22Designs Lynx Telemark Binding Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2020
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This is a review of the Telemark binding Lynx from 22 Designs. A Telemark tech binding made to go touring.
In this video, we are going be evaluate how it skis, the step in, step out, the durability, the tour efficientcy and a little comparaison with the Meidjo Binding.
The Lynx binding is the latest binding in the 22Designs line up. 22Desings have created reputed bindings from the HammerHead, Axl, Outlaw X and now the Lynx.
This Lynx binding is made for touring but its telemark descending abilities are quite good as well.
I have mounted my Lynx Telemark binding on the Helio 105 from Black Diamond. Note that Black Diamond does not recommand mounting telemark binding on this ski. If you do, you will void your warranty.
I love the Lynx as an overall design, It's a really innovating way to go from telemark to walk mode.
The second heel anchor is simple and stays in walk mode very reliably. And it stay in telemark mode very reliably.
It's the step in that is sometimes not perfect. This is no big deal while touring but It would be a problem if you use this binding a lot while patrolling or if you use a gondola. I talk about step in step out a lot in my reviews because it is the differentiator between a lot of modern binding. I mean, there are all very good, not to say excellent.
22 design Outlaw or now the Lynx are well know to be durable, excellent service from the company if something were to go wrong.
I can say that they offer the best value, performance combo of all brands if you live in North America.
On the down side, their step in in both models are not the best.
It's not a big deal, but if I were to identify a weakness, that would be it.
Telemark binding have evolve so much since NTN arrived in 2008.
The own and ski the original Rottofella Freeride, the Meidjo 3.0, the Bishop BMFr, and the Lynx.
I use to have the OutlawX and it's a great bondong too. They kinda have each their own plus.
The Lynx if definetly the usability, tourability, skiability. It's a COMPLETE solution for touring.
When I guide in the backcountry, my telemark skills are always a challenge. I need to keep up with the alpine tourers with super light alpine touring skis, binding and boots. With the Lynx, all I'm missing are the light boots now. Or to be more specific, I would love to have the Crispi Evo WC with a better walk mode. ALL telemark boots suffer from old walk mode technology.
Back to the Lynx binding, what worried me the most was the composite plate that are the backbone of this binding.
Maybe that it will age and have problems in the future but my trust in 22Design is really good. They have only ever produce durable bindings. And so far, the pêrformance of that plate is really, really good. It transferts the energy to the ski and all tech bindings are really good edge to edge. 
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Great review - thanks. I have the same boot and the same issue with the step in. I have needed to lock the toe tech piece for ski mode. I love the binding
Great review. Much appreciated.
Great stuff Rene!
Thanks Bill
Thank you so much. This was very helpful!
Bon video et bonnec critique!
Hi.
I had the release issue with the 2018-19 pair. I spoke to 22designs, they had an issue with a batch - I reckon that's the problem you have.
The customer service I received was absolutely brilliant, they sent a couple of new pieces and now the work absolutely brilliantly.
Speak to them, they'll fix it. They were great with me
Hey Thanks Sam, I know how great their service is.
Great review. I really appreciate the comparison with the Meidjo. It would be nice to see the weight side by side. Guess I need to look that up. Thanks!
I have the binding mounted on different skis so I can't compare myself. check out earnyourturns.com it should be there
@@Absolutetelemark Just for reference the Lynx is 505 g (small) and 525 (large) and the Meidjo is 460 g. I got the Meidjo weight from their website and didn't see data from small and large though I assume the large is slightly heavier as with the Lynx.
Thanks Rene! I want to tell you that I have been skiing a binding from this year’s batch ( received in Dec 2019). The pins are snug on a 28 Tx Pro in ski mode, so perhaps they fixed the issue you mention here. I haven’t skied it in enough conditions to determine if the heel catch has been improved but no issues so far.
Dave Meservy thanks For the follow up. I should have check this out myself. Sorry for the misleading info
You can get 360 degree DIN-rated adjustability by using Telebry Safeouts for Axls - same hole pattern. I use them with Outlaw X. And they have brakes that don't interfere with step in.
Thanks for the binding review. But I really want to know what kind of gloves are you wearing? Leather glove with big gauntlet looks amazing!
The option to alpine heel really sells it to me. I come from an alpine background and can get tired tele turning and if I get in to fall terrain I’ll be much safer.
Make sure your boot will fit both the tech inserts in front and the tech rear notch. To my knowledge only Crispy Evo and Evo WC have both. Scarpa TX pro had the rear tech notch in the past so you could still find those.
absolutetelemark thanks for the heads up. Will keep my eye out for the old Scarpa stuff. Those are the boots I learned on, they kinda hold a special place for me.
absolutetelemark plus I almost exclusively buy used. Saves me lots.
@@Absolutetelemark is it possible to modify a new Scarpa TX Pro to add the heel tech insert? I'm guessing the answer is no, but figured I'd ask. I can get a good price on the Scarpas, so disappointed to find they've removed the tech insert in the heel :-(
Also, is there anywhere here in Ontario or Quebec where a person could actually physically try on Crispi or Scarpa tele boots? Coming from the alpine world it seems crazy to me to buy a boot without having a chance to try it on... But it seems there are literally no bricks and mortar retailers!
Taking a tele lesson next week, currently geeking out listening to your podcasts and watching your videos! Thanks so much!
