Hey there! I'm one of the QA folks from Beyond Skyrim Cyrodiil. Thank you for your review, I truly appreciate it. I haven't finished the full video yet so I will only comment on what I've watched so far. We'll have some more of those non linear dungeons in the full Cyrodiil release but hopefully they'll feel much more intuitive than what you saw in Bruma, since the confusing layouts were a pretty common feedback that we got from players. We actually even reworked one of the Bruma dungeons, Toadstool Hollow, in one of our updates because it was even worse than Serpent's Trail. I also had no idea about the overly high skill checks in the Fort Pale Pass quest. Bruma stuff was worked on well before myself and I believe any of our current QA members even joined the team, but I'll make it a point to pass this along to the overall dev team and see what can be done. I will say that skill checks are always a weird balancing act because they rely heavily on player progression and with a mod like ours that means some players will either try getting there as soon as possible or will be going there as end game content in their modlist. Regardless I'll see if we can't come up with something more reasonable. As for where I've stopped now in the video, I will say that the whole saint worship thing weirded me out as well when I first played the mod but as I explored the lore more I came to realize that the writers decision was ultimately well grounded in TES lore. It turns out that in TES there's little difference between dulia (reverence) and latria (worship). Nibenay is described as having thousands of cults where villages will often times worship saints like Morihaus far more than the pantheon of the divines, even if they nominally recognize them as being more important, i.e being Gods, for example. Likewise in Morrowind, there is a communion of saints, which much like their imperial counterparts are seen as models of virtue but are also worshipped (despite being recognized as lesser than the Tribunal/Reclamations), and even have shrines and shrine blessings that can be received by the player character in TES 3.
I was being a bit hyperbolic during the Martin segment. It's not downright offensive, it just sticks out in a weird way that doesn't mesh with any of the other world building elements in the town. If it was meant to be there for comic relief they should have just gone balls to the wall and turned all the priests into Sean Bean obsessed Tumblr fan girls. That would have been funny, all be it not exactly lore friendly. Anyway, I'm glad this video has gotten back to the team so quickly. I still think what you guys are doing is a true work of passion and wish you all the best of luck on future projects.
@@crendl Why would it be meant as comic relief? It is like worshipping Saint Alessia, something the Imperials would definitely do, and now that Talos is banned, worshipping the man who turned into a dragon avatar and saved the realm seems pretty realistic as a worship choice in his place. Chim is a thing too, so there is also a precedent for obtaining godhood, or something close to it.
21:36 that's the point. Martin is supposed to be a way for the priests to worship Talos without worshipping him, like a loophole in the agreement between the Empire and the Aldmeri dominion
The problem is that Saints and ancestors worshipping is mostly an elfic thing and only the human influenced by the elvish culture practiced it (like the Nibanese with the cult of the ancestor Moth)
that's really not true people worship Talos even though he was a man and technically an ancestor. Also Martian literally became an avatar of Akatosh I think that warrants some individuals worshiping him. Also your kinda disregarding the entire Alessian cult that worshiped her as a saint and ruled the provence for a while What I'm basically saying is that you shouldn't be that surprised that people started worshiping Martian after witnessing him basically become a god for a short while
@@polo5760 No people worships talos because he became a god not because he is an ancestor The only true veneration of ancestors (not respect but worships) is the cult of the ancestral moth About the alresian cult: do you know that this cult is monotheistic and against everything that they deem to be elven and we're never against imposing theirs religion by force That's totally the ideology and religion of the septim empire or the current mede empire. No it's not the cult of marukh was the sole veneration of the one associated with akatodh because akatosh being the lord of time is the lord of everything because time flow linearly fir them.
@@polo5760 Sorry half on my com got deleted so this is the second half. I don't know if most people that saw the dragon knew that it was Martin and he became an Avatar of Akatosh. But we see in Morrowind multiples avatar of the devines appearing in mortal form, they are not considered as mortal becoming devine but as devine appearing as mortals. Also the empire is known to be pretty lenient in religion, they don't even care about the cult of the daedra because since the Leovic's legalisation of daedric worships and we don't see this legalisation being removed (the vigilants of stendarr don't seem to be an imperial institution in Skyrim so they probably aren't). Not only that but even the cult of Talos became a nordic thing only recently because in oblivion in Bruma the priest complains that the nordic population doesn't care about Talos and in Morrowind the nords have their own pantheons. Which means that the empire doesn't care that much about defending "one true orthodox faith" and by that virtue I don't think they care that much about considering Martin as a saint or an avatar of Akatosh or as a god. So I can accept that some influenced by the cult of the ancestral Moth or some elven cults of the ancestors to worship Martin but I find it less probable for the population of Bruma which are influenced by nords and Colovians culture to worships Martin in such a short period of time. Why not Reman? Pelinal? Morihaus? Why in knights of the nights that develops the virtues and the religion of the 9 devines nobody mentions the worships of saints? Why in Oblivion nobody worships the statue of Saint Alessia in the imperial city?
