@@dividead100 good point. But I would prefer the flat sensors. I would find it annoying placing my phone on a table for instance and the the phone wobbling. I think the technical term is "bumpy cam" 😂
I just got this phone for my birthday and I freaking love it! I don't understand the people complaining about the processing time because you don't have to sit and stare at the screen while the photo processes. You can exit out and continue taking more pictures and the processing happens in the background. The phone is very fast and crisp. I live Nokia phones and I'm glad I got this one.
Isn't it funny how slot of RUclips reviewers, so called experts trashed this phone back in March but people who bought the phone with their own money and use it long term seem to tell a radically different story! I wonder are people in the phone industry afraid of a Nokia comeback?
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v yes definitely, because other manufacturers don't even offer something close to what Nokia offers for a given price point. The reviewers want everything to be latest and not necessarily greatest , so there are people who buy a Nokia phone feels a lot different than what a reviewer says, and I'm one of them.
@@kameswaranjayakumar7470 hey. Thanks for your reply. That's wonderful to hear. I think the phone looks really cool. Just love the blue navy colour 🤤 and is so unique. The specs for the price seem outstanding. Have an HTC U11 atm. But until then, since 2002-2018 always only had Nokia's. I would like to "go home" to Nokia again lol
I wish more professional photographers had reviewed this phone when it came out. Only Mattias reviewed this before you and he loves it! Other tech reviewers wrote it off because they were either only shooting jpgs or not skilled enough to edit raw files. Nokia made it clear that this was not an average consumer device and that's why there will only be a limited production run because it was targetted towards photographers and enthusiasts.
I have this thing. Came to it as it runs pure, native Android (it came with 9, and 10 seems to be on its way). And next "Zeiss glass". And "raw". Lightroom Classic on desktop works fine with its images. What bugs me is the fingerprint sensor. I don't do very special things with it and the battery lasts a couple days. If I were checking if it still works like I see many people do everywhere today, it would last me a day. Watch 4K video continuously and it may last between 6 and 8 hours. The OLED display is great and 4K YT playback works excellently. Display dynamic range is very good. The raw images are very clean indeed (my reference: 24 mp dslr full frame and 46 mp ml full frame). What bugs me with the camera is it does not remember some of my setting choices and I need to set it to "Pro" every time. At the 500 $/€/£ price point, I recommend it to everybody. Photographically, the multi-sensor & multi-lens must be compared to a single large lens of that diameter. To solve then is perspective and superimposing the images, the advantage is you can easily determine what is noise and what not - and this will get more dynamic range. And yes, with 5 cameras it catches 5 times the light. The image processing of the raw images that combine the 5 camera shots into a 38MB file per shot takes some time. If you need to chimp, that is too long. As an old film photographer, I do not need to chimp. As a user of a camera with live view (like this phone) I also do not need to chimp. Or, many of the criticisms are hypothetical or bereft of everyday practical value, but they kill this product's viable life time. Telephone - excellent. Any messaging - excellent. Wireless internet via telco - excellent. WLAN performance - excellent. Display - excellent. Storage capacity - excellent (but no card expansion). Camera's photo images - raw, and best I have seen from any phone. Play games - no idea. Apps installed - some 20 (and minimized background activity including network for almost all of them to work only when in foreground) news apps, reference things like dictionaries, user guides and conversion tools. Video player. Music player that does its own audio processing and upsampling so the sound via AudioQuest Dragonfly Cobalt to Sennheiser HD660S is excellent and even with the USB-C to 3.5 headphone adapter it is really good. And into a DAC/headamp better than the ~~Cobalt, the sound is even better, a bit. Bluetooth interaction with a stereo pair of JBL Xtreme in the studio works excellently and Bluetooth in the car works more reliable than with my older Samsung Note. Google Maps navigation works excellently. What else?
Can this produce true DSLR like quality photos? In terms of dynamic range, color quality, detail, bokeh, and how much it can be pushed in Lightroom? Megapixels I don’t care as long as it’s indistinguishable on instagram, maybe even on a website, but nothing larger than that.
@@SteashEdits - I shoot Nikon Z 7 with Z primes. Of course, it doesn't get near that quality. I still have a D600 that is a bit better in low light than the Z 7. The phone cannot get near that too. But, with its rich raw shots, it is a lot better or professionally usable than other phones. Lightroom easily treats the shots. I avoid higher ISO settings and prefer a bit of motion blur over noise. IIRC it was Henri Cartier-Bresson who said that sharpness is such a bourgeois (petit bourgeois) concept. Not always, I'd say to him. It depends on your genre. Or use case. If I need bokeh, I'd use the Z 7. The phone has a bokeh option but I haven't tried it. I prefer the raw "Pro" profile. Try it somewhere, so you can judge for yourself. There is too much BS in SM from people dissing a lens for being 1.8 and next buying a 2.8 zoom or the 4 one as the other is too expensive for them. If you do Instagram and don't need the wwweb to be able to use your photos to fake an iris scan ... In your case, with what I already have, I'd add a Z 50 with it's almost pancake zoom. I'd still use the phone in contexts where a camera changes people's behaviour or attitude.
@@jpdj2715 hey, I strongly recommend trying the bokeh mode. there are controls built into Google Photos so you can change the focal point in post - very cool stuff
I love Nokia Phones... The best thing about Nokia that they 'Listen' to their customers... I'm sure they will work around the flaws & come up with a better version of this phone.
@@SomeUnremarkableGuy Definitely, I really liked my Nokia 7 plus but the charging port literally kept killing itself (no, it was not a faulty cable). I think it was something to do with a design flaw.
I'm one of those small percentage of people who like to see tech work in ways that a) are not expected, and b) makes it seem broken/not worth your time. When the Nokia 9 was first introduced, it wasn't the childhood Nokia fanboy inside me that perked up; it was the amateur photographer that sat up and took notice. I believe that the Nokia 9 was revolutionary; it brought methods like "using a smartphone camera to shoot in RAW format" to a whole new level than the first and earliest smartphone adopters of the RAW format. It brought computational photography into a device that could snugly fit in your hand, look sleek and stylish (and do other other stuff too!) at the same time. Best of all, it introduced the smartphone user to nearly everything that a professional grade photographer does using expensive and bulky camera equipment as well as complex photo editors and software to work on the photos post-snap, culminating in a real-to-life, eye-appealing set of photos that people appreciate. By way of working in tandem with Light as well as with Adobe (for their great photo editor Lightroom), Nokia did something that no other smartphone manufacturer would have dared to do; it gambled and produced a truly way-ahead-of-its-time smartphone camera that will most certainly shape the road towards the future for most hand-held tech these days. I'm super glad Nokia did what they did with the Nokia 9; showing the world the real capabilities of "future tech" is not easy.
"Snapdragon 845 several years old " come on. Most flagships in 2018 and half of 2019 have that. We only earlier this year got the 855 as an upgrade to the 845 so when the phone got released they didn't have anything better to work with. Hell the Pixel phones are the poster boys for computational photography and guess what the pixel 3 has ? An 845.
EXACTLY THIS. It's not Nokia's fault that this guy is reviewing the phone a year later. I think that just taking five 12mpx pic's at once and doing all the processing right away is quite the task, maybe newer processors like the 865 could perform better.
When this phone came out, if I'm not completely wrong, the 845 was still the current chipset. So it definitely is not a matter of "they put a couple of years old CPU in there." The 855 is not that much quicker either. So no, not a different ballgame. Maybe with the 865 + its far higher image processing capability could do the trick. Maybe Nokia's implementation also is just inefficient, who knows.
They delayed the release so yeah, the 855 didn't exist by the time of the planned release, but did at the actual release. They just didn't feel like moving it back to the drawing board yet again, and besides, like that smartass above me already mentioned, the performance difference isn't that gigantic.
This is actually the phone I replaced my Pixel 1 with. I got it for the camera(s) and because it is just an interesting phone. Most smartphones nowadays are just generic and boring and insanely priced (especially for us Canadians). Even after conversion to Canadian dollars, it was still cheaper than a Pixel 3. Yes, Pixel 3 would have probably been a better all-around phone but they discontinued it literally during the week I was phone shopping lol. But also, the Pixel 3 was just such a boring/uninteresting phone. I loved my Pixel 1 but even when it came out, it was already "old" looking. At least the Nokia looks different. It's not the greatest phone but its got lots of "character" haha!
How much is the Pixel 3a XL in Canada? The price has come down to $360 USD at one US retailer for the holidays. I gave one to a friend and he seems to enjoy it. Better camera than the iPhone 6s he was using. I wish I could have gotten it for myself since it's so much better than the Nokia 6.1 (2018) I bought last year for $179 USD.
