You DON'T know there is a god: Point 1 - Conflicting World Views
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Someone alerted me to a sermon by a local Dallas megachurch pastor making a number of claims that I just can't help but contest and correct. Here is the link to the whole playlist.
• You DON'T know there i...
Pastor Robert Morris' sermon, "How do I Know There is a God?"
• Video
50 episode video series explaining evolution
• Systematic Classificat...
My book on Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
www.amazon.com/Foundational-F...
Berkeley University's introdctory primer, "Evolution 101"
evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...
National Academy of Sciences list of Evidence of Evolution
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NB...
Scott Clifton's "Treatise on Morality"
• Treatise on Morality. 
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160 years and "still a theory"? Okay. Almost 2000 years and still no returned Jesus... so...
Maybe he came in plain clothes, took a single look, thought: "Not worth my time, really!" and left again unnoticed. ;-)
Would not even contradict the Bible since it is written there that he'll come back like a thief in the night and when no one expects him.
@@Segalmed
Wasn't it supposed to be within the lifetime of his apostles ?
@@kevinshort3943 SURE WAS! But Christians seem to not know/ignore that fact.
@@kevinshort3943 You're assuming all of them are dead by now, yes? ;-)
Iirc the statement is: 'some of you will not taste death before the son of man returns.' I guess some apologists will dispute the meaning of 'taste' there. Or maybe one or two got raptured and did not technically die. If there was any sense, I'd consider my hypothesis (which is mine) to make more sense than these. ;-)
@@Segalmed - or perhaps there is some dude hiding in a cave somewhere that is >2000 years old.😂
Probably shaked up with Bigfoot.
“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.”
― Richard Feynman
Greatest quote I've read in a while. Thanks!
@Delon Duvenage I'm willing to bet Feynman was sure that your God doesn't exist
@@alanx4121 I don't respect the bible either except possibly as a collection of literature of inconsistent quality
I read his book. It was a hoot. Seriously clever man and worst of all mischievous! It's a short book I highly recommend.
@Delon Duvenage I'm not sure ghosts, Santa, or the Easter Bunny don't exist. But I'm reasonably certain.
"Evolution doesn't tell you what happens after death"
Hey guys this cake recipe doesn't tell me the meaning of life I think it's wrong
You should have put the eggs in first. That's how evolution works.
I suggest you investigate some of the accounts of those (1000's) who have experienced NDE's (near death experiences) (You Tube) then you might begin to get some idea of what life is all about. (And it's more amazing than establishing a perfect a cake recipe).
Evolution hasn't yet determined which came first--the chicken or the egg ?
@@electricmanist egg
@@electricmanist Yes I'm very aware of the effects of hallucinogens and a lack of oxygen to the brain.
I love that guy at the beginning: “ya gotta let go of the seen things and by that I mean money” he just comes right out and says it. You have to respect that level of bluntness.
No you don't
@@R1ckr011 I could almost respect his ways if he were giving ME the money...
'... level of bluntness.' or 'business'.
A lot of idiots race out and give this gangster their money.
@@cesarepelaschier4829 personally, he looks like a wife beater and a stone cold liar. I wouldn't give him the time of day
Religion is a known weapon, watch how he slices the people's cash out of their pockets or purses. It's a scandalous work of art.
If there was a god, that guy would disappear into a puff of smoke.
Anybody that refers to a scientific theory as "just a theory" is instantly disqualified to talk about any science subject.
Hell, gravity is just a theory too
yes!
"You can't team music in school. It's just a theory, it's never been proven!" - Aronra Jr
@@swolejeezy2603 and what about the atomic theory.there are experts on that and they live in japan.living proof of said theory.there are ukrainian women whose children are dead proofs of said theory.need i keep on keeping on?just a theory is a desperate red herring tactic.
I really didn't know that everything that spouts from the mouths of scientists is the absolute truth ! How wonderful it must be to believe that.
So this pastor's argument is basically: "Evolution doesn't make me feel super duper special so evolution is a big mean-meanie-pants."
That's all their arguments
That is what all their stupidity boils down to, yes.
They can't feel special when they're "just" ape ancestors...
@@WilbertLek Not ancestors, rather descendants. Your "ancestors" are your parents, grand-parents, great grand-parents and so on back through several generations.
Honestly, though, a large part of the problem is that he doesn't know the science, so he's in part attacking a straw man, and in part he's just wrong because he has chosen to remain ignorant about it.
@@antiHUMANDesigns Aron Ra has blown his points to all parts of the cricket pitch.
Aran Ra: "this video is too long."
Me: ha ha ha! There's no such thing as an Aran Ra video that's too long. 😁
Exactly!
Agreed!
i;D BE CAREFUL SAYING STUFF LIKE THAT no matter how awesome the RA dude is we;ll soon enough will get pretty annoyed with the blabber of a demented whoever HE MIGHT BE
lets just pray (haW haw) that ll be a day none of us will ever need to suffer.
I was depressed enough when the HItCH took an early detour
ArOn Ra
Agreed, but please take the time to spell his name correctly.😜
Aron, after watching countless hours of your content it still amazes me how you keep your composure while doing this. You are a good man. Thanks for what you do.
I find Aron's eloquence in his answers genius. Reminds me of Stephen Fry's debate with catholic clergy. It does make it very difficult to listen to evangelists though. Is it that they're so used to lying that they don't care anymore? I'm insulted by how stupid they think we are, just can't stand listening to them.
Great to have Aron back tackling religious stupidity with demonstrable facts
What was he doing before? You said that he’s back, like he left to do something else?
@@mellowtron214 I just meant that it's been a while since he did one of these types of videos specifically.
Obviously he's been producing other forms of content, but there's something about this format that I really enjoy especially.
Sorry if that didn't come across in my original comment, hope that is clearer now
@@paulayork6838 not exactly - if a hypothesis "holds" it might be considered a "fact". But facts are facts, they do not "hold". A scientific theory is composed of a body of facts.
