First fish with the 2021 BELLEZZA. Strange issues with Complex XR drag

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @ifishcatfish
    @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +7

    I found the reason for the nasty drag, but don't want to spoil it here. Next video.

    • @mishahagihiruko1256
      @mishahagihiruko1256 3 года назад

      Is it because design flaw or broken parts?

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      @@mishahagihiruko1256 bad design decision

    • @mishahagihiruko1256
      @mishahagihiruko1256 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish what the hell is wrong with the shimano current designer?
      They used to make great stuff back before 2010.

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      @@mishahagihiruko1256 not a big deal. Something stupid to put a marketing label that doesnt belong in this reel.

    • @mishahagihiruko1256
      @mishahagihiruko1256 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish I don't like inconsistent drag clicks, it just kill the fun while fighting the fish especially during finnese fishing

  • @quanloikid1
    @quanloikid1 3 года назад

    Thanks for the piscine feces view.....it reminds me of the Old Guy from Scranton. I'd use a little(very little) Cal's drag grease and stronger line. I'm sure you'll find out the answer

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      i did find the answer. Very interesting. Will make a short vid just for that.

  • @TheFishingNomad
    @TheFishingNomad 3 года назад +3

    The sound of that drag sounds like one of those $20 Shakeapeare combos from Walmart.

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      It does. Not sure who in Shimano approved this.

  • @my9281
    @my9281 3 года назад +1

    Hi, what Bellezza model did you fish with? There are so many bellezzas out there…

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      There is a new 2021 Belezza Prototype. Then i got the softest one that is tube. I will never again buy a solid tip, no matter what.
      21GB LZPS-582SUL-T

    • @my9281
      @my9281 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish thank you! I looked at Bellezza prototype range and the only xul available is solid. What is wrong with solid tips? You said solid tips no more...

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +2

      nothing is wrong with them objectively. I just hate when the blank is stiff but the tip is overbending and you play the fish only with the tip. Also when you jig, or when you hop the weight of dropshot, the tip is flexing slightly and killing the hop and the twitch. I dont know if this is the only reason though.. i think there are more reasons that I FEEL when i fish these rods, but i haven't realized all reasons yet. But I am never buying another solid tip again. It feels like two different blanks, glued together, and u can tell exactly where they are glued. If the Carabus was solid tip i would have kept it. And this rod now, even though so stiff, has such amazing blank that feels like one piece, and i will probably keep it despite being stiffer than what i like.
      But at the end of the day.. its mainly subjective. I am sure after my review of this rod many people will go and buy the XUL

    • @my9281
      @my9281 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish I know what you mean, many solids do feel like two sticks glued together, however most top quality Japanese rods with solid tips still make sense and I am not convinced either way. I actually never owned Graphiteleader before and you got me interested as always so I already ordered the the xul with solid tip, hope it will be a keeper

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +2

      @@my9281 you guys didn't even wait for the review! You are the third person who already ordered the rod. And i get nothing from this. Btw, the other 2 ordered the XUL also. One of them was a bass angler all his life and just couldn't help it after watching my videos and ordered a couple of rods, and now he is addicted.
      I want to know your honest opinion on the transition from solid tip to blank. It is hard to get honest opinions from people as they tend to defend what they have, but i think you are like me and can separate emotion.

  • @charlesleander7785
    @charlesleander7785 3 года назад

    Which you preferred, st. Croix, belezza, or abu eradicator?

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +1

      Eradicator for twitching trout magnet, St Croix for 2garm jigheads with 2" keitechs, and Belezza for dropshot

    • @charlesleander7785
      @charlesleander7785 3 года назад

      Thank you bro, i own some JDM rods also, since i work here in Japan. And I’m really curious in Abu eradicator. I saw also video from Mr. Randy from troutmagnet that he recommended Abu eradicator, despite that he own some Highend JDM like olympic finezza, lunakia evergreen. Can you give me some pros and cons of abu eradicator?
      Own JDM rod
      Gekkabijin 5ft solid tip ajing rod
      Yamaga blanks jighead special 7ft
      Majorcraft x-ride mebaru 7ft 6 inches

