Hey Brad. Nice review. Just wanted to say Lenovo also has a Lenovo tab extreme. About the same size of the Samsung Galaxy tab 8 ultra. That maybe good for drawing and illustration.
We've been in AES stylus hell for far too long when it comes to Windows devices. We've all lost out with Samsung and Wacom being the only good EMR options.
@@dnyalexander Usually when a device has wobbly lines it's because of the pen digitizer array on the screen has big ol gaps that loose track of the pen, hence the waves. :( These manufacturers just need to increase the pen digitizer array density like microsoft did with their newer surface devices.
The dual monitor mode is 100% what I want for work, as my portable work setup already includes an external kb/m and an extra monitor. Idk about using it for art, but spreadsheets looking tasty on that.
TIP: I received mine on Monday, and by great luck ordered the perfect mouse for it: “Microsoft Surface Mobile Wireless Mouse, Ice Blue”. Light-weight, curved, slightly magnetic, and very close to matching in color. Super happy with both!
This would rock for in-person D&D! Flip it over and you have a screen to show stuff to your players. Hand-write notes if you prefer that on your side of the device.
I came here just to say that your courses are SO FUN! I am following "Learn to Drawn in 60 Days" (Day 16) and having so much fun. I've bought many other courses over time, but every time I feel like having fun while learning, I go to some of your courses. They are just the best, I always have a great time with them. Very well done! Love how you teach. 👍🏼
I understand why phones remove the headphone jack as bluetooth headphones while more expensive does what 99% of people need them to do. On a productivity laptop, that's an entirely different story. You need accurate sound without latency for long periods of time. Sure wireless headphones will get there, but they're not there yet, so it's still too early to remove the headphone jack in my opinion.
I don’t think it’s the quality of Bluetooth headphones that’s the real issue. Not everyone wants to charge everything all the time. For some people I get it, it’s not an issue. The more crap to charge the better, but I had my airpods run out of battery at the worst times and not paying attention sometimes I’m on a bus and the case has no juice either. And it’s the same with smart watches. I’m back to regular watches now, but when I go back to a “smart” watch, I usually just use my basic Huawei. Lasts almost 2 weeks on a charge. Not sure why we can’t allow people to not need everything battery operated have that option.
I'd be fine with Bluetooth headphones if they could be used while charging. My Sonys can but only via 3.5mm jack, give me audio over USB-C so I can leave them plugged into my laptop. I think the Fairbuds XL might do this but it's an uncommon feature.
One benefit of using this kind of pen is that this device now has a beautiful, clear screen. All the “Wacom” touch + pen oled screens made by Samsung for laptops currently have an annoyingly visible grid, masking all the beauty of the oled. I was so happy to see this one is close to perfect. Not everything is perfect though: The screens have not been calibrated and are somewhat over-saturated. A review found theirs to be very similar so it could be that a few settings and an averaged calibration file can do wonders. They are also glossy and easily get smutched I find.
I've been eyeing this notebook a LOT lately, was super thankful to find your review because you just saved me a ton of money! I'd use it for art direction and animation and thought a pen with Wacom tech meant Cintiq-quality displays. NNnnnnope, this would be unusable to me, glad the one I had in my cart went out of stock! The form factor is incredible though, I really really really really want to believe in it. Like you said, maybe in a few gens. Again, super duper appreciate the line art demo and honest review for artists! I'll stick to my XP Pen Pro and iPad Mini for portable work when I'm not around my anchored-at-home Cintiqs...
Lenovo USED to have Wacom EMR pen screens. 2015 was their last model, the Thinkpad Yoga 12 2nd gen. Screen calibration was kinda garbage, but it did the job and it ran Windows 8 so there wasn’t any of that Windows Ink nonsense deal with. After that, they went with Wacom’s AES pens that were battery powered. Those, I’ve never tried, but essentially, if you have a surface pen and it works on the screen, it’s an MPP pen display. I’ve been looking at this lenovo laptop for a while because I really love the concept, but nobody mentioned what kind of pen it had. Also, everytime Lenovo makes something this different from the standard laptop fare, it ends up being kinda short-lived with terrible support once a major update makes it buggy. Happened with the first Lenovo Yogabook that ran Android.
