@@Leonard.L.ChurchI don't think so. The sticker they say you can't open devices are, but I've never seen anything saying voiding warranty at all is. If you blatantly mess up a device, and they can prove that, you probably won't get your warranty
It’s dissapointing that a 50+ year old cpu manufacturer, the second largest in the world only beaten by fricking TSMC can’t design a cpu without it deforming or some other defect ☹️
"Everyones new cpus are borked" then "intels new cpus curve differently than old intel or AMD" and "low convexity for flat cpus, like AMD" Sounds like not an everyone problem tbh.
wait why are you saying EVERYONE's is borked, AMD made the flat part flat, intel is the one whose flat parts are curving, intel is the only reason there's discussion of "convexity" with regards to a part that is designed to be a flat rectangle, they're selling one special fan for intel's fucked up processors, and a normal fan for all the other processors that stay flat
Yeah this is wild. So they are basically warping due to high heats, and do so in a certain way. So these guys are selling things to fit those curves? Dafuq? Yeah your idea sounds like such a simple fix. So much so that I am like why isn't it done.
PTM Honeywell sir, it already exists. Phase changing basically let the thermal paste melt and go pretty much liquid at high temps, covering all or most the spots instead of leaving air bubbles from deformation. It can last up to 10 years too. It's what's been saving the laptop market in the past years but now ppl are even using on desktops bcs of the lid deformation and hot spot issues. (Also it's not popular bcs it's only manufactured by China, there's no equivalent anywhere. Even Lenovo basically ships it from China just to rebrand with their name but they don't sell it themselves, they only put in their laptops at the factory).
Yeah, Noctua made their cooler just technically better by making a few different models for specific CPUs, mods, new fans and some better density and an extra pipe. But still, so little difference and a cheap 280 does better for much less money. I hope in 10 years they somehow design something with three rows of fins and still fit in a case or whatever. We need something new. Maybe all copper?
The reason laptops manage to cool CPU of same specs better sometimes is because the CPU is basically integrated into the cooler and has no need for thermal paste inbetween, rlly that applies to any chips where this is done they cool much better.
I'm constantly thinking about how I don't know if I put enough paste on my cpu but it's temps stay steady and in spec so I'm just not gonna mess with it for now lol
In my 40 years alive, everything gets more and more expensive (putting inflation aside) and the quality keeps getting lower and lower. The only thing anyone cares about is getting their hands on as much of your money nowadays, what they sell you is insignificant.
I buy contact frames for my CPU's, it just makes sense. If im spending north of $1,500 on a CPU, MB and AIO, why not spend 15-45 bucks on a contact frame?
CPU companies trying their damned best to make products with designs made to fail on purpose while companies with integrity are engineering fixes to the purposefully flawed designs
Mine is still a 2500K. I acquired several of them from works years ago, and I can still drag them kicking and screaming to 5ghz. I have a couple of 3570k's too, which are useful when I really need pcie3 instead of pcie2 - like for my infiniband cards. They were top of the line back when I stopped gaming, so I've never needed to upgrade. I have 4 or 5 laying around in a desk drawer because it's hard to find good boards for them without paying the earth.
Why does noctua care about intel the current intel CPUs are so bad no one buys them so why waste money designing a cooler only a couple of thousand people will buy?
Cause not all countries got access to AMD chips. I cant even find a good one in my place and all I see is Intel. Hell my local computer shop only has Intel cpus.
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honestly, im surprised more people arent using the little thermal grizzly plates for intel to flatten it out and get better temps and contact
those contact frames void your warranty
I dont have problem with curving cpus with 12 gen temps around 55°c
@@Savagegamer-sq7sm voiding warranty is illegal in the US
@@Savagegamer-sq7smhow would they know you have them. They won't.
@@Leonard.L.ChurchI don't think so. The sticker they say you can't open devices are, but I've never seen anything saying voiding warranty at all is. If you blatantly mess up a device, and they can prove that, you probably won't get your warranty
It’s dissapointing that a 50+ year old cpu manufacturer, the second largest in the world only beaten by fricking TSMC can’t design a cpu without it deforming or some other defect ☹️
Build it yourself then 😊
@@julianvillaquira4127 no, go w/ amd
@@julianvillaquira4127 horrible argument
Pumpin' more juice into ol bessy makin her moo louder has been the Intel way for a while. Especially with these 13th and 14th gen chips.
@@julianvillaquira4127 sure bud, give him same resources as they do minus tons of out of touch boomers on manager positions
As a man on the toilet I can confirm taco bell wasn’t the right choice
Devil on the shoulder: "But you enjoyed every moment of that dinner 🍽️😘😈"
What's with the random comments on these shorts? So Outta pocket lol
It was not a right choice, but it was necessary.
@@First-Name_Last-Name the comment section might not need him but he wants it
Stay strong, you got this
"Everyones new cpus are borked" then "intels new cpus curve differently than old intel or AMD" and "low convexity for flat cpus, like AMD"
Sounds like not an everyone problem tbh.
Not my problem atleast
@@Mini_Noob22no, it's all your fault It's all because of that cookie you had before Intel's 12th gen CPUs launched
"Intended for flat CPUs" is a sentence that makes me highly uncomfortable. Can't we all agree that we should just make a GOOD lid?
we wish
They are too busy to stop the production line to calibrate the machine 😂
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wait why are you saying EVERYONE's is borked, AMD made the flat part flat, intel is the one whose flat parts are curving, intel is the only reason there's discussion of "convexity" with regards to a part that is designed to be a flat rectangle, they're selling one special fan for intel's fucked up processors, and a normal fan for all the other processors that stay flat
Oh, so you are trying to defend AMD for any kind of reasons? Ridiculous.
