Rebutting Genesis Apologetics - Six Day Creation
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2021
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I am addressing this pseudoscience apologetics video: Genesis Apologetics K8 Student Zone Six Days 6 8 Grade
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"Was the Earth created in 7 days? No. This is a wonderful story told to the people in the desert in order to distract them from the fact that they did not have air conditioning."- Lewis Black
@Account NumberEight Also, why are all puddles exactly the right size and shape for the water they contain? :)
@@nickryan3417 because the puddle is the water, not the depression it settles into.
@@Voldine2 ...and by creationist logic, the depression has been designed to match the water.
The Prophet Lewis, or as he is more properly known, JeweyJewey of Sixgun Jewey's Hotel and Casino Shootaria and Synagogue is my patron saint.
@@nickryan3417 Hey man, you weren't there. so. . I mean you can't know.
I LOLed when he literally said "look at the trees".
The fruits are made for you! Except the poisonous ones.
The plants are made for you! Except the poisonous ones.
The Earth is made for you! Except for the parts that are uninhabitable.
Through His grace, God ensured that no true Christian would ever choke to death on a grape or a peanut. At least not once people learned of the Heimlich Manoeuvre, a mere 6000 years after He decided to join the oesophagus and the trachea together in most mammals.
@@RichWoods23 God is one of those contractors that would be featured on Catch a Contractor.
All the animals are to be dominated by you!Except when you meet an 800 pound grizzly and you have no tools to dominate it.
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#JESUS FIRST Zechariah And Nahum Scrolls Also Got Revealed And Unearthing The Bible Reveals 101 Archaeological Discoveries On The Lord
“The Bible isn’t even on speaking terms with reality” great quote!
@@thealmightyjesus7018 take a course in high school English, for starters. And then try philosophy. And then try science. Then, once you can finally pass those final exams, come talk to us again.
@@thealmightyjesus7018 Sorry, I think you've wandered into the wrong channel. Or did you come here to be ridiculed? (because it justifies your persecution complex?)
@@thealmightyjesus7018 there is nothing reliable in the Bible. The only thing about the Bible that is reliable is you can alway rely on believers being idiots.
@@thealmightyjesus7018 Why does that douchebag not allow comments? Because he knows he's Lying for Jesus, and you know it too.
@@thealmightyjesus7018 If god created humans and animals to live in peace, then why did god create animals with razor sharp teeth that are useful for killing and eating prey? Why would he give us K9s? What is the point of having K9s if we were made to live in harmony with the animals in eden?
I’m not looking to bully you in any way, but I want you to consider these questions and just think about it.
"When have you ever seen a monkey build a spaceship?"
"When have YOU ever seen a creationist build a spaceship?"
Creationists can't even build their ark the way their book says it was done, let alone a spaceship
Since the word "monkey" is generic ASF, is meaningless for taxonomy and all "monkeys" are mammals and primates, just like the ring tailed lemur, the spectral tarsier or the Sunda slow loris (all mammals and primates) I can call all of them "monkeys" in case I don't know the exactly name of the species and guess what? Humans are mammals and primates so I've seen not only one monkey but lots of them cooperating in order to build a spaceship. Hahahah
When have you seen the universe magically create itself? Or the resurrection of non life also known as abiogenesis?
@@juniorsir9521 RESURRECTION of non life is dead things coming BACK to life. That's a christian claim (as well as quite a few other religions).
The universe magically creating itself? If god is a part of the world that's the creation story.
If god is not part of the world he either doesn't exist or he may just as well not exist.
Neither of these things are atheistic or scientific claims, so the answer has to be:
"Never, but what does that matter? I never claimed that happened."
The exact mechanisms of abiogenesis and the formation of the universe are as of yet unknown, so you're welcome to assume a god in those gaps.
Just don't try to replace the things we DO know with your god or tell me I should also assume that (specific) god. Or I might ask:
"When did you see god pray for light and create the universe? Or build a golem and kiss him to life?"
That's more accurate to the bible's claims about creation than your questions are to any scientific claims. Though still purposely inaccurate.
@@9Johnny8 there is no such thing as “unknown” for atheist it’s simply called being ignorant. Atheist and perhaps you claim the universe began with a Big Bang. What was before that could not be unknown. Either God caused the ordered universe or magic did. You chose to out of ignorance accept magic was the source of our existence. Even then there’s no such thing as atheist. To be atheist one would have to have hard solid evidence that God does not exist. Believing God does not exist is just a belief doesn’t make it true. Those who claim atheism should be in the line of agnostics. Another name for agnostics or by definition is ignorant.....
“The Bible says god did all that in 6 days.” And Goldilocks ate porridge that didn’t belong to her. Does mean there were really bears cooking breakfast in the woods.
Imagine a world some two thousand years from now where a religion was built upon the fantasy stories of Harry Potter. How could you convince someone who absolutely believes Harry Potter is a saint, or a savior, and a real person who really existed that it was a series of novels written by a real woman to entertain children?
It's easier to train a grizzly bear to make a perfect beef Wellington, than to teach a christian apologist to recognize a logical fallacy!
@@Bob-of-Zoid 😆😆😆
@Account NumberEight Awwwwwwwwwwwww!! Poor pooped little bear, after a hard day killing children for god!!
@@Craxin01 Something tells me that at the time the bible was written, listing authors, their credentials, genre labeling, and fact checking were not yet part of the requirements by publishers. Harry potter has all that, so I think future generations are safe.
the moon provides us light, said like a true electrician.
You can't expect him to understand what even a third grader understands.
I'm sure Aron makes the intro music louder the more videos he has to make
I think he put his tongue to live wires at some point?
In a manner of speaking, it does. Sunlight reflects off the moon, which in turn, reflects onto us.
Funny thing is that some flat earthers actually believe that "moon emits its own cold light".
There's a great Douglas Adams analogy that refutes that "we're just the right distance away from the sun" argument. It imagines a sentient puddle of water who reasons that it must have been divinely created since, after all, it's exactly the right shape for the depression it finds itself in (and that physics require its shape to conform to.) It continues to crow about its uniquely divine nature as it evaporates and dries up.
