Lionel Messi looked like a 'broken man' in loss to Croatia | ESPN FC
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- Craig Burley, Stevie Nicol, Shaka Hislop and Alejandro Moreno lay into Jorge Sampaoli and analyze Lionel Messi's negative body language during and after Argentina's embarrassing defeat to Croatia in the World Cup.
✔ Subscribe to ESPN on RUclips: es.pn/SUBSCRIBE...
✔ Subscribe to ESPN FC on RUclips: bit.ly/SUBSCRIB...
✔ Subscribe to NBA on ESPN on RUclips: bit.ly/SUBSCRIB...
✔ Watch ESPN on RUclips TV: es.pn/RUclipsTV
ESPN on Social Media:
► Follow on Twitter: / espn
► Like on Facebook: / espn
► Follow on Instagram: / espn
Visit ESPN on RUclips to get up-to-the-minute sports news coverage, scores, highlights and commentary for NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA, College Football, NCAA Basketball, soccer and more.
More on ESPN.com: www.espn.com
Everybody talking about how Argentina lost the match, but nobody about how Croatia won it.
You have to admit that whether Argentina had problems or not, after that first goal the Croatian team looked like it could score 6 more, and after the second goal they started toying with Argentina like it was a local playground game.
Well done by the boys in the checkered kits, well done!
Fellow Traveler good point man. Those man at this show has no knowlege to football...
After the clip they talk about Croatia .They should have highlighted how organized Croatia was though
THANKS GUYS
You are the man. Respect
Exactly..... BUT they would come up with excuses and say that Messi didnt want to play the game anyway or that he cant do it alone and so on lol. Only excuses, excuses and excuses.....
Messi fanboys are right Messi is magician. His disappearance act today was one of the best .
Lmaooo
RmRW R that shit is funny. I love Messi but at the end of the day you are quite right.
Hahaha. Overhyped one team wonder. That was a good one. Doing the magician and disappearing.
😂😂 👌
Lmao
He had the same face when he lost the copa america.... That's tough
That's Tuff
Wuzo he can't do it all by himself unfortunately. ARG's midfield and defense is laughable imo
Sam Fisher just fuck off (sorry for my language) there's no point arguing. He couldn't score the winning penalty against Iceland mate. Just stop.
People need to stop comparing Missi to the goat 🐐🇵🇹
Sam Fisher Their midfield would be laughable if they had one to begin with
Messi didnt even look like he wanted to be there.
Darksky1001able he got too rich.
He didn't want to be there.
He’s too rich and done plays by soccer rip Argentina and rip Messi
Did he not say after the last world cup that he was considering not playing with the team again
you think messi cares about money ? this is about his legacy.
Messi is a magician. Today's disappearance act was one of his best performances
yup, he disappeared right in front of us
Lol!
is he playing in this world cup?
😂😂😂😂😂
Kevin Kelly 😂😂
Messi bla bla...Messi bla bla blaaa...
Croatia played fantastic!
Messi blah blah blah blah ⭐️⭐️⭐️ 🏆
You know it's bad when England look better than Argentina
you know its bad when iceland might take Argentinians spot to the knock out stage.
If this was Ronaldo it would all be down to him lol! These guys are Messi apologists
How ?
@AlIke Messi getting carring in PSG and in Argentina 🇦🇷
@@barakobama9743 come on our
@Al di maría Higuaín carried Messi
Creating scenarios in your head. Ronaldo has received far less criticism for his disasterclasses over the years from ESPN than he deserved. Part of it is because his team has won anyway despite the disasterclass, but he's also lost many games after a disasterclass
So now it’s the team! Not Messi not doing anything at all! If this was Ronaldo they will absolutely get on him! Gtfoh! Guys
You obviously didbt watch the video the whole time they talked about how messi wasbt in the game
That Croatia vs Argentina game was very................Messi 😂
Well done
It was wasn’t it? 😎🤣
@@Mark90921Never in disguise silence...cry
Why does the media always try to separate Messi from the rest of the team? He’s apart of the collective as well and he hasn’t been playing good either! If this was any other player in the GOAT conversation they’d be getting massacred for this performance! I understand the other players aren’t playing well but that’s when you need your talisman to at least TRY something to stem the tide and Messi did nothing but walk around the pitch emotionless!
