed me a slightly lower pound “blue” marked guide rod & recoil spring, which made it run 100% reliable.
Good to hear! I’m just sick of manufacturers shipping life saving equipment with problems. Do they not test fire these things?
Your problem is your guide rod and spring but it isn’t the manufacturers fault. Pop it out and reinstall it and your out of battery problems will magically disappear. The one point you do actually have is how abysmal that Century Arms Customer Service is. Unless you harass them they will wait months to fix anything.
@@kevinallies1014 After the dead trigger I field stripped it and inspected everything and put it back together. The out of battery issue on camera was after popping it out, inspecting it for issues, and reinstalling it… So… Yeah. After the light strike out of battery I chose not to shoot it any more until speaking to Century Arms. Which is taking forever.
But I paid foy this blue spring coil from them, but damn it, the problem remains😂
I was searching for a Canik and couldnt find em anywhere locally. I found a used TP9 elite SC and bought it. Very happy with it and Im so glad they didn't have a Mete because I probably would have picked it instead.
I recently bought the Mc9.
Had to send it back due to feed issues with HP rounds.
I got it back today. Unfortunately because of weather, I gotta wait to test it again.
Hopefully they fixed it up. Let us know 👍
Appreciate your honesty, Brett! Thanks for all your hard work in vetting the MC9!
Thanks, man! 😎👍 It was certainly a bummer, but I’m glad the video is appreciated 😅
Nice review. You are right. i do like my MC9, but it's just for fun at the range. I have similar issues.
Nice little gun… be nicer if it worked 😂
I had a similar experience with a Glock 26 , the first time it happened was right about the 1500 round mark. thereafter it would happen about every 4-5 hundred rounds. This was with regular maintenance. I bought it new and I kept a log of all shots fired until I sold it.
That’s no good. I definitely would have sent that back to Glock, assuming it was happening with new, factory, quality ammo.
I bought a used Glock 19 a few years ago and had a similar experience but my Glock was a Gen 2 made in June 1989. Long story short it was not reliable until I changed out the striker spring, recoil spring and mag springs. Now it is 100%. Its too bad... and Century's offerings were getting a better rep.
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
1000 rounds is my metric to reach without a repeated malfunction. 1 failure to eject, 1 out of battery issue, etc, I’m willing to blame on 1-2 in 1000 rounds of ammo not being up to par. That being said, I just got home from the range, and at about 700-900 rounds total through my MC9, I started experiencing issues. I physically cannot lock the slide back; it simply won’t go back far enough, even when I use the optic as a handle. I’ve emailed customer support and will see what comes of it. I’m hoping for a permanent fix, because until today, I’ve loved everything about this gun.
People say I’m full of crap that this pistol can develop problems around that round count. It’s a huge bummer and I’m sorry it happened to you. Super frustrating and I can’t believe the MC9 is still having these problems.
@@NightwoodGuns you’re definitely not full of crap. The issue was non-existent until I noticed I was struggling to lock the slide back in dry fire exercises a couple days ago. I cleaned it, oiled it, and even oiled the guide rod a little. When I went to the range today, I got through 100 rounds, no problem. The next 50 rounds gave me probably 15-20 malfunctions. My hope, of course, is that they’ve sorted it out by now, given how many people have reported the same issue. I swapped my p365 for the MC9, and I shoot the Canik a lot better. I’m expecting Canik will send me a new guide rod, and I’ll try to remember to update here after 1000 rounds or a repeat issue.
@@SubDMBlime I appreciate you sharing your experience. Keep us posted 👍
@@NightwoodGuns update so far: Canik is clearly well aware of the issue, since I described my issue, and they didn’t even ask any follow up questions, they just shipped me a new guide rod. The issue is that the larger, muzzle end recoil spring tends to bend at the base, protruding slightly. The new guide rod has a heavier spring, which hopefully will be a permanent fix. I’ve only put a hundred rounds through it, but for anyone having the same issue, the culprit is the larger diameter spring on the guide rod. I also went ahead and used a bench sander to file down the protruding bit of spring on the old guide rod, which also works, so in a pinch, I have a backup. I’ll try to remember to come back and update after 1000 rounds. If the problem resurfaces, I’m gonna ask them to swap it out for a TP9 SC, since it’s a similar size, just wider. My TP9 Elite SF has been flawless, so I would expect similar reliability from the SC, but hopefully it doesn’t come to that.
PS. I emailed Century Arms about this problem, and they got back to me the same day to tell me that my new guide rod was on order. It took a couple weeks to arrive, but they got on it right away, so that’s worth noting. The response was immediate, no runaround whatsoever, so kudos to them for not beating around the bush at all.
