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For people who are asking tho: Use distilled water with copper and additives to prevent algae and bacteria growth. Coloured cooling is optional
Don't get opaque liquid as it will cause problems down the line (unless you really want to)
An ethylene glycol based coolant (like automotive antifreeze but less additives) is also an option and is what you'd typically see in an AIO or a commerically available coolant solution. Somewhere between 25-75% concentration entirely inhibits the growth of microorganisms with no other additives
@@commenter1639 pretty sure a lot of companies fixed that sediment issue?
@@NthnLikeCodeine yes but its always good to be safe
Don't we want deionized water?
That sticker on the air cooler not being centered is hurting me.
Cry about it
@@notorious4194 pull the sticker of
Womp womp
Whatchu mean bruh I ain’t see anything
Where
For the first time pc builders, it would be smart to go the air route for now, and eventually change it to liquid cooling. I find myself uncomfortable putting liquid in an electric device
Distilled or RODI water doesn’t conduct electricity. Only mineralized water like tap or spring water conducts electricity
the liquid wont damage the electrical parts. 💀 research before making comments also AIOS come with the liquid mate
@@epzoong
AIOs don’t need you to fill the liquid. It comes already inside the system.
@@epzoit will as the water will collect dust etc when touching the metal and thus short circuit
Bro answered every question except that 💀
literally
The point was that liquid cooling isn’t something you can just slap onto your PC, and it should be researched heavily before buying.
It’s not suitable for a simple question.
Bro did not pay attention to the video
Bro doesn't have an IQ to understand the video
boozo didnt even watch the video lmao
I get that he's giving advice and i do agree with him on it, but Zach atleast answer the question
You shouldn’t be trying to liquid cool PC if you don’t even know the answer to a basic level question like that
there's water cooling then there's specially made coolant.
it HIGHLY depends on your computers systems/set up
water is a wonderful coolant, but you have to be diligent/careful about water changes and the impurities in the water as those impurities cause electrical shortages. you also gotta be careful about its corrosiveness, depending on the water you use, it can damage your cooling setup/leak.
specially made coolants COULD be found online, but if your pc isnt setup specifically for it, you cant use it.
its a lot more complicated than that, but id rather not yap more than i have to
@@Dylanj8795 brother how can people know it if he wont tell it
@@TheeggMAN_ Google💀
@@TheeggMAN_ By learning about liquid cooling on their own
*tries to do research*
"Nah bro, you gotta research this stuff, don't do it."
Asking a youtuber isnot doing research if that is what you mean
@@ryboodlebrother his whole job is building PC's. You can research by asking people about stuff. That's how you learn
@@longleggedtoad7680 thats asking someone to do your research for you I understand it gives this guy a video but a google search would have answered this instantly
@@longleggedtoad7680 it’s like a one in 1 million chance for him to actually respond to you💀
@@longleggedtoad7680 Or you can google it instead of waiting for a likely busy person to possibly answer it. There's plenty of information and guides if you just bothered to look.
Instructions unclear, ruined my pc using Coca Cola as a liquid.
I am using my own sem-
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Bro did everything but answer the question
He did but it’s always the same the answer is to go to his website😂😂😂😂 he just does it low key ,this man is a you know what rhymes with Sammer let’s see if my comment don’t get removed
He did answer. Just watch the video instead of leaving ignorant comments
He literally didnt.@Hitme2
@@Hitme2are you Stupid?
@@Hitme2If you think "dont get liquid cooling" was an answer you are sadly mistaken
bro answered everything but the question.
he said don't unless it high-end, in that case just use AIO's which come pre built
Facts. I love Zach but he's ass at answering some technical questions.
But you need to change the liquid in aio every two years, and then it would be useful to know what liquid you need
Probably because he doesn't know, budget builds and custom loops don't really cross paths.
@@szawelnieviAIOs are closed loop and are sealed at the factory, they don't need to be refilled and the most service you should need to do is blow out the dust accumulated in the rad.
If you have a high end cpu use aio or use air cooler that's it don't waste money
Custom loop is way bwtter aestetically, but pnly consider it for ultra high-end
If you use something like a 14900K do not use an Air cooler
Idk, something like the noctua dh-15 could probably handle it.@@drew2626
@@drew2626can I use air cooler on i912900k
Even 7800x3d doesn’t need liquid cooling, only 7950x3d and 14900k really do.