It’s odd that the pen has a lot of wobble. I’ve got a Lenovo Flex 5 and it’s using Wacom AES 2 technology, hardly any wobble at all. My pen works with MPP protocol too, but thankfully the laptop doesn’t support it. This looks like the same pen, but might indeed use the ‘wrong’ protocol, that’s a shame. I was considering this, but now I’m glad I went with the single screen one instead.
If this laptop uses the same AES 2.0 sensor technology behind the screen as the Lenovo Yoga C940 15.6" laptop, then: I have found that the Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus stylus WITH the special nib (the one with the blue ring) smooths out about 90% of those wobbles AND adds tilt and rotation sensing, which the original stylus does not. In other words, the sensor is pretty good, but they shipped it with a crappy stylus. The sensor is AES 2.0 compatible, but the original stylus is not. Go figure. Anyway, I'm sure you have a Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus lying around. Give it a try and see if that doesn't fix the problem.
@@SimonBauer7 I had researched the Lenovo Precision Pen 2 and 3. Unfortunately, Lenovo does not list which stylus protocol those products use. Also, even the 3 only does tilt, whereas the Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus does tilt and rotation, for the same price. Plus, it has a pocket clip! 😊
If you get direct from Lenovo...make sure you get your mouse from the carton! I almost missed it and was about to throw the box away...They should have included a 'what's in the box' note!
Hey Brad, the xiaomi pad 6 came out and your reviews are almost picture perfect for us artists! Please review it if possiblee!!! Keep the great content up and always a fan!
I really really like that the first thing you do is show us diagonal lines slowly drawn on the screen. Seeing the amount of stairs it created told me everything that I need to know about it. Ill stick with my iPad Pro for now.
I watched your previous video and was going to ask for a review of your sponsor product, but self edited that out. I really appreciate the video as far as being 'straight up.'
I understand product marketing is a 'thing' unto itself. But what happens to this stuff? In the gun world for example you always send it back after reviewing unless specified. Tech manufacturers know that 'giveaway marketing' is a cheap and effective way to market their products (you do the work marketing what they already made), so I can only imagine that you have a closet of stuff that would make amateur digital artists fall over. So I really want to know where did this dual screen thing go after the video? There is a level of consumerism that makes your channel feel uncomfortable at times and I really want to know where all this stuff goes. It is in the same vein that I don't like seeing food waste on RUclips either.
THANK YOU for reviewing the pencil and drawing capabilities, that's the only thing i was looking for in a review (because of the nature of the laptop). I hope they get better in the future for artists because this concept is REALLY interesting. Not needing to carry a separate wacom tablet and have a screen to feel like you're actually paining is important to me, but apparently the technology is not there yet... but i hope brands will notice this potential an MAYBE colaborate with one of the drawing tablets brand monsters out there ;3 xd
2:30 I am surprised you were surprised about that. If they specifically design that function you would think it works as it should no? I am not surprised at all that it works perfectly. If you compare it to other similar palm rejection....those are usually not designed around that. At least not on laptops.
Interesting. Lenovo did something similar years ago with a device that had a screen on one half and a Touchkeyboard/Wacom tablet on the other. The thing was terrible and would throttle so quick and hard, that it became borderline unusable.
Do you think they will have a new pen to upgrade to in 6 months to a year for this device? I see this becoming a very popular form function for laptops for remote workers and designers. Also could one buy another off brand pen for this and it be compatible as a second option? I've been waiting for the perfect all in one laptop as a designer and an architect. Sadly for architecture the graphics cards and possibly other specs in laptops haven't advanced enough yet but this form is the first ideal form I've seen for a designer like me who works in Canva a lot and Vector programs and who writes a lot of documents and needs multiple screens for multitasking and efficiency.
Love the idea of 2 OLED screens. The only thing keeping me from getting one is being a sketcher/painter I would need a pen as good (or nearly as good) as the Apple Pencil 2 or at least as good as the Surface Pen 2. The idea to have a photo to sketch from on the top and the sketch/paint program on the bottom screen. Also, like the large Surface Duo-like 2 screens rather than the fold idea of a continuous OLED Screen. So, once Lenovo comes out with a generation of this where the Pen is really Apple Pencil quality I would get serious to have it as an iPad/Surface Pro replacement. I understand Apple is working on a fold version of the iPad which may come out 3 or so years from now. It is the future. From the drawing demo in the video looks like maybe 2 generations away. I use Rebelle 7 as my main drawing paint program it Rebelle requires some extra graphics horsepower. I use the Surface Pro 8 (i7) with Rebelle and could use more power.