And then the use the moons full eclipse right size too...lol and if the roles reverse the moon cast a little dot shadow on earth
There's also the fact that the sun - earth distance varies by millions of miles in a year lmao
I hope someday in my lifetime Aron Ra is publicly recognized for the work hes doing. I can imagine there are thousands of people whos eyes were opened after discovering his videos. It was Aron who gave me the tools to let go of any lingering fears i had inside me. Those fears that kept me feeling guilty and afraid to embrace atheism. Thankyou Mr. Ra. You helped change my life. U help thousands each day. Youre a hero of education. Thank you sir
He helped me increase my knowledge of Evolution and how to answer peoples claims, hopefully without loosing my temper. Every time he does a video I find myself asking questions of the person he is debunking and also saying why what he is saying - the guest on the video - is wrong. He is very good at what he does and what he does is great.
I wish i had Aron's youtube channel back in the early 80s when i was stuck in a lutheran school, being forced to memorize the equivalent of happy potter lore.
You have a typo. Harry was replaced with happy.
@@Voldine2
Aahhh
The wonders of Spell Check.
@@kinglyzard More likely the curse of autotypo/autoincorrect striking again.
I don't know, I think Happy Potter Lore sounds perfect, sums up religion perfectly.
@Jeppo Jinx
Holy shit, dude, lay off the shrooms.
“The Bible is not even on speaking terms with reality” PREACH 🔥🔥🔥
I love when you call God an ape, because that would offend _so_ many Christians. It's so hilarious hearing them go, "my God is _not_ and ape!"
The true God is a spirit creature with infinite power and is referred to as dynamic energy. Apes are physical creatures and could not exist in the spirit world. So no the true God is not an ape.
@@ronhansen8471 *The true God is a spirit creature with infinite power and is referred to as dynamic energy.*
Yes Superman and Spider-man too have great powers;)
@@ronhansen8471 If someone believes that humans are created in god’s image, then god is an ape.
@@ronhansen8471 Except that God is described in the old testament as a recognizable physical character who walks, sits, eats, waves his hand, turns his head, shows his backside and cheats at wrestling.
@@ronhansen8471 ''Spirit creature'' that's gonna need some evidence....go on just a tinsy bit you'll be the first.
The most sickening thing about this, is that it is aimed at innocent, gullible children. If this isn't child abuse, I don't know what is. Thank you Aron, for putting the record straight for them. Although, I doubt very much, that the homeschoolers will ever get to see any of your videos.
Ah yes, such child abuse when the focus of many topics is how to love your family, how to treat people, how to live life with good morales with a constant reminder on Sundays and Wednesdays, how they believe if someone goes to hell after they die, they want to prevent that from happening but yet people are just offeneded, comfort people who are near death, help broken families dealing with abuse, telling children in broken homes they have value, teaching them to honor their parents, checking on the elderly when they live alone, to be careful of friends you hang with, discourage drug abuse, hold fund raisers for those in need, go to foerign countries to share their religion aid those there, etc. What a disgusting religion to its core, that a book can make people do such things from hundreds of years ago.
Now what a typical person might say is:
- you don't religion to do nice things: you're right
- that doesn't change whether or not a god exist: okay, it's not evidence im arguing
- religous people are hypocrits: yes, some are but that doesn't mean the principles changed. It means the person was at fault, not the entire community
The question is, why is everyone so eager for there not to be a god?
- is it to prove you're right?
- was there some type of abuse/ wrong done to you growing up from a church?
Aren't agnostics supposed to be in the middle ground, but yet most lean already on there is no god? how come agnostics don't use all this knowledge they have to want to know a god that might exist?
@@jherandsoleil6335 you have a poor understanding of what agnosticism means. I am an agnostic atheist. Meaning I don't accept the claim a God exists, but cannot assert with absolute certainty that there is no God.
@@Andrew-te4vj Well if you throw in atheist afterwards than that’s a completely different than just an agnostic itself. Like if someone were to claim an agnostic theist
@@jherandsoleil6335 theism and atheism refer to belief. Gnosticism and agnosticism are about knowledge or certainty. An agnostic theist would be someone who believes there is a God but admits that they don't know with certainty.
@@Andrew-te4vj So is there no such thing as a middle ground agnostic?
I seriously hope he sees these and attempts a rebuttal. Shit would be off the wall hilarious.
Something tells me he would never even look at something contrary to what he wants to believe, let alone risk interacting
@@nagranoth_ Someone wrote he reached out to him with questions of this series and he actually responded by "Explain how life was made! Explain me how cells came to be! If you can't show each cellstep of billion years ago animals can't have any speciation!" Or the typical creationist offtopic drivel to conflate abiogenesis and evolution and cosmology with biology and so on. The problem is if you would even show him cell origin in front of his own eyes he would rather rip them out of his head than changing his mind.
@@nagranoth_ He has disabled comments I suspect your right
@@Angelmou Fun thing is to ask them "How did God speak the world into existence? How did he make matter from nothing? If you can not explain every magic step you have no god!" I just had someone tell me "Our mines are limited (Fininte) so we can not understand an unlimited God (Infinite)" so I asked why God gave us finite minds. Then good faith responses ended.
They don't. They cut it off. They're liars fundamentally
2:38
Creationist - "...there is an answer"
AronRa - "Wrong answers dont count!"
Nearly killed me
Well I'm glad you survived! That was a close one 🙀
His going on about us being special has always been a point of interest to me. In any other areas of life, if some random stranger tells you that you’re special, common wisdom would have us be sceptical, as that stranger is likely working some kind of angle.
Bit if they’re wearing robes with that little white thing in the collar and swinging a jolly book around, suddenly they’re trustworthy.
@@thealmightyjesus7018 do you not comprehend the concept of spam? I hope a thousand people report you for spamming every one of these comments you're spamming people on!
When a person says anything about religion it screams to me don't trust this person at all
@@thealmightyjesus7018 Why are comments disabled? Answer me spammy liar.
@@thealmightyjesus7018 Can I guess why you are spamming? Your particular cult has replaced out of date ideas like prayer wheels and rosaries with spamming.
Spam 10 YTubers and get that smugly superior "Doing the Lord's Work" feeling.
Spam 100 and your sins are all forgiven.
Spam 1000 and you've booked a ticket for The Rapture.
Spam 10000 and your fingers fall off.