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      Search my channel for 'Eradicator' If you are new to my channel u just need to watch the review, there is no way around it

    • @troutwhisperer3886
      @troutwhisperer3886 2 года назад

      How do you like the xride? was thinking of getting the solid tip version of that in 7’3 model

  • @eugenejohnson8635
    @eugenejohnson8635 3 года назад

    Which rod is better the st croix legend elite panfish rod are the graphite leader bellezza what store in Japan you got that rod graphite leader bellezza

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      The Belezza is more sensitive for sure, during bites and during fighting fish. But the LEP is a better all around rod, good for everything, big guides, 1 piece also parabolic blanks. I am never selling my LEP. This one I still dont know if I will keep. Depends what is more important for you. If you have many rods, and you look for extreme sensitivity, you will prefer the Belezza. If you have no high end ultralights and just look a very light rod that can cast a mile and has a great blank - LEP for sure

    • @eugenejohnson8635
      @eugenejohnson8635 3 года назад

      Where did you get that rod Bellezza

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +1

      Subscriber bought it for me from Japan. The store didn't ship to US. Then the subscriber shipped it to me. Obviously not cheap, as I had to pay shipping from store to his house in Japan, then shipping from there to my house, instead of shipping direct to my house. But that's the way it is with these rods.. It's hard to find a store than ships here..

  • @adrianrauta2970
    @adrianrauta2970 3 года назад +2

    7:34 - "the fish looked like they came back from the middle east" :))))

  • @AlinJapan
    @AlinJapan 3 года назад

    Too bad about the distracting sound of the drag. I also did not expect the rod to be quite so stiff, though the bending curve does look good.

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      I love the rod, and when i say it i mean it. Also i am already getting offers to sell the rod when i am done, so no risk. But so far i think i keep it.

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      Drag is now fixed and smooth as butter

  • @aidanlau795
    @aidanlau795 3 года назад

    I had a certate that had bad drag but that was because I got a bit of water in the drag when I was rinsing it. But I just dried the drag and then it was good again

  • @dexterrobinson4065
    @dexterrobinson4065 3 года назад

    Is the Complex XR superior to the Vanford of same size? Are the drag washers on the XR carbon or felt?

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      It is a little better than Vanford. Making video about the drag issue now

  • @jimscott4552
    @jimscott4552 3 года назад

    Out of a reel like that, I would expect a way smoother drag system. You would think the factory could properly assemble the drag stack. Nice video, but it was painful to watch and hear the drag "work ".

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      funny decisions Shimano makes, even in 2021

  • @Hogwylderr
    @Hogwylderr 3 года назад

    I came close to getting the Super Bellezza but decided to go with a different Japanese maker. Great rods though. I'm waiting for your review of the Complex. I'm wanting the same one. Great video bud...

    • @binkosmith4807
      @binkosmith4807 3 года назад +1

      yea i picked rodiocraft over olympic

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      its not like i do research to pick these rods. I get what I can. Its a whole operation to get one shipped here.

    • @Hogwylderr
      @Hogwylderr 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish I gotcha man. We all do this the way we do it, however that is and it really doesn't matter anyway. Me personally, I do heavy research into it & I only have 3 Japanese made rods. I've also never had a problem with shipping either.

    • @Hogwylderr
      @Hogwylderr 3 года назад +1

      @@binkosmith4807 Right on. Great brand & rods! I went with Yamaga Blanks.

  • @SirPraiseSun
    @SirPraiseSun 3 года назад +1

    l0l the catfish heard u n pooped, idk what sub specie that is also watch out for the spines up top and on the sides some of them have painful venom

  • @tomstarcevich1147
    @tomstarcevich1147 3 года назад +1

    😀🐟👍Perch fishing soon get ready!

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      I am. Are u?