I am a nokia 7310 supernova owner that works continiously everyday from the first day i bought it around 2008 and i haven't change neither its battery and i really love that company.Its successor will be something really good like this nokia 9 smartphone i think.
That's a pity about it being discontinued. I hope they don't giveup on the concept altogether. I'm not a big cellphone fan, but honestly it was getting me very interested hearing you describe it, flaws and all. Even with the slow processing, it's still smaller than any compact camera out there.
Yes but you have "same" 5 pictures that took "same" amout of light that doesn't help you with brightening. I guess it is just matter of exposure here like HDR.
@@filipsmolik2077 so does each lens have its own sensor? I guess I didn't realize that. I thought all lenses were piping to the same sensor with some internal prisming or mirrors. Perhaps thats what it is?
The best camera is the one you have with you and the fact that we always have our phones with us makes advanced cell phone cameras the best. I have the iPhone 11 and I LIVE it! As someone who shoots film this allows me to have a digital camera without carrying a digital camera.
You should not take issue with that statement man, they are not saying they gather more light than existing amount, they are saying if others gather 60%of the light, they gather 80% of the light.
An advantage having multiple sensors like this has over taking multiple images from one sensor is it could, at least in theory, apply all that computational mojo to a video and not just a still image. Doesn't sound like this particular implementation would be able to do that with the processor and battery that it has, but conceptually the ability is there.
Love this phone.... I'm no pro photographer, and I don't take loads of images....but it does take outstanding photos. Fingerprint scanner...meh, if you get used to it, it's actually not bad. Face recognition for me is excellent. Battery life - I'd you don't take many photos that day, I find it very good, better again since Android 10 turned up. Still, in this day and age, something noticeably over 4000mAh would be a better decision. Whilst image processing is slow, photos direct in apps don't use all 5 cameras so aren't a slow issue. I also love the design. I feel it is way more premium in loom and feel than it perhaps looks in video. It is horses for courses, it it is another for me which deserves to be free of a case...but being sensible, mine has been in the official clear shell since day one. I dislike notches, I like a sensible border around the screen so you can actually hold it without infringing on touch points and screen visibility. Day to day use I have no problems with performance. The 845 is a snappy CPU and no general slouch. Big shame is the lack of a micro SD card slot, for something that should always use raw for photos, that is a major oversight... I hope Nokia come out with the promised update on the hardware sometime in 2020. It deserves the 855 or 865, though given the stated reason for using the 845 was through the length of time needed to optimise it with this and the added Light processor, I suspect it may always be a CPU version behind. Given current pricing in the 9, it's an absolute steal - it's been as low as £350 in the UK, I paid £450 after it was reduced initially. It will happily serve until any updated hardware comes out.
Thanks for your comment. I have been thinking about getting this phone. Seems very underrated! I think the price for the specs and build quality is unreal!
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v Only negative at the moment is that since Android 10, the camera app is almost unusable for many people, including myself... hopefully they'll fix it soon as it's utterly unstable.
@@cristianm8691 I haven't used it for years now, ironically I've literally just got it out to check and sell, it's immaculate and in the original box :)
Mine will arrive tomorrow, gonna replace my Lumia 950, which is actually still working, but support ends by the end of the year, and so do many of the little apps on it. The 950 cam is really good, so it took me some time to find a good successor and this looked ok. I ordered it already knowing about the battery life, I would have liked the Asus zenphone 6, but the availability in my country js very poor. Not quite looking forward to the transition from WP10 OS actually, but it is what it is...
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v Hi, I am still working on recovering my Whatsapp chat history, so haven't yet done much with the phone, but I must say that I am thoroughly impressed with the finish and display quality. The latter says something, coming from a lumia 950! The phone is absolutely pleasantly light, which is also surprising coming from the 950. The cam, oh my, it is so gorgeous! I also love the flat display edges, will make it easy to apply a glass protector, and the bevels are nice. Not too small, so accidental screen touches won't be an issue. I have installed windows launcher 10 on it, to get the windows tile style back, which is SO MUCH more professional than the kindergarten stock android style. I mean, WHO ON EARTH decided to use only a fraction of the already small screen for the icons? Several of my colleagues saw it and immediately installed it too haha!
@@vincenzodigrande2070 Hi. Thanks for your reply. Yes it looks drop dead gorgeous. Had Nokia phones for years then they stop making them. 16 years, since I was a kid. Have an HTC U11 now. But it won't last forever. And was thinking of "going home" to Nokia 😊 I saw this phone back in March when it first came out. I fell in love with it. And the price has dropped too. Although even at full price still alot cheaper than other flagships. Boy am I glad you like it! RUclips reviewers so unfair to it, I imagine the software updates have improved it, another thing Nokia do, keeps it's promises and I think they give you 3 years of updates which is brilliant I like a little bezel too and adore that navy blue colour!
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v Yeah the phone feels like a flagship and looks like a flagship phone for sure! And the lack of notch is brilliant. I do feel now that the battery life is not the greatest, it makes it through the day, but when using it a lot it is not a bad idea to bring a power bank with you. I don't really mind though, as I prefer a light phone that needs more charges over a bulky phone with oversized battery. I also noticed the raw photography is pretty heavy on the processing and can take pretty long to process further in the background, but that is also not something I am too fussed about, since shooting is not compromised. And the phone is slippery like an eel. I have hardly ever experienced a phone this slippery. Even laying it down on certain seemingly flat surfaces you hardly notice the phone skating in to a certain direction! Beware! But a TPU cover is on the way... I have had several Nokia phones too, for example the Lumia 1020, and the 1520 and even a Lumia 820 for a little while. I loved the WP platform so much!! But I have installed Launcher 10 on this phone now. After trying several others like Square Home 3 and Windows Launcher 10, even Microsoft Launcher, none really spoke to me, but Launcher 10 is simple to set up and has the best of both platforms in many ways (but not all).
@@vincenzodigrande2070 thanks for your reply. Yes I think the Nokia is so unique looking and strikingly beautiful. The specs are brilliant for the price. I don't have the phone. Yet... But lucky I have been looking at cases. Can't seem to find that many. But I have found some. On Amazon. I like wallet cases. I think they offer the best protection. And I would like a lovely navy blue one 😊. How are you finding the fingerprint sensor?
Nokia has 7 Camera? 1) Normal 2) Wide 3) Ultra Wide 4) Ultra Zoom 5) IR Camera / Filter Chroma 6) Night Vision Camera 7) and FLIR Thermal I hope somebody can make something like this.
Have Nokia implemented the option for 25 FPS in video? Not to mention other frame rates. Or at least made sure the hardware and software are not preventing third party apps from implementing other frame rates than 30 FPS and variations. Because 25fps is used by half the planet. And 24 is the standard film rate.
No current phone procesor would make a significant dent in the processing time but a larger battery would be nice. Also it was probably in development for a long time hence the "dated" hardware.
And if they don't talk about apple them they say Samsung is the best. What !! Same with kfc and Starbucks and Walmart and so on. Its a country dominated and controlled by corporations. Citizens don't have rift of choice there. They can't get best technology, best furniture, best clothes and most importantly they only get sad food.
I've got it for half a year now and it's been the best phone I've had for years. I hate the bloat that many manufacturers put to their UI's. Also the camera is great it's a pity that people don't pay attention to the photos they are taking.
Good stuff I don't own the phone but have a big soft spot for Nokia! Nostalgia😂. It's at a good price here in the UK. I love the blue navy colour and the design. Looks classy. After so many negative reviews glad to hear you are enjoying it 🙂
To be fair, at the time the phone came out the SD 845 was only a year old. Sure it wasn't the flagship chip anymore, but Nokia probably had to use that chip to keep costs down and the phone somewhat appealing to customers, especially considering it might've been experimental. Either way, I'm hoping for a second generation to see what they can improve and innovate now that triple camera trend is the norm.
I have it and some of the images I take are fantastic! It just feels a little unrefined and I hope to see a sequel. Hope Nokia didn't give up on imaging! Question: could these effects be achieved with one large image sensor! Nokia 808? Thanks for the video (-:
5:33 You actually can gather more light with more lenses. You mean you will have same amount of light in a room with one window as compared to a room with few same sized windows?? This is not how lenses work...
@@theartofphotography But coputation algorithms stitches all pictures into one. Isn't that same as having multiple lenses for same picture which is equal to more light for same picture? I imagine sensor as person's eyes. And that person is in the room with multiple windows. So sensor should get more light. Maybe I'm just missing a point here. Cool video btw.