@@SubDMBlime Thanks for the update. From comments and messages I’ve received. It seems the new guide rod/recoil spring helps 1 out of 10 people. For me, it fixed it for about 200 rounds then it started failing again. Hopefully it works better for you 👍
After listening to your evaluation of this gun, I'll continue carrying my Shield Pus and a Glock 19 in my carry rotation. I have watched other vids on this gun and those are mostly positive, but the Shield Plus and the Glock 19 are time-tested, reliable guns. Excellent presentation.
FYI in 7+ years of a State CCW Class, the ones that NEVER have an issue are the Glocks (not heavily altered) and Shields. ALL of the rest can be iffy! Of course, this is only anecdotal and not the result of a scientific study.
There’s piece of mind in carrying a gun with a solid and lengthy track record 😏 👍 Glad you enjoyed the vid!
Excellent review. Smart, thorough, and fair - as always.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review 😁👍
I randomly stumbled upon this video and I am super appreciative of it. I was so close to getting one of these but now I think I'll wait till they work out the problems. Cheers!
Close call! Definitely worth waiting to see if they can sort this out.
I have a MC9 and put 3 or 4 rounds through it and everyone them failed to feed. I polished the feed ramp no change. The recoil spring I trimmed a half a round off. 300 rounds last week without a failure and I just bought it last month. They wanted me to send it back to them and be without it. They make a piece to fill in the bottom of the clip. I have a holster for another gun and it fits PERFECT. I just took it to the store and tried it in every one that looked like it fit.
So I’ve reached the point in gun collecting/shooting where I’m faced with the choice of either starting to acquire “lesser-priced” firearms that have mixed reviews or purchasing “over priced” high end boutique firearms that have diminishing returns other than plain ol cool factor bragging rights. In the end I tend to pretty much keep what I’ve got so far and try to get back to training and building my ammo piles
It never hurts to have some over priced boutique firearms 😂 But training and ammo piles are probably the smarter choices.
@@NightwoodGuns I know your being diplomatically friendly about it as I’ve seen some of your boutique firearms. Between parenting, mortgage, student loans, 3rd child on the way, alimony 🤦🏻♂️ (but soon to expire🕺🏻) it’s hard to justify adding a Staccato, CZ Parrot, or what I’m really after which is a Galil 308.
Thank you for your honesty. I sure hope that if the out of battery problem really extends as broad as you think it does, that canik gets on it quick and corrects it fast. This is disappointing, to say the least.
Well, if the speed of their customer service is any indication… I wouldn’t hold my breath…
My first carry gun when I was an Asst DA was a Walther PP (.280) that I bought from a retiring cop for $175 - over 40 years ago. Have put over 7500 rounds through it over the DECADES. Total number of malfunctions? Zero. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Less than the square root of negative bupkis. None. 43 years. 7500 rounds.
And your point is?
@@m4rvinmartian That his Walther pistol is reliable and he is happy with it , is that so hard to understand ? So do you have a reading comprehension skill problem because you cannot understand his very simple statement ?
I think you mean was a Walther PP .380 ACP?
@@gracedagostino5231 LOL. I sure hope so, or all those rounds would be stuck in there somewhere……….
@@joejohnson4183 He has trolled this whole comment section.
It’s good your putting this information out. From what I’ve seen from watching way too much GunTube every manufacturer and every model has the possibility of issues from $200 to $2,000. Before the MC9 I was dead set on wanting a Shadow Systems CR920 which is double the price and has issues all over GunTube. Honestly now I’m leaning thirds carrying the Walther PDP F 3.5. The “higher end” Canik, lol. It’s probably the only conceal carry that has all the features I want while having the least complaints that I’ve seen.
Anyway thanks again for your honesty. I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah, the industry has shifted toward shipping a gun they think *might* work (after cutting corners for cost) and then beta testing on consumers. It’s morally corrupt to do that with life saving equipment and it has to stop. PDP is definitely a solid choice 👍
The CR 920 has issues all over RUclips because most RUclipsrs think they know shit that they don’t actually know. The manufacturer tells THEM and everyone else that the gun has a break in period: But because most RUclipsrs are used to shooting cheap ass Glock garbage they don’t know what a break in period is.
Glock has no issues
You should give the IWI Masada 9S a look. I have 1200 rounds through mine and it is fantastic.
Was literally going to purchase an MC9 tomorrow.....having second thoughts
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Shield Plus here with absolutely no issues. Been saturated with RUclips videos saying how the Canik is the superior firearm to have and how the trigger will make you a professional grade shooter blah blah blah. Then, I wonder, did I make a mistake? After this video and several others describing the same issues I would say not.