    • @tomstarcevich1147
      @tomstarcevich1147 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish just waiting for my new ram truck to come in I got a quad cab tradesman 4x4 with lots of extras 👍

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад

      @@tomstarcevich1147 hopefully u finally take me fishing

    • @tomstarcevich1147
      @tomstarcevich1147 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish I will buddy I promise

  • @MrAntinsk8
    @MrAntinsk8 3 года назад +1

    I think you are wrong with the name of the rod)) Why bellereza? BELLEZA

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +2

      OMG, you are right! I dont know how i got this in my head. I have to go and fix the title now.. Thanks for pointing out

    • @fuq584
      @fuq584 3 года назад

      Go to 0:48 its Belerezza not Bellezza (Belleza would mean beauty in spanish "beh-yeh-sah") but the correct name is on screen. He is saying it correctly "Belerezza" : )

    • @MrAntinsk8
      @MrAntinsk8 3 года назад

      @@fuq584 the right name is on the rod and it is Bellezza

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +1

      @@fuq584 I dont know where I got the belerezza name.. this is very strange to me why i read it like this. But the correct name is Belezza, and this is the product link: olympic-co-ltd.jp/fishing/products/21-bellezza-prototype/

  • @EddieJerahian
    @EddieJerahian Год назад

    9:53 ... I shit my pants

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  Год назад +1

      walk real slow to the rest room and hope nobody will see u

  • @olegnaumenko768
    @olegnaumenko768 2 года назад

    Grate spinning

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  2 года назад

      what is 'grate'? Did u mean great?

  • @bobjohnson7207
    @bobjohnson7207 3 года назад

    Nice rod

  • @SirPraiseSun
    @SirPraiseSun 3 года назад +1

    oh dam that sounds just as bad as nails on a chalk board lol defective maybe missed qc

  • @fdsaffff
    @fdsaffff 2 года назад

    he heard ya n pissed on u

  • @natebonebusta
    @natebonebusta 3 года назад

    That drag is atrocious. I much prefer the metallic "ping" of a Shimano sienna over that reel.

  • @exconcurly
    @exconcurly 3 года назад

    The rod so sensitive you can't tell the difference between a fish and a snag, kinda worthless

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +1

      it is the most sensitive rod I have touched with my hands for sure. But it is strange why the fish didn't run when i hook them.. just sit..

  • @joestasiak544
    @joestasiak544 3 года назад

    Victor don't like the new reel drag sucks....Rod is ok.....

  • @cozab5487
    @cozab5487 3 года назад

    Welcome to Shimano's Quality control🤦‍♂️, Complex XR is supposed to have the same ultra smooth and consistent drag as the Twinpower FD, but that doesn't mean they will all come like they're supposed too! (even though its usually just an assembly issue there)... The worst is the Vanford, buying that damn reel is like russian roulette, out of 5 Vanfords 1 will have this drag issue 1 will be raspy and borderline rough 1 will be extremely lose/horrible tolerances and 1 will have serious hickups in the oscillation, then finally the last one of the 5 will be like its supposed to be haha, the fishing industry needs to get their stuff together!...And in my experience, Daiwa's quality control is barely any better🤦‍♂️.

    • @ifishcatfish
      @ifishcatfish  3 года назад +1

      i have said the same thing in the comments - its like a little lottery what you are going to get when u buy online. The complex XR doesn't have the grinding feel in the gears though. Any idea why? Seems like from the new reels the Vanford is the only one with the grinding gears. The Ultegra doesn't have it either.

    • @cozab5487
      @cozab5487 3 года назад

      @@ifishcatfish Quality control, Complex XR and Ultegra have the same body/frame as the Vanford so there shouldn't be a difference in vibration due to anything there, and the internals are all essentially the same between these 3 too, so all I can think of is them slacking off with the Vanford possibly due to the high demand?
      No real idea unfortunately, but I work in a tackle shop and trust me I hear you. I think I'm gonna go with huge demand, pandemic slowing their ability to meet that demand, thus something has somehow caused the Vanfords quality control to be simply put absolutely horrible for a reel of that price 🤷

  • @joeylabo6831
    @joeylabo6831 3 года назад +1

    sticky drag