The Best Lo-Fi Pedal You Haven't Even Heard of...
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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0:00 Intro
2:33 Walkthrough Begins / Utility Page
6:10 Wow & Flutter
9:43 Degradation
12:53 Reverb
16:44 Presets
19:12 Touch Modes Begin / Magnetic Dance
22:06 Tape Stop
23:45 Broken Machine
24:45 Repeater
29:07 Asynchronous Looper
34:40 Scattered Conclusions / Gen Loss Comparison
Kinotone, RIbbons, Kinotone Ribbons 
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now this is epic
Me, reading this comment : "now this is epic"
lol was wondering how long it'd be before i saw you here
Pedal Royalty is our Em👸
Jack is awesome peoples !!
Now Jorb saying epic to Emily saying this is epic is even more epic. 😊
Epic
I made an entire album using only an OP-1 into Ribbons into a field recorder. 100% live, one take, pure grit. Truly liberating.
I wanna hear it
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Link spit it out, shameöess plug click baiter. Wanna hear
@@eleven9286 im sorry your music is bad and you're bitter about it
best wishes @@eleven9286
This is crazy! Once again such a great demonstration, I’ve set a reminder in my calendar to try and get mine on Jan 30th. This pedal is so musical and I could use it in countless productions. Thanks for you videos man!
Cheers, good luck getting one!
Ribbons Rules!!!! What a great debut from Kinotone Audio.
I bought one back in the fall. It’s pretty kick ass and once you get used to it, it is very easy to navigate. The infinite reverb and the loops speed changes are glorious.
Your keyboard playing is getting very good! You create nice moods and tones. Thank you for all your hard work, you are a refreshing face in the gear world, which is typically pretty redundant and uninspiring.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Fantastic video! Watching this was like the audio engineering equivalent of a Bob Ross episode - in the best possible ways!
I like it. Thank you for the thorough demonstration.
I love the 9:05 sounding like a VHS you'd watch in class in the 90s. What a perfect video. I love this pedal and how this was explained!!!
lol more like a film strip in the 60s. VHS wasn't anywhere near that lo-fi. Unless you're talking about a tape that got melted in your car and somebody dumped a beer on your VCR. But then it would probably just not work at all. There wasn't much room for VCRs to fail gracefully. Mostly they just played perfectly but ate the tape when you tried to eject it.
@@delta-9969 nah, a film strip would have more projector noise, my guy and the frequency sweep of the vibrato is all off for a film strip in the 60s ok. It's VERY clearly the sound and warble of YOUR CHANGING BODY on VHS in an '91 RCA VR645HF 4 Head Hi-Fi VCR through a Panasonic CTN-1341R CRT TV. The level of grain and warble properly matches not only the sound of the blown out school TV speakers, but also the feeling of learning my body is rebelling against me and will change in ways beyond my control and life is no longer going to be SNICK and Pete and Pete and POGs. I'm gonna have to wear deodorant and shave my face and kiss girls on the mouth. This is the perfect emulator for that and if you don't hear it, you clearly need to upgrade your studio monitors ok
@@delta-9969 VHS linear audio was indeed that lofi on the longer play modes. VHS hifi was, of course, actually hifi.
I saw this posted on Instagram when it was released! Nice to see a demo of it
I just preordered Ribbons entirely due to this video. Thank you for the comprehensive and thoughtful review.
Nice to hear, hope you enjoy it!
The tape emulation is really cool. It makes me want one with the same interface but with a more traditional set of keyboard sound sculpting controls, like a page for EQ, one for pitch and distortion, one for delay and one for reverb.
The spirit of mutable instruments lives on.
Hi this is Nightshade. I just came across tour channel when I was trying to figure out how to add mono cables to my patchbay. I very quickly gell in love with tour channel. You have a great presentation and I like your mentality. Keep it up!
"please god not again"
- my bank account before watching Jorb videos
😅🙏High praise, be sure to call me out when you do a video on resisting synthfluencer marketing
Synth\beard grooming team-up series is now obligatory. Get to work, the algorithm demands it Cameron. Emily harpist is lurking on here to. Throw her into the mix as an adjudicator just for the hell of it
This video convinced me to get a Ribbons. It should arrive in two days. Super excited to plug it in an explore. Thanks for the great video demo.