Isn't it funny how, when it concerns cults and fan clubs, it's NEVUR the cult or fan club at fault for crimes committed in its name, it's always the people.
But when it comes to drugs, it's ALWAYS the drugs that cause the problems, but NEVUR the people.
Strange that...
"God's way of making sure that we always have enough food" sure doesn't work for a lot of people who starve to death. But they're too dead to complain, right?
Also, you’ll notice that the poem at the beginning of Genesis shows a clear pattern of being poetic because days 1-3 are mirrored in 4-6. The Earth is said to be without structure and empty. For day one we have light, day two we have the sky separated from the water below (with the firmament) and on day three land comes up from beneath the water. The next four days we get “lights” to fill the (role of providing) light, though they are described as being within the firmament or as a decoration on the dome itself consistent with astrology. They still fill the emptiness of something given order and structure according to the poem. Day five is concerned with life that inhabits the air and the water as that’s what the poem said was separated on day two. And finally, day six we get the land animals, not because anything about this poem should be understood as being an accurate representation of reality, but because day six fills the day three land. It ends with humans being created so that humans can take over for the god(s) and that’s where it’s humans not gods who make boats, buildings, and places to cook the “sacrifices” that ultimately become the meals for the humans who made up the rules that the general public was supposed to follow.
How is this comment 1 day old when it says this video was posted 30 minutes ago? Is this killer queens bites the dust ability???
@@TheFounderYosh Members get to see the videos in beforehand.
@@TheFounderYosh that’s the benefit of being a Patreon
@@dustinfurness2155 If listening to this crap is a benefit, I don't want to be a member
@@timmick6911 Well it is science. So what you are saying is that you rather stay wilful ignorant. Knowledge is the enemy of your religion.
I loved learning about the old cosmology in my philosophy course, it's amazing to see how people tried to explain the world around them before science. All the creative ways they found to explain something using only their limited knowledge.
For some reason my teacher failed to mention that some people STILL believe in such things.
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@@thelordjesus1136
Jebus was a monkey.
@@jesuslord6822 "Joe Anderson - 1 subscriber"
that's probably the only YT channel with just a single subscriber I've ever seen so far. Thanks for giving me a chance to get that achievement checkmarked on the list :)
The bible is not a science book. Its purpose is not to expand on science technology or provide food for philosophical thinking. It is a book of life. Science says man has been on this planet for at least 200,000 years and yet it has only been the last 120 years where man has become technologically advanced. Can you explain why man has waited so long?
@@thelordjesus1136 not sure what you are trying to tell us? Even Paul confessed that he was just reporting from hearsay, and was not an actual eye witness himself ... and what has all of this to do with the actual topic of Genesis 1, which does not have Paul or Jesus involved at all to begin with?
"It's like a history lesson from Barney Rubble!" Genuinely laughed out loud at that!
Listening to Bisbee is like getting a science lesson from Barney Rubble!🤣
Dave “Big Wave” Bisbee’s mantra:
- Ken Ham please hire me
- The bible is true
- The world is 6.000 years old
- Evolution is wrong
- Why won’t you hire me Ken Ham?
Kendrick Hamar
I strongly approve of the "Big Trouble in Little China" clip.
@@thealmightyjesus7018 Amazing. I never would have thought that there could be such a perfect visual representation of the ramblings of a crazy guy on the street corner with a "JESUS SAVES! THE END IS NEAR!!!" sign. Is god himself opposed to punctuation and words that begin with lowercase letters, or are those just your own personal anethemae?
@@thelordjesus1136 Why are comments disabled, Liar for Jesus?
As a former believer of about 20 years, all I can say is thank you. Thank you so much for your time you have spent on videos like these for over a decade. While I owe you an apology for all the dislikes I left on your videos previously, I can honestly say that even when I was a die hard believer, your videos helped me open my mind to other beliefs and ideas, which eventually lead to me accepting science and facts over religion and fables. It's hard to believe I not only read, but memorized and defended passages such as "God made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night" and took them 100% literally, when in obvious reality, the moon is not a light, but is merely a reflection. Please keep up the great work!
Possibly the Bible intended to make the point that the Sun is brighter than the moon is at night. It's definitely darker at night time in some areas
And the other thing with the moon is that every 4 weeks it is not visible at night time.
Not meaning to nit pick, but the moon is not "merely a reflection" but the moon does reflect the light of the Sun. But I figure that's what you meant.
It’s literally been proven that the moon gives off its own unique light… people have done experiments proving that moonlight is cooler in temperature than the temperature in the shade.
@@chasep5539 I guess you haven't seen all the videos that explain why and how that "experiment" does not prove the moon has its own kind of (cool) light. What's actually happening is called radiational cooling. Place a thermometer out in the open on a clear night (the kind of night where you can clearly see the moon) and the air will be cooler because the heat of the day has disipated into the clear open sky - and even into space. But put that same thermometer in the shade and the temp will be a little warmer. Why? Because the shade blocks the radiational cooling holding warmer air near the ground. Think of the shade as if it were a blanket. Now, it's not the shade that does this but what causes the shade.
That divine naptime line around 12:40 had me doubled over in laughter.
You know, from all the videos so far, this might be the most obvious showing the true motivation of the creationist at all: "I wanna be special!!" When AronRa shows the absurdity of sky daddy needing days to create the earth but poofing the rest of the universe into existence just on the fly, the creationist not only repeats and confirms this, but actually revels in it. "God needed more time for the earth (and later animals and humans) than for the whole rest of the vast universe. Ain't that great? We truly are special!!!"
Bisbee even says "we're not animals; we're special".
Funny part is, as far as we can tell, we still, quite possibly, are special even without all that bullshit.
@@AronRa but, taxonomically and morphologically, we are animals and can exhibit behaviors no better nor different than them either.
@@AronRa When someone denies being an animal, I just given in and say _"Fine. You're a protist."_
The sheer levels of cognitive dissonance amongst creationists is mind boggling. The correct answers to all these questions are at their fingertips, just a short browser search away.
Yet they mindlessly default to the most absurd explanations..........
32:38 "and you don't even understand how you've embarrassed yourself in every episode of this series. So I have to feel embarrassment for you."
