INSANE way to EASILY get Siberian Tiger Tannu Tuva HOI4

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @swagnlag449
    @swagnlag449 2 месяца назад +9

    As of Trial of Allegience, you dont get supply from Berlin when you're in the Axis, you get it from Kyzyl. Since you're at war with the USSR and Mongolia, there is no way for supply to reach the German front for your troops. Your hand is kinda forced to use Expeditionairies or invade from Kyzyl and Tannu Tuva.

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC Год назад +158

    Over 60 factories as democratic Tannu Tuva. Too good

  • @antasil5768
    @antasil5768 Год назад +170

    The sentence 'excess manpower' in combination with Tannu Tuva. Oh man ... Brilliant stuff!

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +19

      Tannu Tuva deserves a win 😄

    • @lemonke4209
      @lemonke4209 Год назад

      @@hatless_spidertrue

    • @lemonke4209
      @lemonke4209 Год назад +2

      Its not Annexation of Tannu Tuva. Its Annexation of the Soviet Union

    • @ElPolloLoco7689
      @ElPolloLoco7689 4 месяца назад

      @@lemonke4209 Tannu-Tuva was never gone, the name just changed to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics !

  • @chianghighshrek
    @chianghighshrek Год назад +41

    Watching this now makes me realize the amount of insanity goes into playing tannu what
    Chiang-high shrek/Czech comes in clutch

  • @stoic521
    @stoic521 Год назад +81

    You are basically roleplaying a certain middle eastern country strategy-wise. Greatest ally confirmed.

    • @YourLocalMairaaboo
      @YourLocalMairaaboo Год назад +5

      Yeesh, that comment... Anyone else hear barking in the distance?

    • @stoic521
      @stoic521 Год назад +14

      @@YourLocalMairaaboo I only hear kvetching. Oy veyyy

    • @sheogorath7915
      @sheogorath7915 Год назад +11

      @@YourLocalMairaaboo I read that "anyone else hear banking in the distance?"

    • @rjagad
      @rjagad Год назад +1

      ​@@stoic521💀 really.

    • @cowgoy6648
      @cowgoy6648 Год назад +2

      Oy vey

  • @DijonDillan
    @DijonDillan Год назад +48

    You always blow my mind with how big brain these strats are, very well done!!!

  • @_C-T_
    @_C-T_ Год назад +26

    The Goat is teaching us another lesson! Klasse! I love the developing of your humour in your videos, its fantastic!

  • @AccelEng
    @AccelEng Год назад +34

    Thanks a ton for the guide! It allowed me to get the achievement on the 2nd try after a lot of previously fruitless grinding...
    A couple notes for others who want to get it using this strategy:
    1) You don't have to get all the South American countries as exiles; Chinese manpower and the industry of the first ~5 countries you get is enough
    2) You HAVE TO join the Axis and build infrastructure, airports, and supply in the Union; the German AI is r*tarded and unable to do that, making it almost impossible for them to win on their own
    Have a sub~

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +7

      Good stuff! Pinned!
      Always nice to have some info for others from someone that tried the strat in their own way

    • @swagnlag449
      @swagnlag449 2 месяца назад

      its also very risky to keep adding nations to your faction by dismantling it as your exiles can join the Axis before you can invite them to the new faction sometimes. I lost a run like this cause China joined the Axis and the exiled manpower went to Germany, not me.

  • @james2529
    @james2529 Год назад +15

    12:55 that is the stupidest, most HOI4 thing I have ever heard.

  • @Therecreep
    @Therecreep Год назад +22

    I was shocked when I found out that I had somehow been the very first person in the world to get this achievement, got it just under 24h after the launch lol.

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +2

      It's soo rare
      I imagine most people that have done it have used order 66

    • @tevarinvagabond1192
      @tevarinvagabond1192 Год назад +2

      Most achievements weren't as hard to beat at the beginning, once they fixed the game and patched a lot of exploits it got harder. While there still is the elephant in the room of paratroopers, things like "Order 66" is a lot harder now since there's fewer options and more RNG involved, and cheesing division templates isn't a sure thing either.