🙏🙏🙏Enjoy it!
This pedal is just.. wow.
no words 🖤
Very very nice demo !
🙏🙏Cheers, I agree!
Not only WOW! But also FLUTTER!!
What a brilliant little pedal!
Wow! Something else I don’t need, but absolutely need
Literally same
It’s like a vulf compressor in a box and then some. Sweet!
The Degradation, reverbs and filters are great. then that dropout and noise pops. love the depths.
Looks awesome!
Thanks, Jorb. Now I have GAS again lol
Killer demo. The angled mirror to get the oscilloscope in the shot is genius 👌🏻
😅🙏 Proud of the reflections
Man oh man! That’s a very nice pedal. Here I was figuring I was done with my weird guitar pedal collection.
Great vid as always jorb!
Fire comment as always gamer
my goodness, i just bought the shallow water effects pedal last week and i must say...thank you for this review. and the heads up on the pre order!!!!
I actually cut a long ramble where I talked about the shallow water approach to lo fi, where a bunch of classic synthesis / sound manipulation tools add up to make something feel "lo-fi", as opposed to just modeling the specific behavior of imperfect medium...... And ribbons does both!
Fantastic demo.
It’s like mood, gen loss and blooper had a baby
🤣And Pladask Draume was a midwife, mutable instruments Clouds was a doctor
Damn it Jorb… you’re making me want to buy this $400 thing that I don’t need… that I can’t even get! I have the walrus M1 which I absolutely love, but have been wanting the gen loss mkii and this video is really making me reconsider that… Ribbons seems to be just as high quality and the 4 page setup is frankly genius!
$150 will get you a decent vintage cassette deck that'll get you all these sounds and way more. Best purchase I've ever made.
For those of us that still have the very old analogue equipment and like to use it, but don`t like to wear it out due to maintainance, I can see it would be very useful. As an intergrated part of a larger production I think it would be cost effective even though right now I don`t know the price, for a volume of work it can`t fail.
Finally found one for sale in the UK and jumped on it. Due to receive it tomorrow. This video was a big part of me wanting to get one.
holy heck this thing mutates timbre in some wildly fun ways!
This is the one … lovely bit of kit 🎉❤
Damn that looks awesome
Sweet review. Was able to order a B-Stock one, currently awaiting for it. I think this will add up nicely to Gen Loss and Mood
Man! Just bought it after your review! Not cheap, but very interesting little „bring me my childhood memories” box!
Proud of that, hope you enjoy it!
@@JorbLovesGear I need to wait until April, for that time I’ll be bing watching your video!
Great review! Juno, I used to have one of them once 🎉🙏🏼💥
Amazing video! Highly influential in my decision to switch from Gen Loss mkii to Ribbons (only have need/space/$$ to keep one). Not a dig on CBA or Cooper, I just think Ribbons has a more usable feature and control set for what I want to do. I hope you do a similar video with Mood mkii!!
Never, ever thought I'd ever even consider selling my Tensor, but here we are.
Ribbons is on my board for this exact reason! The looper mode is literally like having four Tensors in series. That's enough of a selling-point for me, all by itself! 😁
I got a pink one in the last batch. Its really really cool
i'm about to receive one and i'm very excited. Coupled with my own Juno, SH101 and others, i hope to get that lush lofi BoC vibe.
Peeerfect pairings
On my list. Same situation as you, with trying to get one, for a while now.
I'm curious to know what you think of Nunomo's Qun. I have that on the way. It's an amazing little device, and it just keeps expanding. I'm totally stoked that it's got a granular-capable sampler.
Those labels above leds remind me of Mutable instruments CLouds.. Very very good pedal and demo.. good job
The mutable inspiration, and learning from their open source material is mentioned specifically. Good catch
@@JorbLovesGear HA just my good eyes and ears i guess;) woow so many good thing happened from MI open source stuff.. so sorry to hear about the end of that amazing small company..