What an epic burn! 🔥 🔥 🔥
Another thing, when Big Wave Dave said the Sun is stable, I just like "it's essentially a giant nuclear furnace, it's not that stable"
I love how when he is trying to explain what "kind" means he uses multiple different uses if the word at the same time. "There are different "kinds" of cats but only 1 cat "kind." How can there be different "kinds" if they are also all the same "kind?" This really shows that they have no true definition for what a "kind" is and only use the word so they can shift the goalpost any time a person tries to explain how different animals are related.
Loving the Perry Mason Objections! Loving this series.
"Wrong answers don't count "! Where and how it was said made me laugh out loud! That just smashed the poor guys statement so perfectly it got me!! Thanks! 😆
Thank you for putting forward the poetic interpretation. My brother who passed away this year, subscribed to that belief.
"Look, there is plants to give you food and oxygen!"
...why the hell would an omnipotent creator make it so we need those things? That makes no sense.
Not God! The Devil BOOGA BOOGABOOGA
How can it be that he can show the number of stars believed to be in the universe, and then still smile and say that the Earth is special? How is it that creationist apologists can so regularly get so close and then just simply refuse to make that final, obvious step?
Motivated reasoning.
@@KaiHenningsen - While I agree in principle, I don’t like to use the term “reasoning”, because the root word is reason and a derivative is reasonable. I prefer to say “motivated asserting”.
@@altosack I believe "motivated reasoning" is the accepted standard term that most people understand, and it is reasonably descriptive - these people don't _just_ assert things, they try to come up with reasons to justify their assertions. Compare to "rationalization" which also includes "rational". That's just the way these terms get constructed.
@@KaiHenningsen - Oh, I agree, and would use it myself to be understood; I just don’t like it because it gives more credit than deserved.
Just because there are many of something doesn't make it not special. A diamond is still a diamond when it's surrounded by other diamonds. As far as we can tell, the likelihood of life sustaining planets is rare. Just our solar system alone, there are 8 planets an dozens of moons, yet our planet is the only one we can verify with any level of certainty that has complex life. Say every star has one life sustaining planet, which is by no means a certainty, that's still doesn't make ours less special, it just means we have more company.
I went to a Sunday school as a child, but only twice because I questioned the fact that a civilization so new was able to dictate the rules of a good life, and that the new discoveries found in our time were something to be feared, or ignored. Knowledge is never to be feared, but monitored so it is used in a proper manner.
And don't even try to use knowledge in a rundown cottage!
@@PabloSanchez-qu6ib I absolutely get your meaning, A majority of folks are so indoctrinated by this shit because of their parents, and they do well because ignorance sticks together, I am an outcast. I sleep well knowing this though.
@@DKoppJr he was making a joke about your homophone mixup. Manor instead of manner.
@@Voldine2 Oh I just seen that.
You had the smarts to question this as a mere child? Wow congrats it took me to my early 20s.
Ill be honest, " why arent we invisible" almost went over my head
It never ceases to amaze the colossal arrogance of the religious. How self-centered must you possibly be to look at seeds, which are how plants reproduce, and assume that they exist for *your* sake rather than theirs?
Always a good day when there's a new Aron Ra video
The yt algorithms for picking ads are always hilarious in their fails. So many religious garbage ads, ads for books on how to destroy evolution, just ... fail.
But good discussion and dissection in the video!
I love the fact that by watching the ads Aron gets paid and it’s the religious garbage Ads that are paying.👍
This might be unrelated to the topic, but what is 'gain of function', exactly, in respect to evolution?
@@matterdirk1200
Gain of function research mimics evolutions ability to add information to the gnome. So gain of function tries to add new abilities to the existing DNA. On the Stated Clearly channel they have a video on it. Because I probably didn’t explain that Very well.
I found his video
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These people are so child-like in their thinking, I need to remind myself periodically how dangerous this ideology becomes as it grows stronger.
This was a wonderfully savage beating! Well Done.
Getting a Christian Connection ad, before this take-down of creationism, is just the icing on the cake... 😂
I got one for Genesis Apologetics!
You should put an ad up saying "looking for a Mary that will supplicate me to drink from her living waters" and see the responses.
@@benjaminnowack8433 The Facebook algorithm strikes again...
@@whatabouttheearth 'Flat Earth, Creationist, living by biblical morals. No weirdos..'
I notice he didn't mention that a supposedly omnipotent god had to have a rest after doing that stuff. Why would an omnipotent being need to have a rest? And more to the point, if it was such a perfect job in the first place, why did he later have to kill almost everyone with a big flood so he could have a do-over? Even within the realms of its own simplistic nature, the creation story in Genesis floats about as well as the six-masted schooner - the largest wooden vessel ever built - the Wyoming. And on the subject of that ship and how it relates to the feasibility of the ark in his magic fairy-tale book, why doesn't this guy ask them at the preposterous 'ark encounter' why they didn't make their ark an actual water borne vessel? Spoiler alert, if he has a read about hogging and sagging on the actual real-world largest ever wooden ship - the aforementioned Wyoming - he will then know why they didn't make their replica ark an actual ship; because it would have been a physical impossibility owing to the limitations of wooden ship construction, thus proving the ark story is complete bullshit even if you could manage to fit about 7.5 million breeding pairs of creatures onto it and have eight people look after them all.
The most common apologetic seems to be god wanted to set an example for the work week
@@mwperk02 Well he didn't do a very good job; I work six on three off. :-)
@@ChockHolocaust I do 5 on 2 off so he got it wrong there too
I'd rather ask them why their ark was damaged in a flood?
I love how plants verify one day for the sun creation, but light can exist before the sun no problem.
I was indoctrinated to this preposterous crap when I was very young. When I got a little older I started to ask logical questions and instead of answers I got punishment. So glad to be free of it all.
Awesome!!!👌 Thanks again Aron for your time and effort in making these videos for ppl to see the reality of the lies of religion... I hope that ppl like me share these videos everywhere with everyone... so kids and teens and young adults get to see them in time.... Your work is admirable and thank you for helping ppl wake up to the reality of the world 🌎
As the Grand Archpriest of the Church of the Algorithm, I comment you to engage with this video.
So be it my... lord? What's the proper honorific for a grand archpriest?