I bought mine in march and I've been pretty happy with it. The dynamic range is out of this world. I do wish for a longer focal length, when I'm using my camera I tend to favor my 85 more than anything. My biggest gripe with the quality of the photos is actually a result of the full spectrum lenses, at least I think it is. In areas of high contrast that are really busy, say a lot of tree branches or stones, the photos appear grossly oversharpened. I think it's just the nature of the light gathering without a color filter being incorporated into a color image. It's a really interesting concept that I hope I see more of.
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v I love it! It's also a great convo starter. It turns the conversation towards photography, then I get a chance to plug myself haha All of the normal phone things it does just fine. has enough battery to get a normal person through a day, although with heavy music streaming over bluetooth coupled with normal use mine has been limited to a work day.
@@mauvrion_fries thanks Shane for replying. That's great feedback. Especially from someone using the phone long term and buying it with their own money! I have an HTC U11. But it won't last forever and HTC seem to be finished making phones. I always had Nokia's in the past, since 2002. Nostalgia also. I have been keeping my eye on the Pureview since March. I think it looks absolutely stunning. I love the navy blue colour🤤 And now it's come down in price alot. So really tempted by it bigtime 😁 I take it the software updates have improved the fingerprint sensor. But you always have the psscode anyhow so not a deal breaker for me. But then I do really love Nokia! Happy New Year!
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v the updates have helped tremendously. Nokia is really good about sending out consistent bug patches and stuff. Having said that, the fingerprint reader is still garbage. I use my pattern to unlock every time now, and use my fingerprint to log into finance apps. It still doesn't work consistently and sometimes I get locked out of the fingerprint code and need to login with my passwords. That is the biggest pain in the butt with it, that can't be understated. But it's also not a big deal at the same time. I love this phone! Still going strong.
@@mauvrion_fries is it true they send updates for three years? Nokia seem to treat their customers well. Maybe it's time for me to "go home" haha. I just fell in love with it when I first saw it lol. People complain about the bezel! But I like that, surely easier to hold when watching in landscape mode and taking photos. Like those specs for 345 pounds where I live in Northern Ireland. Compared to the pixel 4! It's ridiculous! I think I could live with that fingerprint scanner OK. I am not a super heavy user anyhow. Don't play any games which has to help me with battery life
5:45 you are right but only on one condition, that from the quantum mechanics point of of view cameras are the same, which is not possible from the qm point of view. In all (infinity?) other cases every aditional picture will decrease the noise.
Really loved the phone but at the moment I have difficulties caring about it.. Ive literally had the phone for 4 months, and im getting my 2nd replacement phone in 1-2 weeks. So basically Ive now had 2 faulty Nokia 9's and now Ive got to wait before getting 3rd. Honestly would just love to switch phone at this point..
5:35 you didn't understand them. They didn't say that the device captures more light than the one that's available they have said that the device collects more light compared to other device.
It's important : yes, it gathers "more light" because the amount of light gathered is a relation of surface area, per unit of time, per unit of aperture per unit of wavelengths. If you have a number of the same camera firing together you indeed gather more light (quantity); afterward combining gathered data enable reducing noise. If you are in a low light situation and you are able to gather infrared light, you gather more light also (quality) because you access a domain where your subject is more illuminated. Another way of looking at this is the sensor area, and the total aperture : you get the equivelent of a bigger sensor with a wider aperture. Because light gathering works more logarithmically than linearly, you need 10x to get 2x, but in this nokia you get a little of both physical size power and wavelengths power. Ask an astrophotographer about wavelengths and he will show you the power of those.
5 cameras that each one takes 4 pictures of 12mp. So you have 5 * 4 * 12 = 240mp of data each time you press the button. Thats why it takes longer to process. Maybe a snapdragon 865 can do it in real time.
Phones are becoming really good for photography. I made a jump from Iphone 7 to 11 and omg i never had so much fun and trust in a phone camera. My DSLR is starting to colect dust..
Anyone watching on their iPhones 📱? I miss the Nokia e-series, n-series 😭! Touchscreens phones are overrated these days forgot about the multiple cameras🤦🏻♂️
What about BlackBerry Key2 or Key2 le? If you want something different. To stand out from the crowd! Everybody seems to have iPhone but I don't. There must be something special about them
AS an owner of this phone, I am positively impressed with the camera and processing power for games. Also it can shoot pictures in complete dark environment. Switch to the pro mode and set ISO to 6400 and shutter speed to 1 or 2 sec. and it will make a reasonably good color picture even in a pitch black room.
I saw pictures of this last year and I thought it was a prototype that never released, because I’ve never seen any tech RUclipsr talk about it until now. Normally all tech reviewers flood my feed whenever any new innovative phone is on the market. It’s quite a bummer that nobody even gave this phone a shot or even talked about it. There are plenty of phones that get lots of publicity despite their shortcomings such as the pixel 4 and red hydrogen. Judging from the few pictures I’ve seen, they look quite amazing. Better than my iPhone Xs Max. They have kinda a Leica dslr quality or something to it. But I have no idea to what extent you’ve gone to take those pictures and what special conditions you were in.
This is the first video I didn't feel like I needed to fast forward. I have the Nokia 9 and its a great phone. The hardware is nice and the Android One program keeps it updated. The fingerprint sensor needs to be re-calibrated often and the flashlight wont work if you use the face unlock. I think the cameras have a lot of potential. 5 cameras does take a lot of processing power. It does take a moment to render but The pictures are great and videos are good enough. Much better than paying double price or more for an Iphone in my opinion. I got mine on sale fore $400.
@No Idols I tried an Adobe app called capture or something but it crashed. The pureview is slim and a little less durable feeling than the ones with metal sides. Those things were indestructible with a screen protector. Not as pretty but I mostly just look at the screen and the pixels per inch. Color accuracy, latency and refresh rate seem good and gaming performance is more than adequate. I don't care about the parts of my phone that others see. I'm not trying to impress anyone. It just needs a good screen and camera paired with the right software and hardware. Have you heard of photogrammetry? I think this camera would be better for it because of the spider eye design. I don't know enough about it all. I know Amazon was able to make 3d images with similar hardware on Android.
I have only just purchased the Nokia 9 Pure View, really for its still photography. I am late considering its been out quite a while. I have had professional level DSLR, mirroless camera.before and I still have one. I am not a professional, but an enthusiast, my knowledge of photography is adequate, but not extensive. I was looking for something light to carry I'm my pocket, but at the same time, does not take a massive performance hit. I am to tell, this is the finest smartphone camera I have ever used, and not by a small margin either. I have several smartphones, and I have what many people call the king of smartphone cameras now, Huwai P40 Pro, which is the second best camera on any smartphone I have used. Back to the Nokia 9 Pure View, I am in awe of it's capability. Purely as a smartphone, it's other features, I don't think it's in the race, hence my purchase of the Huwai P40 Pro. And I acknowledge that it's processing of images is slow, buggy type of camera app, and for outdoor night photography their are better options. And I realize this is not for your average smartphone user, who is neither a professional or enthusiast, better options for them too. But looking purely from a point of view of photography, hard core photographers, who are willing to use its settings to its full potential, and are okay with post processing on the phone, or better still on your computer in Photoshop, Lightroom or any other software, this is a no brainer. The images this camera produces, it's dynamic range, the way it keeps a lot of information in its shadows and highlights is really impressive. I have had a medium format digital camera, sometimes I feel it even edges past that. I am no way saying it compares with full frame, or medium format camera, with their high quality sensors, lenses and the ability to actually change the aperture. But for a smartphone, this is beyond my expectations, it's beautiful. And the ability to take good quality Raw images, and truly actual monochromatic images in the raw format, due to its triple monochromatic sensors! I think apart from the Leica Monochrome professional camera, I don't think there is a another digital camera with this ability, even among dedicated high end cameras. But to have this in a smartphone is impressive. I really hope Nokia releases the next version of this smartphone, updated and all the places were this falls short improved, whilst keeping the same photography concept of this camera, several sensors working together for jaw dropping results, and I hope the dedicated monochromatic sensors, with the ability to shoot black and white photos in Raw and Jpeg remain. Nokia, you really have something to be proud of, I would really like to see an improved version of this soon.
I’ve got an iPhone 11 Pro and (unsurprisingly, really) when I switch between the cameras and am close to an object (even like 30cm), there’s a visible shift in perspective. It’s even more apparent when zooming in video mode. Similarly, the portrait mode works less well in close range because of the parallax. So I like what Nokia has tried here but I’m skeptical how good the results are for anything close and maybe even mid range. My suspicion is if the parallax effect becomes too huge, the phone will reduce the number of sensors it uses to maybe even just one.
Hi. On the beginning I do apologise for my "English" For me it's not real Nokia anymore, and I think that new owner is riding on great name what Nokia made. Phone is embarrassment for brand name and camera it's... Nonsense... I'm sorry but its my opinion.