Saints do get recognized like divines in some areas. Phynaster, Nerevar, and Leki (for high elves, dark elves, and redguards respectively) are all revered and worshipped beings despite not being gods, and that's just some examples. It also reminds me of the Thief series and the Hammerites which did have churches dedicated to Saints. Thief being a major influence on TES. I did think the Martin church stuff was a little much, but I'm just not sure what to do about it. I mean the church can't be dedicated to Talos, shouldn't be dedicated to another god as that'd be redundant, and is way too prominent to be left abandoned. It was either gonna be Martin or the Champion. The Synod and Whispers being...underwhelming, is probably because more is/was planned with the two. This was probably thought as important as a recommendation quest in Oblivion. Funny thing about the Renod quest, it's just a more involved version of a Vanilla quest. Lurbuk in Morthal is also a terrible bard and apparently many, many people contracted the Dark Brotherhood to kill him. Even his dad is happy if he dies. Technically if you spare Erandur in the Vaermina quest you get him as a follower, and unlike most he actually has quite a bit to say in your travels. So in a way the reward is unique either way. The downside is he's kind of annoying lol. The only thing about the cutters I remember is that they make up half the bandit population. They attack you on the road often and kill random npcs (spawned to be killed by the cutters), which I guess is like Dawnguard's vampires only less annoying.
Saints in the Elder Scrolls do have a larger influence than in christianity, there is Saint Alessia who was a saint but was also worshipped as a prophet by the Alessian order, Tiber Septim was worshipped as a saint before his apotheosis and in Morrowind you can find plenty of shrines for saints and even their gods ended up becoming saints. I haven't played Beyond Skyrim, So I don't know how fanservice-y they get, but it does make sense they would have to repurpose the Chapel of Talos after the war.
The problem is that different cultures treat the worship of saints differently. The worships of ancestors and saint are practiced differently depending of the race. The dunmers venerate all their ancestors, with some being saint and seen as "more important", the altmer only worships the "best ancestors" not all of them, the nords have respects for their ancestors and heroes but no worship for them. The alessian order isn't a good example of imperials venerating saint mostly because this cult have a really bad reputation. Marukh and the alessian order is a strictly monotheistic cult devoting to only "the one" and is highly anti-elves. The only thing resembling an ancestral worship is the cult of the ancestor Moth which is a Nebanese cult found in region influenced by elvish culture The fact that in the 4E a Colovian region like Bruma mostly influenced by nords cultures could incorporate an elvish element.
I quite like the deep dive you've done here, I know a lot of people seemed to be almost worried to criticize the mod when it did things poorly. I enjoyed Bruma, but it was good to see some of the negatives have some light shined upon them. I've certainly come across a new channel to enjoy and I really encourage you to keep this content up. I know there is some other content for games I'd love to see your opinions on.
One moment. Surilaron wasn't resurrected by the Synod. Most likely it's BS Cyrodiil major antagonist's work, so he serves as a teaser for the greater story.
I got the impression it was the synod but it's it's my failing that I never looked it up to see if that was the case. Reanimating ancient liches is probably not something the synod would do
The best part of this mod, for me, is the music. Its my favourite music from any mod, definitely feels on par with the quality of the base game's music.
man this is some good stuff, you should take a look at Morrowind’s Tamriel Rebuilt (and the various other mods like the Skyrim Home of the Nords and Province Cyrodiil) if you haven’t already. Specifically Ebonheart’s Thieves Guild quest line TR has the most interesting quests i’ve played in a Bethesda game, not to mention the city itself is staggeringly dense with content.