Yay! Jaak is awesome and I helped beta test this baby, so glad you got your hands on one! Super cool to give some shine to a small manufacturer ❤️
🙏Bless you for putting it on my radar
10:10 I honestly thought there was a mosquito in my room
I've had one since the beta testing period. It's an amazing pedal with some great updates along the way. This is one that I'll never part with.
Damn. Was hoping someone wouldn't make a video about this one because they sell out so quick
My b, but you're right, mf'ers were flying off the shelves without me
This pedal is beautiful!
I almost ordered a Ribbons, but instead went with the Gen Loss MK2 by Chase Bliss because it's not menu-divey at all, but still very deep. I'm definitely very pleased with the tape emulation (customization and midi controls are wild), and often will add a little bit of mixer reverb at the end of the chain. Ribbons looks super versatile, though.
I really do see that as the biggest difference, user experience. Well considered!
I've got both, and while the UX is way better on the Gen Loss (even the dip switches aren't as bad as people say), I greatly prefer the flexibility and sound of the Ribbons. There's no wrong choice here, though - I love that we have options like this.
@@moldy_pirate5284 have you tried using the M4L midi program for the GLmk2? you dont have to touch the dip switches at all, tremendously convenient to have remote control over every aspect of the pedal from Ableton.
Ribbons is freaking nuts! Love it! Must be expensive (I don't wanna know how much)
Not sure if they're available rn, check the website!
Super ausführlich 👌😊✌️😎🤟
At about 15:29, what you are playing sounds like an old VHS Kung Fu movie that was recorded from a 16mm film.
It is pretty deep.for such a tiny pedal.
Oooooo...I want one! Excellent presentation.
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Sounds great! Have been looking at that cre8tive keyboard rack as well 👀
Niftykeyz is cool! Really is a format I like
DROPS in TWO HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUCKLE UP
Do I need it? No.
BUT DO I NEEEED IT?!? YES.
Great explanation of the controls on this, very good interface design for maintaining a balance of intuitive operations with four separate pages of effects! Very powerful.
Also digging the bipolar knob adjustment on that hiss/pops and pre/post verb mix. Clever!
Edit: the jumper config for TRS midi pinout is really a nice touch. Very thorough design! I'm a huge Volante fan as well 💚
The concept is really useful but I'm missing a delay page before the reverb page, and the ability to turn each page on and off.
I had to check my RUclips playback speed multiple times throughout this video because the effects sounded so much like watching a music tech demo at 2x speed.
Have you ever looked into the Source Audio Collider? Looks like a good synth-fit as well!
I tried the source audio stuff at Namm in I think 2019, but that was the last time. Would love to try em again!
You are NOT helping with my pedal gas, Jorb!
Next preorder opens on the 30th......hahahaa
this pedal reminds me of the soundtrack of the Netflix series 1899
feels like an rc 20 in a box ^^
Exactly what it is minus a filter option
The pedal sounds incredible. I love that it includes low-pass and high-pass filtering, along with the choice to put reverb before or after the tape effect.
However, I was watching this video and thinking, "How the hell am I going to remember which knob parameter is the one that splits two functions below and above twelve o'clock?"
I am getting tired of the format of cramming, let's call it a "deluxe" feature set, into the footprint of a regular guitar effect stompbox. The single-knob-multiple-functions thing where you're depending on an LED to give you some form of visual feedback. It has kept me from ordering pedals I would have otherwise been interested in, like the Alexander Superball or a lot of the Meris stuff. [At least Ribbons is TRYING to give more visual feedback with the LED brightness shown to correspond with each knob.]
If there are that many parameters available, I want to see some kind of digital screen that will read out what exactly I'm changing. I understand that aesthetics are important--It's cute! It's pink! It's got blinking lights on it!--but a screen would really help to dial in the level of control that this audio feature set deserves. It doesn't have to be big, or super menu-divey.
great video
Dope dope dope
I’m waiting for its return.