Think about if the roles were switched Ronaldo had 0 goals in 2 games and Messi had 4 goals in 2 games Ronaldo would be hammered
Iambigjones thats what CR7 is doing for Portugal..
They already try to protect Messi I swear. He needs his world class midfielders at Barcelona to play to his max potential otherwise he’s just an average footballer. I mean Argentina is so damn easy to gameplay for
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS
If they are so easy to gameplay for then how is it Messi fault?
Of course the media will leave Messi out...he is a nice and humble person...why would you insult him? That is also the reason he's the best player of all time...being humble makes you win games and that's how Messi will win the world cup ...mark my words...I know what I'm talking about
Typical Blame everyone BUT Messi and the players. This team has years of experience and come up with nothing. Ronaldo does not have the class players on his side but has the mental Strength! He was bowing his head before the game started !!!! #Ronaldo the Goat
Yeah, but the side is truly built around Cristiano Ronaldo. Crosses into the box, they play to his strength. Argentina are clueless in the final third, no movement around Lionel Messi.
You clearly don't know. Portugal have a system and 4 year process. Argentina has nothing. No system or identity. How the fuck do you expect a team to play. Messi knows he has nothing to work upon.
Bruv at least you can name some of the Portuguese players, who is Perez, Acuña, Meza, who are these ppl? I saw this guy Meza take a corner, and the ball went from the corner straight into the side net, never even went on the pitch, so a really cannot think that we can say that this Argentina side is better than Portugal
T Madina yeah nani, bernardo silva, moutinho, pepe, rui patricio are shit players. Thanks for acknowledging it in advance.
Roy I DONT GIVEBA FUCK messi has better players he has the greatest attack in the world has Di Maria in mid, otamendi, masherano in defence if they ain’t working well that’s their problem, he ain’t faced any contending team yet can’t score they got the best attack in the whole tournament yet can’t score stop chatting shit bout their defence apart from Pepe who does Portugal have on defence? If u saw their latest game their left side got exposed n they lucked out. The difference is ronaldo takes it upon himself to get the W. If u say Argentina can’t defend then where’s the goals? They ain’t faced ONE tournament contender!! Seriously stop making excuses for messi.
Modrid and rakitic best midfield duo in this competition. Croatia are going far in this tournament.
Until a better midfield duo pogba and kante
@@LoftusBlake 😂😂🤣maybe in Africa
@Sebastian Ebanks yeah they went to the final
@@LoftusBlake Kante was joke in final....he was virtually non existent in that game! He was so bad that coach subbed him in 2nd half and after they said he had stomach problems😂 Like Croatia didn't have problems with goalkeeper injured and playing on one leg and concited 2 stupid goals that would never go in if he was healthy! But they didn't cry after about it like Franch did... Oh oh oh... pure little Kante... he was feeling sick, right?! I tell you why he had stomach problems... cause he was dominated so hard by our midfiled trio Brozovic - Modric - Rakitic that after 50min of the game he had to go and take a medical treatment of how much they spun him around the pitch 😂
@@bizzobrigante1588 Get over it and stop crying,I can see the saltiness in your comments.
Messi is a barcelona product. He was brought up in their system as a teenager with midfielders like xavi, iniesta and busquets. If you gonna be called the GOAT you must play at your best in any team and in any league. Messi in Barcelona and Messi in Argentine are 2 different players. Thats not how Pele, Maradona, Ronaldo Brazilian, or Zidane played, these Goats played well everywhere. Even Cristiano dont matter where ha plays
Manchester United, Real madrid or Portugal, Cristiano alwys produces goals for his team
dont matter the league, champions league the Euro or the WC. He is good everywhere thats the big differnce between Cristiano and Messi. And even if you dont win games you must score goals for you team as a leader.