@@BillyRazOr2011 Are you high?
go watch the gamers nexus video on this, both bend in different ways. only AM4 had a flat surface, AM5 is warped just like intel.
Making the plate thicker and making it resist warping could be a multi-million dollar idea
Yeah this is wild. So they are basically warping due to high heats, and do so in a certain way. So these guys are selling things to fit those curves?
Dafuq?
Yeah your idea sounds like such a simple fix. So much so that I am like why isn't it done.
"so borked" my ryzen 3dx is the craziest cpu i've ever had. blew my mind how much of an improvement it was.
So sounds like AMD cpus are fine and Intels are f*cked eh?
Unfortunately that doesn't go a long way in explaining why there are 3 coolers.
Can't they just make the IHS flat? They're manufacturing things that are nanometers in scale but can't make a flat piece of metal?
It was flat out of the box. But the retention kit bent them.
That is some new info I havent heard before. Thanks!
"let's fix something it worked well and make it worse"
Not sure what you're referring to - these coolers, Intel's mounting of the 12-14th gen CPUs, LGA in general?
It's okay if your CPU curves a bit to the right...
Lots of them do, it's totally normal 😜
Nah I don't think you're talking about cpus anymore chief 🤣
Nah, mine curved to the left
Patiently waiting for future proofed thermal paste
We already have thermal "pads" that get better the longer you use them. It's a pad when you stick it on but turns into liquid when heated.
PTM Honeywell sir, it already exists. Phase changing basically let the thermal paste melt and go pretty much liquid at high temps, covering all or most the spots instead of leaving air bubbles from deformation. It can last up to 10 years too. It's what's been saving the laptop market in the past years but now ppl are even using on desktops bcs of the lid deformation and hot spot issues.
(Also it's not popular bcs it's only manufactured by China, there's no equivalent anywhere. Even Lenovo basically ships it from China just to rebrand with their name but they don't sell it themselves, they only put in their laptops at the factory).
That‘s why Noctua is the GOAT
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"Borked"😂😂
As a man still using 10th gen Intel with a D15, this is funny to see.
I use a plate and my old Arctic Freezer II on my 14600KF and temps are good 👍
They should of been raising the bar either way instead of pulling a Intel 😅
Yeah, Noctua made their cooler just technically better by making a few different models for specific CPUs, mods, new fans and some better density and an extra pipe. But still, so little difference and a cheap 280 does better for much less money. I hope in 10 years they somehow design something with three rows of fins and still fit in a case or whatever. We need something new. Maybe all copper?
The reason laptops manage to cool CPU of same specs better sometimes is because the CPU is basically integrated into the cooler and has no need for thermal paste inbetween, rlly that applies to any chips where this is done they cool much better.
Watching everyone flip on Intel in favor of AMD is like the reverse of the 90s/early 2000s and it's crazy to watch.
i have an old NH-D15 on a 7800x3D very good cooler under medium load 40 degree Celsius an on my old 1700 at max 32
I wanna air cooler for my next build, I’m either getting the NH-D15 GEN 2 or the ASSASSIN IV VC VISION, idk, but the assassin iv vc looks cooler
I guess this is a good time for someone to get a thermal pad to fill the gap
Im feeling dumb, and thinking of making a turbine compressor with that kind of cooler
I like the part where poor build quality is reframed as a feature.
I’m still using an i7 10700 on my current build.
Imagine not being able to make a piece of metal flat.
Using cyberpunk slang a little early aren’t we?
I'm constantly thinking about how I don't know if I put enough paste on my cpu but it's temps stay steady and in spec so I'm just not gonna mess with it for now lol
I just run pentium man
Excuse me. "Borked"?
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Yeah it's a word I started seeing a few years ago
wtf i just bought all this stuff and didnt know this.
Mine also curves differently
I’m pretty convinced now that AIO’s are the all around best way to go. Overclocking or not
In my 40 years alive, everything gets more and more expensive (putting inflation aside) and the quality keeps getting lower and lower. The only thing anyone cares about is getting their hands on as much of your money nowadays, what they sell you is insignificant.
Cant that also be solved by changing the tension thing on top of the cpu socket?
I buy contact frames for my CPU's, it just makes sense. If im spending north of $1,500 on a CPU, MB and AIO, why not spend 15-45 bucks on a contact frame?
Albeit corsair aio has a bad wire problem my temps havent onced passed 55°c
Does it affect only new CPUs, or also a few years old such as AM4?
Only intel 12th-14th gen, not AMD
@@Mini_Noob22 ok, thanks 👍
What AIO would you recommend for an i9-14900K?
I believe they simply are stubborn and don't want to recalibrate the flat bed in the production line
CPU companies trying their damned best to make products with designs made to fail on purpose while companies with integrity are engineering fixes to the purposefully flawed designs
have not had an issue with my 12700k
Nuh uh, my new CPU is an i5 7500
Mine is still a 2500K.
I acquired several of them from works years ago, and I can still drag them kicking and screaming to 5ghz.
I have a couple of 3570k's too, which are useful when I really need pcie3 instead of pcie2 - like for my infiniband cards.
They were top of the line back when I stopped gaming, so I've never needed to upgrade.
I have 4 or 5 laying around in a desk drawer because it's hard to find good boards for them without paying the earth.
Dear noctua, please make a color other than diarrhea
A another way to get your cpu stupid high is to not even have a cpu cooler
how the fuq is this a problem
Look, I understand you do this channel to rais support money for your son, but like, can't you at least mark your sponsorships in _some_ way, please?
Why does noctua care about intel the current intel CPUs are so bad no one buys them so why waste money designing a cooler only a couple of thousand people will buy?
Cause not all countries got access to AMD chips.
I cant even find a good one in my place and all I see is Intel.
Hell my local computer shop only has Intel cpus.
Woo number too please pin
What a disgusting misrepresentation of facts
What?
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