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@@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm Can we just call you Bruce to save on the confusion?
@@goldenknight578 No.
AronRa, I have heard of you, but this is the first video of yours, I have watched.
Please, keep up the good work.
Good health, to you, and your family.
The guy says "plants for one day before the SUN EXISTS" isn't a problem? I mean without the Sun the Earth would be close to absolute zero in complete darkness hurling through space with no orbit. But this guy thinks the Earth can exist fine without the Sun for a day.
That's true. We experience temperatures below freezing of water in some areas of the earth specifically on mountain tops and and the poles. It is known to render plants and crops frozen dead while WE STILL HAVE THE SUN. It just take minutes or even seconds for the plants to be lifeless when exposed to such bitter cold in our current environment. How much more if there's really no sun for an entire day. All the land, water, plants would be in ice. And even if the have the sun the next day, melting the frozen Earth would still take hundreds of years cause there will be dense clouds blocking the sun's light and heat to penetrate on the planet. Next god will create animals which will also be dead afterwards cause there's no plants for food and its still freaking cold.
Depends a bit on WHAT Earth. ;) the primordial Post-Theia Earth surely would not cool out in one day :D (it would also burn any plant or lifeform to ashes before they could multiply, so ... maybe not that ideal a point in time ;P
Also if Dave were honest about taking the bible literal he would be a flat Earther anyway and god could just preheat the air inside the glass snowglobe "dome".
Wait, did he say other animals don't experience emotion as strongly as we do? Has he ever interacted with a DOG? 🙄
Or in-laws?
Or elephants...
@@goldenknight578 lol
As a Ph.D. candidate in astrophysics, I have rarely had a chance to correct Aron Ra... The word "meteor" does refer neither to a solid body in outer space nor a solid body flying through the Earth's atmosphere. Meteor is generic label meteorologists use for any phenomenon in the Earth's atmosphere. Astronomers and astrophysicists use the word "meteor" for one specific atmospheric phenomenon caused by a meteoroid or an asteroid entering the Earth's atmosphere. A long tube of ionized gas formed along its trajectory glows for a short time while gas particles recombine and deexcite. Emitted light we can then observe in the sky is called a "meteor." The difference between meteoroids and asteroids is purely semantic. A meteoroid is any rocky, metal, or icy debris in outer space below 1-meter diameter. Anything bigger than that (and smaller than a dwarf planet) is an asteroid. As a meteoroid or an asteroid flies through the atmosphere, its outer layers gradually sublime away (the vast majority of meteoroids sublime away altogether). Excessive heat changes the interior of the original meteoroid/asteroid into a metamorphic rock we generally call a "meteorite." If a meteorite retains excessive kinetic energy during its impact, it can form an impact crater ("meteorite impact crater").
So while saying that "the atmosphere is protecting the Earth against meteorites" is not precisely correct (it should be "the atmosphere is protecting Earth's surface against meteorite impacts"), replacing the word "meteorites" with "meteors" turns the sentence into the utterly nonsensical statement.
Hey, you got Pac-Man?
No.
You got Space lnvaders?
Nope.
-You got Asteroids?
-No, but my dad does.
He can't even sit on the toilet some days.
Meter-oid smaller than one meter, got it. 👍
Isn't it sublimate, not sublime? After all, sublime as a verb means to exalt, dignify, honor, or to make finer (like in purity or excellence), making it worth more than it did before? At least that's what I learned sublime means.
Thanks, that is good information
@@MaryAnnNytowl No, in physics and chemistry, "sublimate" is a product of the sublimation process, and the word cannot be used as a verb. The verb "to sublime" is correct here. However, outside the scope of physics and chemistry, the verb indeed means what you described in your comment.
The idea if Genesis being poetry actually make that initial part if the Bible have some beauty in metaphor. I think that attempt to ‘paint’ a poetic picture is ruined when idiots like dave try to make Genesis a literal account. I appreciate your thoughts and elaboration Aron, elegant!
I have always thought the original poetic language could have been describing the sun rise over a large body of water.
First it is dark and you can just barley see the ground and water as if they have no solid form.
Then you see the light of the sun just below the horizon.
Then the light brightens the sky showing the clouds etc.
Then you can see the plants and various types of animals as they start their morning activities.
The bible's got a lot of little nuggets like that! It's like... This compilation of poetry, semi-biographical fiction, Mother Goose-like fables and parables, and political propaganda/history. With the historical context it's about as captivating as reading alchemical texts with the "cheat-sheet" about the dual-layered meanings of chemistry and philosophy they intertwine.
Also I've heard that Jesus describing "hell" was like. Literally describing a dumpster fire in a designated trash-disposal area outside Jerusalem. Which, knowing how often compost spontaneously combusts, isn't that farfetched to me, and the idea that even back then people were going "YEET THE HUMAN TRASH INTO THE DUMPSTER FIRE" tickles me.
Taking a christian ""educational"" show that happens to have a monitor/slideshow next to the presenter and editing the monitor to challenge the claims is just too good
Creationism…….because reading one book is much easier then reading a bunch of different books.
Correction: *Having select parts of a book, mainly vague platitudes, and familiar warm fuzzies, read to you once a week is easier than...well...anything.
My step-mom, who I actually get along with, is a Christian and I was having a friendly debate with her about contradictions in The Bible and I noticed that I knew WAY more about The Bible than she did, and I've been an Atheist my entire 41 year life. Anyway, I asked her if she'd actual read the Bible and she said "No, of course not. That's what Sunday mornings at church are for. I don't understand half the words in that book, so I like to have our pastor spell it out for us". One of the nicest people I've ever met, but boy is she dumb, lol
Creationism.... because *not even* reading one book is much easier than reading a bunch of different books.
I’ve tried to read the Bible so many times from to back (as a Christian) and as an atheist I want to read it even more (to better understand its absurdity) but let’s be honest. The Bible is boring as hell
Aron, I have watched your videos for over 10 years and this might be my favorite. I know you don’t focus on islamic stories in the same way you dedicate your content to christian creationism. Definitely for good reason but as european where christian creationism isn’t a problem, but islamic doctrine is, I hope too see more of that content. I would love to see more of a rebuttal of other creationism myths, if you have the knowledge and time to do so.