    • @kiriseraph9674
      @kiriseraph9674 5 месяцев назад

      @@hatless_spider I did it shortly after BBA launched. I made a small number of 5/0 inf with support artillery, and a lot of 2w cavalry. Cavalry ran amok all over Siberia while my 5/0 divisions mopped up encircled enemy divisions. Had enough war contribution to get all of the territory for all of my formables, perhaps because the war was over quite fast and Germany didn't get the chance to build up crazy war contribution.

  • @aidenbooksmith2351
    @aidenbooksmith2351 Год назад +9

    Exile-master Tannu Tuva?! I love it

  • @chianghighshrek
    @chianghighshrek Год назад +6

    Wasn't expecting to see this out today whens the nexted stream

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +3

      Not sure, but hopefully soon! Those are always fun

  • @taifkl7580
    @taifkl7580 Год назад +4

    To tell you the truth, i was looking for a way, to do this, only found out some old videos, but i have ended up taking half of Sinkiang ( it looked like south and North Korea), than taking whole Xibei san ma, by not calling anyone but sinkiang to attack through their territory, sending cavalry units to quickly take the empty areas, before they get invited in Chinese alliance, or how it is called, then grinded some of their manpower, and was pretty much happy, got around 42 divisions, then made war as Fascist, but i got bored, to just watch it be like ww1 stalemate, soo thank you for your nice ideas of new way how to get it . :D

  • @deluxehipster8714
    @deluxehipster8714 3 месяца назад +2

    I remember when the achievement first came out so I was sluggin it out trying to get achievement for solid 3 days.

  • @IrrelevantPride
    @IrrelevantPride Год назад +9

    Literal insane strat, incredible

  • @2milk867
    @2milk867 Год назад +2

    this is insane, i never would have thought of this in a million years

  • @Stoikor
    @Stoikor Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video, I found the strategy helpful In getting the achievement! I ended up getting china, shanxi and spain as exiles and that was enough for me to make around 40 divs that I improved over the time of war, I started the war with the soviets around 39 and held on and just kept eating their divisions in countless encirclements without pushing out wide. As soon as Germany pushed in I started slowly expanding and that gave me more than enough war score to get all the provinces you need.

  • @creamylou7840
    @creamylou7840 Год назад +9

    2.3k manpower daily, OH MY LORD THAT IS NUTWORTHY

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +7

      It was actually like 2.65k per day at 100 legitimacy with the extraction campaign active 😂

    • @VarenvelDarakus
      @VarenvelDarakus Год назад +6

      i once had china join my faction when i was portugal , was fun game , had infinite menpower

  • @lukassigismund6520
    @lukassigismund6520 Год назад +3

    This helped me a lot, thanks!

  • @soratonin
    @soratonin Год назад +1

    I had an idea for a cheesy Siberian Tiger strategy that might be equally as insane, but I’m not sure if it would work since I came up with it at 4 in the morning:
    - Start as the Soviet Union, kick Tannu Tuva as soon as possible (April), before then immediately start connecting the railway network to Tuva. As soon as you can, justify on them and annex them.
    - Redirect all naval production to convoys
    - Start going down the Trotsky path in the focus tree. What matters here is that the civil war is won as quickly as possible (go full cheese, lend lease everything to Spain before war triggers, set all divisions to anti-air before triggering the war, etc.)
    - Make sure to set your secret headquarters to Tashkent. This is important.
    - After winning the war, rush towards the “Autonomous Soviet Republics” focus
    - This will release Belarus and the three Caucasus nations. As soon as possible, annex Belarus and Georgia (Don’t worry about Armenia and Azerbaijan) through lend-lease, construction, and the continuous focus. I’m not sure how long this takes or if this is even necessary-the problem here is that Belarus and Georgia will be able to move troops into Soviet territory if we don’t do this.
    - Once you annex Belarus and Georgia, release Georgia and Dagestan as free. This will isolate Armenia and Azerbaijan.
    - Move all of your troops to your capital Tashkent, and then release Kazakhstan as free, isolating the capital from the rest of the country
    - Release Tannu Tuva as free and as Tuva, spam out 2-width cavalry divisions, and justify and declare on the Soviets. The Soviets will have no troops (unless Belarus/Georgia aren’t annexed, then you may have to face the puppet divisions).
    I’m not sure if this is possible before Germany declares on the army-less Soviets, but it’s a crazy idea