I played through Tamriel Rebuilt before and spent probably a dozen hours just wandering around the mainland before I realised there were actually questlines integrated into the factions. Still had fun just going from place to place doing random side quests. I'll have to go back and try the guilds at at some point
The prison break thing did not happen to me at all. I just left it and came back later. So clearly it was a bug, also considering what the dialogue options actually say. And I have done it multiple times.
Some good comments and critiques, but also a few that don't make sense (to me), or where you missed stuff. Example of the former: you dislike linear dungeons (as do we all), but then complain you get lost in a non-linear one?? Getting lost is a very RPG experience. Example of the latter: the Adius questline is not supposed to end there, a future release of Beyond Skyrim will pick up on it. Or at least I always assumed so, that's why you can't intervene in his abduction.
For the quest about Adius I think it is possible to give a satisfying ending to his arc while still being able to expand on his story in the future. What if the final release of Cyrodiil doesn't happen? If we take for example Tribunal it's logical to consider tribunal as a continuation of the story of the Nerevarine and the DLC expands on the relationship between the Nerevarine and the tribunal, and give an ending to the tribunal. At the same time that doesn't mean that the MQ of morrowind is "cut" in half with an unsatisfying ending. Another example is the first Chapter of Naruto offers a satisfying ending. You follow the story of a young boy who failed the exam, was manipulated but his teacher refused to let him down, save him then motivates him and he was able to save him back, it's a satisfying ending while still offering the possibility of further expansion.
i cannot actively consume this particular content as i keep telling myself i will play through the mod myself, but i'm a great enjoyer of your other long-form videos, so i will play this while i sleep for the sweet stats edit: i watched it anyway
Honestly, a better way that they could’ve handled the Chapel of Sean Bean with very little additional effort would’ve been if they mentioned off hand in an extra dialogue that the building was renamed after him shortly after Talos worship was banned as a not so subtle slight against the Aldmeri Dominion and the White Gold Concordant. They kind of hinted at it with some of the dialogue already present, but if they just had it explicitly stated either in dialogue or in some historical book on Bruma that probably would’ve been better as opposed to the Sean Bean worship.
As a proud Beansian and representative of the The Church of Beansus Christ of Latter Day Saint Martins, I don't appreciate your lack of regard for our storied spiritual traditions.
Oddly, the Bruma mod has one of the most poignant moments that I've experienced with games. Right after the serpent smuggler cave, I came out in the hills, and like you, went back towards the gate. I didn't check out the fort, but wanted to see the view from the top. As soon as I got there, Nox Atra started playing, and seeing the imperial tower, with these run down fortifications below me, I got this overwhelming sense of faded power, and the empire in ruins, barely climbing above the landscape, while the winds kicked up snow and distant fires burned on the trail near the Inn. Was super magical and emotional, which put a lot of the rest of the mod in very sharp and unflattering contrast. Not all of it, but.
You are fundamentally wrong about what this mod does, this is not a full release, this is just a taste of what's to come. For example; when you criticize Synod vs CoW, you don't realise that maybe this conflict is saved for when the actual Cyrodiil mod releases. Also i highly disagree of your opinion of Martin Septim stuff as well, we see this all the time in Old Tamriel, there is a reason Cyrodiil is also named as "land with 1000 gods"
I think it's perfectly valid to critique this mod as a "DLC sized" release given it's advertised as such on the mod page. Not to mention also being one of the most installed expansion mods for the game. As for content that might be implemented in the future, I can only comment on what's released currently. If the Synod and Whispers are to appear in future releases I'd like to see their dynamic expanded upon. It was still one of the most intriguing parts in Bruma for me from a worldbuilding angle. Regarding the cult of Sean Bean, I think it could have been neat idea, it just feels like it plays far to heavily on forced nostalgia and doesn't really add anything to the characterisation of the city.
@@crendl Let's agree to disagree then because I don't agree to either of your opinions and am thoroughly pleased with what this mod did with Martin Septim.
Most of the way through and Ngl its confusing to understand what it is you want out of the mod. You criticize it pretty harshly for being too "nostalgic" but then when they do something unusual or new you also hate that and accuse it of being dumb or silly and make fun of the voice actors for any new lore they do try to explain :/ Also nostalgia bait only matters in terms of a corporation trying to advertise to you. There is absolutely nothing wrong or "not artistic" with a mod designed around revisiting the land we experienced in Oblivion having nostalgia in it and most people would be VERY upset if those nostalgic revists werent available! Youre absolutely in the minority there i have literally never heard anyone else be anything but excited to see things like Frostcrag Spire again
I wish I had dedicated more time to the things I like about this mod rather than my complaints, but at the time of making I was just rushing to get another lengthy video out. Honestly not a very fair review, I'd like to revit it some day. Maybe once the second map is out. 😔
@@crendl lol I figure so, I was sitting there like "how can someone who played Battlespire and Redguard dislike this so much? It's more classic Bethesda than current Bethesda is!"