@@MatthewCaunsfield If a hypothesis "holds", after repeated attempts to shoot it down, it may be accepted as a "theory": but this is as far as it can go.
"Facts" are an absolute; but science does not deal in absolutes.
@@Lucius1958 I don't disagree, which is which I splattered my post with quotation marks and conditional language. The terms the other poster used are not really best suited for such a discussion.
Fortunately, Aron explains it better that I in this very video.
‐ How did I get here: I got here through the process of sexual reproduction between my biological parents.
- Why am I here: I personally am here because my parents decided to have a baby.
- How do I define good and evil: I define good and evil based on how many positive/negative effects each action causes.
- What happens to me after death: After death my mind ceases to exist, exactly like it was before I was born, and my body eventually decays.
Pretty simple questions, when I've told religious people this they dont like it because they want answers that make them feel like the are special and important and not just another life form that happens to be living on Earth along with countless other life forms.
Very well pointed out but you are right
These are very simple answers but believers still reject them because it just has to be some extraordinary special answers that suffice
I don't know why?
I'm just tiny bags filled with salty water.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 "Yes I was born by WHY? I can't just be an animal, I have to be SPECIAL!" Your life is like a rock: you can do things with it, and things can happen to it, but that doesn't mean that it exists for a purpose. You have to choose what to do with it.
@Dan Ryan Off-topic, once I came in to work and said "Greetings fellow bags of mostly water!" Co-worker thought I was insulting him. I felt old.
@@DrownedInExile during easter I confuse people by wishing them a happy zombie day. When they inevitably ask what I'm talking about I explain that a zombie is a person that died and was brought back to life, so because easter celebrates the resurrection of a person that died, it is zombie day because jesus is a zombie.
I just realized something. I can't visit USA because I'm allergic to nuts.
"Curse this sense of ethics keeping me honest" that was epic for personal reasons
I'm sure every loyal and/or honorable person encounters that sentiment at some point.
This is Aron Ra on top form. Clear, to the point and 100% accurate.
He's always like that, always on top form, always will be
Totally agree! Top form
Yessir! Always clear and to the point!
@MrZapparin lmao! Wen ur Aron Ra ur on the top form lol
@@jjphank LMAO, as if there were any scientific facts in the bible. Well, ok, there was/is a Jerusalem. Though the same can be said for New York and Spiderman! So much of today's christian bible was created and codified in the early middle ages, early christians wouldn't have a clue who it was about. Really, so much of it are Paul's revisions. That's why you can even have prosperity preachers, which goes against all jesus supposedly said! 💝✌😷🎃
Wordplay like claiming "evolution is only a theory" relies on the audience's ignorance of the fact that the meaning of the word "theory" in science differs from the everyday usage of the word. If the audience had even a basic grounding in science then that trick couldn't fly and they'd recognize the deceit. Honestly, a deception that feeble and obvious should not work - and it's a serious indictment of America's education system that it does.
"America's" education system is no such thing, a patchwork of local school districts under an umbrella of disparate state education systems, only tied together by the standards of Common Core, which is watered down and not even implemented by many states, especially its goal to teach skeptical, rational thinking.
Exactly. I'm genuinely shocked that anyone can still get away with the "JUST a theory" spiel. At least people like Mike Licona come up with new ideas like the ouija board apologetic. It might be a load of old bollocks as well but at least it isn't as stale as this.
It's just fear. Most people fear the unknown and that's a human trait we can't seem to escape.
Not so long ago, humans believed that lightening and thunder were God's wrath... it's mother nature's wrath that we should fear and for good reason.
Take care fellow humans.😷
@@rikk319 keep in mind that the head of the Texas State Board of Education is on record of saying that it's the Board's job to stand up to the Experts.
(Because all the experts know how very, very wrong the Bible is in every single scientific claim)
“But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.”
1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV
Preachers: if their lips are moving, they're LYING.
@Delon Duvenage Yes.
@Delon Duvenage Religion: People who think they know everything yet cannot demonstrate even slightly HOW they know ANYTHING, and INSIST that they are better than everyone else.
We call that hypocrisy.
@Delon Duvenage I I'm quite aware of Christianity thank you very much. I grew up under the oppression of Christianity. That is how I know it's a load of s***
@Delon Duvenage Did you just dismiss my ACTUAL EXPERIENCE , of the years of bullshit I endured? Did you imply that this video you're shilling for is somehow going to outweigh ACTUAL EXPERIENCE? Is this video supposed to provide some great revelation, or actual evidence of an invisible sky wizard and his cosmic magic show?
I got a better idea. Why don't YOU fill me in. See, we both know that a video cannot be directly questioned, and that I'm just supposed to take it at face value. You're TERRIFIED that I'm going to pose questions that you don't want to answer.
"Just watch the video." Nah, I'm good. I've heard enough prepackaged bullshit from the God Squad. 56 years now of hearing the same stupid arguments and the same baseless claims, over and over and over.
And before you say, "I don't have the time....." then the question is, 'Why did you run your mouth in the first place?'
Thank you Aron Ra for this. I am a still newly admitted Atheist. But I am openly now. This short series is one of the best on RUclips. I wish you best both professionally and personally. Thank You Again.
Every televangelist:
"I have zero understanding whatsoever of evolution, astronomy, astrophysics, scientific terminology, or any relevant science for that matter. But I'm going to explain why they're all wrong, because this book with talking animals, magic, and misogynistic desert deity tells me so. Now please pass the collection plate. Praise jesus."
Hallelujah!
And I’m going to say it the exact same way, making the exact same idiotic arguments as every other equally ignorant televangelist. I’m not going to look into any of it, I’m not going to even attempt to make an original argument, I’ll just repeat what the others say.
- Evolution is just a theory, check
- Darwin and the eye, check
- Missing link, check
- No transitional fossils, check
etc etc
Isn't that peculiar. The Almighty can do anything but for some reason needs money. Lots and lots of money.