Hi Ted, recently you reviewed the new Sony Xperia 1/5 with the Cinema Pro app on it. With what software did u edit the files? There is no software on the phone pre installed isn't there? Greetings from the Netherlands.
It is really interesting. Hopefully they make another attempt in the future. I noticed it a while back, but like you said reports I saw of slow processing made it sound unappealing with how much I normally spend on phones ($200). Maybe if it ever hits bargain basement prices I'll pick one up to mess around with. I've also been looking for a phone with a really good selfie camera to use for b-roll/vlogging while outdoors. The ASUS with a flip forward main camera is pretty nice looking.
When Nokia first "returned" a few years back, I was seriously impressed with their offerings. Then, they started going down the road of ugly (they all are) Camera Bumps + notches! 😴 So, I was pleased to see this when it came out. I'm really not that fussed if a phone has a "head/chin," my cheapo Sony has both and I much prefer it..and I'm loving the flush camera(s) on the back of this phone. I hope they come up with something just as interesting (and affordable) hopefully, with better Face Unlock, or a better Fingerprint Reader in 2020!
This looks like a really promising phone. I'm pretty happy with my Note 8 for general phone stuff and random snaps, but I'd never rely on it as a primary pocket camera. The Light design could be great in a more powerful phone. Would be fun to okay with if I could find one.
interesting technology and review. You mentioned that the model doesn't have " night sight/ mode." However, it's very easy to import the Google Camera App from developers' sites. Since this phone is running Android 10, there shouldn't be any problems because the app is optimized for Android 9. My Samsung S7 only has 8 but still there's a night mode; it just doesn't run the full-bore night sight feature. I wonder how images would look via Google camera coupled with those 5 lenses.
I do think that it’s fair to say that it gathers more photons of light in the multiple sensors than only one would gather, and when combining them it can do things like increase dynamic range and decrease noise. Of course this could also be done with a larger aperture, larger sensor, longer exposure or multiple successive exposures combined.
The most underrated camera phone , truly magnificent images , I think people have been used to limitations on phone cameras so just weren't ready for a phone with such incredible photo capabilities , interesting that the phone costs more to buy used than the prices it was sold extensively at discount originally.
My son got one 9PV back in June 2019, and has it. loves it even today. Doesn't plan to give away. I got one for myself a few days ago for 150 EUR, in mint condition with box and everything. Astonishing photos. I will take a lot of monochrome pictures as well. I really love the POLED display, indoors at 1/5 brightness, and outdoors in bright sunlight it can go higher and it is easy to read. The blacks and colours of the display are good too.
I've always had iPhones but I've had 2 Android phones in my life. One of those was the Nokia 8, and based on my limited experience with Android, I can say that Nokia rules...
also scientifically they can gather more light ! received light at each sensor is limited to the sensor area and the lens, and when u have more lens and sensors, therefore you have more light that you can process for the final image.
What exactly do you mean when you say that you can't capture more light with more cameras? To me it seems abvious that you should be able to capture more light. I mean is won't be the same light photons hitting lens A as lens B. And I guess that the most light photons you capture the less grainy the picture will be.
I got one of these a few months ago on sale for $399 and I really like it. I have taken some stunning photos with it. Most of the time the jpegs right out of the phone look great. Once in a while i grab the raw file for some post processing in my PC. My fingerprint sensor works almost every time. It did not, however, work at all when a tried a screen protector. It’s my first high end phone soI really can’t compare it to other flagships but for the price I paid I don’t think there is a better phone for the photo buff. I am not a obsessive phone watcher either. I get 2 to 3 days of battery life with it mostly sitting around.
@No Idols Apparently you get a mobile copy of Lightroom with the phone. I have the Adobe subscription so i had it anyway. I cant see doing any real editing on a tiny phone screen. Maybe adjust exposure or contrast or something simple like that.
Very fair review. In the beginning I was about to change my mind and buy Nokia 9 Purview, to test it for Mt personal needs. At the end I confirmed all my (and widely known) doubts about this unique smartphone...
i had the phone for few months - camera is awosme when it is - brutely bad when its not , black and white is amazing ....phone is leggy and the back shuttered very quickly ...all in all really nice idea , and I enjoyed for a while but quality is shakey at its best ...
Mobile phone cameras are limited by the small lens size and the sensors in them are tiny so the pixels are bunched together and absorb little light. The probably shoot jpeg so processing is being added unless you can shoot raw but compare images to a DSLR camera and there is no competition, the DSLR will destroy it
This is the right way to do it. Other way it's not practical the phone must be steady no subject movement so it's limited. I hope nokia doesn't give up and release the sec version more refined with the right spec.
Still using my nokia 9 on the side. The TRUE B&W lenses actually rival my Leica Monochrom camera. The pureview 9 is worth it for the B&W photography ALONE! People are still blown away by the b&w ive shot on that phone.
I literally paused the video to give him little rest
😅😅😅
You are the great saviour.
Biggest mistake is reading this comment before watching the video
Lol
If was too slow you’d ditch him just the same.
Lets just take a moment to admire that Nokia has 5 cameras and all of them are flush with the device not sticking out like everything else.
It's so unique. I think it's great to be different and to stand out from the crowd!
Small sensors don't need a camera bump, everything else sticks out because the sensors are bigger and better, no one would do it if it wasn't needed.
@@dividead100 good point. But I would prefer the flat sensors. I would find it annoying placing my phone on a table for instance and the the phone wobbling. I think the technical term is "bumpy cam" 😂
Bumpy cam is fine, just a simple kind reminder to tell user to use the iPhone case most of the time.
@@JimmyGunawanX lol I get your point. But not everybody has an iPhone. And I personally just would find bumpy cam very very frustrating
I just got this phone for my birthday and I freaking love it! I don't understand the people complaining about the processing time because you don't have to sit and stare at the screen while the photo processes. You can exit out and continue taking more pictures and the processing happens in the background. The phone is very fast and crisp. I live Nokia phones and I'm glad I got this one.
Happy Birthday ;-)
@@theartofphotography Have u compared the cam with any other flagships? Also hows the battery life and any heating issues?
Isn't it funny how slot of RUclips reviewers, so called experts trashed this phone back in March but people who bought the phone with their own money and use it long term seem to tell a radically different story! I wonder are people in the phone industry afraid of a Nokia comeback?
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v yes definitely, because other manufacturers don't even offer something close to what Nokia offers for a given price point. The reviewers want everything to be latest and not necessarily greatest , so there are people who buy a Nokia phone feels a lot different than what a reviewer says, and I'm one of them.
@@kameswaranjayakumar7470 hey. Thanks for your reply. That's wonderful to hear. I think the phone looks really cool. Just love the blue navy colour 🤤 and is so unique. The specs for the price seem outstanding. Have an HTC U11 atm. But until then, since 2002-2018 always only had Nokia's. I would like to "go home" to Nokia again lol
Im amazed by how u can talk Non Stop..
My throat would be sore. And I would need a glass of water to drink. But I guess if you are used to it...... it's fine
Haha, i literally checked playback speed 😛
Editing is a thing. Short attention spans are a thing. *Inhales* butt face
Francisco Bocanegra all his videos are done in a few takes/cuts.
And how he really speaks from his head... no reading. :D
I wish more professional photographers had reviewed this phone when it came out. Only Mattias reviewed this before you and he loves it! Other tech reviewers wrote it off because they were either only shooting jpgs or not skilled enough to edit raw files. Nokia made it clear that this was not an average consumer device and that's why there will only be a limited production run because it was targetted towards photographers and enthusiasts.
I have this thing. Came to it as it runs pure, native Android (it came with 9, and 10 seems to be on its way). And next "Zeiss glass". And "raw". Lightroom Classic on desktop works fine with its images. What bugs me is the fingerprint sensor. I don't do very special things with it and the battery lasts a couple days. If I were checking if it still works like I see many people do everywhere today, it would last me a day. Watch 4K video continuously and it may last between 6 and 8 hours. The OLED display is great and 4K YT playback works excellently. Display dynamic range is very good. The raw images are very clean indeed (my reference: 24 mp dslr full frame and 46 mp ml full frame). What bugs me with the camera is it does not remember some of my setting choices and I need to set it to "Pro" every time. At the 500 $/€/£ price point, I recommend it to everybody. Photographically, the multi-sensor & multi-lens must be compared to a single large lens of that diameter. To solve then is perspective and superimposing the images, the advantage is you can easily determine what is noise and what not - and this will get more dynamic range. And yes, with 5 cameras it catches 5 times the light.