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +1

      I like the thought process!
      Not sure it could be done fast enough, though, plus there's the issue that I don't think that achievement can be triggered if you didn't start as tannu tuva.
      Could be wrong though!

    • @a12475
      @a12475 9 месяцев назад

      @@hatless_spiderpeople use the similiar strategy for the house of Kurds achievement, I can imagine this would he almost the same (though I would try this out first)

  • @linclokatz
    @linclokatz Год назад +4

    Thank you for being the one HOI4 RUclipsr without a annoying voice

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +1

      Lol well glad you think so! That is one thing that is rather difficult to change

    • @Sebitoche
      @Sebitoche Год назад

      For me, bittersteel and mountain general have not annoying voice, but I agree with you, a lot of hoi4 RUclipsrs have annoying voice

    • @linclokatz
      @linclokatz Год назад +1

      @@Sebitoche ok mountain general has an annoying voice but I agree with you on bittersteel

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 Год назад

      @@Sebitochebittersteel’s best feature is definitely his voice, like it is just so calming

    • @sto1238
      @sto1238 Год назад

      @@linclokatzMG can be a bit hard to understand sometimes because he has a pretty thick accent lol

  • @ChalleonPlays
    @ChalleonPlays Год назад +15

    I love democracy!

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +9

      "Meesa propose to give chancellor temporary war powers!"

    • @ChalleonPlays
      @ChalleonPlays Год назад +7

      ​@@hatless_spiderthis is how democracy starts with thoundouros likes

  • @arsenal587
    @arsenal587 Год назад +3

    This was utter insanity and I loved it

  • @Hilter420
    @Hilter420 Год назад +4

    I just Order 66'd the soviets (with collabs)

  • @billyzm
    @billyzm Год назад +1

    This is abusing proper game mechanics on a whole new level... bravo!
    I so glad that I cheesed my way out of this achievement beore the BBA peace conference update, because I don't know how much brain cells I would lose trying this now. As much as I like these to "beat" the game when the odds are against you (it's super satisfying), I really wish that Paradox made some of its achievements more playable for most players. Unless, the devs tried these crazy methods one day or watched a "crazy HOI4 RUclipsr" and decided that they should make an schievement for it... I guess only history will tell ;)
    This is a really brilliant run, though probably too much chaos for me to personally handle!

  • @Skorch1356
    @Skorch1356 2 месяца назад

    17:53 Even if you see the X when you're requesting divisions, you should still be able to take the entire army

  • @FairyRat
    @FairyRat Год назад +1

    Ok the title didn't lie, certified insanity.

  • @plutoniocartonio7092
    @plutoniocartonio7092 2 месяца назад

    The definition of Rogue Nation:
    This tannu tuva

  • @funfelplaying
    @funfelplaying Год назад +3

    I’d disagree with the part of inability to take all of Sinkiang and much of china.
    By producing transports from the beginning of the game i managed to take out sinkiang without soviet help. You can paradrop the unguarded southern tile bordering the Soviet Union and rush with 2w cav. Then you’ll still have the time to quickly defeat Xibei San Ma with Comintern’s help before they join the united front.
    That gives you the setup to have a capable army and gain major war contribution by reliably encircling Chinese troops (i managed to get a really ugly but highly populated puppet spanning about a third of the country)
    Then, I turned fascist, joined the axis to keep the Russian army on the German border and quickly justified on the soviets and made some shock troops with my population enchanced by Karl Marx’s portrait (my puppet army was made strictly for defence purposes to avoid them breaking free)
    Then, quickly punched through Mongolia to link with my puppets without inviting them into the war. Looked for easy encirclements while bleeding the Soviets with my huge defensive army and waiting for Barbarossa. After Germany attacked I switched into an all out assault mode to farm war contribution. In the end that got me around 25% wc which was enough for an empire that spanned from Vladivostok way past the Urals + Mongolia
    Then I proceeded to beat up Japan alongside the US, but my Chinese puppet allowed me to take most of the land really cheaply and limit American gains to 1 or 2 provinces in Japan
    This strategy is quite challenging and cheesy, but still possible and really satisfying to pull off :)