Amen and pass the biscuits
@@stewiepid4385 those Mercs, BMWs, and Audis are pricy. The missions for priests to faraway lands (sex vacations actually) aren't cheap, and those child molestation settlements are all eating into the luxuries budget.
"without afterlife, why do we mourn the dead?" Seriously? Why would we mourn if we think that wasn't the end of that person?
That would actually be pretty good reason to invent stories about afterlife - to reduce severity of losing someone, to confide in idea that they weren't fully lost but just 'went away'.
If you think that people go to a paradise after death then why are you mourning them? That'd be like crying because your friend went to Fiji on holiday.
Next time someone tells you "there are no atheists in foxholes", ask them "why are there so many sad people at funerals?". They ought to be overjoyed that their loved one has gone to heaven, the fact that they aren't points to one of two possibilities: either they know that person failed to live up to the impossible standard of behaviour required by their imaginary god to get into heaven, or they know that person has ceased to exist forever
This is the plot of The Invention of Lying - which is still a great movie.
I did not get that far in Robert's video. I stopped when he said that Darwin said the human eye would disprove evolution.
@@nrellis666 I respond with "there's no xtians in the doctor's office or the emergency room"
But they are just conceding that they believe in their invisible friend because they are afraid of death.
"Someone might not believe its wrong to enter your home and shoot you"
Yeah I agree completely with Aron against this point. Not only will most people who do this know that it is wrong, but if they truly didn't know/understand that it was wrong we would typically classify that person as clinically insane.
@Firedeath25
"Someone might not believe its wrong to enter your home and shoot you"
Well, it's not in the Bible. And maybe they just want to maim you.
There’s no money in truth, lies are very lucrative ask any evangelist.
Especially when spoken in a strange language... ruclips.net/video/2wfFqd7OIZ8/видео.html
Aron could make millions if he pretended to be a converted atheist. Fortunately he has respect for himself.
Even better... he’s got respect for other people.
He doesn't know enough to be convincing as a 'converted atheist,' and five minutes talking to him would show that he would not be. You can't 'pretend to be a converted atheist' very long until you are known as a fraud. In that, he has respect for himself and others, yes. As an atheist, however, no. His reasons are still bad.
Let's hope he never reads this when his conscious has left him because that's actually a good idea to become rich
Think of all the mega churches who will invite him to be the speaker lol
Yeah,and when he has milions of followers then he will tell the truth🤣
Reminds me of someone who said James Randi could have been one of the greatest con men, but instead devoted his life to showing others were.
'Evolution is only a theory'
'Darwin thought the eye couldn't have evolved'
'No species has changed into another species'
'There are no transitional fossils'
'Evolution says we're products of chance'
His sermon should have been titled 'Creationist's Greatest Hits'
Their objection to being a product of chance (never mind that’s not what evolutionary theory posits) is so hubristic. They want to feel special and created special by God, so a priori they can’t accept any other possible explanation.
More like "Creationism's Greatest Shits".
Funny thing is that evolution makes us more special then "God", because we are atm the peak of evolution and next evolution will be even better.
If the godidea are true then this is what we are, allways was and allways will be....
And that's a very sad thought
itd be funny if it wasnt so sad, when hovind ham et al dont use your material anymore,,,,,,, seriously new material man, new material, if your ever in a position where we can get a creationist saying 'okay this happens' thats game
@@totemictoad4691 it's because they can only argument old ideas
Found this channel and fell in love with it. Can't stop watching.
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
― Soren Kierkegaard
Many religious people are both.
Many religious people are sad that they live for an afterlife. Being an atheist I live for this one life I have. Cherishing the time I have. My morality is based on a mutual desire with other humans to reduce suffering and increase happiness.
@Shimmy Shai It took me years of being an atheist to get over my fear of if I'm wrong and going to hell for it. 14 I became "spiritual", 19 called myself atheist and 26 I got over that fear. I'm 32 now. I grew up religious excepting Jesus Christ and fearing hell and it took years to get over it.
@Juan Perez Live your life to the fullest. Appreciate the good things and love the people you have. Fight for a good and healthy life for yourself and others because that's all we have.
Clearly you don't understand what Christianity is all about . When we accept christ there is no fear of hell . Also the two greatest commandments are love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself . This my friend is were real love joy peace comes from
I hate that I live in a world where grown adults believe in magic, mythical creatures, and invisible sky dictators. It's pathetic and disgusting.
But cool in cartoons.
@@Scyllax only in cartoons because, you know, derived as myth.
@@BleedForTheWorld Eh, in fantasy novels too, but even those are usually more interesting than the bible.
people believe all kinds of tales, in fact most human made systems, e.g. money, are tales
кιℓℓυʍιηαтι Tales, in English, are narrative fictions. Money exists.
I went to one catholic class in high school, it was full of scary ,stupid scenarios, just reinforced my non belief. When l die and if there is something that exists ,l will still be an atheist.
technically if you knew something like god exists, you wouldnt be atheist anymore.
but it seems that you wouldnt want to worship it
I love these videos you don't understand how much some of us actually need this
When i was a young lad i always wanted to visit and live in america. Gradually as i got older i realised just how messed up of a country the good old us of a is. A 1st world country with a 3rd world mentality.
We aren't all like that
Sad but true and speaking as a citizen of Virginia, 65 yo. I remember when the US was a great country now it's full socialist crazies.
@@55Quirll what do you mean by socialist?
USA stagnated in early 90s before that it was kinda leader in all kinds of metrics.
The loss of an enemy USSR made them look into themselves to find the foe to fight for.
Now with their work laws, healthcare nightmare, gun laws its just not even an option.
To trade my healthcare, peaceful schools and sorta fine infrastructure to an American one, no frikkin way.
@@nathanmckenzie904
1. Government tells you how much of your labor you get to keep
2. Who your Dr is
3. What insurance you can have
4. The insurance companies must take people with pre-existing conditions
5. They take over companies that don't do as they're told.
A rough run down. A good example is the Plymouth Colony, almost died because of socialism.
