Playing "Just a Girl" during the final fight is just as bad as if they played "I'M BLACK Y'ALL" during the end fight of Black Panther. That selection was WAY too on the nose.
@Claudius Maximus 1.) Pretty sure the use of my name and picture shows that I'm not trying to "lurk anonymous" 2.) You're coming at me like I said the movie sucked. I didn't think it sucked. I liked it. I'm pointing out a critisism. Remember criticisms? They can be constructive -- like mine was. Just because I point out a flaw doesn't mean I hated this movie in any way. Just sharing a thought about a movie. I don't see why I should "Such" up for that. You, my dear friend, sound like the Whitest of White Knights.
Claudius Maximus My opinions certainly don’t matter any more than anyone else’s, including yourself for that matter. The OP shared his, however, on a video with a comment section designed for...sharing thoughts, obviously. Criticism, especially when posited the way the OP worded, is not only valid, but relevant to the content in the video. Coming out swinging with a “Shut your dumb ass up”, makes it clear where your feelings and thoughts lie. And speaking of eroding your brain, the way you speak is suggestive of some long-term weathering for sure. Bet your toxicity levels are off the chart, with how much negativity-fueled shit-talking your comment is comprised of.
antobio nabarro is that a Song of the South reference? If so, I see what you did there lol Also, I really like the questions Oz presents at the end. After endgame, it might be time for a breather because the phase 3 movies really blended the super hero genre with other genres well thanks to directors like Taika, James Gunn, Ryan Coogler and the Russo bros. After Endgame, I really want to see what direction Marvel heads in.
I gotta disagree, im only saying this now. I love how this really dumb thing happened to him that he hypes up out of pride, and lies about it. That's totally Nick Fury. Lolol
I really don't see why, as soon as the cat was introduced I thought it was predictable to everyone that the cat was related to how he would lose it somehow...considering the cat was the *only* one he trusted
Skrulls and the Kree are basically tit for tat in the comics; both want to conquer Earth because of the our strategic location in the Kree/ Skrull War.
If the Skrulls come back to earth as the villains we know to be, it will definitely be in the new FF. Talos plus FF's abilities equals SUPER SKRULL(holla if ya hear me).
yeah, he faked Coulson's and his death to motivate others so I wouldn't put it above him to exaggerate getting catscratched. He's pretty much the Obi-Wan of the MCU. Lies and lies but truth from "a certain point of view"
Maybe they assume that Mar-vell worked with Howard Stark. I think he would have been dead at this time. However, he could have started the project and she could have acquired his schematics when she acquired the Tesseract. She also could be old as fuck. Either way works for me.
You lost me at "the marketing was amazing". The marketing itself was a controversy that caused entire websites to change algorithms including RUclips. Really? Amazing?
@@altec3600 We'll have to see if it lasts. Last Jedi broke 220 million on it's opening weekend and then took a nosedive shortly after - it came up $200 million short on it's expectations.
@@altec3600 captain Marvel opened the same weekend all over the world except Japan which is not that big of a market. This is the first marvel movie to release like that. Black panther did not release in China and some other countries so it would break most marvel movie international opening box office records.
They put out trailers for this using nostalgic clips from other heroes like Iron Man and Cap after the first few trailers failed to excite. Nobody pays attention to manipulation. Same as not showing anything in the endgame trailers but nostalgia.
the plot hole was the teseract. it was lost at sea when it melted through the bomber. how did stark and pegasus get it. or rather why did no one notice mar-vel finding it.
It wasn't a Winter Solider or even a Dr. Strange, but it was ok. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. It's definitely not as heavy with the feminism as thought based on your review and other reviews. It's like slightly better than Ant Man.
At least I like the characters in Antman 1&2, plus they were fun as their own thing. Captain marvel and most of the characters in the movie were lame/bland.
@Marvel060 Cap has been the leader for the averages, Ironman does things behind people's back. Starlord is a dumbass, I think most people in his team don't take him seriously. Thing is, it doesn't matter if the leader is female/male just make the character interesting, not some cardboard cutout. Storm from the comics is a great example
Yeah, SHIELD has been around since at least 1989 (according to the first Ant-Man). The fact that no one working there realized that their organization's name spelled the word "Shield" until 2008 is way beyond the suspension of disbelief. If this is considered a plot hole, then it's a plot hole from much earlier Marvel movies.
you dont even have to see the end of the movie, brie said it to nick when they met up at the bar "oh you work at shield. you must have high level clearance"
@@tavarsenewman1380 it wasn't a plot hole, it was an Easter egg in a movie that was the first in a franchise. It's just neither of the FIVE WRITERS on this movie either didn't do their research, forgot, or didn't care.
In the comics it was Rocket that disclosed that Goose was a flerken. So the idea that it would have fit better with Guardians is actually pretty legit.
They literally have 2 characters from GOTG show up lol, so to me it didnt feel odd at all. Its supposed to be a Universe where sometimes the tones mix up.
Why is there discussion about how she got her powers? If the logic you use is applied then HULK, Bruce Banner should have a 'meta gene' too! It's simply a case of fantastic force or power not killing but altering the person into something else. Why can you accept HULK but not MCU version of Captain Marvel?
True, though, it’s kinda just thrown in there. I don’t know, it just didn’t give that same impact. There’s really no explanation to her powers besides that it comes from the tesseract, which can have it be anything. They should’ve just elaborated more on her powers and what she could do besides just having it be “oh, I shoot photon blasts and fly in space.”
Marvel060 for some, sure. But if you have all the heroes have some sort of meta-gene or X-gene then it would take away a bit of what made them special, because then it would make someone like Steve Rodgers be born at an advantage which would diminish what he represent as the every-day-man becoming something grand from his bravery and nobility rather than having good genetics...if that makes any sense lol
Marvel060 I dont mind Hulk and Captain Marvel, but T’Challa and Steve should just be products of experimentation and natural sciences. I get what you’re saying. I’ve read DC and know of the meta-gene, and I think it’s a brilliant explanation to a lot of the super humans in their world, but some should be left untouched and be true to what they are; normal men and women that are granted awesome powers out of their own strength as individuals, not for having lucky genes.
@@Inkbleedful x gene is just for mutants boo boo. there are none mutants in marvel as well..........there are people have special genes (like carol, like bruce) that allows them to survive these energies instead of dying. look at cap. he is not the only or first person to take the super soldier serum, he was just the one it worked on. its all about genetics due to the celestials tampering with the human genome. its not that deep
Originally the Skrulls were the good guys and the Kree were barbaric. The Kree started the all out war for power and conquest. Then after Galactus ate the Skrull homeworld the Skrulls were scattered across the galaxy.
1. she got her power the same exact way most marvel characters get their power. 2. it's been 11 years, how have yalla not figured out the second stinger is usually light.
*There's nothing stopping a different group of evil Skrulls from coming to Earth. *Nicks eye origin was pathetic. They could have just kept the mystery going. They didn't even have to confirm it in this movie.
The Skrulls are like humans. There are a group of evil corrupt Skrulls and rebels who don't want power and war. For example HYDRA. Does that mean all humans are evil like them no. Also there are the Super Skrulls which are in a class of their own. All the MCU need is the right director to show us how evil they can be. For all those crying no source this is NOT 616 universe. Marvel could reboot another Marvel movie series based on 616 universe if they wanted to.
@@hamhockbeans Yea that's how I look at it. There's probably some Kree that are neutral or good and just want to chill out in an outpost somewhere. I don't think any race should just be labelled as bad. Heck in Star Trek you have good Klingons that work for the Star Fleet and there's evil ones too.