Gr8 vid as always and the device genuinely looks amazing minus the few minor hiccups (mainly the pen), but since U do (quite a few) reviews for tech; I was wondering if U have a spare room in Ur house, just to store them afterwards or do U send them back? Cause if U do keep them ‘all’, they have to take up so much space. 🤦♂️ I was just wondering about that. 🤷♂️ [I am “smooth 🧠’d”]
I got a Yoga with a pen years ago and the drawing capabilities were pretty good.... right up until they stopped updating the drivers (less than year). The pen turned into a thin mouse, no pressure sensitivity. They make nice enough laptops, but their pen driver support is abysmal and I'd not buy them for drawing stuff for that reason. Even though this is a cool idea (2 screens), I don't trust Lenovo to give the screen proper driver/software support in the long run.
Great review, Brad. I recently lent my laptop to a friend's sister, and she returned it two weeks later, not working. Using my IT skills I got it working again, except for the audio, and it's slower than I remember, and it smells funny. I'm pretty sure it got very wet somehow on its journey. So I'm looking for a new laptop. I think it's down to the MacBook Air 15 M2, the Yoga Book 9i, or the Dell XPS 15 (xn95300r34g001smauw) which is on sale right now. I'm in Australia, so we're about 6 months behind the US with technology, but we get great sunshine.
FYI: The Yoga Book does *not* use an MPP pen, it uses Wacom AES 2.0, which is vastly superior, but definitely falls short of Wacom's battery-less EMR tech that they reserve for their own products and that Samsung uses. The wobbly lines are more due to the pen than the digitizer. Lenovo included their crappiest pen with this very expensive device for some reason. If you buy a better one, you will have nearly zero wobble, even slightly better than a Surface Pro (which, for once, implements MPP correctly). As for non-Microsoft MPP devices, such as the HP Spectre x360 or some Dell XPS's I've used... Those are an absolute joke by comparison to even Lenovo's AES implementation. Source: I own this device and have a very, very large pen collection of every type XD For Lenovo AES owners: Try an HP Pro Pen G3, it is one of the better AES pens I've used and even supports both AES and MPP (but does NOT work well in MPP mode, then again, that's like trying to put lipstick on a pig).
Brad the Laptop is great, but being given crazy info by Lenovo is something that should be addressed. Care to comment? Ordered the 1TB on 6/16 with an estimated delivery of 6/23-6/28. A few days later, estimated delivery was 8/10. So, I called, and heard the same story about it being a "customized" product. I was assured they'd expedite, and that the date would be moved up and then not change again. It went to 8/02. Checked yesterday, and it was 9/06. So, I called and was assured that they'd expedite, and that the date would change again to something sooner. Now the date is 9/26. I wonder how many other people are experiencing the same runaround...
Eee, you got me at battery powered pen. Thanks for these videos/reviews! It looked cool and something I thought that I could consider as a possible digital mobile drawing device but, nope. Thanks!
Imissed listerning you comment on the fact that you put something hard, like the keyboard, on top of a screen and then put on pressure on that... is it going to scratch? Is it going to break? Personally that would frak me out all the time.
I have a different thought on it. I always thought that one device can have 2 OS. (I don't know a lot about tech so dont fight me.) What if one device can run either a Windows or an Android OS. You can change it everytime you restart.
@KiksuML That's something that you can do on a PC without much trouble, but it isn't always possible on an Android device. There are surprisingly some Android devices that you can install Windows on believe it or not, but they're mostly older devices. Tbh, it isn't that useful. You can run Android Apps in windows, but Windows apps are probably a better option
Maybe, It's so thin it would be hard to get an Intel chip in there because it needs cooling. But if Windows on arm gets better support... that would be pretty sweet!
They have a Galaxy Book 360 (Pro) so I cannot see Samsung having yet another Windows tablet/2-in-1. They did have various Windows tablets but they sunk without a trace. Even the Surface Pro sales have fallen and I suspect that consumer are not really interested in Windows Tablets anymore.
It's really neat, but I can see a little line wobble in almost everything you're drawing there. Really unfortunate. I do a lot of drawing on a Yoga 720 from a few years ago, and I don't think the wobble is as bad as this. 😕
Do you think this would be a good investment for writing books? You had mentioned you wrote scripts on it so I was curious about that aspect more so than art.