Content like this makes me glad to be a patron of your channel.
Me to !
You can say that again
J Hankins citation needed.
@@jjphank did you listen to the video?
Evolution is a fact, a body of knowledge build up for more than one century of research with a extremely powerful explanatory power
We did not come from nothing and abiogenesis is a entirely different thing from evolution, you are welcome to believe what you want even if that conflicts with the real world, although then you can't call it scientific, just believe that God has no form, thus making every form like his, therefore creating man in his own image means that all of the animals (cause we are part of them) and everything else is God's image, so he made evolution a thing (I don't believe a word of what I said about god)
See?
A god that does not conflict with the fact of evolution, because it is one
And I made it up, in seconds...
No matter how found of it we are, an idea must be discarded or revised if it does not fit with our real world (as our dear Carl Sagan put it, not in these exact words but you get it)
@@jjphank look at him bringing the fraud himself
Kent Hovind
It's interesting that he says "every human being wants to know these four things"... I'm a human being and I don't give a damn about those four things! I don't know or care how I got here, morality is just a matter of doing the right thing and not doing the wrong thing, meaning is something we create for ourselves and destiny is just so much bullshit.
I’ve uttered similar sentiments (if I didn’t have this darn conscience..) regarding all of the ‘send me your money’ preachers/ministries.
Why am I here? One might as well ask "Why is there yellow?"
And god said "let there be a really ugly colour". And it was so.
@@jjphank I hope you understand that the reason we can't see other wavelengths of light is not because they are blocked, but because our eyes cannot detect them.
Also the divisions of the light spectrum are completely arbitrary and language-specific. Russian has ocean blue and sky blue as different colours, English has red and pink, etc.
@@jjphank That is not even wrong. But you do have a point; it resides on the top of your head.
@@jjphank Yeah ok Dunning, you clearly know what you're talking about
@@jjphank Color perception has fuck all to do with "before and after the flood" (whatever that means) and everything to do with the types of cone receptors in the eye. There exist individuals who, like some birds and reptiles, have a fourth type which "sees" farther into the ultraviolet. They perceive several orders of magnitude more colors than the rest of us.
"Tetrachromats can see colors that most people cannot - up to 100 million, estimates suggest, which is 100 times that of the average human. Most people have three cells, or receptors, in their retinas, but tetrachomats have a fourth receptor, which may be what allows for their heightened color perception."
The trait is more common in women.
Jesus tap dancing christ, you just gotta love how Aron is straight to the point no bullshit facts and evidence, kikcing biblical ass and taking names. In my opinion he is by far, one of the best debaters ever !
Wait to you hear someone say Jesus Tea Baggin Christ
@@bradcarver8127 🤣🤣you got me, im deaed 👍😂
Aron Ra is fun, but he lacks subtlety. He doesn't seem to have any awareness of what he sounds like to a believer, so he stands little chance of convincing people who don't already agree with him. It's almost impossible to ever win anyone over by piling on a heap of facts and confidence. It often actually has the opposite effect, sometimes known as the Backfire Effect, and Aron Ra almost seems to be deliberately trying to cause the Backfire Effect.
@RDE Lutherie "That's because you are assuming what he wants to sound like to believers, and I'm guessing you mean he want's to sound nice and friendly?"
No, he probably wants to sound like he's got all the facts on his side and he's just trying to explain how things really are to people who consistently refuse to listen. That's probably how he sounds in his own ears and in the ears of people who agree with him, but unfortunately that's not how he sounds to the people he wants to educate and convince. The reason people refuse to listen is due to his approach.
"Did you ever consider he wants to sound angry and fed up?"
That seems plausible, but he could still sound angry and fed up without triggering the Backfire Effect if he played his cards right.
"The backfire effect refers to dismissing and/or not considering new or better information to form ones views or extend ones knowledge or understanding."
The bigger issue with the backfire effect is that it causes people to become even more convince of their current position even while we're presenting evidence that shows their position is wrong. The evidence has the opposite effect to what one would expect. It's not just that the evidence is ignored, but rather it somehow encourage people to go against the evidence, so Aron Ra is making people even more certain of Creationism.
"In trying to convince someone of something, or point out errors, when instead of being friendly and accommodating their lack of understanding, one is frustrated and pushy, or even mean about it (offensive mode), then you are right, and it's less likely you will teach or convince them of anything right then and there."
Being friendly might help sometimes, but the more important thing is to seem modest and trustworthy. It's counter-intuitive, but we should try to avoid saying anything that they disagree with as much as possible. Every time we say something that they think is false, we damage our credibility, and the less credibility we have, the less likely they are to listen to us. We can't force people to change their minds. We've got to guide them into wanting to change their own minds by getting them to think about the mistakes they've made until they discover those mistakes for themselves. For example, instead of presenting facts, we can try asking questions or telling stories. However we want to do it, there are strategies for convincing people of things, and Aron Ra is often an excellent example of what not to do.
@RDE Lutherie "I really don't think Aron is trying to convince them of anything."
That may be true. He just seems so frustrated that people don't understand evolution. It's hard not to wish he'd say things in a more strategic way so that he'd have a better chance of actually reaching a creationist, but his audience probably wouldn't appreciate it if he changed his style now.
"Would jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?"
Ray Stevens
If Jesus exists and he came back, I don't think he would go on a TV show.. He would head to the hospitals, drug centers, skid row, homeless shelters, food banks, charity organizations, etc.
@MrFpunk : I'm not religious, but how was Jesus for violence?
My wife who retired as the State Coordinator of Adult Protective Services once told me that in order to find out if someone is mistreating the elderly is to follow the money. I think we can end all such debates as this in just this fashion. Hucksters who play upon peoples greatest fears to make themselves rich and who cannot allow people like Aron to expose them lest they have to work for a living.
I bet that he knows deep inside that evolution is a fact, but he doesn't care, becasue decieving people is the best way at controlling them and he needs their money.