"Just dont do it" zach is gonna be reverse nike 😂😂😂
When it comes to water cooling, that's 100% the best advice by far. Water cooling is the PC equivalent of drag racing: it'll be expensive, it's guaranteed to destroy your machine, and you will never see any benefits outside of better benchmark scores. The one and only reason you do it is because you like seeing the number go up and you're willing to buy a lot of upgrades and kill several machines to that end.
Linus should watch this
They already talked about cooling
Even they recommend air cooling almost all the time
I miss those days where you tubers told us what we wanted to know nland not having to look in the comment sections
maybe do your research instead of relying on a creator to answer you? Especially when said question is easily found by searching on the internet
@@dotand0 waste comment
dude i was so sad for a second to have bought a liquid cooler but then he just shows THE EXACT CPU I HAVE
Custom loops are for high end hardware, or if you enjoy the process of making the loop. A CHEAP loop is $250 minimum, and on low to mid hardware, there is no performance benefit (since you are more power limited than temp limited).
If you want to watercool, not just an AIO, its not terribly difficult, but there are things you need to research for compatibility and reduce corrosion/growth in the loop.
I recommend always using a distilled water coolant, with either biocide, or anti-freeze mix depending on your hardware. Anti-freeze mix would be for mixed metal loops, and will slow corrosion (in general you should try to avoid mixed metals in the loop as much as possible).
Before building the loop, you want to wash everything out, especially radiators, since flux residue will be inside of them. First wash with tap/vinegar mix, then distilled once it is clean coming out of the rad.
Dont use colored/opaque coolant mixes. No matter how good they claim to be, they ALWAYS have issues. With a good distilled coolant mix, your loop can run as long as an AIO can without needing maintenance, although most should get torn down and cleaned each time that a part is changed.
But, recommendations like this (just dont do it) is why watercooling is becoming more boutique and expensive, since mainstream users are being scared away from it when its really not as difficult as its made out to be. In the early days, it was much harder to source parts, and you almost needed to shoehorn things together to get a loop going. Now its almost plug and play for more simple loops.
I love my AIO. Its been working great for about 5 years now. I live in the American southwest and in my state we get in the 90s to 100s i of degrees fahrenheit. In my state houses are mainly cooled using an evaporate cooler. So an AIO is much more efficient than using an air cooler from what i have experienced.
The best RUclips guy on water cooling is Jayz2cents
Yeah an AIO is about as far as needed for most anyway. A custom loop looks cool but I've seen linus fail enough with them.
the point of custom loop is not to just cool the LEAST power consuming part in the build ... if one goes full custom then the GPU is in the loop and THAT has real performance benefits from watercooling unlike CPUs that can be aircooled just fine ...
and yes having AiO for the sub 100w CPU but furnace of a aircooler on the 400W GPU is also nonsensical ... when putting watercooling into a system do GPU first THEN CPU ...
@@AsghaadYour point is nonsensical
@@Asghaadim speechless, is that suppose to be a hot take?
@@kebab_hill o really? 3 tiny 90mm fans going 2000 RPM barely cooling the GPU vs 2 at most 1200 RPM Noctua 140mm fans on NH-D15
guess which one produces more noise ...
putting AiO on the CPU is nonsense when the aircooler in the same price category is already quieter and has the same cooling performance ... while your GPU fans are screaming at full speed barely holding it below 80c ...
if you are going to watercool, then watercool the GPU first THEN if you have spare budget add in the CPU into the loop - watercooling CPU without GPU is pointless waste of money and time
@@Asghaad Or you can just grab a quality partner model and stop staring at the fps counter as if those 2 extra frames ever mattered.
First time pc builder her and I went custom loop and it turned out awesome. I will custom loop every pc I build from here on out
I’m tempted to do the motorcycle car radiator zip tied to the exterior and a pcie bracket pump
Bro asked for what kind of liquid you need 💀.
Ive built 5 PCs 1 for me and 4 for my friends/family. I want to water cool my pc some day and its more for the experience and look than its actual use. Also use distilled water with some tiny amount of a bacteria killing liquid (i have to look for Jayztwocents video to remind me which fluid he uses to kill bacteria in his loop)
So you’ve built 5 PCs not 4
@@drew2626 thank you for the correction
This is exactly how I went with my i7. With the default air cooler I couldn't even finish running a stress test, when the CPU ramped up to 100% the test would shut down in seconds because the temp would skyrocket past it's threshold. Threw in a Corsair AIO and it'll barely squeak past 70 degrees now even during stress testing. It's easy to install, zero hassle, and does exactly what it's supposed to do.
Really enjoyed the part where he answered the question
Crazy how he didn’t even answer the question 💀
Exactly
He’s a budget-midrange builder so I doubt he knows, question would be best googled or asked on jayztwocents who does this a lot.