  • @kolikolikolikolikolikolikoliko
    @kolikolikolikolikolikolikoliko 24 дня назад +1

    off topic but you look like my 4th period history teacher sick beard dude

  • @relenltlessgoat7603
    @relenltlessgoat7603 Год назад +7

    it's GINAAAA not China

  • @deadbird7450
    @deadbird7450 Год назад +1

    Accidentally justified on Afghanistan and didn't notice until I got the wargoal

  • @marioanddj
    @marioanddj Год назад +2

    How did you get liberia and ireland etc to jojn the war? they refuse to for me They have dangerous borders against the enemies. -100 Democracy being called to an offensive war: -50 Base Reluctance -20

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +2

      If you click call to war in the war screen, that will be successful

    • @marioanddj
      @marioanddj Год назад +2

      @@hatless_spider Something so small yet so important Thank you

  • @redoctober67
    @redoctober67 9 месяцев назад

    I think France having a civil war is an absolutely critical part of this strategy working. In one attempt at this strategy, it didn't happen, and Germany could never fully break through to France and the low countries, and thus never started Barbarossa.

  • @regisfilius755
    @regisfilius755 Год назад +4

    Tannu what?

  • @YungIsyan
    @YungIsyan Год назад +2

    Just got every achievement after exactly 2000 ingame hours (I dont know how navy works)

  • @aliboboi17
    @aliboboi17 6 месяцев назад +1

    Shanxi refuses to join my faction so I can't get the expeditionaries to my territory

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  6 месяцев назад

      That might be a new issue if pdx changed something, although I'm not aware if it has changed.
      I would say try it again and try reloading as well. Sometimes the calculations on who can join will change upon reload

  • @youngdon1466
    @youngdon1466 Год назад +1

    A way I never realized. I was thinking about how to get industry and manpower by destroy the allies. But this .... this is literally insane. I am gonna try this🤣

  • @easye4741
    @easye4741 Год назад +3

    Hey hatless spider could you try to do “go ahead Macau my day”?

    • @Havok0159
      @Havok0159 Год назад +1

      That's pretty easy to do by comparison, no crazy strats needed, just knowing how to win in China and how to beat Japan is enough. Make the collab as soon as possible (remember to set your colonies to civilian gov at game start, make one in India for the extra factories). You get the United Kingdom of Portugal and Brasil, you can kill Spain for fun once WW2 starts (3 armies + max collab is enough to take them in a couple of weeks since they barely have any cores at this point, most being next to you) and you go to war against China and Japan. Kill China first (because of Chinese unity), take what you can in the contested peace deal (make sure to take it using your collab) then take the rest once Japan falls. Fighting them in China until the US caps them or capping them yourself using a naval invasion (the Spanish and Brazilian fleets will help but you'll need to build your own navy to contest) will net you enough score to take China. Then justify for Hong Kong and occupy it.
      Alternatively, you can take HK after your war with Spain. Justify for it, use your fleet to invade Britain through the west (avoid the Channel) then continue with the war with China and Japan. Join the Axis so you don't have to fight them and finish off Japan using what fleet you managed to steal off the British (or do the old strat of puppeting Britain in a tiny province and annex them for the full fleet).

    • @a12475
      @a12475 9 месяцев назад

      @@Havok0159there are ways to wait for the Japanese navy to go to port, Portugal has the ability to building a functional navy and when combined with naval bombers it will win any sea battle.

  • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
    @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Год назад +3

    Who says 0 cheese Tannu Tuva isn't fun?