I’m not fond of “mind reading”. You probably would not like it when they say that atheists know “deep inside that God exists”. That said, I understand the temptation to suspect they have some cognitive dissonance. But, we can’t read minds so we can only guess and should be careful not to state what other people “really” believe or know.
@B0wl30 Looks like we got ourselves a spambot.
@@CaseAgainstFaith1 You don't have to read their minds. Their coping mechanisms are indicative of the fragility of their faith.
No, he WANTS their money. He doesn't "need" their money.
I agree with that also, I think 90% of these preachers are just pretending because they need bills to pay
The real obstacle to giving up belief for many people I believe, is giving up the belief that those who have passed before us do not live on, but are nothing.
That's not true at all. The person as you knew them lives on in your memory and in the products of their life. It's like your favourite band splitting up, it doesn't make the music disappear, there just isn't any more. And that's sad, but it's not nothing.
@@PlatinumAltaria What if I didn't leave anything behind but a rotting corpse?...
@@WilbertLek Then the worms will consider you a god.
@@PlatinumAltaria
A Broken God...
@@WilbertLek Odin only had one eye, I'm sure that won't be a problem.
I feel your despair, I Iive in Fort Worth. As a female in my fifties I have the additional pleasure of having the vast majority of people I encounter assume that I share their beliefs and views.
Aron Ra has the SICKEST wardrobe. And the best logic
"Sickest" wardrobe? Perhaps if he was wearing a hospital gown...
Its a hipster thing
I don’t know how you have the patience Aron. Listening to him propagate endless crap just gives me the shits... Anyway, hi from Australia and fingers crossed for the USA...
@@Scyllax It took me 1. Maybe you should go read a book, instead of spending your time correcting RUclips comments. Thanks for the comments, Ramsayhat. Back at you, from the US. ❤
Hey @Ramsayhat - another Aussie here.
Hey, comma, guy, am, I, doing, it, right,?! 😉
M. Hall wow, you’re only 40 something years too late with that joke. Yawn.
Teddy McGillicuddy you’re doing beautifully. Better than Shatner.
Actually, Aron, we have 2 soles. One under our left foot, the other under our right foot. (23:39) But as far as "Soul" goes, that's just a term to describe a more mellowed-out form of Rhythm & Blues music.
@Les Brown The "soul" is merely the conscience of the individual. It takes no physical form or shape. Other than this, the term "soul" is applied to a smoothed-out, mellower form of Rhythm & Blues music.
Some people have whole CLOSETS full of soles! Not to mention tongues, laces, etc.
@@robertmesser557 The laces are to tie the tongues.... tongue-tied! Ba-dum-Tsssss!
@@neilforbes416 Now THAT left me tongue-tied to my very sole!
@@robertmesser557 LOL
Another thing about morality is that it changes over time and is different in each culture. What was considered moral 500 years ago may not be moral today.
It's wonderful to listen to you talk AronRa, the truth so eloquently spoken is absolutely mesmerising. Very refreshing.
Aron Ra's eloquency puts him on the same level as Carl Sagan. I would go as far as to say he is the Carl Sagan of Evolutionary Biology and Paleontolgy.
@@oremooremo5075 Sagan was an astronomer, not a philosopher nor a historian, and thus in those conversations he was often wrong. Aron isn't an astronomer, either.
I was talking about his eloquency
@@oremooremo5075 One's eloquence only counts when one is being right. Neither Sagan nor Aron are on this subject of 'religion' (which is so general as to be useless) and epistemology. He restricts 'knowledge' so much that most of human knowledge is left out. He's willing to burn down the house to get rid of what he thinks are mice.
@@aristotelian3098 How did you arrive to the conclusion that you were right?
When I hear someone like that say that the missing link is still missing, I always hope that someone yells: "Lucy!".
“Your impossible promise of a posthumous paradise is just another Hotel California.” Damn. Think that would make Carlin proud.
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
The lies these charlatans spread are so disappointing. Especially when I know millions of people around the world believe in this nonsense. Edit: I feel like should clarify that I am atheist. All the way. Preach away, but understand that you're talking to a void that does not care about you, your feelings, or your beliefs. I do not care. Repeat, I don't care. So move on.
And they're always the same handfull of lies. Each and every one of them has been factually disproven over and over again.
@@jjphank obviously you've not read it. or that's one of the worst pieces of English, I've read
@@jjphank - no contradictions? You gotta be joking. I could see MANY MANY contradictions in the Bible even as a teenagers growing up as a believer whilst reading the Bible. In fact those contradictions are the leading factor in my eventual crisis of faith.
I would try to consult my religious leaders for clarification on these contradictions, and overwhelmingly their answer was just that I needed to pray to God and he would calm my mind, and that I just needed to have faith... In other words they had no answers.
So like many atheists, my path to non-belief was paved by read Bibles.
@@jjphank not as young as I would like to be, but not so young as I cant spot a prat.
@@jjphank - lol, you are not worth my time
Aron, you are a tremendous inspiration. Your work in explaining monophyletic, phylogenetic taxonomy should be required learning for any student studying a range of science interests. Your recall of pertinent facts when confronting various people humbles me. I can confront religious people but can't hope for more than anyone observing taking note of my arguments. I'm not as kind as you are, or as calm if I get worked up.
AronRa is the most scientifically articulate person i know.
Thank you for keeping my mind sharp & guided against ignorance.
You know that the word "theory" has been explained to him.
I knowwwww!! It drives me insane, it’s one of the points which is always explained to them yet they refuse to listen or blatantly ignore the facts and lie because it’s compelling to their congregation 🤦♂️
@@bigbudugary1285 I figure it gets explained to them, then they go on their Facebook groups or their forums where they all say "It's just a theory.". But it drives me crazy too.
Explaine? Yes. Understood? No.
Perhaps, but if so, he’s hoping it was not explained to his target audience.