Wish you would approach things like this with the level of respect the media requires rather than defaulting to crass cynicism and admonishment. Was very disappointed by that in the Redguard video and doubly so for this one. Only offering this criticism because the subject material you make videos on are in fact very interesting and deserving of constructive analysis
Please do a video on elder scrolls Blades… I’d love to see you apply the treatment you did to battlespire and Redguard to blades. Which I think is the worst elder scrolls game ever made.
I liked your video. Could you make adult mod reviews. No one does them any longer. I want to get back into Skyrim but play it in an adult way. If you can help me that would be awesome.
You know, in the title you put "review", not "video essay" as it should, this way i would have skipped it completely, but alas, take your dislike for making me watch this garbage, what else can we do uh?
Hey there! I'm one of the QA folks from Beyond Skyrim Cyrodiil. Thank you for your review, I truly appreciate it. I haven't finished the full video yet so I will only comment on what I've watched so far.
We'll have some more of those non linear dungeons in the full Cyrodiil release but hopefully they'll feel much more intuitive than what you saw in Bruma, since the confusing layouts were a pretty common feedback that we got from players. We actually even reworked one of the Bruma dungeons, Toadstool Hollow, in one of our updates because it was even worse than Serpent's Trail. I also had no idea about the overly high skill checks in the Fort Pale Pass quest. Bruma stuff was worked on well before myself and I believe any of our current QA members even joined the team, but I'll make it a point to pass this along to the overall dev team and see what can be done. I will say that skill checks are always a weird balancing act because they rely heavily on player progression and with a mod like ours that means some players will either try getting there as soon as possible or will be going there as end game content in their modlist. Regardless I'll see if we can't come up with something more reasonable.
As for where I've stopped now in the video, I will say that the whole saint worship thing weirded me out as well when I first played the mod but as I explored the lore more I came to realize that the writers decision was ultimately well grounded in TES lore. It turns out that in TES there's little difference between dulia (reverence) and latria (worship). Nibenay is described as having thousands of cults where villages will often times worship saints like Morihaus far more than the pantheon of the divines, even if they nominally recognize them as being more important, i.e being Gods, for example. Likewise in Morrowind, there is a communion of saints, which much like their imperial counterparts are seen as models of virtue but are also worshipped (despite being recognized as lesser than the Tribunal/Reclamations), and even have shrines and shrine blessings that can be received by the player character in TES 3.
I was being a bit hyperbolic during the Martin segment. It's not downright offensive, it just sticks out in a weird way that doesn't mesh with any of the other world building elements in the town.
If it was meant to be there for comic relief they should have just gone balls to the wall and turned all the priests into Sean Bean obsessed Tumblr fan girls. That would have been funny, all be it not exactly lore friendly.
Anyway, I'm glad this video has gotten back to the team so quickly. I still think what you guys are doing is a true work of passion and wish you all the best of luck on future projects.
@@crendl Why would it be meant as comic relief? It is like worshipping Saint Alessia, something the Imperials would definitely do, and now that Talos is banned, worshipping the man who turned into a dragon avatar and saved the realm seems pretty realistic as a worship choice in his place. Chim is a thing too, so there is also a precedent for obtaining godhood, or something close to it.
Oh no I have watched all your content now. I hope everything is going okay! This has been an enjoyable week of consuming your effort.
21:36 that's the point. Martin is supposed to be a way for the priests to worship Talos without worshipping him, like a loophole in the agreement between the Empire and the Aldmeri dominion
The problem is that Saints and ancestors worshipping is mostly an elfic thing and only the human influenced by the elvish culture practiced it (like the Nibanese with the cult of the ancestor Moth)
that's really not true people worship Talos even though he was a man and technically an ancestor. Also Martian literally became an avatar of Akatosh I think that warrants some individuals worshiping him.