Has anyone found a compatible pen for the Yoga Book 9i? The specs says it uses the Lenovo Digital Pen (Gen 3) but I can't find anything that would act as a replacement if you lose the pen that comes with it.
Thanks very much for this review. This had seemed really intriguing, but I wasn't sure how the drawing experience would be. I appreciate your thoughts on this.
Thanks for the vid. Pity, this smooth laptop isn't really for artists >,> (not that I could afford it anyway :) ) But it's a kool one still. //Your reviews are the best//
What is with it with line wobble. Outside of Wacom and a few pen display manufactures it seems no one can eliminate it. I LOVE my Surface, but can't use it for drawing. This looks like a great device, other than for art. Well, one day.
Hi, I was hoping you could help. Do you think this would be good for using Adobe photoshop, InDesign and illustrator or would Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio be better?
get a pair of creative outlier air golds.....they will last an entire day on a charge ...I leave my house wearing them and when im minutes away from home they give a few low battery notifications before dying out. there is absolutely no reason to be annoying yourself with headphone cords....lol
Great lap top. I order one in July and Lenovo promises to deliver it - mid July than mid Aug than mid Sept that is if they have manufactured a part. So dodgy - weird to wrk wth them and customer disrespectful business . Yes I ordered directly from them. Shame
Please glue on a pair of joycons and show us some giant DS emulation 🙏
hahaha, OK, I can do that!
Exactly my first question too lol, it practically could be a giant DS.
Hey Brad. Nice review. Just wanted to say Lenovo also has a Lenovo tab extreme. About the same size of the Samsung Galaxy tab 8 ultra. That maybe good for drawing and illustration.
@@thebradcolbow "hahaha, OK, I can do that!" And I want to see that. Just for the lols.
Thanks for the review, it's a shame Lenovo still hasn't improved their pen for artists. I'm now rooting for Samsung to poach this idea and do it right
We've been in AES stylus hell for far too long when it comes to Windows devices. We've all lost out with Samsung and Wacom being the only good EMR options.
Can't you just buy a better third party pen?
If only Microsoft would share their MPP 3.0 stylus tech with laptop manufacturers . . . That would end Samsung's monopoly on high end 2-in-1 laptops.
@@dnyalexandersadly nope, because the tech is a combination of screen and pen. So a better pen just won’t be compatible.
@@dnyalexander Usually when a device has wobbly lines it's because of the pen digitizer array on the screen has big ol gaps that loose track of the pen, hence the waves. :( These manufacturers just need to increase the pen digitizer array density like microsoft did with their newer surface devices.
The dual monitor mode is 100% what I want for work, as my portable work setup already includes an external kb/m and an extra monitor. Idk about using it for art, but spreadsheets looking tasty on that.
Looking tasty lol
Looks like it would be awesome for trading stocks.
TIP: I received mine on Monday, and by great luck ordered the perfect mouse for it: “Microsoft Surface Mobile Wireless Mouse, Ice Blue”. Light-weight, curved, slightly magnetic, and very close to matching in color. Super happy with both!
@@abcdef7660 60Hz for both
Not sure if I would trust someone saying it's good if they care about it matching colors lol
@@MeepMeep88 It got me a lot of likes, presumably also by people who were pleasantly surprised about the great match. ;)
@@ettepet9308 Not the match, it was your tip :)
@@MeepMeep88 as someone who values aesthetics a lot, I find this info very useful :))
This would rock for in-person D&D! Flip it over and you have a screen to show stuff to your players. Hand-write notes if you prefer that on your side of the device.
I came here just to say that your courses are SO FUN! I am following "Learn to Drawn in 60 Days" (Day 16) and having so much fun. I've bought many other courses over time, but every time I feel like having fun while learning, I go to some of your courses. They are just the best, I always have a great time with them. Very well done! Love how you teach. 👍🏼
I understand why phones remove the headphone jack as bluetooth headphones while more expensive does what 99% of people need them to do. On a productivity laptop, that's an entirely different story. You need accurate sound without latency for long periods of time. Sure wireless headphones will get there, but they're not there yet, so it's still too early to remove the headphone jack in my opinion.
I think it's already there. Been using Audio Technica wireless for production, with no noticeable latency whatsoever.
I use wireless earbuds and have never had a problem.