The image processing of the raw images that combine the 5 camera shots into a 38MB file per shot takes some time. If you need to chimp, that is too long. As an old film photographer, I do not need to chimp. As a user of a camera with live view (like this phone) I also do not need to chimp. Or, many of the criticisms are hypothetical or bereft of everyday practical value, but they kill this product's viable life time. Telephone - excellent. Any messaging - excellent. Wireless internet via telco - excellent. WLAN performance - excellent. Display - excellent. Storage capacity - excellent (but no card expansion). Camera's photo images - raw, and best I have seen from any phone. Play games - no idea. Apps installed - some 20 (and minimized background activity including network for almost all of them to work only when in foreground) news apps, reference things like dictionaries, user guides and conversion tools. Video player. Music player that does its own audio processing and upsampling so the sound via AudioQuest Dragonfly Cobalt to Sennheiser HD660S is excellent and even with the USB-C to 3.5 headphone adapter it is really good. And into a DAC/headamp better than the ~~Cobalt, the sound is even better, a bit. Bluetooth interaction with a stereo pair of JBL Xtreme in the studio works excellently and Bluetooth in the car works more reliable than with my older Samsung Note. Google Maps navigation works excellently. What else?
JP dJ £280 now
Can this produce true DSLR like quality photos? In terms of dynamic range, color quality, detail, bokeh, and how much it can be pushed in Lightroom? Megapixels I don’t care as long as it’s indistinguishable on instagram, maybe even on a website, but nothing larger than that.
@@SteashEdits - I shoot Nikon Z 7 with Z primes. Of course, it doesn't get near that quality. I still have a D600 that is a bit better in low light than the Z 7. The phone cannot get near that too. But, with its rich raw shots, it is a lot better or professionally usable than other phones. Lightroom easily treats the shots.
I avoid higher ISO settings and prefer a bit of motion blur over noise.
IIRC it was Henri Cartier-Bresson who said that sharpness is such a bourgeois (petit bourgeois) concept. Not always, I'd say to him. It depends on your genre. Or use case. If I need bokeh, I'd use the Z 7. The phone has a bokeh option but I haven't tried it. I prefer the raw "Pro" profile. Try it somewhere, so you can judge for yourself. There is too much BS in SM from people dissing a lens for being 1.8 and next buying a 2.8 zoom or the 4 one as the other is too expensive for them. If you do Instagram and don't need the wwweb to be able to use your photos to fake an iris scan ... In your case, with what I already have, I'd add a Z 50 with it's almost pancake zoom. I'd still use the phone in contexts where a camera changes people's behaviour or attitude.
@@jpdj2715 what about if you just committed suicide instead? What is your advice on that?
@@jpdj2715 hey, I strongly recommend trying the bokeh mode. there are controls built into
Google Photos so you can change the focal point in post - very cool stuff
If the rumors are true, Nokia is working on a second generation Nokia 9 with Snapdragon 865 and it should come out sometime in fall
Yes I heard that. It should be good
Right bro
Coming out in the autumn/fall so we have a long time to wait. Nokia have confirmed this
Right
I love Nokia Phones... The best thing about Nokia that they 'Listen' to their customers... I'm sure they will work around the flaws & come up with a better version of this phone.
They are all I knew between 2002 and 2018. But I would love to "go home" and now this phone has dropped in price. I am super tempted
Nokia Corporation does. HMD Global does not.
@@jhnadrn07 people talking nonsense on youtube as usual. i have tons of problems on my 7 plus, some of them are or were from android oreo.
@@SomeUnremarkableGuy Definitely, I really liked my Nokia 7 plus but the charging port literally kept killing itself (no, it was not a faulty cable). I think it was something to do with a design flaw.
@@SomeUnremarkableGuy like nokia 8, crappy camera software with all the promises to fix it but never happened.
I'm one of those small percentage of people who like to see tech work in ways that a) are not expected, and b) makes it seem broken/not worth your time. When the Nokia 9 was first introduced, it wasn't the childhood Nokia fanboy inside me that perked up; it was the amateur photographer that sat up and took notice.
I believe that the Nokia 9 was revolutionary; it brought methods like "using a smartphone camera to shoot in RAW format" to a whole new level than the first and earliest smartphone adopters of the RAW format. It brought computational photography into a device that could snugly fit in your hand, look sleek and stylish (and do other other stuff too!) at the same time.
Best of all, it introduced the smartphone user to nearly everything that a professional grade photographer does using expensive and bulky camera equipment as well as complex photo editors and software to work on the photos post-snap, culminating in a real-to-life, eye-appealing set of photos that people appreciate. By way of working in tandem with Light as well as with Adobe (for their great photo editor Lightroom), Nokia did something that no other smartphone manufacturer would have dared to do; it gambled and produced a truly way-ahead-of-its-time smartphone camera that will most certainly shape the road towards the future for most hand-held tech these days.
I'm super glad Nokia did what they did with the Nokia 9; showing the world the real capabilities of "future tech" is not easy.
I deal with you, Nokia 9 Pure View is the best camera phone for color reproduction and sharp
It looks amazing. Nice natural photos. I hate saturation
It's good. But definitely over processed like the norm. Not sharp because of natural fine detail. And yes colors are pleasing but not the most natural
@@jackskellington6sic6 yes, the color too saturated, too much over processing
@@jackskellington6sic6 RAW?
@@vkh2k6 Even Raw files don't mean it's going to be the most accurate colors or best detail. Combining 12mp photos are still 12 mp in most ways
"Snapdragon 845 several years old " come on. Most flagships in 2018 and half of 2019 have that. We only earlier this year got the 855 as an upgrade to the 845 so when the phone got released they didn't have anything better to work with. Hell the Pixel phones are the poster boys for computational photography and guess what the pixel 3 has ? An 845.
Yeah, he forgot he was reviewing a phone that was designed last year and released at the beginning of this year.
EXACTLY THIS. It's not Nokia's fault that this guy is reviewing the phone a year later. I think that just taking five 12mpx pic's at once and doing all the processing right away is quite the task, maybe newer processors like the 865 could perform better.
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But the amount of information to be processed here is way more than the pixel devices.
When this phone came out, if I'm not completely wrong, the 845 was still the current chipset. So it definitely is not a matter of "they put a couple of years old CPU in there." The 855 is not that much quicker either. So no, not a different ballgame. Maybe with the 865 + its far higher image processing capability could do the trick. Maybe Nokia's implementation also is just inefficient, who knows.
Yeah but it came out in February 2019 in the US. 855 was already out by then
They delayed the release so yeah, the 855 didn't exist by the time of the planned release, but did at the actual release. They just didn't feel like moving it back to the drawing board yet again, and besides, like that smartass above me already mentioned, the performance difference isn't that gigantic.
Since 1996 that I bought my first cellphone, they have all been Nokia. My Nokia 5 is ready to be replaced and the 9 looks like a good choice for me.
I also had a Nokia 5 and now I bought a Nokia 9 in january (from Amazom in the UK, really good price). I really like the N9.
This is actually the phone I replaced my Pixel 1 with. I got it for the camera(s) and because it is just an interesting phone. Most smartphones nowadays are just generic and boring and insanely priced (especially for us Canadians). Even after conversion to Canadian dollars, it was still cheaper than a Pixel 3. Yes, Pixel 3 would have probably been a better all-around phone but they discontinued it literally during the week I was phone shopping lol. But also, the Pixel 3 was just such a boring/uninteresting phone. I loved my Pixel 1 but even when it came out, it was already "old" looking. At least the Nokia looks different. It's not the greatest phone but its got lots of "character" haha!
How much is the Pixel 3a XL in Canada? The price has come down to $360 USD at one US retailer for the holidays. I gave one to a friend and he seems to enjoy it. Better camera than the iPhone 6s he was using. I wish I could have gotten it for myself since it's so much better than the Nokia 6.1 (2018) I bought last year for $179 USD.
Omg i thought I might be the only one with Nokia 9 in Canada 😂
It's good you like to be different. I think this phone looks amazing. Very interesting. Price is right too
I am a nokia 7310 supernova owner that works continiously everyday from the first day i bought it around 2008 and i haven't change neither its battery and i really love that company.Its successor will be something really good like this nokia 9 smartphone i think.
Skip to 2:55. The video doesn't start until the 3 minute mark!
Hope they return with an update: sounds like a good setup for high dynamic range, monochrome, 3D and IR photography!
They are, but the next one, Nokia 9.1 Pureview, has been pushed to Q2 2020: www.androidauthority.com/nokia-9-1-pureview-release-date-1044791/
That's a pity about it being discontinued. I hope they don't giveup on the concept altogether.
I'm not a big cellphone fan, but honestly it was getting me very interested hearing you describe it, flaws and all. Even with the slow processing, it's still smaller than any compact camera out there.