Also your kinda disregarding the entire Alessian cult that worshiped her as a saint and ruled the provence for a while
What I'm basically saying is that you shouldn't be that surprised that people started worshiping Martian after witnessing him basically become a god for a short while
@@polo5760 No people worships talos because he became a god not because he is an ancestor
The only true veneration of ancestors (not respect but worships) is the cult of the ancestral moth
About the alresian cult: do you know that this cult is monotheistic and against everything that they deem to be elven and we're never against imposing theirs religion by force
That's totally the ideology and religion of the septim empire or the current mede empire. No it's not the cult of marukh was the sole veneration of the one associated with akatodh because akatosh being the lord of time is the lord of everything because time flow linearly fir them.
@@polo5760 Sorry half on my com got deleted so this is the second half.
I don't know if most people that saw the dragon knew that it was Martin and he became an Avatar of Akatosh.
But we see in Morrowind multiples avatar of the devines appearing in mortal form, they are not considered as mortal becoming devine but as devine appearing as mortals.
Also the empire is known to be pretty lenient in religion, they don't even care about the cult of the daedra because since the Leovic's legalisation of daedric worships and we don't see this legalisation being removed (the vigilants of stendarr don't seem to be an imperial institution in Skyrim so they probably aren't). Not only that but even the cult of Talos became a nordic thing only recently because in oblivion in Bruma the priest complains that the nordic population doesn't care about Talos and in Morrowind the nords have their own pantheons.
Which means that the empire doesn't care that much about defending "one true orthodox faith" and by that virtue I don't think they care that much about considering Martin as a saint or an avatar of Akatosh or as a god.
So I can accept that some influenced by the cult of the ancestral Moth or some elven cults of the ancestors to worship Martin but I find it less probable for the population of Bruma which are influenced by nords and Colovians culture to worships Martin in such a short period of time.
Why not Reman? Pelinal? Morihaus? Why in knights of the nights that develops the virtues and the religion of the 9 devines nobody mentions the worships of saints? Why in Oblivion nobody worships the statue of Saint Alessia in the imperial city?
Saints do get recognized like divines in some areas. Phynaster, Nerevar, and Leki (for high elves, dark elves, and redguards respectively) are all revered and worshipped beings despite not being gods, and that's just some examples. It also reminds me of the Thief series and the Hammerites which did have churches dedicated to Saints. Thief being a major influence on TES. I did think the Martin church stuff was a little much, but I'm just not sure what to do about it. I mean the church can't be dedicated to Talos, shouldn't be dedicated to another god as that'd be redundant, and is way too prominent to be left abandoned. It was either gonna be Martin or the Champion.
The Synod and Whispers being...underwhelming, is probably because more is/was planned with the two. This was probably thought as important as a recommendation quest in Oblivion.
Funny thing about the Renod quest, it's just a more involved version of a Vanilla quest. Lurbuk in Morthal is also a terrible bard and apparently many, many people contracted the Dark Brotherhood to kill him. Even his dad is happy if he dies.
Technically if you spare Erandur in the Vaermina quest you get him as a follower, and unlike most he actually has quite a bit to say in your travels. So in a way the reward is unique either way. The downside is he's kind of annoying lol.
The only thing about the cutters I remember is that they make up half the bandit population. They attack you on the road often and kill random npcs (spawned to be killed by the cutters), which I guess is like Dawnguard's vampires only less annoying.
Saints in the Elder Scrolls do have a larger influence than in christianity, there is Saint Alessia who was a saint but was also worshipped as a prophet by the Alessian order, Tiber Septim was worshipped as a saint before his apotheosis and in Morrowind you can find plenty of shrines for saints and even their gods ended up becoming saints. I haven't played Beyond Skyrim, So I don't know how fanservice-y they get, but it does make sense they would have to repurpose the Chapel of Talos after the war.
The problem is that different cultures treat the worship of saints differently.
The worships of ancestors and saint are practiced differently depending of the race. The dunmers venerate all their ancestors, with some being saint and seen as "more important", the altmer only worships the "best ancestors" not all of them, the nords have respects for their ancestors and heroes but no worship for them.
The alessian order isn't a good example of imperials venerating saint mostly because this cult have a really bad reputation. Marukh and the alessian order is a strictly monotheistic cult devoting to only "the one" and is highly anti-elves. The only thing resembling an ancestral worship is the cult of the ancestor Moth which is a Nebanese cult found in region influenced by elvish culture
The fact that in the 4E a Colovian region like Bruma mostly influenced by nords cultures could incorporate an elvish element.