Great video! What oscilloscope are you using? I've been wanting to add one to my set up
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This is amazing, but..shockingly, I've never been more equally impressed and convinced I don't need a pedal before in my life.
Is this what growing up feels like? 😂
Wow.
I think the pages might benefit from motorised faders a la Chase Bliss, but that might bump the price up to $699 instead of $399 😬
Put a tuner on it, and it's basically just a whole pedalboard
I’ve heard someone on youtube complain that the Generation Loss MkII was unusable for him due to latency. I’m guessing it’s more of a problem for people that are more guitar-oriented. Since you have experience with both pedals, could you tell me how they compare latency-wise? Thanks for this lovely review, by the way!
Gen loss just had an update to change the latency! And I wouldn't say unusable. Just at partial dry / wet mix, you can notice phasing with *some* short attack sounds.
And the original latency was intentional, to allow for a pleasant chorus with dry in the mix, primarily for guitar players.
I didn't compare their latency, but have had no issues with either, although I have mostly used both at full wet mix.
@@JorbLovesGear Thanks for the almost immediate reply! ;)
I hadn’t researched this further, and didn’t know it was intentional. When you think about it, it’s really another low-fi effect, to be used as such. Makes sense.
Thanks for clearing this up. I’m not gonna dare ask which one you like best. ;D
sick
Hope someday you find a good deal on a Access Virus TI, a swiss army knife for synthesis, not least it's effects and stompbox emultaions, which you have the experience to judge. Snow is portable, but 61TI has the famed Fatar TP8/S keybed, considered by many (pre-Osmose) to be the best synth keys ever. And you can test the limits of VA on 16 channels ;) My go to pre-kemper Kemper guitar amp. Good VST integration on Mac so long as you don't go past Mojave. Those 2011 MBPs are cheap now, and have digital mini-jacks--MPC1k ready :)
Virus TI is on my list! Just need a good deal to show up.
Does it have the same problem with short transients as GL? (Beating)
GL mk2 is not much usable on arps and useless on drums cause of that
Not sure what you mean, latency? The new gen loss firmware does address this.
I didn't test very scientifically, but did run drums on my mpc through it, and didn't notice any issues with flams or phasing at ~half mix, compressor only
Can confirm, no gritty / flammy sounds and it works great on full mixes and drums
Well I've heard of it now haven't I Jorb? Haven't I?!
Oh no MY TITLE
Can you do a video on the Dreadbox Hypnosis? Amazing demo jorbo ❤
I saw this pedal in guitar center used,and didn’t know what it was. Didn’t have time to try it. So wish i did. Would have bought it on the spot.
do you ever use a reamp or di box, especially with older pedals? I assume most of these new pedals are all line level?
You're right, a lot of modern pedals do handle line no problem.
But for older stuff I personally am not very scientific about it. If it distorts I turn it down and compensate on the mixer
@@JorbLovesGear thanks
@33:13 Completely agree. Such a shame the loops can't be effected by the touch effects. That would be insane good!
I think this pedal makes more sense for a keyboardist, since its so menu-divey and you could use your free hand. For a guitarist, I think Gen Loss, although more basic than Ribbons, has a set-it-and-forget-it feel. I have a Gen Loss and wanted Ribbons, but your in depth video actually turned me off to the idea. If it had a big box enclosure with additional physical controls, I’d be all over it. The Tape Stop (at least from your video) sounds better to my ears than the Gen Loss though. Thanks for the rundown.
This is literally all I can think about. Make it a box with 16 knobs, even just a little bigger and use mini knobs. You can charge me more, I'll pay a premium no problem. I simply cannot stand diving like this. Its such a trend in the audio world and I couldn't hate it more. I know I sound like mister negative here but I am just so off put by the interface, and its a shame because I absolutely love this pedal and would 100% buy it if it had a different interface. Sidenote: I like strymon volante a lot.
@@5etz3r That's why I got the Bygones Pro with 24 knobs. End of chain after a Strymon Nightsky.
@setzer they should’ve done a Microcosm-sized enclosure. But perhaps for a newer company there are greater costs for doing that. Maybe they’ll do a deluxe version down the line.