I don’t think it’s the quality of Bluetooth headphones that’s the real issue. Not everyone wants to charge everything all the time. For some people I get it, it’s not an issue. The more crap to charge the better, but I had my airpods run out of battery at the worst times and not paying attention sometimes I’m on a bus and the case has no juice either. And it’s the same with smart watches. I’m back to regular watches now, but when I go back to a “smart” watch, I usually just use my basic Huawei. Lasts almost 2 weeks on a charge. Not sure why we can’t allow people to not need everything battery operated have that option.
I'd be fine with Bluetooth headphones if they could be used while charging. My Sonys can but only via 3.5mm jack, give me audio over USB-C so I can leave them plugged into my laptop.
I think the Fairbuds XL might do this but it's an uncommon feature.
One benefit of using this kind of pen is that this device now has a beautiful, clear screen. All the “Wacom” touch + pen oled screens made by Samsung for laptops currently have an annoyingly visible grid, masking all the beauty of the oled. I was so happy to see this one is close to perfect.
Not everything is perfect though: The screens have not been calibrated and are somewhat over-saturated. A review found theirs to be very similar so it could be that a few settings and an averaged calibration file can do wonders. They are also glossy and easily get smutched I find.
Definitely not designed for Artist but seems great for students.
I've been eyeing this notebook a LOT lately, was super thankful to find your review because you just saved me a ton of money! I'd use it for art direction and animation and thought a pen with Wacom tech meant Cintiq-quality displays. NNnnnnope, this would be unusable to me, glad the one I had in my cart went out of stock! The form factor is incredible though, I really really really really want to believe in it. Like you said, maybe in a few gens.
Again, super duper appreciate the line art demo and honest review for artists! I'll stick to my XP Pen Pro and iPad Mini for portable work when I'm not around my anchored-at-home Cintiqs...
Lenovo USED to have Wacom EMR pen screens. 2015 was their last model, the Thinkpad Yoga 12 2nd gen. Screen calibration was kinda garbage, but it did the job and it ran Windows 8 so there wasn’t any of that Windows Ink nonsense deal with. After that, they went with Wacom’s AES pens that were battery powered. Those, I’ve never tried, but essentially, if you have a surface pen and it works on the screen, it’s an MPP pen display.
I’ve been looking at this lenovo laptop for a while because I really love the concept, but nobody mentioned what kind of pen it had. Also, everytime Lenovo makes something this different from the standard laptop fare, it ends up being kinda short-lived with terrible support once a major update makes it buggy. Happened with the first Lenovo Yogabook that ran Android.
Thank you. This helped me make a decision about the Yoga Book 9i. Headphone jacks are a must for me.
It’s odd that the pen has a lot of wobble. I’ve got a Lenovo Flex 5 and it’s using Wacom AES 2 technology, hardly any wobble at all. My pen works with MPP protocol too, but thankfully the laptop doesn’t support it. This looks like the same pen, but might indeed use the ‘wrong’ protocol, that’s a shame. I was considering this, but now I’m glad I went with the single screen one instead.
If this laptop uses the same AES 2.0 sensor technology behind the screen as the Lenovo Yoga C940 15.6" laptop, then: I have found that the Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus stylus WITH the special nib (the one with the blue ring) smooths out about 90% of those wobbles AND adds tilt and rotation sensing, which the original stylus does not. In other words, the sensor is pretty good, but they shipped it with a crappy stylus. The sensor is AES 2.0 compatible, but the original stylus is not. Go figure.
Anyway, I'm sure you have a Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus lying around. Give it a try and see if that doesn't fix the problem.
yup. the precision pen 2 is also very good and eliminates line wobble in aes.
@@SimonBauer7 I had researched the Lenovo Precision Pen 2 and 3. Unfortunately, Lenovo does not list which stylus protocol those products use. Also, even the 3 only does tilt, whereas the Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus does tilt and rotation, for the same price. Plus, it has a pocket clip! 😊
If you get direct from Lenovo...make sure you get your mouse from the carton! I almost missed it and was about to throw the box away...They should have included a 'what's in the box' note!
Hey Brad, the xiaomi pad 6 came out and your reviews are almost picture perfect for us artists! Please review it if possiblee!!! Keep the great content up and always a fan!
Agree. Your video is always on point especially with all the pen and stylus
That pen is not intended for drawing, but for productivity work on Word and Excel, and signing PDF documents.
Its nice to see the Surface Neo finally being released
I really really like that the first thing you do is show us diagonal lines slowly drawn on the screen. Seeing the amount of stairs it created told me everything that I need to know about it. Ill stick with my iPad Pro for now.