Even though the Skrulls were villains from their first appearance in Marvel comics, they were originally a peaceful advanced civilization that became warlike and ultimately evil after they were attacked by the Kree.
Kree are the Nazis, while the Skrull are communist. Kree believe in species superiority, while Skrulls tries to infiltrate from within (analogy of the red scare).
@@sugreev2001 Only a fool thinks Hollywood is pro-communist. They make a movie that celebrates american military literally every year like Zero Dark Thirty, American Sniper, Dunkirk, etc and even this movie makes being an airforce pilot look like a cool thing for women but more than 50% of women in the military get raped.
I definitely agree that they could have kept nick fury's eyepatch origin a secret. But, in the other hand, I won't lie and agree with everyone to be "cool". I actually laughed when it turned out that he only lost his eye because a cat scratched it. I dont know, it kinda reminded me of a Simposons/Rick and Morty humor of playing with audience's expectations.
Howard Stark was part of the Pegasus program which Dr. Lawson was part of. Stark of course had been killed by the Winter Soldier when Captain Marvel took place so its not a plot hole. I hate when someone says plot hole, just because they don't know how to add 2 plus 2.
I don't think Nick Fury was talking about his actual physical eye. People forget why he delivered that line. Agent Caulson had just died before that scene. And he was Furys "EYE" in the field. He reported directly to Fury and was always one of the first SHIELD agents on the scene. I think when Caulson died Fury was talking about him. Fury trusted him enough to represent him in the field. I think maybe him loosing his eye in captain Marvel isnt what that scene was about when his says he lost his good eye.
There were no plotholes at all. Only people who didn't pay attention to the movie. It's part of the MCU, if you don't find the answer here it must be somewhere in another movie. That's always how its been.
Things not explained or followed up in movies is a thing and ppl are told to ignore them. You don't have to ignore them tho. Suspension of disbelief can't cover everything 😩
About the arc: this is a film about self-discovery above all else, which might not be as monumental as some other origin stories, but I think that’s what resonated with me and others. Again, understand if you don’t vibe with it, but hey. As for her powers, there are several other superhero characters (even in the MCU!) that got their powers out of convenience, so while it’s a valid critique I wouldn’t say it applies just to Carol. Nice discussion guys!
The reason she got powers is because she had Marvell’s blood on her hands so when the explosion happened all that helped her absorb the power from the machines. Remember that’s what they were doing on earth splicing Cree in human DNA together you make stronger individuals. And they also explain this on agents of shield
This movie was very accessible for those not fully invested in the MCU. Very good for a Phase 4 movie that needs to bring in new adults and a younger generation of fans.
@@sidjones16 - Phase 4 officially begins with "Far From Home." Regardless, Captain Marvel is a Phase 4 movie. The character has been newly introduced at the end of Phase 3 and will be one of the main protagonists/heroes within the Phase 4 continuity. Endgame may officially wrap Phase 3, but it's also the culmination of Phases 1, 2 and 3. A movie can be many things. It isn't all black and white.
"You're applauding it for the message more than you're applauding it for being a good movie" isnt that what you did with Black Panther though? Dont get wrong, I love both movies despite their flaws, but I feel like you are attacking the flaws in this movie more so than Black Panther because Black Panther's message meant more to you
They were talking about having a black widow film being made I honestly would have liked it if he lost it in a spy film like someone betrayed him there and they had him with black widow.
After Endgame I might only care about Spider-Man Far From Home and Black Panther 2. But depending on what happens in Endgame maybe I’ll get excited again.
I agree with Christopher, there was no arc. They should have explored her fighting with the Kree and messing up because of her getting emotional instead of just glossing over it when her and Jude Law were fighting by him saying it. That would have given her somewhat of an arc when she was able to fully is her powers at the end. You can watch the Tony Starks arc in Ironman and tell exactly what this movie was missing. Good movie, could've been better.
A couple of points. 1) The SSR became SHIELD by the 80s, in Ant-man the prologue with a younger Hank Pym was in 1989, SHIELD was fully formed by that point. Even the Triskileon Building (SHIELD HQ) from Winter Soldier was midway through completion. 2) The Skrulls aren't monolithic. There's Good, Bad and Neutral factions in the comics. So nothing stops Secret Invasion from happening in the MCU. 3) It was established in Captain America: The First Avenger and Ironman 2 Howard Stark found and kept the Tesseract he also headed Project Pegasus, which Mar-Vel/Dr. Lawson was a scientist for in this film. The fucking CUBE was with PROJECT PEGASUS since 1944! By the way Project Pegasus is a subdivision of the SSR/SHIELD. None of these are PLOTHOLES! Ya'll just looking for them.
Agreed that these are not plot holes but Nick losing his eye. Then him blaming thor for the alien being on earth are definitely plot holes and you can tell they didn't research their own universe enough
As a woman, I loved the use of "I'm Just a girl," and I felt totally empowered by the entire end of the movie! The song is meant as a jab to all of the people that held her down and told her she wasn't good enough! That, along with telling Jude Law she didn't need to prove anything to him, were the two most powerful moments in the movie for me.
For people going into this movie thinking it would be too political...they think they're gonna get hit with the right hand of feminism, then they get knocked out with a left hook of immigration they didn't see coming. I really enjoyed everything with the skrulls in this movie.
Paragon Bourne Agreed. These manbabies saying the movie was all in your face preaching feminist ideology are such liars. Nothing like that was in the film.
@Claudius Maximus valid point. i dont even think they are talking feminism as in a pro women film. i believe they are talking about hardcore feminazi man hating going on in the film and there was none of that.
I think Sammy is right with the "I'm just a girl" music scene. I believe it was the point of the film. Carol Danvers has unlocked her full power. She is so powerful that the elite kree force is powerless against her. I think it fits.
Plot hole: After the Red Skull got teleported into space because he held the tesseract, the tesseract just burned a hole through the floor of his plane and fell into the ocean. Here, it can be contained in a damn tin lunchbox.
Wait, this movies takes place in 1995? The same year Toy Story was released? Also, that flerken needs his own movie. Overall, the movie had flaws but I had fun.
I guess this movie shows us again that you dont have to deliver quality to make a load of money. Marvel Movie fans be prepared for more cheaply made and boring movies, because that's what Disney will do, when they look back to Captain Marvel.
Honestly though you're so heavily invested in the avenger movies that you have to put up with mediocrity. It's like you're reading a 10 book series and to want to see the ending. So you have to tolerate the more boring installments
19:33 You know I always liked the idea that Carol had an Inhuman gene in her or something. 19:48 Well tbf she has the same arc as Blade. He beats the fuck out of villains consistently throughout the film. It's not always a bad thing. 21:53 Fury is a spy. He aint going to disclose all the real motives of his actions.
"We're still working on the name." That joke became inconsistent the moment they actually looked back at the history of SHIELD, which was by the time they had the show, Winter Soldier and Agent Carter. It was always a joke that was supposed to catch comic fans off-guard, having not expected "SHIELD" to be in Iron Man. Because back in 2008, it was an amazing little twist.
My wife who never criticizes movies no matter how stupid made me die laughing after we watched this. When the teasers were done she looked at me and said "That's it, that was atrocious!" She's never criticized any movie I've ever watched with her.
Red Skull found it first, Howard recovered it, it was at SHIELD from then. Mar-vel shapeshifted as the scientist, the cube is left on the lab for 6 years. The Flerkin swallows it, spits it up years later on the desk, Fury stores it...Loki steals it.