You can gather more light into a device when light is restricted by a hole and lens. More lenses, more holes, more light...
Yes but you have "same" 5 pictures that took "same" amout of light that doesn't help you with brightening. I guess it is just matter of exposure here like HDR.
@@filipsmolik2077 so does each lens have its own sensor? I guess I didn't realize that. I thought all lenses were piping to the same sensor with some internal prisming or mirrors. Perhaps thats what it is?
Exactly there are 5 sensors each 12Mpx . He mentioned them in video. Look at DSLR cameras It would be impossible to have mirrors inside I think.
@@filipsmolik2077 Yes, you are right, I remember now that you mentioned 12mp each. Mirrors not impossible, but thicker :-) can also use fiber optics.
Light gathering is based off of pixel pitch not HDR bracketing.
I owned my Nokia 9 since March, still use it. AMA
@Father Ted 185cm and *l a s a g a*
They're available for pretty cheap too. Around the holidays I found them a few places for ~350$
The best camera is the one you have with you and the fact that we always have our phones with us makes advanced cell phone cameras the best. I have the iPhone 11 and I LIVE it! As someone who shoots film this allows me to have a digital camera without carrying a digital camera.
you can use whatsapp camera to take pic and send to friend. dont wait for processing. processing is for pro pics.
You should not take issue with that statement man, they are not saying they gather more light than existing amount, they are saying if others gather 60%of the light, they gather 80% of the light.
An advantage having multiple sensors like this has over taking multiple images from one sensor is it could, at least in theory, apply all that computational mojo to a video and not just a still image. Doesn't sound like this particular implementation would be able to do that with the processor and battery that it has, but conceptually the ability is there.
I love the blue colour. And the design. Looks fresh, unique and different. Nice job Nokia 👍
Love this phone.... I'm no pro photographer, and I don't take loads of images....but it does take outstanding photos.
Fingerprint scanner...meh, if you get used to it, it's actually not bad. Face recognition for me is excellent.
Battery life - I'd you don't take many photos that day, I find it very good, better again since Android 10 turned up. Still, in this day and age, something noticeably over 4000mAh would be a better decision.
Whilst image processing is slow, photos direct in apps don't use all 5 cameras so aren't a slow issue.
I also love the design. I feel it is way more premium in loom and feel than it perhaps looks in video. It is horses for courses, it it is another for me which deserves to be free of a case...but being sensible, mine has been in the official clear shell since day one. I dislike notches, I like a sensible border around the screen so you can actually hold it without infringing on touch points and screen visibility.
Day to day use I have no problems with performance. The 845 is a snappy CPU and no general slouch. Big shame is the lack of a micro SD card slot, for something that should always use raw for photos, that is a major oversight...
I hope Nokia come out with the promised update on the hardware sometime in 2020. It deserves the 855 or 865, though given the stated reason for using the 845 was through the length of time needed to optimise it with this and the added Light processor, I suspect it may always be a CPU version behind.
Given current pricing in the 9, it's an absolute steal - it's been as low as £350 in the UK, I paid £450 after it was reduced initially. It will happily serve until any updated hardware comes out.
Thanks for your comment. I have been thinking about getting this phone. Seems very underrated! I think the price for the specs and build quality is unreal!
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v Only negative at the moment is that since Android 10, the camera app is almost unusable for many people, including myself... hopefully they'll fix it soon as it's utterly unstable.
@@chriswilcox8977 oh dear. Sorry to hear that. Yeah I really hope they get it sorted soon.
No updates to Android, however the camera now seems much better....
@@cristianm8691 I haven't used it for years now, ironically I've literally just got it out to check and sell, it's immaculate and in the original box :)
Mine will arrive tomorrow, gonna replace my Lumia 950, which is actually still working, but support ends by the end of the year, and so do many of the little apps on it. The 950 cam is really good, so it took me some time to find a good successor and this looked ok. I ordered it already knowing about the battery life, I would have liked the Asus zenphone 6, but the availability in my country js very poor. Not quite looking forward to the transition from WP10 OS actually, but it is what it is...
Hi. How are you finding the phone? Early first impressions? I am seriously considering buying this phone
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v Hi, I am still working on recovering my Whatsapp chat history, so haven't yet done much with the phone, but I must say that I am thoroughly impressed with the finish and display quality. The latter says something, coming from a lumia 950! The phone is absolutely pleasantly light, which is also surprising coming from the 950. The cam, oh my, it is so gorgeous! I also love the flat display edges, will make it easy to apply a glass protector, and the bevels are nice. Not too small, so accidental screen touches won't be an issue. I have installed windows launcher 10 on it, to get the windows tile style back, which is SO MUCH more professional than the kindergarten stock android style. I mean, WHO ON EARTH decided to use only a fraction of the already small screen for the icons? Several of my colleagues saw it and immediately installed it too haha!
@@vincenzodigrande2070 Hi. Thanks for your reply. Yes it looks drop dead gorgeous. Had Nokia phones for years then they stop making them. 16 years, since I was a kid. Have an HTC U11 now. But it won't last forever. And was thinking of "going home" to Nokia 😊 I saw this phone back in March when it first came out. I fell in love with it. And the price has dropped too. Although even at full price still alot cheaper than other flagships. Boy am I glad you like it! RUclips reviewers so unfair to it, I imagine the software updates have improved it, another thing Nokia do, keeps it's promises and I think they give you 3 years of updates which is brilliant I like a little bezel too and adore that navy blue colour!
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v Yeah the phone feels like a flagship and looks like a flagship phone for sure! And the lack of notch is brilliant. I do feel now that the battery life is not the greatest, it makes it through the day, but when using it a lot it is not a bad idea to bring a power bank with you. I don't really mind though, as I prefer a light phone that needs more charges over a bulky phone with oversized battery. I also noticed the raw photography is pretty heavy on the processing and can take pretty long to process further in the background, but that is also not something I am too fussed about, since shooting is not compromised. And the phone is slippery like an eel. I have hardly ever experienced a phone this slippery. Even laying it down on certain seemingly flat surfaces you hardly notice the phone skating in to a certain direction! Beware! But a TPU cover is on the way... I have had several Nokia phones too, for example the Lumia 1020, and the 1520 and even a Lumia 820 for a little while. I loved the WP platform so much!! But I have installed Launcher 10 on this phone now. After trying several others like Square Home 3 and Windows Launcher 10, even Microsoft Launcher, none really spoke to me, but Launcher 10 is simple to set up and has the best of both platforms in many ways (but not all).
@@vincenzodigrande2070 thanks for your reply. Yes I think the Nokia is so unique looking and strikingly beautiful. The specs are brilliant for the price. I don't have the phone. Yet... But lucky I have been looking at cases. Can't seem to find that many. But I have found some. On Amazon. I like wallet cases. I think they offer the best protection. And I would like a lovely navy blue one 😊. How are you finding the fingerprint sensor?
Nokia has 7 Camera?
1) Normal
2) Wide
3) Ultra Wide
4) Ultra Zoom
5) IR Camera / Filter Chroma
6) Night Vision Camera
7) and FLIR Thermal
I hope somebody can make something like this.
Have Nokia implemented the option for 25 FPS in video? Not to mention other frame rates. Or at least made sure the hardware and software are not preventing third party apps from implementing other frame rates than 30 FPS and variations.
Because 25fps is used by half the planet. And 24 is the standard film rate.
Nokia making Apple look like the artistic little brother.
No current phone procesor would make a significant dent in the processing time but a larger battery would be nice. Also it was probably in development for a long time hence the "dated" hardware.
Americans be like:
"Not an iphone, not interested. Iphone is the best and only smartphone. Apple invented everything, Siri, where's my car?".
Like you didn't stand in one of those lines to get an iPhone, don't be embarrassed.
You've obviously spent no time in America. That sounds more like Chinese.
@@BrandonAEnglish agreed.
only apple heads... they are niche and don't know it.
And if they don't talk about apple them they say Samsung is the best. What !!
Same with kfc and Starbucks and Walmart and so on. Its a country dominated and controlled by corporations. Citizens don't have rift of choice there.
They can't get best technology, best furniture, best clothes and most importantly they only get sad food.
It seems to me that assuming each of the cameras has its own sensor then you would literally be gathering more light.
then why dont we use less camera but bigger sensor?
I've got it for half a year now and it's been the best phone I've had for years. I hate the bloat that many manufacturers put to their UI's. Also the camera is great it's a pity that people don't pay attention to the photos they are taking.
Good stuff I don't own the phone but have a big soft spot for Nokia! Nostalgia😂. It's at a good price here in the UK. I love the blue navy colour and the design. Looks classy. After so many negative reviews glad to hear you are enjoying it 🙂
From when is SD845 couple of years old ?