100% accurate!!!!!! messi is a alright player though
Faxx
@@fobikloko6368 hi from the future. Wanna have this Convo now or you gonna ignore it?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@shemarebanks9879nah, they all crawled under a rock
Ronaldo screws up: his time is over
Messi screws up: it's not his fault
Just give me some kind of context or evidence to support your statement.
blurry face watch their videos lol so simple
Ronaldo is nowhere near as good a smessi period
j ross so why does Messi Choke with that team
omotayo lacon how does Messi choke? Please explain? And tell me how Argentina would be in the World Cup with out Messi? Or if they would even be in a final with out Messi? Because we all know portugal won a final with out Ronaldo.
Ronaldo NEVER gives up on his team.
If he had a team like this Argentine team he would. Fact is, Portugal has a better team without CR7 than Argentina has without Messi. This is why Portugal won the Euro's with CR7 not playing up to his standards and missing the finals. Argentina only made it to the WC cuz of Messi, without him they would be at home.
Oberyn Martell stop the b.s...Argentina is far more talented...
*Sigh*. I said Portugal was the better team, not the more talented. Yes Argentina possessed more talented/skilled players but as a team are shit. Portugal as a group had less talent but were more cohesive. What's BS about that? You are going to tell me Argentina plays well as a team? After all, it is a "team" sport.
Oberyn Martell being more talented makes them the better team...now If you say chemistry wise they're not like Portugal that's a different story.
Having more talented players just means they have more talented players and not a better team. Those talented players still need to be able to have the right chemistry, working together as a untied front, Argentina did not have that here and through majority of the qualifiers.
Argentina have better individual talents than Iceland and Croatia, did that make them the better team?
Yes. I wanted to see these Messi fanboys explain themselves
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS Messi was named the goat years before this year by legends of the game stop the nonsense
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS where was Ronaldo in the 2014 World Cup?
JohnP injured struggling and fighting for his team
stupid shit he failed and then won the euro 2016!! and dont u give me that eder reference!! because lionel midget was a no show in 2014 after grp stage it was higuain's goal that took them to semifinal where they won at penalty!! btw whose goal and assist took portugal to euro final??? so stop this immature comparison!! cr7 can play anywhere messi cant hence cr7 is the real GOAT!!
JohnP ok well last time I checked Messi had a chance to tie in the 2014 World Cup final and proceeded to blast a free kick opportunity 20 yards over the goal in the 90th. And I’m not even trying to use that as an argument because that was 4 years ago. THIS YEAR Ronaldo fucking bossed up and scored a free kick in the 88th to tie and to seal a hat trick. Messi fucking sucks for Argentina just admit it. He literally needs his world class midfielders at Barcelona to set him up he simply cannot play without them. He’s great at Barcelona but crumbles internationally. Ronaldo is just a stud no matter what team he is on
Hmm, Ronaldo wasn't even in these pundits chosen eleven. Messi was walking the whole game
luke Levi finally someone under stands Messi was doing the same thing against Iceland
Stfu stump
you weak minded don't understand, world cup matches are 11 vs 11 players unlike la liga games, besides I got a better idea why you don't go play a world cup match its easy to open your mouth as Maradona opening his mouth yet he was one of the worst couches for Argentina pffts wake up morons
He uses his energy in bursts and has been doing the same thing his entire career. It was a team of head asses who didnt know how to move the ball around. Nothing was his fault
Exactly
Messi has Dybala, Di Maria, Aguero, Higauin. Ronaldo has no team mate of that calibre at international level. The GOAT debate is over.
TheoKabala89 lol none of his goals have impressed me except for his freekick, a penalty, goalkeeper mistake and a tap in header. Nothing crazy about this, and the bottom line is ronaldo doesn’t need support cause he is just an ego messi isn’t
Ray D076 At least he can score goals unlike Messi. Has Messi’s penalty vs Iceland impressed you? Has his free kicks and solo goals impressed you this World Cup? Has Messi’s headers impressed you?
Portugals midfield, defense and goalkeepers were better than Argentinas....they had Bernardo silva, Moutinho, bruno Fernandez , Rui Patricio...all the players you mentioned for Argentina are attackers, who can't function without a good midfield...and Portugals solidity was highlighted in euro 2016 final, where they won without Ronaldo
@@raymon076 u need to start watching football
@Bruno Sousa hmm he was important but some people act like Ronaldo did everything by himself, that's what im countering against...they act like Portugals gonna fall apart without Ronaldo, which isn't the case
Coming back to this after Messi won the World Cup. We were in the trenches Messi Nation, but God had a plan for us. We got the last laugh in the end.