Her weakness since childhood was that any guy taunting her would make her go berserk and almost kill herself. She never outgrows that. She just got stronger, so it didn't hurt anymore. I thought that was weird.
@@Megatron-xs2qe I didn't feel that way. But I did think Larson was miscast. And they should've developed the character deeper. I'm curious, have you seen the movie yet, or just the trailers and reviews?
Nobody asks Chtalla/Chadwick whether he should smile more. Woman are always judged about how much they have to smile to look feminine. That talk is actually sexist.
People have been calling for Superhero fatigue since the first Avengers. As long as companies like Marvel keeps its fresh and not make 25 Iron Man sequels, we will not see fatigue.
Hollywood. Liberal racists. All black women are evidently single mothers. The worst part is in the books the father is integral in the girl's life and SHE is the first female Capt. Marvel.
I was wondering that Maria has no problem being an elite pilot and raise a child at the same time. What a shitty Mary Sue and a total disrespect to pilots in real life who are mothers.
Father's leave? Or maybe she met her husband in the military and he died? Why are idiots jumping to conclusions of feminism? Maybe they're planning to write an arc later where they reconnect or she visits his grave? You guys really just want to be angry about something and relate it to your feminist boogeyman.
I foresee the Black Widow movie showing Nick Fury becoming more of a badass. I liked the twist with him losing his eye to some bullshit. The best twists are the ones that you would never suspect in a million years. Like Ned Stark getting his head cut off when you assumed he was the protagonist.
That comment from Fury about Thor in Avengers 1 is actually more interesting in retrospect. They accuse him of building weapons with the Tesseract and he says it's because they found out last year that we weren't alone in the universe. But when you think about it, it's weird that they're so far along in the year since Thor became a known thing. I know SHIELD is pretty advanced for a human organization but advanced to create that sort of thing? Doesn't seem feasible. It would make more sense that he used Thor as a convenient excuse at the time since everyone knew about it and rather than law his cards all out and only complicate the situation further if he were to tell the truth. It's probably just a plot hole but it would be interesting if it was intended to be viewed like this, lol
Not sure what people problem with the film is. It's fine, just like 90% of Marvel films. Some people like it a shit ton and maybe overhyped it to you but I dont get all the negativity surrounding the film. Solid 6.5ish, Matinee.
Reed Richards hypnotized the first Skrulls he fought into believing they were cows. He took them to a beef farm where they were slaughtered and bred and eaten by humans for 20 years.
Finally! First off what I thought was a twist where the Secret Invasion arc was over with Skrulls beings shown as normal peaceful race. But when Talos tells his wife to cover their daughter's eyes as they escape, the girl watches her dad get shot by a Kree that looks human. Seeds are in place and I can't wait to see what happens.The 3 seconds of Carol Danvers we got from the Russo Brothers End Game credits already makes me curious too.
Plus they mentioned there are different skrull factions in the universe. Some might be violent/extremists and/or evil. 20 years can change people. That traumatic incident the daughter (might be the new Skrull queen)seeing Talos shot, he could die years later from his wound leaving her bitter or the snap might prompt the skrulls to think the kree, not knowing about thanos is behind it having them seek revenge
Them using the skrulls was always so interesting to me because in Avengers, the Skrulls were actually called Chithari in the Ultimate Marvel Universe. The MCU borrowed heavily on the ultimate universe from Fury being Black to Thor's new weapon.
I feel like people don't remember much about Nick Fury's personality in the other Marvel films. He was serious when he needed to be but he also made jokes and was a smart ass in the other films as well. It's funny how people's memories play tricks on them and they remember what they want to remember about him.
Great discussion y'all. I'd give the film a matinee on y'all scale and a B on mine. Really enjoyed it. I didn't watch any trailers so I guess that helped. Good to see Oz in Human form though lmao
This movie still doesn’t create a compelling enough reason for Nick Fury wouldn’t call on Captain Marvel when the planet was being threatened in Avengers 1 & 2.
The "I'm Just A Girl" sequence was nowhere NEAR threatening; we're told ahead of time that she's merely just creating a distraction while the others escape, and seeing as how she just unlocked her OP powers, she was basically fucking with them at that point. Their threat against our heroes was over pretty much at "My Name Is Carol."
yeah its delusional to think this was going to bomb . its a marvel movie and its going to make a considerable amount of money even if it doesnt hit bp or infinity war level money . still doesnt automatically means the movie is good because of that . people have to decide that for themselves when they see it ..
I loved this film a lot man. It was a fun competent origin story and I’m definitely excited for Carol moving forward. I trust the Russos to give her more to do in Endgame. I wouldn’t say that I “gave this film a pass” as a woman, I genuinely thought this was good. I think it is important though to recognise that cultural background can influence criticism and that can’t be a bad thing. If you stand by that argument, you could say we all gave Black Panther a pass for being a “black film”. I’m glad it did well but let’s be real it was always going to make bank 😂😂😂 The “boycotts” never stood a chance; most people have no idea about the garbage controversy surrounding this film and just wanted to see the next episode in the Marvel Cinematic Series.
Why does Annette Benning’s character need to go undercover in the army to fix the light speed engine, when she has a secret lab orbiting Earth with far superior technology than what Earth has? I thought the Kree were supposed to be way more advanced than us?
The movie's writers assumed the fans watching had enough brain cells to figure out she needed the Tesseract that the US military has instead of spelling it out explicitly.
@@supreme1572 The eleven writers behind Captain Marvel thought the audience were dumb enough to not question the necessity of light speed engine when there are freaking JUMP POINTS in use. So stupid. This movie sucks.
@@tiaaaron3278 The jump points are nothing compared to light speed travel with the space stone. She wanted to send them to the opposite side of the universe where they wouldnt be found by the Kree. Rocket and Yondu didnt even have to go that far in Guardians 2 and they had to do dangerous amounts of jumps. There's nothing wrong with the movie perhaps you just dont know about what youre talking about.
I like the whole kree skrull twist in this movie it was just like that twist in iron man 3 with the mandarin. Also the twist with Nick fury losing his eye is funny as fuck. 😂😂😂
I enjoyed Captain Marvel. I look forward to seeing more of the character in future MCU films. I have no fatigue. I want to see X-Men, Fantastic 4, and Deadpool in the MCU. Marvel is a huge universe with so many other great characters to explore. Bring it in on!
funny for some people that think this movie would be too political even if that’s the case some of the MCU movies where political i.e. Infinity war with Thanos wanting to stop overpopulation and the solution would be genocide, the first iron man a rich philanthropist selling nuclear weapons to the government then terrorists capture him to make the bombs, Captain America 1, 2 and three where all political where in the first one literally in a historical time piece where a Nazi wanted to take the world like Hitler, the second one where shield thought to be legit was infiltrated by the enemy and had more corruption in senators and other political figures, and the third one where the govt. wanted to suppress the avengers use of superhuman abilities and only use them when ever the govt. needed to. So just cause now where where a superhero women with barely any propaganda in the movie is just an origin movie I guess it’s going to be a tragedy if it was “too political” that’s some smart logic I can see why some people will hate this movie *Sarcasm*.
I got the same feeling, but I think that worked in its favour for me? It had a grounded Bourne Identity feel and that 90s backdrop definitely had something to do with it.
The Marvel name is huge and it ties into their biggest movie of all time.. stop gassing. And it was BARELY a success just like Ant-Man. Watch the box office drop off from here on out.