@@RustyTube It's not like they don't hear us. But, when I try to put myself in their shoes, (as depressing as that is) they hear atheists and science communicators explaining what theory means in a scientific context and on the other hand they hear their creationist buddies saying "It's only a theory." over and over. and I guess it's like "Well, who am I going to believe?" Because think about it. If they were going to listen to both sides and critically evaluate within the framework of accepted scientific paradigms, they wouldn't be creationists.
I was enjoying the systematic classification of life. I watched every single episode of it and I was disappointed when it came to it’s natural end.
I watched the entire series 3 times. It was that good. And also quarantine.. :D
i’ve recommended the series to people who believe that there’s no evidence for evolution. I am not very popular among my family members because I don’t buy into creationism or the intelligent design scam. I have an uncle who is a preacher and we don’t see eye to eye on much.
@@smashexentertainment676 Yeah, I keep re-watching it, as well.
Excellent episode. I look forward to the entire series.
I missed this type of content. Keep up the great work, Aron.
How alot of their followers cant see its a money scam is unreal.
Theyve been conditioned for generations to do so. Cant blame them. We still say bless you when people sneeze
I don't think that theists care about how rich their pastor is or gets as long as the BS he/she preaches makes them feel good.
@@rogershrum8977 If I want to feel good... A bottle of Scotch Whiskey, a good book, nice music or even the company of my wife is far better than going to church and listening to their drivel. The church never made me feel good. Bored yes, good? No!
I’ll stop criticizing the evangelical Christians if they just pay me off. Say, $100,000 or so? Sounds moral to me.
That preacher converted me, when he said Evolution is still called a theory I literally shouted "Oh my god!"
What a tool.
OMD Oh Mei Dawg.
that intro fade with the heavy metal riff is amazing!🤘🤘
Thank you for spending your time doing so much for the giest
"Only the savage view the endurance of pain as the meter of worth"
- Chesire Cat (American McGee's Alice)
Tell that to the Marines: 'Pain is just weakness leaving the body!'
@@aristotelian3098 Man is that a stupid quote. Pain is your body's alarm system going off because it's being harmed. Weakness is not a factor.
@@tastethejace _Man is that a stupid quote. Pain is your body's alarm system going off because it's being harmed. Weakness is not a factor_
Tell that to the Marines. They've been doing very well for a long time with that concept, and helped keep you and millions of others free enough to say such idiotic statements. You've seen Admiral McRaven's 2014 commencement UT speech? I recommend it. He says much the same thing, and the SEALS show the results of living by it. Apparently free speech is not always smart speech, my Lord Littlemind.
@@aristotelian3098 When abuse becomes normalized in a system, the psychological products of those abuses also become accepted norms. The army and inherently the marines are essential because of the world we live in. But you can’t act like those experiences and that life style doesn’t have demonstrable trauma inherently tied with it. In an ideal world, we wouldn’t have to subject anyone to such experiences.
@@joshuataff4911 _In an ideal world, we wouldn’t have to subject anyone to such experiences._ Quite, however:
_The army and inherently the marines are essential because of the world we live in_
We do not live in an ideal world. We need people like them who will endure pain. We find such enduring profitable in other areas, as well: the Kalenjin learn to endure it and so produce many world-class marathoners, for example, as well as making them functioning in their own people's life.
So it depends on what you define as 'pain,' which psychologically and emotionally includes frustration, fear, and rejection, the withstanding of which leads to a mature, balanced, and realistic life. Psychology calls 'exposure therapy' the enduring of the feared in order to gain mastery over it and so end a disorder (which we can describe as a psychological state that interferes with healthy functioning). In this case, enduring pain lessens or even overcomes it.
The original quote is entirely untrue and cowardly.
Seems that guy is trying to equate "world view" with "religion".
Irony is that he doesn't get, that is his own individual world view, and when scrutinized against people of his own faith, there will be many many conflicts and differences of opinion on what certain massages mean.
@@jjphank "Bible is scientifically accurate"
LOL you're lying. To yourself most of all. Does your god find that pleasing?
@@jjphank - you don't believe in hundreds of religions and thousands of gods... Atheists simply believe in one fewer.
@@jjphank You surely haven't read much if you're still repeating that old discredited idea that atheists "just want to sin".
@@jjphank Declaring yourself wiser than someone you don't know at all, making condescending statements like "keep drinking your milk, junior," telling this person to humble himself, and declaring that what motivates his skepticism is to escape accountability to "God" for his "sins" doesn't make you look like a beacon of wisdom to me; it looks more like an embodiment of both narcissism and the Dunning-Kruger effect.
This video is not too long! I could watch hours and hours. You give me hope Aron. Thank you.
None of Aron Ra's videos are ever "too long", his brilliance is astounding!
For some reason he relaxes me so much.
We mourn the dead specifically BECAUSE we don't believe in a life after death. Why would i mourn someone, knowing they just went to the best place imaginable because that is literally what christians tell us heaven is? Why would i be sad about thinking that person now found eternal happiness? On the flipside, if i think that life ends, and lost someone, and know that everything they were, everything they ment to me and everything that i used to do with them is now forever gone, why would i not mourn them? We mourn someone, not because they think they went somewhere else, but because we know they are gone, vanished, and that's final. We won't meet them again, we won't see them in heaven. They are gone, purged from the world, and all that remains of them is the memories that live on in us until eventually we die as well and their memories die with us. And when everyone who remembers you is dead, then the world will be just like you never existed. And that, is what we mourn.
No, we mourn the dead because it's sad and it hurts to longer have someone who's meaningful to us in our lives anymore. We experience a deep, irreplaceable loss of someone we had an emotional connection to. Nothing more. Nothing less. You (and several others here) are trying to make it something it isn't. PLENTY... TONS AND TONS of people who genuinely "believe in" an after life mourn their dead exactly as much as the rest of us who don't. Sorry, you're wrong about this.