To be fair, at the time the phone came out the SD 845 was only a year old. Sure it wasn't the flagship chip anymore, but Nokia probably had to use that chip to keep costs down and the phone somewhat appealing to customers, especially considering it might've been experimental. Either way, I'm hoping for a second generation to see what they can improve and innovate now that triple camera trend is the norm.
It comes out in the autumn of this year
He needs to breath..... 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. BREATH!
If it has a focal length based crop mode 28mm, 35 and a 50mm, it'll move from my "maybe" category to "here's my money".
I have it and some of the images I take are fantastic! It just feels a little unrefined and I hope to see a sequel. Hope Nokia didn't give up on imaging! Question: could these effects be achieved with one large image sensor! Nokia 808?
Thanks for the video (-:
I always appreciate you taking a look at tech on this channel!
5:33 You actually can gather more light with more lenses. You mean you will have same amount of light in a room with one window as compared to a room with few same sized windows?? This is not how lenses work...
Except each lens has its own sensor or "room" so this is incorrect. You don't have multiple lenses on the same sensor.
@@theartofphotography But coputation algorithms stitches all pictures into one. Isn't that same as having multiple lenses for same picture which is equal to more light for same picture? I imagine sensor as person's eyes. And that person is in the room with multiple windows. So sensor should get more light. Maybe I'm just missing a point here. Cool video btw.
I bought mine in march and I've been pretty happy with it. The dynamic range is out of this world. I do wish for a longer focal length, when I'm using my camera I tend to favor my 85 more than anything. My biggest gripe with the quality of the photos is actually a result of the full spectrum lenses, at least I think it is. In areas of high contrast that are really busy, say a lot of tree branches or stones, the photos appear grossly oversharpened. I think it's just the nature of the light gathering without a color filter being incorporated into a color image. It's a really interesting concept that I hope I see more of.
So you would recommend it?
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v I love it! It's also a great convo starter. It turns the conversation towards photography, then I get a chance to plug myself haha All of the normal phone things it does just fine. has enough battery to get a normal person through a day, although with heavy music streaming over bluetooth coupled with normal use mine has been limited to a work day.
@@mauvrion_fries thanks Shane for replying. That's great feedback. Especially from someone using the phone long term and buying it with their own money! I have an HTC U11. But it won't last forever and HTC seem to be finished making phones. I always had Nokia's in the past, since 2002. Nostalgia also. I have been keeping my eye on the Pureview since March. I think it looks absolutely stunning. I love the navy blue colour🤤 And now it's come down in price alot. So really tempted by it bigtime 😁 I take it the software updates have improved the fingerprint sensor. But you always have the psscode anyhow so not a deal breaker for me. But then I do really love Nokia! Happy New Year!
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v the updates have helped tremendously. Nokia is really good about sending out consistent bug patches and stuff. Having said that, the fingerprint reader is still garbage. I use my pattern to unlock every time now, and use my fingerprint to log into finance apps. It still doesn't work consistently and sometimes I get locked out of the fingerprint code and need to login with my passwords. That is the biggest pain in the butt with it, that can't be understated. But it's also not a big deal at the same time. I love this phone! Still going strong.
@@mauvrion_fries is it true they send updates for three years? Nokia seem to treat their customers well. Maybe it's time for me to "go home" haha. I just fell in love with it when I first saw it lol. People complain about the bezel! But I like that, surely easier to hold when watching in landscape mode and taking photos. Like those specs for 345 pounds where I live in Northern Ireland. Compared to the pixel 4! It's ridiculous! I think I could live with that fingerprint scanner OK. I am not a super heavy user anyhow. Don't play any games which has to help me with battery life
What is the name of this device? 0:38
Light
5:45 you are right but only on one condition, that from the quantum mechanics point of of view cameras are the same, which is not possible from the qm point of view. In all (infinity?) other cases every aditional picture will decrease the noise.
I’m a Nokia 9 user and I’m pretty satisfied with it, but I still hope for the camera software to be polished
Really loved the phone but at the moment I have difficulties caring about it.. Ive literally had the phone for 4 months, and im getting my 2nd replacement phone in 1-2 weeks. So basically Ive now had 2 faulty Nokia 9's and now Ive got to wait before getting 3rd. Honestly would just love to switch phone at this point..
Wrong. You can gather more light than it usually hits the sensor/sensors.
5:35 you didn't understand them. They didn't say that the device captures more light than the one that's available they have said that the device collects more light compared to other device.
It's important : yes, it gathers "more light" because the amount of light gathered is a relation of surface area, per unit of time, per unit of aperture per unit of wavelengths. If you have a number of the same camera firing together you indeed gather more light (quantity); afterward combining gathered data enable reducing noise. If you are in a low light situation and you are able to gather infrared light, you gather more light also (quality) because you access a domain where your subject is more illuminated. Another way of looking at this is the sensor area, and the total aperture : you get the equivelent of a bigger sensor with a wider aperture. Because light gathering works more logarithmically than linearly, you need 10x to get 2x, but in this nokia you get a little of both physical size power and wavelengths power. Ask an astrophotographer about wavelengths and he will show you the power of those.
Love how you brought out the dual camera mode, which is exactly why I watched the video. 5 stars for being knowledgeable and thorough.
5 cameras that each one takes 4 pictures of 12mp. So you have 5 * 4 * 12 = 240mp of data each time you press the button. Thats why it takes longer to process. Maybe a snapdragon 865 can do it in real time.
Phones are becoming really good for photography. I made a jump from Iphone 7 to 11 and omg i never had so much fun and trust in a phone camera. My DSLR is starting to colect dust..
Anyone watching on their iPhones 📱? I miss the Nokia e-series, n-series 😭! Touchscreens phones are overrated these days forgot about the multiple cameras🤦🏻♂️
What about BlackBerry Key2 or Key2 le? If you want something different. To stand out from the crowd! Everybody seems to have iPhone but I don't. There must be something special about them
AS an owner of this phone, I am positively impressed with the camera and processing power for games. Also it can shoot pictures in complete dark environment. Switch to the pro mode and set ISO to 6400 and shutter speed to 1 or 2 sec. and it will make a reasonably good color picture even in a pitch black room.
This looks like a meme of how phones are going to look in the future. 😂
I saw pictures of this last year and I thought it was a prototype that never released, because I’ve never seen any tech RUclipsr talk about it until now. Normally all tech reviewers flood my feed whenever any new innovative phone is on the market.
It’s quite a bummer that nobody even gave this phone a shot or even talked about it. There are plenty of phones that get lots of publicity despite their shortcomings such as the pixel 4 and red hydrogen.
Judging from the few pictures I’ve seen, they look quite amazing. Better than my iPhone Xs Max. They have kinda a Leica dslr quality or something to it. But I have no idea to what extent you’ve gone to take those pictures and what special conditions you were in.
Where to get that 16 camera device? Is that available even?
This is the first video I didn't feel like I needed to fast forward. I have the Nokia 9 and its a great phone. The hardware is nice and the Android One program keeps it updated. The fingerprint sensor needs to be re-calibrated often and the flashlight wont work if you use the face unlock. I think the cameras have a lot of potential. 5 cameras does take a lot of processing power. It does take a moment to render but The pictures are great and videos are good enough. Much better than paying double price or more for an Iphone in my opinion. I got mine on sale fore $400.
It looks amazing. Really good specs for the price not to mention the gorgeous blue navy colour and the design
@No Idols I tried an Adobe app called capture or something but it crashed. The pureview is slim and a little less durable feeling than the ones with metal sides. Those things were indestructible with a screen protector. Not as pretty but I mostly just look at the screen and the pixels per inch. Color accuracy, latency and refresh rate seem good and gaming performance is more than adequate. I don't care about the parts of my phone that others see. I'm not trying to impress anyone. It just needs a good screen and camera paired with the right software and hardware.
Have you heard of photogrammetry? I think this camera would be better for it because of the spider eye design. I don't know enough about it all. I know Amazon was able to make 3d images with similar hardware on Android.
@No Idols oh and your name reminds me of no role models by j Cole...