You honestly think that a cartooned muscled up Jimmy Fallon looking dude has ANY potential of beating a marvel MCU movie? Especially made by DC that has not had a good movie aside from Wonder Woman and maybe Aquaman? I mean his fight scenes are going to be a huge CGI mess
@@58kenstyle Maybe maybe... But Shazam as a superhero still is shit. Nothing like the comics and the movie has not even officially released yet...so you cant judge too soon....
I'm a little disappointed with how Fury lost his eye but I'm not mad and it's not a plot hole. The SHIELD thing I always took as Coulson being sarcastic in response to what Tony said. Because the acronym is still SHIELD. So you can still call it that for short. That said, I don't think they can fit the whole name on a hat so I wouldn't be surprised by it already being called SHIELD. Not a plot hole. And the tessaract thing idk if it's a plot hole because anything can happen between these movies and I also don't see what is plot holey about it being where it was. What made the movie wasn't the (vague) female message, but the fact that she turned Super Saiyan. XD
Nick Fury's badass origin could be introduced in Black Widow movie... How he recruited her in SHIELD. And maybe there will be more N.Fury with a Monica R. or other Pre Iron Man shows/movies.
When it comes to Korey talking about the 55 percent of audience being guys and them being there to see how this connects to Endgame I would be willing to bet that if people knew after credits scene to endgame this movie would not have gotten the money it did. It really is just there for endgame and could easily not exist. If anything the MCU would have been better if it didnt.
I am glad this movie made a lot of money, because it means we will get another one, hopefully in the hand of someone more talented and with a clear idea of the character, and maybe, just maybe, we will get our Winter Soldier or Thor Ragnarok moment with her character as well. I can`t wait!
Yeah it’s cool that this movie is doing well in the box office because it will show Hollywood that female leads won’t hurt the box office. If a mediocre film like this can do big guns then you can’t really keep relying on the female leads don’t sell argument.
21:44 If you know the character Nick Fury well enough, you know that he never tells anybody everything he knows. When he said "Because Of Him" pointing to Thor, I was never under the impression that Thor was the catalyst that Sparked the Avengers initiative. Its just a reason he can give that prevents them from asking more questions. Remember, Cap was in the 1940's along with Howard Stark. The Origins of Shield start in the 1950's with Stark and Carter. the attempts to re create the Serum are the origins of Hulk.
At about 6:30 : I agree, the change didn't bother me anywhere near as much as the "Mandarin' switch, but having Skrulls be the good guys kind of kills any plans for 'Secret Invasion" (Unless they say that a splinter group of militant skrulls [Skrull Isis?] is doing the invasion).
The Tesseract was in the Pulp Fiction briefcase.
A Birks LORD!! That’s funny AND brilliant!! 💥
I thought it was the Soul Gem😉
Then why was the light yellow, not blue?
Best theory ever
@@snaketooth0943 yeah, and wallace is thanos in disguise haha
Playing "Just a Girl" during the final fight is just as bad as if they played "I'M BLACK Y'ALL" during the end fight of Black Panther. That selection was WAY too on the nose.
Claudius Maximus I’m hoping your response is to a different comment, bc Keishen sounds far less psychopathic than yourself right here.
@Claudius Maximus 1.) Pretty sure the use of my name and picture shows that I'm not trying to "lurk anonymous"
2.) You're coming at me like I said the movie sucked. I didn't think it sucked. I liked it. I'm pointing out a critisism. Remember criticisms? They can be constructive -- like mine was. Just because I point out a flaw doesn't mean I hated this movie in any way. Just sharing a thought about a movie. I don't see why I should "Such" up for that.
You, my dear friend, sound like the Whitest of White Knights.
@Claudius Maximus aww so you mad mad?
They should have played I'm Black Yall in Black Panther. You are a genius!
Claudius Maximus My opinions certainly don’t matter any more than anyone else’s, including yourself for that matter. The OP shared his, however, on a video with a comment section designed for...sharing thoughts, obviously. Criticism, especially when posited the way the OP worded, is not only valid, but relevant to the content in the video. Coming out swinging with a “Shut your dumb ass up”, makes it clear where your feelings and thoughts lie. And speaking of eroding your brain, the way you speak is suggestive of some long-term weathering for sure. Bet your toxicity levels are off the chart, with how much negativity-fueled shit-talking your comment is comprised of.
I mean it's a Marvel movie. Of course, it made money.
What about the boycott by all those man babies though 😆😆😆😆
It's Disney nobody is as powerful as them. They can do a racist movie and people would love it ......... Oh wait.
They could film a guy taking a shit for two hrs, but if it's "Marvel's The Shitter" it'll make 150mil opening weekend.
Its still the most boring cookie cutter Marvel movie of them all. I think the MCU will start to wither after End Game.
antobio nabarro is that a Song of the South reference? If so, I see what you did there lol
Also, I really like the questions Oz presents at the end. After endgame, it might be time for a breather because the phase 3 movies really blended the super hero genre with other genres well thanks to directors like Taika, James Gunn, Ryan Coogler and the Russo bros. After Endgame, I really want to see what direction Marvel heads in.
The way Nick Fury lost his eye was sooo disappointing...
Yeah true.
I’ll just consider it non-canon, like filler.
@@Chenso2099 same
I gotta disagree, im only saying this now. I love how this really dumb thing happened to him that he hypes up out of pride, and lies about it. That's totally Nick Fury. Lolol
I really don't see why, as soon as the cat was introduced I thought it was predictable to everyone that the cat was related to how he would lose it somehow...considering the cat was the *only* one he trusted
Skrulls and the Kree are basically tit for tat in the comics; both want to conquer Earth because of the our strategic location in the Kree/ Skrull War.
That Skrull makeup doesn't that makes it interesting on how the Green Goblin would look like in the MCU.
Maybe should change that in the movies? Judging from how advanced they are in mcu they should have no problems conquering earth.
If the Skrulls come back to earth as the villains we know to be, it will definitely be in the new FF.
Talos plus FF's abilities equals SUPER SKRULL(holla if ya hear me).
Ayyyyyyy OZ is in the studio! I finally get to see him in person 😆
It's not a plot hole for Fury to be a liar. "HIS SECRETS HAVE SECRETS"
Great, now Fury is my grandmother, a chronic liar that makes up cools stories for events that was actually mundane and stupid.
I was thinking the same thing. Is secrets have secrets.
@@frbe0101 He literally did that exact same thing when he lied about Colson's death. Fury is a manipulator, has been from day 1 in the MCU
Will Strickland He did not call her before because the Avengers had things covered. Thanos has defeated them. That is why Capt Marvel is needed now.
yeah, he faked Coulson's and his death to motivate others so I wouldn't put it above him to exaggerate getting catscratched. He's pretty much the Obi-Wan of the MCU. Lies and lies but truth from "a certain point of view"
Howard Stark started Pegasus. How is it a plot hole?
Maybe they assume that Mar-vell worked with Howard Stark. I think he would have been dead at this time. However, he could have started the project and she could have acquired his schematics when she acquired the Tesseract. She also could be old as fuck. Either way works for me.
Iron Man 2, it looked like Tony was gonna finish it with other projects.
Nick Fury recruited Black Widow. That story could be what harden his personality.
Hmmm sure
We'll find out next summer.
Smh black servant and black single mother that movie was lowkey racist
You lost me at "the marketing was amazing". The marketing itself was a controversy that caused entire websites to change algorithms including RUclips. Really? Amazing?