@@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff He's correct. It's different for them, they literally believe that their loved ones are now in a better place and that they'll soon see them again and spend eternity together. Do you also cry like that when someone just moves for a couple years to another place? If they were genuinely certain of their beliefs they should be happy that their loved ones finally made it to the place that is their lifes goal. After all it's a better place without suffering and after a short while they'll see them again. To them if they truly believed than they just won't see them for a short while, while the rest of us actually knows that we'll never see them again, because they no longer exist. They are not in a better place, but at least they are also not in a worse place. We have genuinely lost them, and because we had our connections to them are we sad that they are gone for good from our lifes. Nothing will bring them back, we'll never see them again. That's why we mourn knowing fully well that the people we love are truly gone from our lifes. The way religious people cry either they think they won't see them ever again, meaning they either think they'll be in another place than them after death, e.g. in hell vs heaven, or deep down they actually do know that death is the end and they'll never see each other again. They cry because they lost them and don't really know that there is an afterlife. They force the belief of an afterlife on themselves to stop the crying. But if they were honest they'd see that their loved ones are truly gone. If they were certain that the people would be in a better place and they could see them soon enough and spend eternity together, they wouldn't mourn like that. After all it would be just a brief parting. Your lost one parting a bit earlier than you but eventually meeting at the same destination.
Psychological defence, that's why. Religion is just one of the defence mechanisms. And it's not that effective, as we can see.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanism
No this is why you mourn. not we. well we because it's what i also believe but your attributing we to all humans in this case, when we have many different reasons world wide.
@@kyleellis9177
That hardly was a coherent sentence. What is your point?
Good to see this type of content return, feels like it's been a while.
Just came up in my home page - AWESOME vid.
Thanks for the awesome vid aron
I was about to go to sleep... I was so close... ah well.
Me too. But AronRa is speaking and I can't help but listen to his soothing voice.
Me too, (being from the Midwest) but then I Ope before I closed the app seeing it was Aron.
Sucker,.. im just waking up 😃
It is 12:25, midday here
It was just after 5am Midwestern USA but I enjoyed it! And now maybe I can doze off
The shoes the pastor is wearing are Phillip Plein shoes. They are eight hundred bucks.
Hell u say.
Wearing those is the pastoral equivalent of "In your face, bitches"
Hallelujah! 😂😂😂
Paid for by gullible christians.
What happened to "“If you want to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor,"
Love the music at the end of your video.
Well, my first thought is that tbe background, with all of that midnight blue (my favorite color), is gorgeous! As well, and more importantly, your clear, solid logic is just as gorgeous, too, and I thank you for what you do.
You know, I guess it's because I'm not an American, but it's frightening to me how much say and reach (thus real power) people like these have in (certain areas) of the USA. He (the pastor) can't be that misinformed to by "just" wrong out of ignorance. He's lying on purpose, and is willingly spreading lies and wilful ignorance.
They all do. It's apologetics101.
@Derek It's an experiment that will never be run, because money. The most notable signs would probably be revealed, though, if they suddenly found themselves without wealth and unable to effectively influence others the way they want, destabilizing the personality they use to front the way they do. But that's the cornerstone of any egoistic extremity, when it comes down to it. An unwillingness to change, grow, learn and - in their own words, in some places - "die to oneself and be reborn anew". Power's ability to corrupt? Complacency of comfort/success, at the very least.
@Emperor : Maybe he's not lying and actually believes what he's saying, because he's made no effort - indoctrination, fear of what it would mean for his identification with the world and himself, whatever - to attend to anything more. It'd still be wilful ignorance, of course, but he's not necessarily spreading "lies", per se, so much as misinformation. At the very least, he's made the mistake of not genuinely testing his faith by taking a look at what "the big boogeyman" is trying to get people to believe in. Perhaps he believes he's not strong enough to withstand such temptation (while falling prey to other types)?
@Derek I'd say you're spot on. They'd also be the absolute worst type of narcissists. As well as compulsive liars. How are people so persuaded by these mega-creeps?
Have you seen how much the mega-churches generate as income? Tax-free? That "just can't" be the reason they do it. Simpletons are so easy to part with their hard-earned money.
Very scary that luddites like this have such influence.
@@jjphank Rich coming from a literal manic street preacher.
Are you sure you know what "luddite" means? Because I'm pretty sure you're using it wrong. He seems to have no aversion to technology.
@@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff The theory of evolution is a technological advance and he clearly has an aversion to it.
@@jjphank If you'd been born in Saudi Arabia, would you have been as fundamentalist about Islam?
@@markderv Yes he would.
The saddest part is you know these charlatans are smarter than they appear to be, but it’s counterintuitive to their paycheck.
my god that was grate .well-explained aronra nice one keep up the good work
*"Only Siths deal in absolutes."*
That is where we are: Religion clings to the fiction of "Absolute Truth"; while science concerns itself with working towards a better approximate understanding of the Universe in which we live.
*"It is better to ask some of the questions, than to have all the answers."*
- James Thurber, "Fables For Our Time"
but then there should be only 2 crisschunz in the world. Oh, that would be great
Are you absolutely sure about what you're saying?
@Warstar Do you ever wonder why people go to war with each other?
@@chrismassey7563 Oh, look, it's you.
so that guy is saying a world view is a story u tell yourself to make u feel good ....lol sure dude that's what it is lol ...nah that's just religions
Great videos!
It’s hilarious btw that I get theistic ads when watching this... Good for you, they give you money 😂
Love it... Great Video...
“How do I know god is real”?
“You don’t”.
End of video....
We can actually prove an all-powerful God or any all-powerful being doesn't and can't exist. Can God make a rock that's so heavy he can't lift it himself? I he can make said rock he's not all-powerful since he can't lift it, otherwise it's obvious.
@@TheExstud Sorry, but this argument will never convince a theist. They would simply move the goalposts by saying that God being omnipotent does not mean that he can do anything but any *logically possible* thing, and that, since creating an unliftable rock and then lifting it is logically impossible, it's a nonsensical question. A better approach would be to ask them if their god can do something that is logically possible, such as improving himself. He can't improve himself because that would mean that he isn't perfect. The theist would then probably move the goalposts by saying that their god is not omnipotent but simply the most powerful being that can exist, not realizing that this would also mean that he isn't perfect.