I get that you are trying to educate Americans on the subject and this doesn’t affect you as much. It’s just wishful thinking from my part.
I absolutely love your content and can’t get enough of it. I just hope to see more content about other creation myths but I know I’m not in a position to ask about it.
Oh, and I’m stealing “PFM’
By rebutting Christians he's effectively rebutting every other religion in the crossfire.
@@immortalfrieza yeah, Islam is a subset of judaism like christianity is so he’s also taking apart those too
10:40 “It's God's way of making sure we have enough food”, with the implication there's some other less competent deity out there, facepalming while saying “Oh my Me, I forgot to feed the humans again!”
I will never understand how anyone could believe in such crazy things such as creationism. They actually think they can compete with science.
Atheist believe magic created the universe. What’s scientific about that?.....atheist believe in a resurrection of non life. What’s scientific about that....atheist believe in surfing monkeys rocks coming alive on their own fish learning philosophy and magical stardust. What’s scientific about all that?......
@@juniorsir9521
Nothing you said is even remotely accurate; but keep building that strawman.
When you can't even make a counter-argument without being predictably dishonest, you've lost, big time.
@@JanetStarChild there is no strawman. What I said is true regarding atheist. They have no explanation for their existence other than by a supernatural explosion from nothing. Basically magic made them......prove me wrong....
@@juniorsir9521
No; everything you asserted is horseshit.
Disclaimer:
What atheists believe can vary. The only thing consistent among all atheist is their disbelief in the existence of gods/deities.
But, for the sake of keeping this rebuttal simple, let's refer to the common atheist...
Now, I'm going to knock out every one of your stupid claims...
Firstly; the common atheist does not believe in magic. We base our understanding of the universe on scientific discoveries. The Big Bang theory is based on the observation of objects in space speeding away from each other; and scientists calculated when it began, which gave us the age of the universe and the theory of all matter, energy, space & time starting from a singularity point.
Secondly; the common atheist does not believe in resurrection of any kind.
Thirdly; ...surfing monkeys? Rocks coming alive? Fish learning philosophy? Magic stardust? ...What does any of that mean? Just a bunch of incoherent nonsense.
This is the strawman argument I was referring to. You deliberately make false assertions of your opponent's position.
You argue that atheists believe in magic, when in fact, your religion's creation story is supernatural (i.e. magic).
Dishonest theists project their own failings onto others; and what's worst is that, by doing so, they inadvertently admit that what they believe in is rubbish.
Came to see Dave getting corrected on science ----
Got the bonus of Dave being corrected on his Biblical knowledge.
Aron really does know both sides of the argument better than the creationists.
The Biblical litereralists have this basic, non-resolvable problem:
Nobody (especially in a free country) NOBODY can live according to all the commandments. Though it might be fun to watch Dave try.
But I like throwing striped sticks at cows.
I hope Dave doesn't have kids. If he lived according to the commandments he'd have to stone them the second time they said "Screw you!" when told to put out the trash or help with the washing-up. Or maybe watching the slow, agonising death of the first dissenter would be enough to keep the other little darlings in line (presumably that was the intent of the malicious arsehole who actually wrote the commandment).
@@RichWoods23 Given how many similar "apologists" are known to beat their kids (and brag about it), you're probably not far off.
@@RichWoods23 God could command him to kill his child, like with Abraham & Issac.
“The essential principle of totalitarianism is to make laws that are impossible to obey.”
― Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
12:35 Or could it be that the Bible has it backwards? Better question would be what process would plants survive with no heat source at all for a single day? Most plants die when the temperature is 100 below. Even with their presumptions they have unable to answer basic quesitons.
It's almost like God woke up the next morning going, "Damn Me. I forgot to get a light for the plants."
Of course, a multi-omni- being could keep them in stasis from one “day” to the next, until he decided (or remembered) to provide sustenance.
But then we have to ask - why would he do that? Apparently he had not developed JIT production methods yet.
@@altosack As we used to say when I worked in manufacturing, "His methods are JIT."
I seriously wish I had listened this when I was Christian some 5 odd years ago and before. I probably would’ve denied it fervently for awhile but it would’ve planted the seed. You make so much sense Aron. I’m sure I would’ve done the mental gymnastics to convince myself otherwise, at least at first, but would’ve ultimately craved truth as I do now. What’s ironic is if you ask any Christian if honesty is one of the most important things to them, most would say it’s in their top 3. But to deny all of this clear science just to hold on to a belief that was engrained within due to pure geographical birth place, is very dishonest. One could claim ignorance rather than dishonesty but really, if we applied that logic to any other situation, it wouldn’t work. Something so simple as having the belief, “drinking bleach is a good way to kill viruses,” when clear evidence shows the contrary. Reading Genesis and thinking that it is literal is as dishonest as one purporting that drinking bleach will kill viruses. One knows deep down that it’s not true but they’re clinging on to the obvious lie. No wonder our country is going the way it is. Opinions have become “facts” because one says so-the only “evidence” of such “facts.”
I liked the part where they tried to show that the days in Genesis had to be literal days by pointing out 1) On day 3, God used his supernatural, reality bending powers to seed the Earth with fully grown plants; 2) On day 4, God used those same powers to create the Sun; 3) Those couldn't have been millions of years apart because the plants would have died. Except what happened to GOD who can do whatever he wants?
Not to mention _"forming the Milkway and all the other galaxies"_ which are billions of light years away, and then (presumably) filling in all the _"missing light"_ in between... otherwise there would not be much of any visible light for years to come. Oh and it's gotta _"look like they're actual real physical galaxies"_ and so this light show must follow the laws of physics, otherwise it would just look like they're light bulbs in the sky... and obviously we couldn't have that!! 'cause God values realism in his universe, and otherwise it would look as if he cheated, and that would... break freewill! (something something)
It's almost as if creation apologetics didn't think this through... oh right...
The question is though, why would god create plants first and then the sun? Plants need to do photosynthesis. So he first build plants that need light, and THEN he made light? That's like building a car before you invent petrol, but you already know it will need petrol so you just build the tank and combustion engine already anyway, and then ten years later you invent petrol and go "Finally! I can actually use my car now!". That just doesn't make sense
Humanity doomed itself when man invented religion.