It broke BP’s opening weekend box office record, shiet it did something 💵💸
@@altec3600 We'll have to see if it lasts. Last Jedi broke 220 million on it's opening weekend and then took a nosedive shortly after - it came up $200 million short on it's expectations.
@@altec3600 captain Marvel opened the same weekend all over the world except Japan which is not that big of a market. This is the first marvel movie to release like that. Black panther did not release in China and some other countries so it would break most marvel movie international opening box office records.
They put out trailers for this using nostalgic clips from other heroes like Iron Man and Cap after the first few trailers failed to excite. Nobody pays attention to manipulation. Same as not showing anything in the endgame trailers but nostalgia.
Peter In Far From Home:
Peter: "So how'd you lose your eye Fury was it in some kinda heroic Accident?"
Fury: "THAT'S CLASSIFIED"
Mar-Vell was part of project PEGASUS, which Howard Stark was a part of too. Its not really a plot hole..
It's a bad retcon and you know it thats why the qualifier.
Seriously, it was so evident.
PEGASUS is a part of SHIELD. First scene of the Avengers.
@@wolflordbradley7353
First mentioned in Iron Man 2. First seen in Avengers.
Poser 😎
the plot hole was the teseract. it was lost at sea when it melted through the bomber. how did stark and pegasus get it. or rather why did no one notice mar-vel finding it.
It wasn't a Winter Solider or even a Dr. Strange, but it was ok. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. It's definitely not as heavy with the feminism as thought based on your review and other reviews. It's like slightly better than Ant Man.
Ant Man was way better.
@@qdaddy9935 Eh. It was very middle of the road. Gives me Phase 1 vibes.
@Marvel060 oh for sure! The movie has two points that irked me and the ending was one of them.
At least I like the characters in Antman 1&2, plus they were fun as their own thing. Captain marvel and most of the characters in the movie were lame/bland.
@Marvel060 Cap has been the leader for the averages, Ironman does things behind people's back. Starlord is a dumbass, I think most people in his team don't take him seriously. Thing is, it doesn't matter if the leader is female/male just make the character interesting, not some cardboard cutout. Storm from the comics is a great example
Coulson saying "we're still working on a name" was just a joke. At the end of the movie its obvious they've been called SHIELD for years
Yeah, SHIELD has been around since at least 1989 (according to the first Ant-Man). The fact that no one working there realized that their organization's name spelled the word "Shield" until 2008 is way beyond the suspension of disbelief. If this is considered a plot hole, then it's a plot hole from much earlier Marvel movies.
you dont even have to see the end of the movie, brie said it to nick when they met up at the bar "oh you work at shield. you must have high level clearance"
@@tavarsenewman1380 it wasn't a plot hole, it was an Easter egg in a movie that was the first in a franchise. It's just neither of the FIVE WRITERS on this movie either didn't do their research, forgot, or didn't care.
@@tavarsenewman1380 I knew it. I was thinking to myself how SHIELD was mentioned and established during Hank Pym's days as Ant Man
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In the comics it was Rocket that disclosed that Goose was a flerken. So the idea that it would have fit better with Guardians is actually pretty legit.
Yup
They literally have 2 characters from GOTG show up lol, so to me it didnt feel odd at all. Its supposed to be a Universe where sometimes the tones mix up.
Why is there discussion about how she got her powers? If the logic you use is applied then HULK, Bruce Banner should have a 'meta gene' too! It's simply a case of fantastic force or power not killing but altering the person into something else. Why can you accept HULK but not MCU version of Captain Marvel?
Meta gene is in DC X gene is in marvel but I see your point.
True, though, it’s kinda just thrown in there. I don’t know, it just didn’t give that same impact. There’s really no explanation to her powers besides that it comes from the tesseract, which can have it be anything. They should’ve just elaborated more on her powers and what she could do besides just having it be “oh, I shoot photon blasts and fly in space.”
Marvel060 for some, sure. But if you have all the heroes have some sort of meta-gene or X-gene then it would take away a bit of what made them special, because then it would make someone like Steve Rodgers be born at an advantage which would diminish what he represent as the every-day-man becoming something grand from his bravery and nobility rather than having good genetics...if that makes any sense lol
Marvel060 I dont mind Hulk and Captain Marvel, but T’Challa and Steve should just be products of experimentation and natural sciences. I get what you’re saying. I’ve read DC and know of the meta-gene, and I think it’s a brilliant explanation to a lot of the super humans in their world, but some should be left untouched and be true to what they are; normal men and women that are granted awesome powers out of their own strength as individuals, not for having lucky genes.
@@Inkbleedful x gene is just for mutants boo boo. there are none mutants in marvel as well..........there are people have special genes (like carol, like bruce) that allows them to survive these energies instead of dying. look at cap. he is not the only or first person to take the super soldier serum, he was just the one it worked on. its all about genetics due to the celestials tampering with the human genome. its not that deep
My Favorite origin film is IRON MAN hands down.
mine is Halle Barry’s Catwoman
Captain America the First Avenger was pretty damn good too
@@anthonyaguilar8092 what
Weird flex, but okay.
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When Captain Marvel got her bomber jacket, is it me or was that a refernce to Rouge.
I spotted that too.
Also Cyclops rocked a bomber over his X-suit as well.
But Rogue wore it better.
Originally the Skrulls were the good guys and the Kree were barbaric. The Kree started the all out war for power and conquest. Then after Galactus ate the Skrull homeworld the Skrulls were scattered across the galaxy.
1. she got her power the same exact way most marvel characters get their power.
2. it's been 11 years, how have yalla not figured out the second stinger is usually light.
I disagree with that point of the stinger not matching tone. cause for all we know she saw the skrulls get snapped and is probably distraught imo
Good point
*There's nothing stopping a different group of evil Skrulls from coming to Earth.
*Nicks eye origin was pathetic. They could have just kept the mystery going. They didn't even have to confirm it in this movie.
The Skrulls are like humans. There are a group of evil corrupt Skrulls and rebels who don't want power and war. For example HYDRA. Does that mean all humans are evil like them no. Also there are the Super Skrulls which are in a class of their own. All the MCU need is the right director to show us how evil they can be. For all those crying no source this is NOT 616 universe. Marvel could reboot another Marvel movie series based on 616 universe if they wanted to.
@@hamhockbeans Yea that's how I look at it. There's probably some Kree that are neutral or good and just want to chill out in an outpost somewhere. I don't think any race should just be labelled as bad. Heck in Star Trek you have good Klingons that work for the Star Fleet and there's evil ones too.
Even though the Skrulls were villains from their first appearance in Marvel comics, they were originally a peaceful advanced civilization that became warlike and ultimately evil after they were attacked by the Kree.
I might be off, but that 'I'm just a girl' song is no different then the ' Immigrant Song' in Thor Ragnarok
who?!
What?!Who!!?
Lol good joke
I noticed the Immigrant song more than the “I’m just a girl”. Didn’t really bother me. Funny what people complain about.
Star trek..sabotage.
Kree are the Nazis, while the Skrull are communist. Kree believe in species superiority, while Skrulls tries to infiltrate from within (analogy of the red scare).
Interesting take on this
Except Skrulls are show as the good guys here. Does that mean Captain Marvel is pro-communism?
Tia Aaron No, but ironic how this type of non-sequitur logic was used during the Red Scare to accuse others of being pro-communist.
Tia Aaron Hollywood is pro-Communist right now
@@sugreev2001 Only a fool thinks Hollywood is pro-communist. They make a movie that celebrates american military literally every year like Zero Dark Thirty, American Sniper, Dunkirk, etc and even this movie makes being an airforce pilot look like a cool thing for women but more than 50% of women in the military get raped.