I have only just purchased the Nokia 9 Pure View, really for its still photography. I am late considering its been out quite a while. I have had professional level DSLR, mirroless camera.before and I still have one. I am not a professional, but an enthusiast, my knowledge of photography is adequate, but not extensive. I was looking for something light to carry I'm my pocket, but at the same time, does not take a massive performance hit. I am to tell, this is the finest smartphone camera I have ever used, and not by a small margin either. I have several smartphones, and I have what many people call the king of smartphone cameras now, Huwai P40 Pro, which is the second best camera on any smartphone I have used. Back to the Nokia 9 Pure View, I am in awe of it's capability. Purely as a smartphone, it's other features, I don't think it's in the race, hence my purchase of the Huwai P40 Pro. And I acknowledge that it's processing of images is slow, buggy type of camera app, and for outdoor night photography their are better options. And I realize this is not for your average smartphone user, who is neither a professional or enthusiast, better options for them too. But looking purely from a point of view of photography, hard core photographers, who are willing to use its settings to its full potential, and are okay with post processing on the phone, or better still on your computer in Photoshop, Lightroom or any other software, this is a no brainer. The images this camera produces, it's dynamic range, the way it keeps a lot of information in its shadows and highlights is really impressive. I have had a medium format digital camera, sometimes I feel it even edges past that. I am no way saying it compares with full frame, or medium format camera, with their high quality sensors, lenses and the ability to actually change the aperture. But for a smartphone, this is beyond my expectations, it's beautiful. And the ability to take good quality Raw images, and truly actual monochromatic images in the raw format, due to its triple monochromatic sensors! I think apart from the Leica Monochrome professional camera, I don't think there is a another digital camera with this ability, even among dedicated high end cameras. But to have this in a smartphone is impressive. I really hope Nokia releases the next version of this smartphone, updated and all the places were this falls short improved, whilst keeping the same photography concept of this camera, several sensors working together for jaw dropping results, and I hope the dedicated monochromatic sensors, with the ability to shoot black and white photos in Raw and Jpeg remain. Nokia, you really have something to be proud of, I would really like to see an improved version of this soon.
What do you mean by the monochrome camera using infra red? Isn't that heat sensing?
Im waiting for any improvements this 2020 for this phone
I’ve got an iPhone 11 Pro and (unsurprisingly, really) when I switch between the cameras and am close to an object (even like 30cm), there’s a visible shift in perspective. It’s even more apparent when zooming in video mode. Similarly, the portrait mode works less well in close range because of the parallax. So I like what Nokia has tried here but I’m skeptical how good the results are for anything close and maybe even mid range. My suspicion is if the parallax effect becomes too huge, the phone will reduce the number of sensors it uses to maybe even just one.
Hi. On the beginning I do apologise for my "English"
For me it's not real Nokia anymore, and I think that new owner is riding on great name what Nokia made. Phone is embarrassment for brand name and camera it's... Nonsense... I'm sorry but its my opinion.
Agreed
Well, you're entitled to your own misinformed opinion I guess.
Hi Ted, recently you reviewed the new Sony Xperia 1/5 with the Cinema Pro app on it. With what software did u edit the files? There is no software on the phone pre installed isn't there?
Greetings from the Netherlands.
It is really interesting. Hopefully they make another attempt in the future. I noticed it a while back, but like you said reports I saw of slow processing made it sound unappealing with how much I normally spend on phones ($200). Maybe if it ever hits bargain basement prices I'll pick one up to mess around with. I've also been looking for a phone with a really good selfie camera to use for b-roll/vlogging while outdoors. The ASUS with a flip forward main camera is pretty nice looking.
ppl: *makes fun of iphone 11 3 camera setup
nokia: *hides*
*Plot Twist* :Two of those back cameras are made by russian spies
When Nokia first "returned" a few years back, I was seriously impressed with their offerings.
Then, they started going down the road of ugly (they all are) Camera Bumps + notches! 😴
So, I was pleased to see this when it came out.
I'm really not that fussed if a phone has a "head/chin," my cheapo Sony has both and I much prefer it..and I'm loving the flush camera(s) on the back of this phone.
I hope they come up with something just as interesting (and affordable) hopefully, with better Face Unlock, or a better Fingerprint Reader in 2020!
Does it have any issues related to parallax?
No one wants a camera phone that you've have to plug into a laptop to get a good picture. What was Nokia thinking 💭
G Cart that's y broke people who can't even afford a laptop should buy this phone
This looks like a really promising phone. I'm pretty happy with my Note 8 for general phone stuff and random snaps, but I'd never rely on it as a primary pocket camera. The Light design could be great in a more powerful phone. Would be fun to okay with if I could find one.
is it available in SE Asia?
Captures infrared light?
interesting technology and review. You mentioned that the model doesn't have " night sight/ mode." However, it's very easy to import the Google Camera App from developers' sites. Since this phone is running Android 10, there shouldn't be any problems because the app is optimized for Android 9. My Samsung S7 only has 8 but still there's a night mode; it just doesn't run the full-bore night sight feature. I wonder how images would look via Google camera coupled with those 5 lenses.
That would be interesting. Only one way to find out
I do think that it’s fair to say that it gathers more photons of light in the multiple sensors than only one would gather, and when combining them it can do things like increase dynamic range and decrease noise. Of course this could also be done with a larger aperture, larger sensor, longer exposure or multiple successive exposures combined.
i enjoyed this review immensely... what camera did you use to film your video?
The most underrated camera phone , truly magnificent images , I think people have been used to limitations on phone cameras so just weren't ready for a phone with such incredible photo capabilities , interesting that the phone costs more to buy used than the prices it was sold extensively at discount originally.
My son got one 9PV back in June 2019, and has it. loves it even today. Doesn't plan to give away. I got one for myself a few days ago for 150 EUR, in mint condition with box and everything. Astonishing photos. I will take a lot of monochrome pictures as well. I really love the POLED display, indoors at 1/5 brightness, and outdoors in bright sunlight it can go higher and it is easy to read. The blacks and colours of the display are good too.
I've always had iPhones but I've had 2 Android phones in my life. One of those was the Nokia 8, and based on my limited experience with Android, I can say that Nokia rules...
also scientifically they can gather more light !
received light at each sensor is limited to the sensor area and the lens, and when u have more lens and sensors, therefore you have more light that you can process for the final image.
I actually bought this phone at launch and STILL have it. Actually watching this video on my Nokia 9.
IS there custom mode
What exactly do you mean when you say that you can't capture more light with more cameras?
To me it seems abvious that you should be able to capture more light. I mean is won't be the same light photons hitting lens A as lens B.
And I guess that the most light photons you capture the less grainy the picture will be.
Is it better than pixel 3a?
Photos all still look like crap on a monitor or on print no matter what computational tricks they have up there sleeve with that tiny lens.
Photos look better than that from a Samsung or apple when viewed on my laptop's screen.
Can i buy it please help me?
Great video. Thanks! Kudos for the Topo Chico bottle shot. Love that stuff.
I got one of these a few months ago on sale for $399 and I really like it. I have taken some stunning photos with it. Most of the time the jpegs right out of the phone look great. Once in a while i grab the raw file for some post processing in my PC. My fingerprint sensor works almost every time. It did not, however, work at all when a tried a screen protector. It’s my first high end phone soI really can’t compare it to other flagships but for the price I paid I don’t think there is a better phone for the photo buff. I am not a obsessive phone watcher either. I get 2 to 3 days of battery life with it mostly sitting around.
@No Idols Apparently you get a mobile copy of Lightroom with the phone. I have the Adobe subscription so i had it anyway. I cant see doing any real editing on a tiny phone screen. Maybe adjust exposure or contrast or something simple like that.
Give more details about camera on phones and their resolution
Very fair review. In the beginning I was about to change my mind and buy Nokia 9 Purview, to test it for Mt personal needs. At the end I confirmed all my (and widely known) doubts about this unique smartphone...
i had the phone for few months - camera is awosme when it is - brutely bad when its not , black and white is amazing ....phone is leggy and the back shuttered very quickly ...all in all really nice idea , and I enjoyed for a while but quality is shakey at its best ...
love mine. bought it at $300, so it was a good deal.
Bought my Huawei P30 Pro for 60$, the gentleman just wanted my Galaxy Note 9 in exchange xD
We still need to develop the technology more IMO, maybe when Solid state batteries are available?
The upcoming snapdragon 865 processor might be able to rescue this type of computational photography!
Mobile phone cameras are limited by the small lens size and the sensors in them are tiny so the pixels are bunched together and absorb little light. The probably shoot jpeg so processing is being added unless you can shoot raw but compare images to a DSLR camera and there is no competition, the DSLR will destroy it
i bought it back in april 2019 and it is amazing.....
This guy knows what he's talking about. Great video.
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Why there's no ultra wide angle lens
This is the right way to do it. Other way it's not practical the phone must be steady no subject movement so it's limited. I hope nokia doesn't give up and release the sec version more refined with the right spec.
I think they are announcing the follow up to this phone in February at that big Tech show. Should be interesting
Still using my nokia 9 on the side. The TRUE B&W lenses actually rival my Leica Monochrom camera. The pureview 9 is worth it for the B&W photography ALONE! People are still blown away by the b&w ive shot on that phone.