Putting him in place with Perry Mason... nice touch! I'm off to revisit my Ozzy playlist now. :)
"God made flowers for us to enjoy!"
I think I might have rolled my eyes so hard, that they are now stuck backwards. Please send help.
They are attractants. Just like the Rafflesia family, they find a niche and grow into it.
Did he forget about the Rafflesia flowers?
11:35 - Ah, I see you also believe in the Great Green Arkleseizure.
Lol
I'm really not convinced that some of these apologists aren't fully aware that the Bible and Christianity is all nonsense but just exploit it and its believers, some in it for money and others just can't stand independent thought and believe alike thinking is essential to society in terms of moral behavior, its all about control.
I found it hilarious when his reason for God was because everything works so well together. Well, if that were true then why does it seem like everything is out to kill us, and why is it so easy?
JW's gave me the excuse that we're "baked in a dented tray", referring of course to those two nasty people sharing treats with each other when they were told not to. Awful. Never share treats with people. Also, don't work together or god will confuse your languages. Oh, wait a second, that's why my neighbour has a dialect! Or he was just born here and I wasn't. Probably god.
It's kind of cute though because I did grow up here and my class mates laughed at me when I tried to speak the dialect so I never learned to properly speak it but I can understand it just fine and my neighbour constantly fucks up trying to speak proper Dutch, thinking I couldn't possibly understand the dialect pretty much everyone here speaks XD This also means that he will never learn from me that the dialect specific words he mixes in there aren't actually Dutch XD And honestly, half the time I don't even know until I talk to a friend from the other side of the country and she laughs at me and shows me in the dictionary that the word I just said is not in the language I thought I was speaking XD
But yeah, why is the body this way, why do we even need oxygen? Why isn't everyone as intelligent as Einstein or more intelligent? It's almost as if nature was like: **tries to kill** Meh, too much effort, you can stay. And everyone ended up just smart enough to not go extinct as a species. Some lazy-ass designing if you ask me XD Nature can do that without even trying.
@@stylis666 "...Why do we even need oxygen?"
How about "Why do we need oxygen when breathing pure oxygen can kill us?"
@@goldenknight578 Well, ever thought about what your body does when you get no oxygen at all? Nothing. Your breathing is triggered only if there's too much CO2, so if you pump your lungs full of CO, you can hold your breath until you're dead.
@@stylis666 I don't need to. The only true cause of death is Cerebral hypoxia which is lack of oxygen to the brain. I never said that we don't need oxygen, I just pointed out that inhaling too much PURE oxygen is just as dangerous as not having any at all. It's the same as water. Sure, we need water to survive, but too much of it will drown you including just drinking too much of it.
@@goldenknight578 Yes, but I'm just saying that if a god existed he not only designed us to need something we shouldn't have to need and that can kill us, he also designed us without any reliable method to warn us if we're getting too much or too little of it.
My point is that if fine tuning is what actually happened, It's not just the universe that was fine tuned to fuck us up, but we were fine tuned to get fucked, not on just one side but on all sides we can get fucked on without our consent.
If a loving god created us, we should expect to be able to go to outer space without dying of cancer or a lack of oxygen or burning up in the atmosphere when returning and dying if the landing is not fine tuned by ourselves as well.
I'm a little disappointed that Big Wave Dave didn't produce a five year old kid to explain 'kinds". At age five, creationist children are experts in this.
His show doesn’t have that kind of budget. ;)
HE is not allowed to be near children.
A snapshot at YEC "kinds" when you get to plant taxonomy: "grass, bushes, trees, and flowers". Don't tell them that all of the above contain flowering plants. Such hilarity often ensues when you get a YEC outside the mammals.
Hey, what about axolotls? Neotenic forms of them retain gills for their whole lives - does that make them fish-kind? But then, what about mature forms - they lose gills and grow lungs. Now they belong to amphibian kind? Can one animal belong to two kinds at once?
I'll never not love how utterly brutal Aron's put downs are
I have a close friend that is a creationist and is an international pilot for a major commercial airline. I jokingly say that he's Amish, and he has to tell the church elders that "angels lift the wings of the plane" when he flys.
How on earth does he reconcile flying with the firmament ?
@@gowdsake7103 he probably thinks he doesn't fly nearly high enough to bump into the darned thing. 😄
@@MaryAnnNytowl 😁 It really is quite bizarre maybe he is a flattard too
Hi. Why not mention this to Wolfie6020? ruclips.net/user/Wolfie6020
@@alanthompson8515 Or Bob the Science Guy; not to be confused with Bob “a 15 degree per hour drift” Knodel.
I see a video by Aron, I IMMEDIATELY hit that like button because I just KNOW it is going to be good
Take it away Aron!
New video!!! How did I not see this immediately?! I am always watching Aron Everyday!
I like that god is supposedly omnipotent and yet the act of creation is described as being "work" or "labour" for god, requiring some "Divine nap-time" afterwards. If god has to rest to restore his MP then he doesn't possess unlimited power, does he? At the very least, there's a lengthy cooldown on his "Create" spells. So, who placed those limitations on god?
Ha Ha god was pooped after all dat creatin stuff.
🤣
Look he tapped all his lands to summon all those creatures. He needed to untap a LOT to be able to cast resurrect for his Jesus and play it the same turn.
The other gods in the abrahamic pantheon maybe? Not that the abrahamic pantheon is remotely original as it comes from an earlier civlisation, but that kind of stuff is just "details" to those that like to pretend that their particular variety of christianity is original, correct or anything other than just plagiarised copies of earlier beliefs.
lmao maybe there’s not a cool down and he’s just tirewd
AronRa, for you I’ll always sit through the advertisements so that you get paid. 🙏🏼 thanks for another amazing vid.
As someone who figured all this out on my own as a child raised in an 80s 90s church family, before videos like this. I find it hard that anyone that really thinks about this crap, really can believe it. I guess it’s easier to think about a wonderful afterlife then dark nothingness.
Nothingness isn't dark. You just vanish. This talk about heaven, etc. -- nobody knows. Actually, nobody knows if you just vanish, or reincarnate, or do go to heaven. Nobody can claim they know, because nobody knows.
