Mercedes-Benz eCitaro FUEL CELL

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • This is the Mercedes-Benz eCitaro Fuel Cell.
    We are in Madrid to test drive the articulated version of the eCitaro with Fuel Cell. With power on two axles, the eCitaro makes an interesting bus or cities that can expect snow and hard driving conditions during winter time.
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    Dette er den nye Mercedes-Benz eCitaro Fuel Cell.
    Vi er i Madrid for å prøvekjøre den nye eCitaro Fuel Cell på 18 meter. Det er ikke bare drivstoffteknologien som er spennende her. Bussen har nemlig også drift på to aksler. Dette er en svært god løsning for Skandinaviske byer.
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Комментарии • 45

  • @Ilikebuses
    @Ilikebuses 3 месяца назад +4

    I think there should be dual/hybrid (standard and camera) mirrors on buses so if you want to use one or the other, you can.

  • @jokka83
    @jokka83 3 месяца назад +3

    Nice video, nice bus.
    I actually like those 1.5 seats. I can sit there alone and I have a wide seat. I think I only had one person that wanted to sit beside me on one of those, and that was a drunk girl if my memory serves me right.
    I do agree that those are probably a waste of space. they should atleast be reserved for people with disabilities or something.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      They are, at least in Norway, dedicated to people with disabilities. But, regular people have no respect, so they are sitting there anyway. Newer buses in Norway are never ordered with these seats anymore.

  • @VictorSalendu
    @VictorSalendu 3 месяца назад +3

    I’m just curious about how long it takes you to do such awesome editing.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      Spending about 1 week for each video. We have more than 250 videos now... Hahahaha!

  • @mikkorenvall428
    @mikkorenvall428 3 месяца назад +3

    Hydrogen is defenitely the future for the heavy trafic. Batteries are not smart in weight vice not loading vice. It has to be fuel Cells.

    • @CreRay
      @CreRay 3 месяца назад +2

      This bus is an electric bus plus a fuel cell. Batteries are the same! 395kWh installed capacity.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      The manufacturers are working full speed to find good solutions for the future :)

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      Correct. This bus runs on batteries even when H2 goes empty

    • @CreRay
      @CreRay 2 месяца назад

      @@bussmagasinet1 The batteries are not there as backup but to even out the load on the fuel cell. Fuel cells don't last long in transient operation which is why a big battery is essential in commercial vehicles.

  • @furkanpusal42
    @furkanpusal42 3 месяца назад +4

    Thanks for this beautiful video. ❤

  • @danielschlatermund3495
    @danielschlatermund3495 Месяц назад +1

    I don´t think fuel cell will be the future. Battery development has already come a long way, if you compare them with the "state of the art" just 5 years ago. The eCitaro started with a range of just 150km, now it sits at 275km and the next battery generation is coming as early as next year.
    One thing you didn´t take into consideration is that this bus still needs to be charged, or the range is drastically reduced. Of yourse you can fill the bus with hydrogen and leave with an almost empty battery, but you´ll have to return after just a few hours of driving.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  Месяц назад +1

      It will be exciting to the the range of the next Gen batteries!

  • @drdewott9154
    @drdewott9154 3 месяца назад +1

    Honestly I highly doubt the prospect for hydrogen vehicles, especially for buses. The mere economics of it are extremely bad. With an electric bus, you get little to no energy lost from the energy source to the wheels of the bus. It is extremely efficient. But with hydrogen vehicles you first need to use electrolysis to generate the hydrogen, then store it under extremely high pressure, and then pass it through a fuel cell, all of which causes energy losses. With a hydrogen vehicle, of the energy you put in, you usually only get 30% of that energy out of it.
    That means the fuel costs for hydrogen vehicles are at least 3 times higher than for a battery electric vehicle, and thats just not good. Especially not for public transit agencies, many of which are tight on money, that means it would cost again, at least 3 times as much to run a route with hydrogen buses as it would with battery ones. Plus higher maintenance costs due to the added complexities of the hydrogen tanks and the fuel cells themselves. No range benefits or fast refuelling can fix such poor operating economics. Not to mention the dedicated charging infrastructure which is also much more expensive than that for electric buses.
    Like Hydrogen buses might have had a shot at being viable if they were say 130% the price to operate of a battery bus, but not 300+%. And these inefficiencies come from the very factors of how hydrogen as a matter behaves and the generation of said fuels. I am extremely doubtful that technological advances or new vehicles could fix these problems, so I think its frankly the best to stick with purely electric buses for now and work on improving the batteries in them. Something which at least seems more viable.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for your thoughts. Let's see what the future brings.

  • @l.s.m.o3129
    @l.s.m.o3129 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice review overall.
    At 9:25 you can clearly hear that also the ZF AVE 130 suffers badly from high pitch noise coming from the E-motors. So it is not only the Cetrax in the VDL Citea NG. Hopelfully they will find a insulation solution for that.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      Noice is a big challenge in high speed.

  • @quill170
    @quill170 3 месяца назад +2

    10:15 Good thing this type of seats is optional, I never liked it either. As far as I know it's mainly a Germany thing to have more walking/standing space, or as some people say - for a parent and a small child.

  • @billmcdonald0256
    @billmcdonald0256 3 месяца назад +2

    Hi 👋 Thankyou for this Demo on the Fuel Cell Mercedes Bends 60'Bus .Having 4wheel drive setup is a good safety Feature in Snowy roads more controlled operating..The gate at the drivers area is a sad sign of our times 😢 keeping the Drivers safe from been assaulted Enjoyed the Video 📹 as always 👍

  • @saurabhkatarey6818
    @saurabhkatarey6818 2 месяца назад +1

    Fuel cell propulsion is the future until ultra dense battery breakthrough.

  • @chuayx7572
    @chuayx7572 3 месяца назад +2

    Think there's the tech that needs to go somewhere in the box at the rear.

    • @bussmagasinet1
      @bussmagasinet1  2 месяца назад

      This also they can remove it, or minimize it

  • @leckqma
    @leckqma 3 месяца назад +10

    I think this technology is more promising than electric vehicles

    • @tonygudath1510
      @tonygudath1510 3 месяца назад +3

      This is an electric vehicle

    • @quill170
      @quill170 3 месяца назад +3

      @@tonygudath1510 powered by hydrogen though

    • @tonygudath1510
      @tonygudath1510 3 месяца назад +2

      @@quill170 still an electric vehicle

    • @leckqma
      @leckqma 3 месяца назад +2

      @@tonygudath1510 no, a hydrogen-electric hybrid bus

    • @tonygudath1510
      @tonygudath1510 3 месяца назад +3

      @@leckqma still an electric vehicle…the only difference is where the energy comes from…both electric vehicles

  • @Bus-just-select-MAN
    @Bus-just-select-MAN Месяц назад

    I hope the Mercedes benz EQ 'blue eyes Head-light' 'Three-crosses Stars river' 'DNA spiral tail-light' be used on e-citaro ,That's designs that stress bloodline.

  • @crabbymilton390
    @crabbymilton390 3 месяца назад +1

    Very interesting and informative. This idea shows promise but it too will have to prove itself to earn people’s confidence.

  • @axeljonsson151
    @axeljonsson151 2 месяца назад +1

    4x6, not 4x4😊

  • @wietzebraem
    @wietzebraem 3 месяца назад +1

    hei du har rett, den boksen bak på den Mercedes Benz Citaro E må fjernes, flere seter og de forferdelige setene kan også endres til vanlige seter og nevnte speil, gjerne klassiske speil