The Alessian Order was also dismantled and cast down as tyrannical heretics who listened to a deluded monkey.
I quite like the deep dive you've done here, I know a lot of people seemed to be almost worried to criticize the mod when it did things poorly. I enjoyed Bruma, but it was good to see some of the negatives have some light shined upon them. I've certainly come across a new channel to enjoy and I really encourage you to keep this content up. I know there is some other content for games I'd love to see your opinions on.
One moment. Surilaron wasn't resurrected by the Synod. Most likely it's BS Cyrodiil major antagonist's work, so he serves as a teaser for the greater story.
I got the impression it was the synod but it's it's my failing that I never looked it up to see if that was the case.
Reanimating ancient liches is probably not something the synod would do
Haven't seen anyone else do a decent deep-dive into beyond skyrim, excited to watch
The best part of this mod, for me, is the music. Its my favourite music from any mod, definitely feels on par with the quality of the base game's music.
I would like to see you play Enderal, and see if it passes your nitpick check.
man this is some good stuff, you should take a look at Morrowind’s Tamriel Rebuilt (and the various other mods like the Skyrim Home of the Nords and Province Cyrodiil) if you haven’t already. Specifically Ebonheart’s Thieves Guild quest line TR has the most interesting quests i’ve played in a Bethesda game, not to mention the city itself is staggeringly dense with content.
I played through Tamriel Rebuilt before and spent probably a dozen hours just wandering around the mainland before I realised there were actually questlines integrated into the factions. Still had fun just going from place to place doing random side quests. I'll have to go back and try the guilds at at some point
@@crendl I commented this already but I have to recommend TR’s Tribunal Temple. Fantastic stuff.
I like your editing and work you put into your video. keep it up
The prison break thing did not happen to me at all. I just left it and came back later. So clearly it was a bug, also considering what the dialogue options actually say. And I have done it multiple times.
I would love to see more mod reviews. Even if they're more passion than technical or skill, I really can't be mad at most of them.
Some good comments and critiques, but also a few that don't make sense (to me), or where you missed stuff.
Example of the former: you dislike linear dungeons (as do we all), but then complain you get lost in a non-linear one?? Getting lost is a very RPG experience.
Example of the latter: the Adius questline is not supposed to end there, a future release of Beyond Skyrim will pick up on it. Or at least I always assumed so, that's why you can't intervene in his abduction.
For the quest about Adius I think it is possible to give a satisfying ending to his arc while still being able to expand on his story in the future.
What if the final release of Cyrodiil doesn't happen? If we take for example Tribunal it's logical to consider tribunal as a continuation of the story of the Nerevarine and the DLC expands on the relationship between the Nerevarine and the tribunal, and give an ending to the tribunal. At the same time that doesn't mean that the MQ of morrowind is "cut" in half with an unsatisfying ending.
Another example is the first Chapter of Naruto offers a satisfying ending. You follow the story of a young boy who failed the exam, was manipulated but his teacher refused to let him down, save him then motivates him and he was able to save him back, it's a satisfying ending while still offering the possibility of further expansion.
i cannot actively consume this particular content as i keep telling myself i will play through the mod myself, but i'm a great enjoyer of your other long-form videos, so i will play this while i sleep for the sweet stats
edit: i watched it anyway
here for the first time
got surpriced nicely by the editing fairy
Honestly, a better way that they could’ve handled the Chapel of Sean Bean with very little additional effort would’ve been if they mentioned off hand in an extra dialogue that the building was renamed after him shortly after Talos worship was banned as a not so subtle slight against the Aldmeri Dominion and the White Gold Concordant.
They kind of hinted at it with some of the dialogue already present, but if they just had it explicitly stated either in dialogue or in some historical book on Bruma that probably would’ve been better as opposed to the Sean Bean worship.
I hope that if anything, the audio quality is slowly becoming more and more passable with each upload
Saint Alessia isn't a divine but people revered and worshipped her all the same.
Skyrim 5 the elder scrolls. ohh, that one got me laughing
@@teddywalters1103 🤡
6 years late lmao, you dude, are a madlad. Respect.
How curious hmmm yes i am pondering
As a proud Beansian and representative of the The Church of Beansus Christ of Latter Day Saint Martins, I don't appreciate your lack of regard for our storied spiritual traditions.