He did though, just in kind of a backhanded way. Basically if the person needs to ask this question: don't do it. If they do need to do it: then they don't need to ask the question (or they need to take it to someone else who doesn't need to ask the question).
@@Serin9XHe did not. He gave an ass answer
@@Serin9X Exactly its called water cooling, its not rocket science. Anyone doing water cooling should not need to ask that.
He still didn't answer the question tho
he said no.
@@shadowknight_2505 did he say what liquid tho
Just use industrial grade tubing connectors. Some are tested to 3,000/5000/12000 PSIG. They also have flex connectors. One of the more popular are Swagelock.
Man you've saved my ass for making bad purchase so many times! Thanks Zach!
Best GPU I3 12th gen 😊😊😊❤❤❤
Ryzen 9 5900X is the best
Keep talking loosers
-I9 14900KF
@@pc_sovereign You spelled loser wrong. And if you want the best gaming PC available right now, you get the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Though it may not be a bad idea to wait until the end of the year when the Ryzen 9000 series CPUs with 3D v cache may be available.
@@pc_sovereign Yeah, have fun with the crashes.
What air cooler would you recommend for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D?
Whichever it is you are interested in, just look up the GN review for it.
I have thermalright phantom spirit and it works great, never seen it go beyond 70 C or so in actual gameplay. Stress test hit around 83 C.
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 is one of the best air coolers on the market, and only costs ~$35.
I have a thermal cool triple 120 cpu cooler it ran fine for a little wait. But when the pump stopped working I pulled it apart and found the had corrosion in it. I cleaned it out and refilled it with new cooled for a diesel truck. It has been running for years at this point and I even get cooler temps after the change of the coolent
Distilled water with a biocide. Use all Corsair parts except their tubing. Grab Corsair fittings, CPU block, pump/res, and rads. Grab EK tubing and GPU block. Easy. Only thing to check there is your GPU block metals match your CPU and the tubing size matches the fitting
What kind of liquid tho? 🤔
if you don't want any colour to it just distilled water will do just fine (not the drinking one tho)
Distilled water for price/performance.
For aesthetics just search PC Liquid Coolant and pick whatever color you like.
Radiator Coolant 😂
Distilled or RODI water doesn’t conduct electricity
All that to not answer the guy's question
Perfectly valid response if the guy is asking such a simple question he most likely has no idea how to do a custom liquid cooling build it's like a guy trying to make a basketball team and asking where is the 3pt range
@@klipklapklop3359 you got to start somewhere my guy you're not just gonna have the knowledge to do something for the first time without asking or looking it up and him asking what to use is a valid question
If he's asking, he shouldn't be doing it.
If guy can't even do an internet search...
@@noneyabizz8337 so all the videos asking for the best cpu gpu combo shouldnt be asking too cuz they could have just googled yeah? Bro just asked what's the best liquid to use same way people ask what's the beast gpu to use with a 14900k
For watercooling, u should take a min of 1,200$ and be willed to light em up!
Straight up,
Lab water, or a coolant, maybe like one of Alphacool.
But let the color be on the palett, not in the coolant.
Makes life easyer.
you go back and ask the same shop where you bought the radiator, bump, and reservoir, etc 👍
Way too early
I highly recommend glycol / water mix. Glycol carries heat better than water alone.
Thing is though, you gotta start somewhere! As long as this isn’t a first build then you gotta start by asking the simple questions to get ur understanding of everything from the ground up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I like to keep my components under 60 degrees, so I’m making a full custom loop, 2 360mm 47mm radiators, Corsair af120’s water block on cpu and gpu, the full kit.
For those asking, use mineral water to prevent friction with the tubes
Liquid cooling is a general term for two different types: custom liquid cooling and AIO liquid cooling.
Note: there is air cooling which if you get the right air cooler for your CPU will work just as well if not better than some AIO’s
Thanks for the advice tech daddy
I am planning to do a new build with 13900 or 14900. I planned to use an AIO, though I do love how custom loops look. Some of the aio get up to $2-300.00+ I'm mechanically inclined, so I am sure I could do a custom loop...though most of what I've read says it's not generally beneficial enough to justify the extra expenses
Bro responded to every question on the planet except the one on the screen 😂😂
If you need liquid cooling but don't want to do tons of research. There is something called the Corsair custom cooling configurator.
My man completely forgot about the not so long ago AMD days. I was rocking an fx8370 and no air cooler could touch that thing. I upgraded in 2019 to a 3700x and was stoked that I could use the dingus air cooler on it. It may have helped it was half the tdp of the fx series but damn was it glorious.