Looking back at the comments is hilarious, The fact Ronaldo fans are trying to backtrack and play the sympathy card after all the trash talking they did is hilarious. They deserve this suffering.
To be fair, Messi didn‘t even try to get into a position where he could have gotten the ball. Biggest disappointment of the tournament...
L 05 it was his teammates who Let him down
alex kanyima - Especially today, I was following every move of every player and they just didn‘t try at all to get the ball to Messi. I wanted so badly for Messi to succeed this year but it‘s just been an absolute disaster. The world cup is ruined and over for me.
No excuse bud ....... I am a messi fan, but with the team they have big names they doing nothing but shit ..... n on other side ronaldo is wat a leader does ,any team u put him he will win
L 05
He'll have to step up if they want to win. In Barcelona, his teammates can create him enough space for a penetrating run. Bit with Argentina, he'll have to run more to receive the ball, most likely receive under pressure.
Also, he just seems confused.
sampauli is fucking dickhead
3 at the back? with bang avg defenders
argentina best formation 433
di maria aguero messi
dybala
masherano pastore (not chosen by dickhead)
I only came here to see their excuse for messi 😂😂😂
Same 😂
hahahaha same!
fedrick nongrum same
i only came here to see the predictable messi haters
tbh😂
THE GOAT DISCUSSION HAS ENDED, CR7 IS THE 🐐
😂😂😂😂😂😂 who ended u give me one legend of the game who believe that
Jareth Cruz how? Is the World Cup over? Is Portugal the champs already??
Insane Sharks like cr7 fans are so blind that the man scored not the perfect hat-rick and start calling him the goat how stupid can u be
Jareth Cruz bitch no he ain’t u idiot
Don't be stupid. Messi carried argentina to the 2014 final. What happened to ronaldo in 2014?
Whenever I feel bad for trolling the Ronaldo fanboys, I return to this comment section.
Broo this had me rolling lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now they playing victim with moye moye song😂😂
@@manvendrasinghdeora4204Lol 😂😂😂😂
What a beautiful game, absolutely loved watching Argentina get TRASHED by Croatia!
Me too 😂
Looks like ronaldo and Messi switched roles from the last World Cup lmfao
Edit:holy shit some of the excuses that these fellas are making for Messi,i would love to see some of these fellas cut Ronaldo the same slack mhmm🤔
Professor Mineta bro Portugal team is trash they getting nowhere
Nizar Alami thanks for proving my point???? You’re exactly right,this team is butt cheeks but at least they’re getting out of the team due to the leader ronaldo...lmfao you should’ve thought before you made such a stupid comment.
Professor Mineta Stupid idiot watch them lose to Iran and get the fuck out😂😂😂😂
Nizar Alami Iran will get rape
Professor Mineta wasn't Ronaldo carrying an injury in 2014?
I hate how ESPN fc team talk about Messi always finding a excuse for him. Y?
angel spike Messi fan boys. I been watching ESPN FC from 2016 never have respect for Cristiano Ronald name CR7 is the greatest Of all time goal scoring plus a leader for club n country
Fr why so many excuses for the so called “goat” disgusting
Just like Lebum in the nba
Biased that’s why
Always !!
Messi is the only reason why Dybala isn't in the starting 11 and Icardi isn't even on the squad...Everybody knows and even Icardi himself has said that he isn't a part of Messi's clique and Messi has stated in May that he and Dybala are playing in the same position so they can't be at the lineup together... Messi was nowhere to be found in this game and at the first game he missed the penalty and with that, the opportunity to give Argentina the 3 points. No more excuses for Messi...
Well, nobody likes Icardi regardless. He wouldn't have been in the team anyway.
HSC MUFC wtf is their actual problem ? You don't care about him at all
I think all the older guys in the team don`t like Icardi for that Maxi Lopez thing.
Dybala is one of their best footballers, he has to play REGARDLESS of position. Messi needed to swallow his ego and either change positions or urge to the coach for Dybala to fit in elsewhere. But next World Cup, Dybala will be the one who is calling the shots in regard to team makeup, not Messi, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see Messi playing out of position next time around, if he plays.