@@RustyTonesJr oh baby, I haven't heard of this bygones pedal, now THATS what I'm talking about. How do you like it ? this looks like the one I'd buy.
@@5etz3r It's incredible. It's got 3 modulations, vinyl warp, tape jitter and scrape. A compander section for degrading your signal, drop outs and stutter. Snap/pops, hiss, and hum--- which the tone/style can be adjusted.
It's a serious lofi pedal. The guy did the DSP for the Blooper.
But I must say that the Ribbons is also an incredible pedal. It has built in reverb, which all tape style pedals need.
I sold the mk2 in a week and ordered the Bygones. Total upgrade.
Didn't look properly at the first shot, thought it was massive 😂
How do the Ribbon features compare to Fairfield Circuitry’s Shallow Water?
Somewhat different approaches, shallow water is using existing audio circuits (low pass gates, vibrato, etc) to emulate some imperfect medium, and the controls are built around those circuits.
Ribbons does some of that with the filters, but also digitally emulates more specific behavior of bad tape, like everything on the failure page.
This is AMAZING. It is transformative, I really just want to hear everything through this pedal. Is there anything else out there like this that I won't need to sell an organ for? I mean I *will* but I'm just curious.
There are some multi effects that either have Lo-fi modules or can stack enough other effects to come close. Ms70cdr is a classic rec, that's what comes to mind
@@JorbLovesGear I have the MS70CDR! I'll have to do some digging and see what I can find / build that's similar.
This pedal really reminds me of a mutable instruments product.
do you have a video on your oscilloscope? Been really interested in picking one up!
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@@JorbLovesGear thanks!
Makes me think of Viktor Stirborg's music esp. from KrainaGryzbowTV
Jorb good. Me like.
Making the pedal massive is very David Lynch
Twin peaks changed my life
How does one go about setting up a frequency TV like that?
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I think this may be the missing link I am needing for my next voyage
You've sold it
Let's hope I can get 1
Ribbons sounds of my past at my finger tips
Also this is a real Emily Harpkins kind of pedal
True tho
Speaking of REVERB, should a
Bucket of Money fall from the sky into your lap and/or a friend Loans you one, I’d love to hear Your Take and review of: CHASE BLISS DARK WORLD (dual channel reverb).
I am fairly confident, following your viewing some of JOEL’S presentation videos that, not only will you want to OWN the pedal, but you might have imaginations as to what it would be like to have Joel as a new Best Friend! Oh, also, don’t be scared, but…it’s Digital (on purpose).
PS. Short story: I was on the verge of trigger-pulling on the Empress Reverb (as being the Holy Grail of… although the Meris Mercury 7 keeps pestering me) and then…DARK WORLD surfaced.
Dark world really did catch my attention when it was announced, but now that I have so many stereo synths, I cant imagine putting big bucks on a mono reverb...But their CXM 1978, now that looks like a DREAM
Another lofi pedal? What does this bring to the game from the Gen Loss II or Shallow Water?
All are really different, I've got a Lo-fi pedal explainer in the backlog actually, to talk about all the different approaches
@@JorbLovesGear Interesting! Will have to watch. 🧐 Combine them all and make LOWFI VOLTRON!
Hey, I love the oscillator, does anyone know what it is?
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@@JorbLovesGear Ah jeez I now saw that you magnified the display for us to see it bigger, I thought it's a mysterious creature that has a big ass display up front and the controls in the back 😅 Thanks man, appreciate it!
Now Ribbons vs Gen loss mk2? Which is more versatile/fun!??
Ribbons is more versatile, a little slower to get to certain things, but controls very well for how much depth.
I can see someone ignoring a lot of the extra bits in this and preferring gen loss
We need a pedal that does rain effects or log crackle.
do you have a link to buy a good osciloscope?
i bought mine totally not knowing what to expect, get whatever is used and cheap. I talk about it in the scope video
Is this giving chase bliss generation loss a run for its money?
Certainly worth comparing them, really impressive from such a small scale operation