The Tessaract is the MCU's one ring to rule them all.
I definitely agree that they could have kept nick fury's eyepatch origin a secret. But, in the other hand, I won't lie and agree with everyone to be "cool". I actually laughed when it turned out that he only lost his eye because a cat scratched it. I dont know, it kinda reminded me of a Simposons/Rick and Morty humor of playing with audience's expectations.
Me too! Then again, I thought it was funny when the Mandarin turned out to be some hack actor, so I know my opinions aren't popular.
I don't think it's a plot hole that Mar-Vell has the Tesseract. Howard is dead at this point, and SHEILD was still in possession of the thing.
Howard Stark was part of the Pegasus program which Dr. Lawson was part of. Stark of course had been killed by the Winter Soldier when Captain Marvel took place so its not a plot hole. I hate when someone says plot hole, just because they don't know how to add 2 plus 2.
Jude law gave her his blood that’s how she survived the blast......she was dying on the ground b4 that
I don't think Nick Fury was talking about his actual physical eye. People forget why he delivered that line. Agent Caulson had just died before that scene. And he was Furys "EYE" in the field. He reported directly to Fury and was always one of the first SHIELD agents on the scene. I think when Caulson died Fury was talking about him. Fury trusted him enough to represent him in the field. I think maybe him loosing his eye in captain Marvel isnt what that scene was about when his says he lost his good eye.
PLOT HOLES and ALL, THiS was just a NiCE SNACK before the ENDGAME DiNNER.
There were no plotholes at all. Only people who didn't pay attention to the movie. It's part of the MCU, if you don't find the answer here it must be somewhere in another movie. That's always how its been.
these days it feels like "plot hole" refers more to a lack of imagination by the audience.
Or a plot hole means everything has to be explained and we have a 3 hour movie. I really don't want that, except for Endgame.
Or more like people not paying attention and keep forgetting what happened in past movies.
Things not explained or followed up in movies is a thing and ppl are told to ignore them. You don't have to ignore them tho. Suspension of disbelief can't cover everything 😩
About the arc: this is a film about self-discovery above all else, which might not be as monumental as some other origin stories, but I think that’s what resonated with me and others. Again, understand if you don’t vibe with it, but hey. As for her powers, there are several other superhero characters (even in the MCU!) that got their powers out of convenience, so while it’s a valid critique I wouldn’t say it applies just to Carol.
Nice discussion guys!
Agreed 💯💯👏🏽👏🏽❤️I love this film :))
Sleepy Yesi agreed
Lol watch Alita. Way better self discovery story
Jon M. Lutes I plan to when it’s out on DVD or Netflix, still saving for Endgame.
The reason she got powers is because she had Marvell’s blood on her hands so when the explosion happened all that helped her absorb the power from the machines. Remember that’s what they were doing on earth splicing Cree in human DNA together you make stronger individuals. And they also explain this on agents of shield
What as shitty logic.
This movie was very accessible for those not fully invested in the MCU. Very good for a Phase 4 movie that needs to bring in new adults and a younger generation of fans.
Em E. Yeah, no. Doesn’t excuse it for being a very bland film. Marvel could’ve done so much better than this while still being “accessible”.
@@Chenso2099- Thank you for stating an opinion. Goodbye.
I agree! I went with a friend who’s only ever watched BP, Iron Man and Infinity War and she enjoyed it so much.
Phase 4 hasn't happened yet. Its been over 10 years.
@@sidjones16 - Phase 4 officially begins with "Far From Home." Regardless, Captain Marvel is a Phase 4 movie. The character has been newly introduced at the end of Phase 3 and will be one of the main protagonists/heroes within the Phase 4 continuity. Endgame may officially wrap Phase 3, but it's also the culmination of Phases 1, 2 and 3.
A movie can be many things. It isn't all black and white.
"You're applauding it for the message more than you're applauding it for being a good movie" isnt that what you did with Black Panther though? Dont get wrong, I love both movies despite their flaws, but I feel like you are attacking the flaws in this movie more so than Black Panther because Black Panther's message meant more to you
They were talking about having a black widow film being made I honestly would have liked it if he lost it in a spy film like someone betrayed him there and they had him with black widow.
BW starts filming this summer to be out next summer.
The story as it's placed in the MCU, sounds pretty good.
After Endgame I might only care about Spider-Man Far From Home and Black Panther 2. But depending on what happens in Endgame maybe I’ll get excited again.
Technically he didn’t lose his eye, he lost his sight.
Considering that AoS have been fighting Kree for 5 seasons now it would've been crazy to make them the "good" guys
True lol
As if movies care about the TV shows in MCU.
The comic version of Goose looks way scarier lol 😂
What if I told you Shazam is the real Captain Marvel
Then you’d be correct my good man 😁
What if I told you this has been said 100 times already and it has gotten old.
@Olivia Rogers Oh, I am. Every time I see this same reference over and over, and I let them know ;)
@@ashtonturner2862 you good bro?
Ah, marvel fan boy triggered by the truth. No one has ever seen that.
I agree with Christopher, there was no arc. They should have explored her fighting with the Kree and messing up because of her getting emotional instead of just glossing over it when her and Jude Law were fighting by him saying it. That would have given her somewhat of an arc when she was able to fully is her powers at the end. You can watch the Tony Starks arc in Ironman and tell exactly what this movie was missing. Good movie, could've been better.
A couple of points.
1) The SSR became SHIELD by the 80s, in Ant-man the prologue with a younger Hank Pym was in 1989, SHIELD was fully formed by that point. Even the Triskileon Building (SHIELD HQ) from Winter Soldier was midway through completion.
2) The Skrulls aren't monolithic. There's Good, Bad and Neutral factions in the comics. So nothing stops Secret Invasion from happening in the MCU.
3) It was established in Captain America: The First Avenger and Ironman 2 Howard Stark found and kept the Tesseract he also headed Project Pegasus, which Mar-Vel/Dr. Lawson was a scientist for in this film. The fucking CUBE was with PROJECT PEGASUS since 1944! By the way Project Pegasus is a subdivision of the SSR/SHIELD.
None of these are PLOTHOLES! Ya'll just looking for them.
Agreed that these are not plot holes but Nick losing his eye. Then him blaming thor for the alien being on earth are definitely plot holes and you can tell they didn't research their own universe enough
As a woman, I loved the use of "I'm Just a girl," and I felt totally empowered by the entire end of the movie! The song is meant as a jab to all of the people that held her down and told her she wasn't good enough! That, along with telling Jude Law she didn't need to prove anything to him, were the two most powerful moments in the movie for me.
For people going into this movie thinking it would be too political...they think they're gonna get hit with the right hand of feminism, then they get knocked out with a left hook of immigration they didn't see coming. I really enjoyed everything with the skrulls in this movie.
Tavarse Newman “they get knocked out with the left hook of immigration” lmao
This movie wasn’t as political as I thought it would be tbh
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Agreed. These manbabies saying the movie was all in your face preaching feminist ideology are such liars.
Nothing like that was in the film.
@Claudius Maximus valid point. i dont even think they are talking feminism as in a pro women film. i believe they are talking about hardcore feminazi man hating going on in the film and there was none of that.
The twist was poorly-executed and the shift in Talos's attitude is so random. It's so dumb how easily everyone believes him.
I think Sammy is right with the "I'm just a girl" music scene. I believe it was the point of the film. Carol Danvers has unlocked her full power. She is so powerful that the elite kree force is powerless against her. I think it fits.