Yep, I’d say you made the right choice 👍
I own 2 caniks the mete SFT and the TP9 elite sc. so far they both have run great. I even upgraded the trigger on my TP9 to a freedomsmith trigger which is absolutely an awesome trigger because it hit the wall as soon as you get the trigger safety up so no more of the long take up that the stock trigger has. Hopefully the issues you’re having is only common on the model you have because I love my caniks & would be sad if they start having issues.
Hopefully 🤞
Great review. When I held one in the gun store I thought the rear notches on the grip would be a problem shooting with recoil. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on purchasing it with all the other QC problems.
Glad you enjoyed the review! And I’m glad your instincts served you well 👍
I primarily carry Glocks and since they have such good track records, I usually just call it good after a dozen or so mags through the gun with a variety of ammo (115, 124, 124+p)
Fair enough 😎👍 My Glocks have all been good to go!
I purchased the mete mc9 so far a few hundred rounds through it with no issues but will be coming up on 700 rounds through it soon thank you for the review and knowledge of what to possibly expect
I’m glad it’s running great so far 👍
I own a sarsilmaz 2000 kilinc, Sarsilmaz is a brand that has contracts with many special forces in turkey, and by the time I chose to Buy it, Canik was also an option, but for me, My sarsilmaz looked better built. 3400 rounds, with no issues at all
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Nice job catching the Out of Battery on Colion's video. Still waiting for something better than my Shield plus.
Once people accused me of lying I went full eagle-eye mode in Colion’s video 😂 The Shield Plus is probably impossible to beat in this category for the price. There are some things I’d change about it, but it’s a fantastic and reliable little blaster 👍
Here's the thing, Canik started out rocky. It took them a few guns to figure it out. Their later model TP and Mete lines had excellent reliability and probably the best out of the box triggers for mass manufactured guns. Then they make an all new design that uses very little of what’s proven in their other guns and barely test it. The MC9 so far has been a bit iffy with reliability, if you look all over various forums, the Canik subreddit and quite a few vids, its had some issues, whereas their other line of pistols pretty much have no problems. Also Canik themselves say its fine to pronounce it as "Kenik".
Add that the MC9 is made in an all new plant in USA. This is the first Canik made in USA. They likely could not sell the MC9 in the USA unless it was made here due to import restrictions. Their prior Mete and Rival models were based on prior TP models so they were not complete new designs like the MC9.
@@raykettel1837 Yes precisely.
Well, it feels pretty crappy to pay full retail and drop a couple hundred dollars in ammo to be a tester for their new design. A morally corrupt trend in an industry of life saving equipment. But yes, the Elite and SFX I owned prior were 100% solid for me.
@raykettel1837 Do you have a source that the MC9 is made in the U.S.? Stamping on the firearm says Made in Turkey.
@@NightwoodGuns SiG have made their customers beta testers for years now lol
I'm new to firearms and would like to get into the sport. This is the first video, I have watched from you. I'm really joyful, that you are so honest and informative. How else would I be able to know about such critical safety problems buying my first pistol! I didn't even know this could happen to a firearm, and the seller would probably not mention it in the store......
Instant sub from me, you deserve to be backed. I'm even contemplating to be your patron already, as only my second ever.
I’m so glad you enjoyed the video! 👍 Welcome to the channel and the firearm community! 😎
@@NightwoodGuns Thank you!
self described canik fanatic, was super stoked for this, glad Im still carrying my tricked out shield gen 1, sure theyll iron this out but damn what a bum start to a new gun, ad GREAT catch with noir video, thats fucking priceless, and of course bought and sold colion didnt say shit
I just don’t want this to become the norm for Canik moving forward. They had a great thing going. Hoping they learn from it. Century Arms customer service is enough to keep me away, though 😬 And yeah, no surprises with Colion. Not gonna throw too much shade, though. He’s a good guy and there’s nothing wrong with raking in some cash while fighting the good fight and shooting guns all day. He’s done a lot more for the 2A than most YT commenters have, ya know? 👍 But it’s still crappy ignoring malfunctions that could get people kilt in the streets in exchange for a check. Appreciate the comment, man! 😎
No battery problems hopefully I won't.I have small hands so the back strap doesn't bother my hand...For reference my hand fits perfect with the shorter mag...I agree on the grip texture . I have handle it grips on mine...really like your content
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Keep us posted if anything changes. Btw, HandleIt grips are my fave 😎
After reading a few comments, I thought it might help if I gave my experience with the mc9. I too experienced a malfunction like yours. With an out of the box new gun. I was very surprised to see a dry chromed fireing pin. A drop of lube,and the gun has run 500 plus rounds. Without a hiccup. That is my experience with the Canik MC9 so far.