You would say that no matter the device. You are an Apple fanboy.
I watched your previous video and was going to ask for a review of your sponsor product, but self edited that out. I really appreciate the video as far as being 'straight up.'
I wanted this video to be out first but unfortunately it couldn't work out that way.
I understand product marketing is a 'thing' unto itself. But what happens to this stuff? In the gun world for example you always send it back after reviewing unless specified. Tech manufacturers know that 'giveaway marketing' is a cheap and effective way to market their products (you do the work marketing what they already made), so I can only imagine that you have a closet of stuff that would make amateur digital artists fall over.
So I really want to know where did this dual screen thing go after the video? There is a level of consumerism that makes your channel feel uncomfortable at times and I really want to know where all this stuff goes. It is in the same vein that I don't like seeing food waste on RUclips either.
THANK YOU for reviewing the pencil and drawing capabilities, that's the only thing i was looking for in a review (because of the nature of the laptop). I hope they get better in the future for artists because this concept is REALLY interesting. Not needing to carry a separate wacom tablet and have a screen to feel like you're actually paining is important to me, but apparently the technology is not there yet... but i hope brands will notice this potential an MAYBE colaborate with one of the drawing tablets brand monsters out there ;3 xd
2:30 I am surprised you were surprised about that. If they specifically design that function you would think it works as it should no? I am not surprised at all that it works perfectly.
If you compare it to other similar palm rejection....those are usually not designed around that. At least not on laptops.
Interesting. Lenovo did something similar years ago with a device that had a screen on one half and a Touchkeyboard/Wacom tablet on the other.
The thing was terrible and would throttle so quick and hard, that it became borderline unusable.
I really wanted to see this, glad you did it
Do you think they will have a new pen to upgrade to in 6 months to a year for this device? I see this becoming a very popular form function for laptops for remote workers and designers. Also could one buy another off brand pen for this and it be compatible as a second option? I've been waiting for the perfect all in one laptop as a designer and an architect. Sadly for architecture the graphics cards and possibly other specs in laptops haven't advanced enough yet but this form is the first ideal form I've seen for a designer like me who works in Canva a lot and Vector programs and who writes a lot of documents and needs multiple screens for multitasking and efficiency.
Love the idea of 2 OLED screens. The only thing keeping me from getting one is being a sketcher/painter I would need a pen as good (or nearly as good) as the Apple Pencil 2 or at least as good as the Surface Pen 2. The idea to have a photo to sketch from on the top and the sketch/paint program on the bottom screen. Also, like the large Surface Duo-like 2 screens rather than the fold idea of a continuous OLED Screen. So, once Lenovo comes out with a generation of this where the Pen is really Apple Pencil quality I would get serious to have it as an iPad/Surface Pro replacement. I understand Apple is working on a fold version of the iPad which may come out 3 or so years from now. It is the future. From the drawing demo in the video looks like maybe 2 generations away. I use Rebelle 7 as my main drawing paint program it Rebelle requires some extra graphics horsepower. I use the Surface Pro 8 (i7) with Rebelle and could use more power.
Great review. I'm not sure why I haven't seen your reviews before, but I've just subscribed. I feel a bit late, but at least I'm in the first million.
Thanks for sharing....justpicked one of these up and its awesome.
Gr8 vid as always and the device genuinely looks amazing minus the few minor hiccups (mainly the pen), but since U do (quite a few) reviews for tech; I was wondering if U have a spare room in Ur house, just to store them afterwards or do U send them back? Cause if U do keep them ‘all’, they have to take up so much space. 🤦♂️
I was just wondering about that. 🤷♂️
[I am “smooth 🧠’d”]
I got a Yoga with a pen years ago and the drawing capabilities were pretty good.... right up until they stopped updating the drivers (less than year). The pen turned into a thin mouse, no pressure sensitivity. They make nice enough laptops, but their pen driver support is abysmal and I'd not buy them for drawing stuff for that reason. Even though this is a cool idea (2 screens), I don't trust Lenovo to give the screen proper driver/software support in the long run.
I hope you'll have the oportunity to review the Asus duo aswell, and test it's drawing capabilities, that'll be awesome!
To me this form factor is not meant to be optimized for drawing. Its main appeal is enhanced productivity when mostly used as a desktop pc.
YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS BRAD! THANK YOUUUU
Great review, Brad. I recently lent my laptop to a friend's sister, and she returned it two weeks later, not working. Using my IT skills I got it working again, except for the audio, and it's slower than I remember, and it smells funny. I'm pretty sure it got very wet somehow on its journey. So I'm looking for a new laptop. I think it's down to the MacBook Air 15 M2, the Yoga Book 9i, or the Dell XPS 15 (xn95300r34g001smauw) which is on sale right now. I'm in Australia, so we're about 6 months behind the US with technology, but we get great sunshine.
No one interested in a touch screen laptop with pen support would be interested in a MacBook...
@@RK-um9tu Yes. One person. Me.
Can you try drawing on the bottom screen. Maybe they put better drawing support in the bottom screen
1:01 What did you mean when you said "palm recogjition" Palm rejection or recognition?
Palm rejection!. Sorry about that.
FYI: The Yoga Book does *not* use an MPP pen, it uses Wacom AES 2.0, which is vastly superior, but definitely falls short of Wacom's battery-less EMR tech that they reserve for their own products and that Samsung uses. The wobbly lines are more due to the pen than the digitizer. Lenovo included their crappiest pen with this very expensive device for some reason. If you buy a better one, you will have nearly zero wobble, even slightly better than a Surface Pro (which, for once, implements MPP correctly). As for non-Microsoft MPP devices, such as the HP Spectre x360 or some Dell XPS's I've used... Those are an absolute joke by comparison to even Lenovo's AES implementation.
Source: I own this device and have a very, very large pen collection of every type XD
For Lenovo AES owners: Try an HP Pro Pen G3, it is one of the better AES pens I've used and even supports both AES and MPP (but does NOT work well in MPP mode, then again, that's like trying to put lipstick on a pig).
Brad the Laptop is great, but being given crazy info by Lenovo is something that should be addressed. Care to comment?
Ordered the 1TB on 6/16 with an estimated delivery of 6/23-6/28. A few days later, estimated delivery was 8/10. So, I called, and heard the same story about it being a "customized" product. I was assured they'd expedite, and that the date would be moved up and then not change again. It went to 8/02. Checked yesterday, and it was 9/06. So, I called and was assured that they'd expedite, and that the date would change again to something sooner. Now the date is 9/26. I wonder how many other people are experiencing the same runaround...
What mouse did they send you? I like the design and would love to buy the same one!🙏 Thanks for the scintillating review
The only review I care about.
Eee, you got me at battery powered pen.
Thanks for these videos/reviews! It looked cool and something I thought that I could consider as a possible digital mobile drawing device but, nope.
Thanks!
I was going to say I'd rather get the Surface Studio but apparently it's twice the price of this thing 😏
Thanks for the informative review. I'm curious to hear what your thoughts on the Lenovo Extreme Tablet are? Seems they tried gunning at the Ipad Pro
This kinda reminds me of the surface neo.
Im curious if other pens work on it? Like the Spen or other
Yes please let me know if you find a good one!
Lenovo. I need a 16 inch 4k version of this laptop! Make it happen now!
Imissed listerning you comment on the fact that you put something hard, like the keyboard, on top of a screen and then put on pressure on that... is it going to scratch? Is it going to break? Personally that would frak me out all the time.
Do you think that Samsung should make a windows version of the Galaxy S8 ultra?
Dude I would be all over that. I don't even care if it had an ARM processor. I'd buy it in a hesrtbeat
I have a different thought on it. I always thought that one device can have 2 OS.
(I don't know a lot about tech so dont fight me.)
What if one device can run either a Windows or an Android OS. You can change it everytime you restart.
@KiksuML That's something that you can do on a PC without much trouble, but it isn't always possible on an Android device. There are surprisingly some Android devices that you can install Windows on believe it or not, but they're mostly older devices.
Tbh, it isn't that useful. You can run Android Apps in windows, but Windows apps are probably a better option
Maybe, It's so thin it would be hard to get an Intel chip in there because it needs cooling. But if Windows on arm gets better support... that would be pretty sweet!
They have a Galaxy Book 360 (Pro) so I cannot see Samsung having yet another Windows tablet/2-in-1. They did have various Windows tablets but they sunk without a trace. Even the Surface Pro sales have fallen and I suspect that consumer are not really interested in Windows Tablets anymore.
This channel turns from art channel from art tech product review
This is Surface Neo made by Lenovo.
Right? I'm surprised it took someone so long to use this idea.