Plot hole: After the Red Skull got teleported into space because he held the tesseract, the tesseract just burned a hole through the floor of his plane and fell into the ocean. Here, it can be contained in a damn tin lunchbox.
This faction of Skrulls might be good. There are other Skrulls that could be bad. The Kree has bad groups and Ronan is part of that bad group.
Wait, this movies takes place in 1995? The same year Toy Story was released? Also, that flerken needs his own movie. Overall, the movie had flaws but I had fun.
True lol
Same with Black Widow too!
I guess this movie shows us again that you dont have to deliver quality to make a load of money. Marvel Movie fans be prepared for more cheaply made and boring movies, because that's what Disney will do, when they look back to Captain Marvel.
Honestly though you're so heavily invested in the avenger movies that you have to put up with mediocrity. It's like you're reading a 10 book series and to want to see the ending. So you have to tolerate the more boring installments
19:33 You know I always liked the idea that Carol had an Inhuman gene in her or something.
19:48 Well tbf she has the same arc as Blade. He beats the fuck out of villains consistently throughout the film. It's not always a bad thing.
21:53 Fury is a spy. He aint going to disclose all the real motives of his actions.
I really don't think the way Fury lost his eye is such a big of a deal like some tried to portray it.
"We're still working on the name." That joke became inconsistent the moment they actually looked back at the history of SHIELD, which was by the time they had the show, Winter Soldier and Agent Carter. It was always a joke that was supposed to catch comic fans off-guard, having not expected "SHIELD" to be in Iron Man. Because back in 2008, it was an amazing little twist.
Exactly lol
The whole Secret Invasion storyline (which spread across all Marvel comic titles) was all about a splinter group of militant skrulls!
That could still happen.
Cause the FF(back with marvel now) would have to face them and Super Skrull.
My wife who never criticizes movies no matter how stupid made me die laughing after we watched this. When the teasers were done she looked at me and said "That's it, that was atrocious!" She's never criticized any movie I've ever watched with her.
Jordan D. Your comment is full of lies Jordan.
You didn’t die laughing because you were able to leave that comment.
You don’t have a wife.
@@oneandonlyJonnySad Calm down cupcake. I didn't hate the movie. She did, get over it.
Jordan D. I’m just playin’ 😉
Red Skull found it first, Howard recovered it, it was at SHIELD from then. Mar-vel shapeshifted as the scientist, the cube is left on the lab for 6 years. The Flerkin swallows it, spits it up years later on the desk, Fury stores it...Loki steals it.
Mar-vell didn't shapeshift.
She just used a alias.
Her weakness since childhood was that any guy taunting her would make her go berserk and almost kill herself. She never outgrows that. She just got stronger, so it didn't hurt anymore.
I thought that was weird.
She’s an extremely unlikable character. She acts like she’s better than everyone else, acts like she’s too good for this movie 🙄
@@Megatron-xs2qe I didn't feel that way. But I did think Larson was miscast. And they should've developed the character deeper.
I'm curious, have you seen the movie yet, or just the trailers and reviews?
Leonardo Harrell Just came back from seeing it (at Dolby Cinema)
@@Megatron-xs2qe. Cool! I saw it in that crazy Dolby 4D.
Seat bouncing around, shit poking into my back, air blowing in the ears. It was crazy.
Leonardo Harrell can’t say it was worth the money though
Nobody asks Chtalla/Chadwick whether he should smile more. Woman are always judged about how much they have to smile to look feminine. That talk is actually sexist.
People have been calling for Superhero fatigue since the first Avengers. As long as companies like Marvel keeps its fresh and not make 25 Iron Man sequels, we will not see fatigue.
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Before I watch this video I just wanted to say, I've watched this movie and is there even anything to spoil in this film?
The way Nick Fury was portrayed in this was my biggest problem with this movie.
Can anyone tell why the little black girl father is never shown or mentioned, didnt see him in any of the pictures, that bothered me
Hollywood. Liberal racists. All black women are evidently single mothers.
The worst part is in the books the father is integral in the girl's life and SHE is the first female Capt. Marvel.
They wanted to push the feminist agenda.
It just was strange to not see the black father and in my mind i was damn are these two women going to kiss?
I was wondering that Maria has no problem being an elite pilot and raise a child at the same time. What a shitty Mary Sue and a total disrespect to pilots in real life who are mothers.
Father's leave? Or maybe she met her husband in the military and he died? Why are idiots jumping to conclusions of feminism? Maybe they're planning to write an arc later where they reconnect or she visits his grave? You guys really just want to be angry about something and relate it to your feminist boogeyman.
Rocket and Goose buddy chemistry will be hilarious!🤣
Rocket tries to kill him in the comics... Well, when he's called Chewie.
I foresee the Black Widow movie showing Nick Fury becoming more of a badass. I liked the twist with him losing his eye to some bullshit. The best twists are the ones that you would never suspect in a million years. Like Ned Stark getting his head cut off when you assumed he was the protagonist.
That comment from Fury about Thor in Avengers 1 is actually more interesting in retrospect. They accuse him of building weapons with the Tesseract and he says it's because they found out last year that we weren't alone in the universe. But when you think about it, it's weird that they're so far along in the year since Thor became a known thing. I know SHIELD is pretty advanced for a human organization but advanced to create that sort of thing? Doesn't seem feasible. It would make more sense that he used Thor as a convenient excuse at the time since everyone knew about it and rather than law his cards all out and only complicate the situation further if he were to tell the truth.
It's probably just a plot hole but it would be interesting if it was intended to be viewed like this, lol
Does anyone notice the camera zooms in at certain points for some reason? Why?
lmao at Martin around 23:57 "What'd y'all do with my man!?"
😂😂😂😂
Not sure what people problem with the film is. It's fine, just like 90% of Marvel films. Some people like it a shit ton and maybe overhyped it to you but I dont get all the negativity surrounding the film. Solid 6.5ish, Matinee.
Reed Richards hypnotized the first Skrulls he fought into believing they were cows. He took them to a beef farm where they were slaughtered and bred and eaten by humans for 20 years.
That's why at the end he was typing up the avengers initiative because he now knows we are not alone in this universe.... how is that a plot hole...?
Finally! First off what I thought was a twist where the Secret Invasion arc was over with Skrulls beings shown as normal peaceful race. But when Talos tells his wife to cover their daughter's eyes as they escape, the girl watches her dad get shot by a Kree that looks human. Seeds are in place and I can't wait to see what happens.The 3 seconds of Carol Danvers we got from the Russo Brothers End Game credits already makes me curious too.
Plus they mentioned there are different skrull factions in the universe. Some might be violent/extremists and/or evil. 20 years can change people. That traumatic incident the daughter (might be the new Skrull queen)seeing Talos shot, he could die years later from his wound leaving her bitter or the snap might prompt the skrulls to think the kree, not knowing about thanos is behind it having them seek revenge
Them using the skrulls was always so interesting to me because in Avengers, the Skrulls were actually called Chithari in the Ultimate Marvel Universe. The MCU borrowed heavily on the ultimate universe from Fury being Black to Thor's new weapon.
I feel like people don't remember much about Nick Fury's personality in the other Marvel films. He was serious when he needed to be but he also made jokes and was a smart ass in the other films as well. It's funny how people's memories play tricks on them and they remember what they want to remember about him.
Oz is in the house physically ❗️✊🏽
Finally let him out the tv
What about Thor and how funny and goofy that was right before Infinity War?