Bro straight up called him "dumbass" in a nice way
I still use Air cooler(Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5) for my i7-14700K build and its average temp is 40-50°C (30-35° C ambient temp). During stress test it goes 100°C, but these chips are made to go hot.
the i7 is perfectly air coolable with a well ventilated setup and a decent cooler. maybe overclocking would put it over but that's not necessary even for high end gaming.
i fell asleep last night watching this and have had it on repeat for like 18 hours because I had to rush out in the morning lol
I use my car coolant works alrighty when you use a airpump to power it. That thing is cold and cool can't beat it
I would do Freon cooling for the hottest running CPU’s and make sure that the hoses are temperature and pressure rated using a pump and radiator with variable speed fans on the radiator
For inexperienced people aio are perfectly fine if you really want the water cooling for your cpu. But liquid cooling is great but can take time and is pretty expensive for a custom build. You plan it carefully and build it good you have a nice system that will perform well. Just be prepared for the amount of time you'll need to put into it and always make shure of your measurements.
I love my AIO liquid cooler :)
Allows me to push my 5900x to lile 4.5ghz
For people who often need to replace hardware and don't want to customize the power cables at all, hard tube water cooling makes no sense to me because it is almost just for aesthetic, and the impact on temperature is not a big of a deal. Once you need to perform hardware maintenance (clean the dust or swap a GPU etc.), the process of draining and re-filling it's just painful.
Also, the hardest part is the maintenance of a water cooling system. So for anybody out there wondering if they should to smth like this, don't, trust me.
I love my air coolers. Mine is gigantic compared to what it needs to cool but it makes it boost higher than advertised which makes me happy in a way. Imagine cooling a 5600x with a 1.5kg copper worth of cooling lmao
Main advantage with custom loop is that you can use direct die cpu blocks for more performance
I like the part where he answers the question
My aio cooler was corroded after 6 months of use. I refilled it 80/20 blue antifreeze and destilated water and it works amazing since, but getting all the air out is a bit tricky.
"If you don't know the thing that you're asking me to teach you then don't even bother learning"
I agree with him if you have to ask this much of a basic question you really do not need to be trying to do a liquid loop
If I were to do water cooling, I would use -20°C vodka. You get good drink and good pc temps
Ultra high end air cooling is actually better (but much less space efficient) than water cooling. liquid/water cooling is just more visually appealing unless you like the look of massive heat sinks.
For Ryzen 5000+ users with old stock coolers like a Wraith Spire or Prism, if your CPU gets too hot you can look into the PBO2 Curve Optimizer. Most motherboards should have an option in BIOS, but if yours doesn't there is also a third-party utility that allows you to tune it. Set a negative offset starting at -5, run a few Cinebench tests for stability, then change by -5 and repeat until you reach instability, then go back to the last good setting and start incrementing by -1, at a max of -30. As a result, my 5700X3D runs cooler than my 3600 did on a Wraith Prism, and honestly with those adjustments I think a Wraith Stealth could handle it, albeit with an aggressive fan curve.
For the people who got triggered - u should watch the video, its the very basic level question ( he mentioned it ) and if the user doesn't know the basics then the chances are he will ruin his setup ( also the liquid setups and loops are not cheap so advice on such things without mentioning the parts and everything is not a good idea - what if they make a rookie mistake and liquid leaks and mess up the setup - who do you think they are going to point fingers at) and then the blame game type of shit in short if u r at basic step just don't go pro with a jump. andddd this is not something which can be explained in 30 sec tik tok or reel or something lyk that.
The problem with AIOs is that after 2 to 4 years, most of the water will have evaporated, and you'll need to replace it.
You get liquid coolers to take the excess weight off the mobo and get better cooling.
The best option would be to make a custom water loop or a custom AIO; either of them with filling and draining ports. I don't understand why these ports aren't standard on all AIOs over $100 but whatever.
ducted cooling is the way to go, no more air just floating around in the case.
I went with the Arctic LF2 360 (LF3 wasn’t out yet) and it’s been cooling my i9 10920x really well
I don't know what fluid to use on my first time with a PC so I may or may not have put in motor oil yeah a bad idea all I'll say is 2016 was a crazy year
I have a custom hardline 11900k and 3080ti on 2x 360 rads with a 360 reservoir.
It's fun to build but ugh I don't want to change anything or clean it. Such a pain to do anything later. And HEAVY!