Na MEER Ah.
I hope he fixes it
Is it still compatible with the current version of Skyrim AE? all other videos are 6 years old.
Should be. Usually it's only script extender DLLs the get messed up between updates
@@crendl thanks for the reply
You probably figured it out by now, but for those reading in the future, yes it is.
Oddly, the Bruma mod has one of the most poignant moments that I've experienced with games. Right after the serpent smuggler cave, I came out in the hills, and like you, went back towards the gate. I didn't check out the fort, but wanted to see the view from the top. As soon as I got there, Nox Atra started playing, and seeing the imperial tower, with these run down fortifications below me, I got this overwhelming sense of faded power, and the empire in ruins, barely climbing above the landscape, while the winds kicked up snow and distant fires burned on the trail near the Inn.
Was super magical and emotional, which put a lot of the rest of the mod in very sharp and unflattering contrast. Not all of it, but.
Good video!
Man, no love for Dar’taqto…
You are fundamentally wrong about what this mod does, this is not a full release, this is just a taste of what's to come. For example; when you criticize Synod vs CoW, you don't realise that maybe this conflict is saved for when the actual Cyrodiil mod releases. Also i highly disagree of your opinion of Martin Septim stuff as well, we see this all the time in Old Tamriel, there is a reason Cyrodiil is also named as "land with 1000 gods"
I think it's perfectly valid to critique this mod as a "DLC sized" release given it's advertised as such on the mod page. Not to mention also being one of the most installed expansion mods for the game.
As for content that might be implemented in the future, I can only comment on what's released currently. If the Synod and Whispers are to appear in future releases I'd like to see their dynamic expanded upon. It was still one of the most intriguing parts in Bruma for me from a worldbuilding angle.
Regarding the cult of Sean Bean, I think it could have been neat idea, it just feels like it plays far to heavily on forced nostalgia and doesn't really add anything to the characterisation of the city.
@@crendl Let's agree to disagree then because I don't agree to either of your opinions and am thoroughly pleased with what this mod did with Martin Septim.
@@Ocean_Gaming agreed 🤝
Your a cry baby like make a RUclips channel do it yourself wait don't cause ur quality will be shiet L take take your opinion elsewhere@@Ocean_Gaming
@@Ocean_Gaming you seem like a martin fanboy, or a Skyrim fan :P
Nice !!
Most of the way through and Ngl its confusing to understand what it is you want out of the mod. You criticize it pretty harshly for being too "nostalgic" but then when they do something unusual or new you also hate that and accuse it of being dumb or silly and make fun of the voice actors for any new lore they do try to explain :/
Also nostalgia bait only matters in terms of a corporation trying to advertise to you. There is absolutely nothing wrong or "not artistic" with a mod designed around revisiting the land we experienced in Oblivion having nostalgia in it and most people would be VERY upset if those nostalgic revists werent available! Youre absolutely in the minority there i have literally never heard anyone else be anything but excited to see things like Frostcrag Spire again
I wish I had dedicated more time to the things I like about this mod rather than my complaints, but at the time of making I was just rushing to get another lengthy video out. Honestly not a very fair review, I'd like to revit it some day. Maybe once the second map is out. 😔
@@crendl lol I figure so, I was sitting there like "how can someone who played Battlespire and Redguard dislike this so much? It's more classic Bethesda than current Bethesda is!"
Wish you would approach things like this with the level of respect the media requires rather than defaulting to crass cynicism and admonishment. Was very disappointed by that in the Redguard video and doubly so for this one. Only offering this criticism because the subject material you make videos on are in fact very interesting and deserving of constructive analysis
It's unfinished so all your complaints are valid. Looking forward to more reviews in the future! Fun to listen to.
Please do a video on elder scrolls
Blades… I’d love to see you apply the treatment you did to battlespire and Redguard to blades. Which I think is the worst elder scrolls game ever made.
Make a new video videoman
Perchance
@@crendlthought u where sucked into you’re toilet thankgod
I liked your video. Could you make adult mod reviews. No one does them any longer. I want to get back into Skyrim but play it in an adult way. If you can help me that would be awesome.
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You know, in the title you put "review", not "video essay" as it should, this way i would have skipped it completely, but alas, take your dislike for making me watch this garbage, what else can we do uh?
And a happy new year to you 😌