@campfireaddict6417 you can easily see the outcome at your nearest cemetery. We are our bodies, when the body dies we effectively cease to exist. When the brain shuts down permanently, YOU shut down PERMANENTLY.
"No explanation at all, just PFM. Pure fucking magic" That one phrase alone describes the non-existent credibility of creationism, as they all say magic without explaining it rationally cause you can't.
I can say I really like your arguments because I find them very valid. I have been called an a hole many times just because I point out the errors in an argument. I see myself as a pragmatist, as it were because it is what it is.
Aron, I so love these! I also loved the snippet, with kit and when the little guy looks in the car mirror and throws it! I know exactly what that feels like! And I still say to Bisbee, I've seen 'animals' much smarter and better than him. Thankyou for doing these, Aron. 👍🥰😍✌
@@thealmightyjesus7018 oh do shut up buddy. No one cares about your nonsensical fairytales
My feet started to cramp when you mentioned the goat head stickers. It just takes me back to my childhood.
His arrogance is staggering. "Flowers are beautiful so that WE can enjoy them". Right... That's why most of them are downright boring through our eyes compared to what bees see.
Of course, he's not even pretending to support that assertion given that he prefaced it with, "well I think it's because...."
Every creature is - to some degree - unique (some more than others). But I am wholly unconvinced of humans' "specialness" as asserted by so many, including Bisbee here.
Edit: spelling.
I would drop the term "creature". It's reminiscent of fairy-tale conjuring spell that creates animals.
@@tron.44 I suppose, though I don't really see that as an issue in this case. I agree wholeheartedly that referring to the universe as "all of creation" brings along wholly unwarranted presuppositions, but I'm unconvinced that "creature" does that to any great extent, and the alternatives are generally clunky (e.g. biological organism).
The creatures and concepts the AronRa has to just gloss over to refute this chucklehead's post sound WAY more interesting than any creation story. Good post, as always.
I wanna see a land seal. Sounds awesome.🤘
This apologetics video series should be considered child abuse. CPS should really have a look at it
Even in grades k-8, if an adult had spoken to me in that arrogant, condescending tone, I would have immediately believed the exact opposite of what he said.
I only hope that in 2000 more years, everyone without exception laughs at our current ignorance the same way Aron does here for our old ignorance. I hate to imagine the idea that some of our least accurate perceptions now will be revered for no reason in the future.
“The Zone” is in Gullible Gulch, Tennessee
I love how they don't get that their every evidence for creation implies god is bound by external rules. Which of course they would consider blasphemous because he is all powerful. He makes all the rules. But that would mean that wherever god put the earth would be the perfect distance from the sun. Or if he wanted us to never go hungry then he could have just made it so we didn't need to eat. There is nothing remarkable about creating fruit to solve the hunger he himself created.
The bot spams nonsense again, and writes in the most obnoxious way possible.
Only 60K views in 6 days is depressing. This shows how much folks love fairytales.
I would love to be a fly on Wavey Davey's wall when he watches these videos of AronRa absolutely decimating every single nonsensical point he tries to make. I can only imagine his reactions would be hysterically priceless.
If you've ever seen the arc of the Milky Way it's amazing. Mine happened in North Carolina on US 17. I'm driving between Elizabeth City and Edenton. I notice my side view mirrors and rear view are dark. So I pull over to the side of the road. Get out of the car and look up. That was as close to a religious experience I ever had. And of course my camera where was it but 30 miles away. And just think around all of those stars are likely planets. Some with environments that could support life. I don't think we're the only ones however I know how far light year is. Consider it moves at some 3x10^8 m/sec. Multiply that times 60 for minutes, 60 again for hours and so on. Just imagine trying to explain that to a Bronze age society. And we are essentially a third species of Chimpanzee. Seriously.
You had to be on some very dark place far away from any light pollution.
I got my best views in the middle of oceans.
There are only the mariners that have ever seen the Milkyway better than you have observed it.
You got a decent glimps of what we can see for days.
The Milkyway is an amazing thing when you have a good view of it.
It is a humbling experience.
I've rarely been that far away from light pollution, but I agree, it is almost like a religious experience! Beautiful, humbling, yet filling me with hope and desire to learn all there is to learn about that vast expanse of space before I die and fade away!
Seems our almighty creator couldn't work more than 6 days without having to take a break.
I absolutely love your videos and how you explain things. Great work as always Aron!
Another great one Aron.
This video makes me wish I had a kid.. if for no other reason than just to show them this video!
So god looks like over 7 billion people all of the time??
The more absurd point is that he individually works in each of our lives, for our benefit. This would undoubtably counter other people’s interest. Does the “God watched” man get the better position, or does the harder worker?
If something goes well the faithful will hail their god(s) name(s) from the rooftops, but if something goes wrong, it’s all part of his plan (or worse, satan’s)
0:13 hehehe, finally you react to that. You just know this guy always wanted a cool nickname but none of the other kids even liked him, so now that he's presenting this horrorshow to kids he thought he finally could pick a nickname himself... and all the kids still think it's stupid. He's not even pretty fly for a creationist guy...
Pig waver Dave isn't that cool a nickname though ;) but it probably is needed after all the pounds of lipstick he put on the dead pig carcass that is Creation Cretinism.
Actually, listening to Bisby is like getting a science lesson from Ned Flanders. Okilly-dokilly!
Love your series!! So informative!!
11:38 So this guy believes in the Great Green Arkleseizure? And fears a time called The Coming of the Great White Handkerchief.
Bless You.
how are the jatravartids mostly known for their quite unremarkable religion? the smartest among them invented the deodorant without access to wheels, and this great feat is completely overshadowed by the religious babble :(
I don't panic. I have my towel. 😁
I enjoy a good fantasy from time to time. Books, TV, movies, videogames, there are tons of fun and imaginative fantasies to immerse oneself into. However, I don't LIVE in a fantasy. Reality is where I live, fantasy is where I visit. This man, Big Wave Dave, lives in a fantasy world 24/7.
The flowers that mimic the smell of rotting bodies to attract flies must be the god's favorites
It took me a second to realize that a "goat head sticker" is some kind of plant. I was just like, "First you buy satanic stickers, then you complain when they get stuck to the bottom of your feet?"
Never thought about it but you could give half the rebuttals with Perry Mason and Matlock 😂