  • @Alberld
    @Alberld Год назад +3

    Man, this is pure chaos haha

  • @kostyapavlenko1662
    @kostyapavlenko1662 Год назад +1

    he is the god of hoi4

  • @C.A._Old
    @C.A._Old 9 месяцев назад +1

    i wish tommykay saw this X'D

  • @the_roman_emperor_fisheater
    @the_roman_emperor_fisheater Год назад +2

    So infinite power siberia nice

  • @slashgigawon
    @slashgigawon Год назад +1

    why did u pick the maneuver guy two times? 5:10 and 5:25

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +3

      Sorry I think that was just an editing misshap
      You only need to pick it once 😁

  • @accountthatillusetocomment3041
    @accountthatillusetocomment3041 Год назад +2

    When your foreign policy is schizophrenia:

  • @FiveMissiles
    @FiveMissiles Год назад +4

    wtf did i just watch

  • @xenild
    @xenild Год назад +2

    The France civil war happen because france is at war and has a stability below 30 and has disjointed government

  • @derAlphabet
    @derAlphabet Год назад +1

    what a success. the strategy seems pretty strange lmao

  • @phineas7423
    @phineas7423 Год назад +1

    When I try this china wont accept any my requests for expeditionary forces, even just one unit.

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +1

      You have to use one of your own units to create a garrison or frontline order first.
      And China must be in a mutual war with you

    • @f.vorstermans1605
      @f.vorstermans1605 5 месяцев назад

      @@hatless_spider they are in all the wars as i am but they still wont give me any

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 Год назад

    Shoigiu approves of this video

  • @YungIsyan
    @YungIsyan Год назад

    38:10 Adolf Hitler classic. I knew AH was a Gamer

  • @spite3217
    @spite3217 Год назад +1

    How does your Liberia not have the neutral foreign policy?

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +2

      That is random.
      If they do, just have to pick a different democratic nation you can guarantee

  • @spiderhouse9809
    @spiderhouse9809 4 месяца назад

    Why don't you have pause on notifications

  • @yanigamezZ
    @yanigamezZ Год назад +1

    I can't make a faction with liberia

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад

      It's probably because they got the neutrality spirit.
      You can try doing a different democratic nation with a small amount of factories like panama

  • @pasta_la_vista_baby
    @pasta_la_vista_baby Год назад +1

    This the most broken, cheesy abuse of mechanics in the game... and i must try it

  • @joejoebatmanjjb8704
    @joejoebatmanjjb8704 Год назад +1

    Couldn’t you order 66?

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад +1

      You could, but I personally find that to be less fun than actual fighting and it feels more rewarding to earn it more legitimately

    • @joejoebatmanjjb8704
      @joejoebatmanjjb8704 Год назад +1

      @@hatless_spider fair enough

  • @ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo
    @ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Tuvans are Turkic and were part of the large Turkic empires like the Gokturk.

  • @milan5024
    @milan5024 Год назад

    i cant invite liberia (they dont have neutreal foreign policy)

  • @jsaurman
    @jsaurman Год назад

    Title of the video says "Insanely easy" but at the end of the video he says "Insanely complicated" which it is. Deceptive advertising.

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider  Год назад

      Hmm, i was referring to the fact that a normal playthrough with tannu tuva without exploits would be super difficult.
      So in that sense, this is far easier, despite being a complicated strategy

  • @markfenoel
    @markfenoel Год назад +1

    i did it

  • @Average_Enjoyer1
    @Average_Enjoyer1 Год назад

    Does he know?

  • @f.vorstermans1605
    @f.vorstermans1605 5 месяцев назад

    update it plz

    • @f.vorstermans1605
      @f.vorstermans1605 5 месяцев назад

      cause i have the problem that they wont give me expeditionaries

  • @IsaacFishmanFoilhat
    @IsaacFishmanFoilhat 4 месяца назад

    Dude this is just not easy

  • @Levumbych
    @Levumbych Год назад +1

    Слава Крабам!