Ryan Daum no. To my knowledge It is not. Although I’m sure someone here will prove me otherwise
Great review! Will for sure go for the linx, after experiencing too many problems with Meidjo. Now, we need lighter boots!
And btw, I though there was a warranty issue to mount tele binding on the BD touring skis…or is it only when putting Quiverkiller inserts?
Depends on the model and year of construction
I have a lynx 2019-2020 and no release issues with scarpa tx pro in 28.5 so far (but i almost always lock it when i step in and then unlock it again before skiing). I’ve skied a lot on the old medijo (not 2.0) and broken the plastic under the foot twice as well as the second heel once. Lynx looks stronger, time will tell how strong it is 😀⛷
Thanks for the comment Edvard. Yes time will tell, but so far so good
I think the 2020 version has stronger pin clamping.
Are these the 2019-2020 lynx or are they the older versions?
These were receive in Feburary 2019.
It happened to me that while skiing my second heel realeased an it made my crash. I added 1 spacer and i didn't happen for a while. Now it happened again so i put yesterday a 2nd spacer, i hope it's fine now, but i'm afraid it will stiffen up the binding too much. Re installing the plates required quite some force.
When it works it's a great binding, however i'm a bit concerned about my own safety. Any thought?
I didn't knoiw you can add a second scpacer. Honestly, I would simply contact 22design. They are really good to solve issues. It ended up that it was my unit that had a problem.
I have 15 days on the Lynx and is a bit of a love hate relationship. Couple things learned is most everyone should just put in 2 spacers to keep the heel connected well. So you have made it that far! Check for a broken spring or cracked plate (there larger one) which some do splinter a little and can be replaced. I also had ice get stuck on top of the piece that the larger plate slides through, this prevented the claw from grabbing completely. I had tried the slick pin 1 before, but now with everything broken in (spring wise), I found the pin 1 doable for all around control, it original felt like too much up on my toe. So I have been on pin 2 95% of the time. I went to ski a lot of steeps with rough terrain and did not feel good on pin 2 at the time. That experience confirmed my gripe with NTN of too rigid laterally and not deep enough knee dive to deal with chattering ski edge on frozen terrain. The setup is so stiff, it has enough leverage to fight against you pressing down. I did my next run on similar steeps on pin 1 and it actually felt pretty good to navigate steeps and bumps, felt more like how I remembered the peak of skill on 75mm. But then the ski came off 3 times that run. It was a few days later when I was able to identify the icing issue I noted above. That may have been part of the probelm. Need to bring the skis in overnight to defrost to avoid icing issues. I want to love these for the simplicity vs Meidjo. I have not skied the Meidjo, but interested to try them for sake of comparison. I think this whole Lynx vs Meidjo debate might involve some psychological bias! In North America: One camp is coming from a history and brand loyalty to 22d (probably myself included) and then you have people that bite the bullet on the price of Meidjo and want to love their binding choice because of the financial investment. Also it depends on how you assess complexity of the bindings. I would vote for 6 screws and just a few simple parts on the 22d side (for the front at least) if you think you want to move bindings around, which hey, why not if it is easy with small expense of inserts. Then you have the other perspective of lots of fancy engineering and 13 screws(?) to accomplish the luxury version of tech to that is Meidjo.
@@leftlanedriver Nice review. I got ne flex plates with cam stops under warranty. Mounted them on, crashed 4 times in a week. Tired of skiing with the contiuous fear of suddelny crashing. Tried with spacers, different pin positions...still happened. The local dealer will refund me the price of the lynx and i'll add those 50bucks to get the meidjo. Based on my own experience I can only discourage buying the lynx. I'm so frustrated about them.
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Rene, Have you tried using two spacers on the springs add some resistance to help keep the binding in ski mode? Adding another spacer will create more resistance with the notch to also make sure it stays in tour mode when selected. Cheers, Allan
No I have not. I'm not sure what you mean by «keeping the binding in ski mode» but I will assume that you mean in an alpine like position. 22Designs only provide one spacer for each spring. I would not go with more anyway has I still have the possibility to move the tele tension vector one notch back. In the end I want to telemark almost all the time. And I like (personal preference here) my binding to be somewhat soft. If you want good control in an alpine like position without locking the heel, get a stiff boot like the Crispi Evo WC or the Scarpa TX Comp. This will provide good support. Hope this answers your question
absolutetelemark
What I meant was when you step down to go to ski mode and it won’t engage. What you’ll need to do is add another spacer, you can use two with the large binding. This will add some preload and help the claw to engage and stay engaged on the second heel. You can. Ha be the tele vector to your preference without changing the spring preload from using the spacers. I’d try that to help with the issue you have had.
BTW, I ski the Crispi Evo WC boot and have older TX Pro boots as well. I like the combo of they Lynx and the Evo WC boot. I ski a small with one spacer and in TV #1 position.Imtalked to you. Deforestation I bought the EWC to get your input. I also ski they Outlaws as my area binding, the Meidjo 2.1 upgraded from 2.0 and I ski my own TTS with Scarpa F1 (older AT green boots with bellows) boots.
@@Absolutetelemark *another one of Scarpa telemark frustrations is that the Comp does not have tech toe inserts.
@@allanfici6172 he’s having issues with the tech toe jaw springs, not the duck butt.