Exactly 💯💯
Great discussion y'all. I'd give the film a matinee on y'all scale and a B on mine. Really enjoyed it. I didn't watch any trailers so I guess that helped. Good to see Oz in Human form though lmao
Y'all must heed the call to The Avengers: Endgame Trailer!!!
This movie still doesn’t create a compelling enough reason for Nick Fury wouldn’t call on Captain Marvel when the planet was being threatened in Avengers 1 & 2.
The "I'm Just A Girl" sequence was nowhere NEAR threatening; we're told ahead of time that she's merely just creating a distraction while the others escape, and seeing as how she just unlocked her OP powers, she was basically fucking with them at that point. Their threat against our heroes was over pretty much at "My Name Is Carol."
yeah its delusional to think this was going to bomb . its a marvel movie and its going to make a considerable amount of money even if it doesnt hit bp or infinity war level money . still doesnt automatically means the movie is good because of that . people have to decide that for themselves when they see it ..
I loved this film a lot man. It was a fun competent origin story and I’m definitely excited for Carol moving forward. I trust the Russos to give her more to do in Endgame. I wouldn’t say that I “gave this film a pass” as a woman, I genuinely thought this was good. I think it is important though to recognise that cultural background can influence criticism and that can’t be a bad thing. If you stand by that argument, you could say we all gave Black Panther a pass for being a “black film”.
I’m glad it did well but let’s be real it was always going to make bank 😂😂😂 The “boycotts” never stood a chance; most people have no idea about the garbage controversy surrounding this film and just wanted to see the next episode in the Marvel Cinematic Series.
Why does Annette Benning’s character need to go undercover in the army to fix the light speed engine, when she has a secret lab orbiting Earth with far superior technology than what Earth has? I thought the Kree were supposed to be way more advanced than us?
To get to the Tesseract which was in possession of SHIELD.
The movie is too lazy to explain that.
The movie's writers assumed the fans watching had enough brain cells to figure out she needed the Tesseract that the US military has instead of spelling it out explicitly.
@@supreme1572 The eleven writers behind Captain Marvel thought the audience were dumb enough to not question the necessity of light speed engine when there are freaking JUMP POINTS in use. So stupid. This movie sucks.
@@tiaaaron3278 The jump points are nothing compared to light speed travel with the space stone. She wanted to send them to the opposite side of the universe where they wouldnt be found by the Kree. Rocket and Yondu didnt even have to go that far in Guardians 2 and they had to do dangerous amounts of jumps. There's nothing wrong with the movie perhaps you just dont know about what youre talking about.
So they just hung out on the hidden lab for six years!!! That’s some domesday level prepping.
I like the whole kree skrull twist in this movie it was just like that twist in iron man 3 with the mandarin. Also the twist with Nick fury losing his eye is funny as fuck. 😂😂😂
I enjoyed Captain Marvel. I look forward to seeing more of the character in future MCU films. I have no fatigue. I want to see X-Men, Fantastic 4, and Deadpool in the MCU. Marvel is a huge universe with so many other great characters to explore. Bring it in on!
funny for some people that think this movie would be too political even if that’s the case some of the MCU movies where political i.e. Infinity war with Thanos wanting to stop overpopulation and the solution would be genocide, the first iron man a rich philanthropist selling nuclear weapons to the government then terrorists capture him to make the bombs, Captain America 1, 2 and three where all political where in the first one literally in a historical time piece where a Nazi wanted to take the world like Hitler, the second one where shield thought to be legit was infiltrated by the enemy and had more corruption in senators and other political figures, and the third one where the govt. wanted to suppress the avengers use of superhuman abilities and only use them when ever the govt. needed to. So just cause now where where a superhero women with barely any propaganda in the movie is just an origin movie I guess it’s going to be a tragedy if it was “too political” that’s some smart logic I can see why some people will hate this movie *Sarcasm*.
I was waiting for a commercial break while watching it. Felt like a tv series instead of a high end movie.
Cornell Ginger I had the exact same feeling. It felt like a movie that I would have seen in the mid 90s, which makes me think it had to be deliberate.
I got the same feeling, but I think that worked in its favour for me? It had a grounded Bourne Identity feel and that 90s backdrop definitely had something to do with it.
The Marvel name is huge and it ties into their biggest movie of all time.. stop gassing. And it was BARELY a success just like Ant-Man. Watch the box office drop off from here on out.
Tales of the Tesseract!!! LOL, but on second thought it would be exactly like the Heavy Metal anime!! :D
That... WOULD BE TOTALLY BADASS!!!
Hulk: There was no way I was gonna walk around this place with my dork hanging out!
Shazam it is then. DC is coming around with the upswing.
Corey Lucas I wouldn’t call one movie an upswing, especially when it’s not even out
You honestly think that a cartooned muscled up Jimmy Fallon looking dude has ANY potential of beating a marvel MCU movie?
Especially made by DC that has not had a good movie aside from Wonder Woman and maybe Aquaman?
I mean his fight scenes are going to be a huge CGI mess
We'll see who is the real Cap. Marvel.
UItraVice annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd SHAZAM got better reviews ACROSS THE BOARD.
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Maybe maybe...
But Shazam as a superhero still is shit.
Nothing like the comics and the movie has not even officially released yet...so you cant judge too soon....
That flerken needs his own movie.
I'm a little disappointed with how Fury lost his eye but I'm not mad and it's not a plot hole.
The SHIELD thing I always took as Coulson being sarcastic in response to what Tony said. Because the acronym is still SHIELD. So you can still call it that for short. That said, I don't think they can fit the whole name on a hat so I wouldn't be surprised by it already being called SHIELD. Not a plot hole.
And the tessaract thing idk if it's a plot hole because anything can happen between these movies and I also don't see what is plot holey about it being where it was.
What made the movie wasn't the (vague) female message, but the fact that she turned Super Saiyan. XD
Nick Fury's badass origin could be introduced in Black Widow movie... How he recruited her in SHIELD. And maybe there will be more N.Fury with a Monica R. or other Pre Iron Man shows/movies.
When it comes to Korey talking about the 55 percent of audience being guys and them being there to see how this connects to Endgame I would be willing to bet that if people knew after credits scene to endgame this movie would not have gotten the money it did. It really is just there for endgame and could easily not exist. If anything the MCU would have been better if it didnt.
I am glad this movie made a lot of money, because it means we will get another one, hopefully in the hand of someone more talented and with a clear idea of the character, and maybe, just maybe, we will get our Winter Soldier or Thor Ragnarok moment with her character as well. I can`t wait!
Yeah it’s cool that this movie is doing well in the box office because it will show Hollywood that female leads won’t hurt the box office. If a mediocre film like this can do big guns then you can’t really keep relying on the female leads don’t sell argument.
I doubt it. Boden and Fleck are incompetent af and they are here to stay and make a shitty sequel.
21:44 If you know the character Nick Fury well enough, you know that he never tells anybody everything he knows. When he said "Because Of Him" pointing to Thor, I was never under the impression that Thor was the catalyst that Sparked the Avengers initiative. Its just a reason he can give that prevents them from asking more questions. Remember, Cap was in the 1940's along with Howard Stark. The Origins of Shield start in the 1950's with Stark and Carter. the attempts to re create the Serum are the origins of Hulk.
At about 6:30 : I agree, the change didn't bother me anywhere near as much as the "Mandarin' switch, but having Skrulls be the good guys kind of kills any plans for 'Secret Invasion" (Unless they say that a splinter group of militant skrulls [Skrull Isis?] is doing the invasion).