Interesting… I also heard someone changed the firing pin spring to a lighter one and it solved the issue.
I had same experience with emailing Canik.
First email answer was that the new recoil spring had a “C” on it. I wrote back and asked if there’s a manufacturer date or SKU number for reference so that I didn’t have to take the gun apart in a gun shop or what if I buy it from Buds Guns? No reply.
Gun quality is a huge disappointment. I was ready to buy this gun just for the fun of it. Why bother? It’s just another questionable product. I hope one day gun manufacturers get into the 21st Century and produce firearms that are dependable. Until then I hope I never need to use my gun in self defense, or…that my attacker bought a gun with more failure problems.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m currently experiencing the nightmare that is Century Arms customer service 🤦♂️ I agree with you 👍
I experienced this right out of the box. Cleaned of course, but its been a sh$t show from the start. Waiting on the new spring now for about 3 weeks. Ive emailed twice and they say not sure whats going on it should have already shipped. This was my first Canik and i was really excited about it. Now it will never be my go to carry gun. Even if it runs after the new spring. Ive mentioned in all my emails about the mags not dropping and they never acknowledge it. Very disappointing. I really think there should be a recall on them.
I’m fighting that same fight right now. This has definitely soured me on the brand. Holy cow, the customer service is rough. They must be overwhelmed with people contacting them about the MC9 and are running out of springs or they have no idea what’s actually causing the problem. Like you said, they ignore questions and clearly don’t care.
That’s why I put a gun through its paces before i feel comfortable carrying or depending on it then I also train about 1 time or more per month and use my carry gun and whatever gun I feel like shooting that day
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@nightwoodguns I know this video is a couple of months old. it JUST popped up in my recommendations, so I wanted to give it a watch.
I was listening to the problems that you were documenting, and then, at 5:45 where you showed the slowmo of your wife having one of the issues pretty much decided it for me.
I'm very convinced that the problem is somewhere in the trigger bar hitting areas that it's not supposed to. In the slowmo, I can clearly see the slide go back into battery when your wife lets off the trigger.
Dead trigger, light strikes, failure to go into battery, are all symptoms (when combined) of a trigger bar interfering with the movement of the slide, or the striker.
I have a running theory that that polymer used in the frame is too thin. And it's warping. (Evidenced by the issue that some users are getting with their mags not dropping free after a lot of use). Which is changing the internal specs on the trigger bar travel areas.
Definitely possible! Interesting theory! 👍
@@NightwoodGuns Take the slide off, and slowly work the trigger so that you can watch the bar. Take a look for wear there where it should be catching the striker or striker release. Also look to see if it is pushing back too far in the rear.
And look to see if it is rubbing on anything there in it's travel groove. Particularly corners of the frame.
Sometimes it's the spec on the bar. Slightly not cut to measurement, or a bend or curve that is off by a few degrees.
It could also be frame shift. If it's rubbing the frame, take some medium sandpaper and ease down the wear spot. Then light grit to polish and smooth it.
My theory is more towards the very end away from the trigger tho. Either being too long, and too much pressure against the rear, which is why it's not going into batttery. Then releasing when let off the trigger.
Or that it's causing the striker to not fully release, which is keeping the slide from fully going back into battery.
This is a great video, I think you’re doing the general public a great service by informing us about the truth and I for one greatly appreciate it 👍🙏. Subscribed.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Welcome to the channel!
Remember folks..........this is just one example.
Exactly. This is just one video of someone who bought the gun from a gun store (not provided by Canik) and put 700+ rounds through it. I encourage everyone to watch all of the videos done under similar conditions 👍
Appreciate the up front honesty.
After how much this video cost, I understand why nobody does videos like this 😂 Glad you enjoyed 👍
I’m glad I found this video! I was about to sell my TP9SC for the MC9! I won’t be doing that now! Still gonna sell my SC because SIL really wants it but I guess I’ll start carrying my Elite Combat!
The Elite Combat is 🔥
@@NightwoodGuns agreed!!!
Dude not sure why I’m just finding you now but, subbed and really appreciate this video. Greg at OG Danger (?) I believe just had a vid w/ one he bought and the slide wouldn’t lock back. Definitely staying away
Glad you found the channel! 👍 Yeah, I definitely don’t recommend this MC9 😬
Honesty. That is all I ask. Liked and subscribed.
Thank you. And welcome to the channel! 😎👍