Mrrdrizzy wtf ?
coming back after winning the wcup 2022.
no one speaks how unfair argentina played in this match, their behaviour was a disgrace
pa d same with Morocco bro.
I really don’t understand what people wanted Messi to do in this game. Do they want him to run past 11 players without passing to anyone. IT IS A TEAM. Beating one player alone is difficult enough, you need one-two’s, throughballs, dribbles, & some sort of support from teammates. You can see Messi trying to create, by dribbling, trying one-twos and stuff but his support isn’t there.
E .S solo goals always come from the help of good movement & positioning from team mates to create space. For example messi’s solo goal vs Real Madrid in he UCL. No one can score a solo goal when the opposition is parking he bus and are fouling you each time you have the ball.
Not only that, they also wanted him to run to the defense and help there too since quite frankly Argentina had none today
get fouled and score freekick then
ex- ''ronaldo knew portugal wasnt doing anything vs spain in last 10 mins so he baited pique and got freekick'' Jose m.
everyone knows MESSI at freekick is beast!!
Bhavesh Kahane “get fouled and score a freekick” like it’s that simple...
Ronaldo hadn’t scored a freekick in 43 or so attempts. They’re difficult to score. Secondly, in order to win a freekick you need to get fouled in the right areas... to get fouled in the right areas you need to be able to dribble into dangerous areas, which can only be done if there is movement and support.
Nowadays people expect so much from Messi, I know he’s the best in the world but he’s still human. No one expects Ronaldo to dribble past 11 players and score so why should messi.
E.S Loved the last comment/reply to thugalizer
Messi is a terrific player. His ability is raw and beautiful. There is no one like him when it comes to dribbling and things of that nature. BUT, he's not Cristiano Ronaldo. You can blame Sampaoli, you can blame his teammates, and rightfully so, but he's their supposed leader and he's been nonexistent. They talk about how Argentina have struggled to get him the ball, well was he making it easy for them? No, he was making it very difficult by strutting around and barely jogging. Furthermore, Ronaldo has a universal play style. His style of play is predicated on off ball movement, via runs, and brilliant counter attacking play. All you have to do is either send him, cross it to him or wait for him to initiate a counter attack with his speed. This is a very simple style of play that anyone of any skill set can play. That's one of the reasons why Portugal has been successful. Another reason why portugal is great is because of Ronaldo's leadership. He motivates his teammates and leads by example. He demonstrates a great work ethic and is as vocal as anybody. Messi hangs his head low, and shows lack of energy or care. I understand his team is underperforming and this would aggravate any normal person, but if he wants to be the undisputed best, he has to show some more passion. Lastly, Messi's style of play is heavily reliant on him having great supporting midfielders and creative maestros such as Iniesta or Xavi. Ever since Iniesta lost a step and Xavi left, you've seen a decrease in Messi's overall success. Messi requires players who can keep up with him when it comes to linking up, but he needs to understand not everyone can play that kind of football. Argentina has one of the best attacking lines international football has ever seen, Ronaldo would have the time of his life playing with that much speed and talent up front. His counter attacking style of play would perfectly suit them. This is why CR7 is the GOAT for me.
I'll give u that ronaldo has better leadership than messi
Victor Moyabi Better? He shits on him. Like chalk and cheese.
Laz Maroulis I am messi fan but totally agree to you
Victor Moyabi like Argentina doesn't have a leader on the team. Nobody speaks up, nobody shows emotion, they all just look confused or in Messi's case defeated. Messi's their best player, he's not their leader.
Sarim Shabee thank you for being honest, it's okay to like Messi, I love Messi, but in my opinion he lacks the criteria to be the best ever. Messi's reliant on a specific type of play while Ronaldo is very diverse, he can play with anything or anyone. That's what separates them for me.
Messi apologist. They crusify ron aldo neymar and pogba but excuses for Messi. When he score he is a genius nd the saviour of football. When he lose its the coach and the team
Astro Mars How many times will they keep blaming the coach? Didn't Argentina have to fire their coach in 2016 after Messi missed a penalty and retired? Messi is the captain and the leader of the team, its his job to make his teammates better.