Sa Hihi I’ve seen this same argument used numerous times and like the commenter above mine it can easily be dissected.
Religion really is nothing more than hope for the fearful. The fear of death and the possibility that this is most likely your one and only chance to actually live is frightening.
Imagine how productive and amazing this planet would be if we humans were living like we don’t get a 2nd chance. Life then becomes and emergency and the want to live it to its fullest becomes priority.
The thought of a heaven is essentially a plan B. Having a plan B detracts from plan A which is actually tangible and is something we see and do everyday.
Religion truly does poison everything and the amount of debates I’ve ever had with theist it’s clear most of them haven’t ever really read their said Holy Books. Cherry picking talking points from your local church without actually doing your homework is like bringing a stick to gun fight.
To each their own I guess.
@@stefantherainbowphoenix Improving something that's already perfect isn't logically possible either, just like the unliftable rock. However, if we take 2 of his properties, like he's all-knowing and he gave man free-will, we can show a contradiction, God knowing our actions in advance would make those deterministic and free-will an illusion.
@@TheExstud Well, If God is omnipotent, then yes...and no. Why and how? When God creates something, he chooses whether it's going to be heavy or not. So with that in mind, he would technically have to choose, himself, whether or not he would (or wouldn't) be able to lift the rock. And if he would be able to make this rock he created to heavy for himself to lift, well all he has to do is make it lighter.
Been waiting a long time for something like this again from you Mr Ra
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"There is one correct world view." Oh yeah, how do you know that? "That world view is Christianity." Again, how do you know that? "A world view must address four things." Oh? Why four, and why those particular four? It's all nothing but unsupported assertion.
There are many cases where a murderer has said it was God that told them to commit the crime.
Thats some sick god.
Yeah!, but . . . Ken Ham is Australia's fault.
Thats why he went to America, most Australians wouldnt swallow his nonsense.
hey man, they can only apologize so many times.
If Ken Ham is from Australia, why are there still Australians?
Fruit cakes and even bigger are the ones that fall for it.
Good job. Well done. Melinda
Keep up the good work Aron. Someone has to expose these con artists.
I’m actually shocked he didn’t use the word “kind”.
The only thing that was missing
I start my new job in two weeks mr. Ra and will be a patron very soon.... we need to educate people and you do it, concisely, precisely and with an intelligent well thought vocabulary!!!
I love that you included a clip of Robert Tilton...lol...that man was nuts
Thank you mr Aron Ra .
I understand why these people like Trump so much. He reminds them of their version of God.
Like that Darkmatter2525 video
This might be better explanation than you think
@Ima Deity You might be able to find a painting of God with slightly orange skin coloring, so yeah
@Ima Deity Orange, evil, wank stain.
I think you are over-thinking the whole issue, leading you to a false conclusion.
The worst about it is that this line of logic will continue to destroy any and all possibility of keeping a society running.
The issue, more than likely, is just simple tribalism. They like Trump, because Trump is Red and they are Red. That makes Trump good.
And so long as you don't realize the core cause of that, you won't have any stability for decades to come.
Again, and again, and again. Aron eviscerates these ignorants, superstitious and liars like no one! Great vídeo Aron!
Omg at @0:42 where he starts doing some forward robot moonwalk while preaching the good news I absolutely lost it. Taking the audio out at the perfect time 👌 lol I’ve watched that like 20 times😅😂
Great episode
14.05
Funny how he says "a book written in 1859" like that's an outdated book.
When his is like 2k years out of date.
"A great way to stay wrong forever"...love that line
“Before you discount the senates, listen to the end of the senates” - Pastor Robert Morris ( Verse 17:04 )
"Evolution doesn't tell us what happens after death." Yeah, and? Evolution doesn't tell us what happens after death in the same way that electrical engineering doesn't cast our horoscope and geology doesn't provide marital counseling.
Aron Ra is a legend. His videos shining light on the horrors of faith ought to be mandatory viewing in schools from an early age.
He is without doubt a formidable debater. Articulate and free thinking. I don’t believe a single apologist exists who could hold a candle to his wisdom. There’s a few others out there in the same mould, Matt, Sam, Michael and of course the late great Christopher Hitchens.🏂
@@danielrobertson8866his wealth of knowledge and ability to pluck facts and verses from his encyclopaedic memory to put religious nut jobs, fruitcakes and evangelicals in their place is really awe inspiring. He is a great, great man!
"Christians talk about hell all the time but they never talk about heaven"
This
THIS
I mean if you think the idea of a never ending hell is thoroughly moronic, try getting a theist to explain heaven
Make popcorn first
Heaven is the obliviousness you experienced before birth. Hell is this life right now. Everyone filled with doubt and the ability to hate. Oh an nuclear icbms.teaspoons of manufactured virus that could literally wipe out humanity etc.
Find your way out of the fog surrounding heaven/hell and maybe find a path by investigating consciousness- -. You'll not find that so easy to dismiss--- although then you might find popcorn somewhat inadequate if you are looking for a soporific as an aid to life.
@A Swan
Well but of course
The stick is several times more effective than the carrot
Ask any five religious people about heaven and you'll get eight different answers. No one has ever experienced a state of pure euphoria. But we can all imagine what such a state would be like....individually
Ask 10 people about hell.....
It's unanimous. We've all experienced the exquisite pain of being burned by one thing or the other
It's why everyone is familiar with Dante's Inferno as the archetype for modern day "hell" even if most people have no clue that that is where their version of eternal torture comes from.
A Greek comedy
Even less people are aware that Dante's story also had a part where he travels to heaven.....
@A Swan So we all exist in a world of robots --a world of robots--a world of robots. Tell me, who programmed you? -- it might be the same person as the rest of us !
(You limit your awareness by restricting your thinking).
"Impossible promise of a posthumous paradise".
Awesome line!
When it comes to the afterlife, talk is cheap.
This is one of AronRa's best videos! I just shared it.