I would like to see this laptop in a desktop arm mount as 2nd monitor setup.
He made that speaker segment sound like it's a bad thing for it to be loud.
pretty shure the pen is aes since Lenovo uses aes on any of their other laptops. get a better pen like the precision pen 2 and see if it gets better.
It's really neat, but I can see a little line wobble in almost everything you're drawing there. Really unfortunate. I do a lot of drawing on a Yoga 720 from a few years ago, and I don't think the wobble is as bad as this. 😕
would you recommend this laptop to someone that is into programming, coding, and such !!????
Do you think this would be a good investment for writing books? You had mentioned you wrote scripts on it so I was curious about that aspect more so than art.
Could you recommend for photographers. Even editing weddings?
Has anyone found a compatible pen for the Yoga Book 9i? The specs says it uses the Lenovo Digital Pen (Gen 3) but I can't find anything that would act as a replacement if you lose the pen that comes with it.
Once Lenovo gets the pen working to the level of the Surface Pen it’s over for all other laptops.
I need a laptop for regular home use. Working on PowerPoint, excel, word, internet. Love two screens.
Would this be overkill?
Couldn't you buy a usbc adapter with a headphone port?
Thanks very much for this review. This had seemed really intriguing, but I wasn't sure how the drawing experience would be. I appreciate your thoughts on this.
If the lines are shaky I don't think it's good for artists to use
Thanks for the vid. Pity, this smooth laptop isn't really for artists >,> (not that I could afford it anyway :) ) But it's a kool one still. //Your reviews are the best//
Will a supposedly better pen like Wacom o some other third party pen work with this lapto and fix your issues with the pen?
No any benchmarks? What kind of laptop review it is?
What is with it with line wobble. Outside of Wacom and a few pen display manufactures it seems no one can eliminate it. I LOVE my Surface, but can't use it for drawing. This looks like a great device, other than for art. Well, one day.
❤huion kamvas 16 vs huion kamvas pro 16 witch graphic tablet i choose?......please brad sir guide me.....love your videos❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Reminds me of the discontinued Microsoft Neo
Can you hook up an external monitor? And which screen would be mirrored?
Hi, are you still doing brads art school?
What about for coding, reading, and school?
Hi, I was hoping you could help. Do you think this would be good for using Adobe photoshop, InDesign and illustrator or would Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio be better?
I tried it at best buy. Is the bottom screen dimmer. I could not get it to be brighter. Which is my only issue
What is the brand and name of your drawing hand guard?
i love the laptop... but the stylus 😢😢😢
Is the pen have same quality in lenovo yoga 7i?
I wanna buy yoga 71 2in1 but really worry about line jitter and wobble 😢
Hello Tabsen 😅
cool device, but for me, jiggly line alone is big enough reason not to use it for digital art working.
Would love for you to review the Xiaomi Pad 6
wow you have like 10x more subscribers than you had last time i saw ya
Your course link is dead. "This account has been suspended contact your hosting provider for more information"
Sorry about that. The website is back up now brad.site/artschool/
get a pair of creative outlier air golds.....they will last an entire day on a charge ...I leave my house wearing them and when im minutes away from home they give a few low battery notifications before dying out. there is absolutely no reason to be annoying yourself with headphone cords....lol
FiiO KA1 USB Amp/DAC usb-c DAC $49 and it will sound better than the headphone out
what about the new Xiaomi pad 6
I'm waiting for new released xiaomi pad 6 with the 2nd gen pen that can hold insanely 150 hours!
The website is suspended. I wanted to join the 60-day course
Sorry about that. The website is back up now brad.site/artschool/
Wait, so does this mean you cannot draw while using both screens? Oof, well there goes that idea out the window.
Pen wobble is a no go for me.
When is xiaomi pad 6 review coming?
Great lap top. I order one in July and Lenovo promises to deliver it - mid July than mid Aug than mid Sept that is if they have manufactured a part. So dodgy - weird to wrk wth them and customer disrespectful business . Yes I ordered directly from them. Shame
edit the work on this and render it either on my mac or desktop :d export the file
Please do a review of mi pad 6 🙏
1:19 People with seven fingers. 😔
I hate the thick bezels
Can you make a video up on (xiaomi pad 6)
The pen looks like its of no use for an artist. Pity though, really cool piece of tech.
Best single device for playing online D&D? 😆
Do a review of Xiaomi pad 6
Xiaomi pad 6 .....drawing test video