Sometimes AIOs have tubing that isn't long enough or may not work with a certain case. Just depends on your circumstances.
I'm a big air cooling guy cause if you buy a decent to high end air cooler the only thing that can break is the fan and that's easily replaceable unlike an aio pump and aios lose thermal efficiency of the liquid as it evaporates over time
I actually watercooled my 12900k for a year and switched back to an aio like 3 months ago to be honest i loved water cooling but i was always flipping gpus off fb marketplace and everytime i did i had to drain my pc and i added a sas card and a thunderbolt card and both times i had to drain my loop but since i was always upgrading or adding or swapping stuff watercooling actually became kind of annoying but watercooling the pc isnt hard its just finding parts that fit your case and satisfy your taste but if you are willing to maintain your pc and you don’t upgrade or swap every few days or so I actually do recommend it but ill recommend checking every day for leaks in the case i used it checked the psu basement and sometimes stains appear its almost obvious but my pc only leaked twice one time because i was stupid and didnt close the drain valve the other time was it leaked slowly and it dripped to the basement but nothing ever died on me
For my machine, I went with a closed loop water cooler. I haven't had a single issue with it so far.
Liquid cooling looks cool. I use it on every build
Braker fluid is good👌🏻
Corsair liquid for $20 bucks, you get 1000ml and honestly I’d get clear liquid too so it’s easier to tell if it needs to be replaced before the year mark.
Also every 7 to 8 months you should disassemble all the liquid cool parts and then change water and a ton of headaches. So AIO for life for people who wants hassle free system
I loved the part where he said what liquid you need for liquid cooling
I watched a video where a guy made a vodka cooled PC. Life of Boris is true art.
Building custom loops is the most fun I have when I build never wanted to don't build mine and every buddy came calling to build it for them to 9 pc in now
Practice LC, on computers that you don't care about before trying on your primary PC!
Good advise, let me go to the toilet and start shitting some money
I followed your $750 pc build guide I used a Ryzen 5 5600x and my build was an aesthetic build it came out to be a little over a $1000
Pretty sure you can just drop AC refrigerant or some Prestone Antifreeze/Coolant in and it would work
bro said everything but not the answer for the guy 😂
Drawback of AIOs, 5 year lifetime, I had a Kraken x62 for si years before it started acting up. The fix, turn the whole pc 90° every time the CPU got overheated
your PC is actually gorgeous holy shit
thats probably a good advice ... almost all people should never touch the subject. The dangers of water damage ***ALWAYS*** exist and they are real. Stick to super-silent, super-efficient aircooling - the very best aircooling-systems border on the very same cooling-efficiency numbers as liquid cooling.
I have a 13700k and a air cooler that's $60 works perfectly fine with great temps
I was going to liquid cool my very first ever PC build thinking I was hot shit then realized after a ton of research that I'm nowhere near knowledgeable to do it, so I pulled out and went with AIO and fans.
Now though after a shit ton of research, I'm pretty certain I could make a solid liquid cooling loop, with soft tubing, since again I'm inexperienced with hardline tubing.
Eventually maybe in 3-5 Years I'm going to build a top of the line build with a full custom water loop with both a cpu and gpu waterblock, with hardline tubing, hopefully by then we get a serious increase to gpu and cpu performance, and also a bit of hopium for some nice price drops 😭.
I love the part where he answers the question
If you don't want the inevitable leak to destroy your entire PC, use either undiluted ethanol, ethylene glycol, or kerosene. If you use the latter, make sure your pipes are oil-resistant.
while I generally agree with his points there is just one problem
you gotta start somewhere so asking basic questions like that sounds valid to me
Or instead of asking the same question for the 999999th time he could just go look up some forum posts where it has already been answered.
@@oxaile4021 do you trust random guys from random forums more or well esatblished tech influencers? I mean not saying they should harass influencers with questions like that but I get them asking them instead of random people
@@krbraveofficial As if the said influncers didn’t have plenty of tutorial videos is the subject to watch.
I remember years ago (like 1080 era) when everyone and their mother were doing liquid cooling
Liquid cooling is honestly only needed if your PC is a fat and busty one where it's a beast at everything or you have overclocked pretty much everything. Other than that, proper air cooling, a monthly cleaning is all you need, plus, liquid cooling ain't cheap, definitely not when it leaks
Instructions unclear now using watered down maple syrup in my PC. Helps the water make extra contact with everything.
I've been using fan since forever and that's good enough
"There is a vast amount of research needed for liquid cooling so let me put out a pointless video that makes is harder to find what you need and actively discourages you from doing your own research." Real helpful.