Bernard Brunu thank you. You are so correct man
How can you not see how the manager is to blame? He's the one who decides the formation, and team, which he got completely wrong against Croatia. Messi can't always be expected to save the day, especially in a team where you have players making massive mistakes, like Caballero did, and the Argentine defence have been doing. He didn't have a single chance created for him either.
Messi though has elevated Argentina in his time as a player. He's been key in them reaching three finals in a row. Take him out of the equation and they wouldn't have even qualified for this world cup. They won 1 game out of 8 in qualifying without him.
Also, Messi wasn't the only Argentine player to miss his penalty in that 2016 Copa final... Biglia did too. Vidal also missed his for Chile, yet ended up on the winning side. And In the 2015 copa final, Messi was the only Argentine player to score his penalty in the shootout, which they lost. That's just bad luck. He's also played alongside a player (Higuain) who's missed three chances in three finals. He can't be blamed for things like that.
Gfresh844 but you guys give him all the credit when his team wins. U say stuff like he is carrying Argentina on his back etc
well said bro, well said
Messi "The Playmaker" got beaten by the true playmaker Modric
@Pimping 4life lol nope
@@giulianofazlic170 your playmaker couldn't play make when he lost 5-0
Where is Modric "The World's Best Player" now?
Modric is the real number 10 what a player, this World Cup proved that Real Madrid stars are on another level.
Spain is already pretty bad in terms of their own standard but Argggentina is unacceptable.
Alan KS Spain is a bit different
Alan KS Spain has a new coach so basically they are a renewed side.
Of course they will have some flaws in their game🙄
Alan KS lol spain are one of the best 3 teams what are you on about
Seriously? Spain is arguably the best team
That's the key difference between him and Ronaldo: The leadership and the mental attitude.
When Ronaldo's team is losing he cheers up his team-mates and a lot of times contributes with goals (like against Juventus in th ucl quarter-finals this season and against Spain this world cup). In the other hand the gestures and body language of Messi when he's losing (against Roma this season in the ucl quarter-finals and now against Croatia are just some of the examples) are just self-defeating.
SO Ronaldo is better because he's a cheerleader?? Weak argument
Cameron Auguste
he's a leader. messi is not. messi cannot give players confidence. messi is great but his team is lost.
Cameron Auguste lmao I think the point is going over your head.
António Pardal you also have to consider while barca had a decline in the midfield real Madrid Had a massive upgrade over the years. Modric and kroos together, highlighted by their performance in this WC. That has also helped Ronaldo. The debate is a lot more interesting now since both players had enjoyed era's of midfield maestros and genius coaches in guardialo and zidane.
Rapenaldo only knows to Rape woman couldn't do shit against sevilla got pissed of by tottenham in wembley. Missed penalty against iran but got carried by quaresma got injure in 2016 euro got carried by eder.
THE Difference is ronaldo is always carried and Messi always carries.
“Broken men” if it was Ronaldo they’d be saying “he’s not a leader” “he’s getting old” blah blah blah
Hakim Cardoso exactly; Ronny is old.. but uhhh he is the superior athlete even if older.
Who cares about age.. it’s what’s done on the field.
To bad the sport is broken in this sense. (Always trying to bring in 18 -21 year olds) when there are way better 27-35 year olds who are unheard of.
It’s boring watching pro games while being better than the pros yourself.
Too often I think.. that guy is rich as fuck .. and I’m way the fuck better/
Looking at England’s whole national team right now. lol
Yeah dude,u r correct
Messi with the record of "11 games of round 8 at Champions league, 87 shootings, 0goals"
😢
Who is here after Argentina 3 - Croatia 0 2022 semi win?
Here after Messi won the World Cup.
👏🏽
Perfect wc same opponents as previous wcs lmao
The coaches simply put Messi on a pedestal and tell 10 other guys to go out and play for him. Sampaoli now, Madonna 2010 - both times the result was that the team was torn apart by the first really good team they encountered. The one time the coach formed a team and placed Messi in it Argentina reached the final and put up a fight.
Messi is as much to blame as the rest of the team,they haven't shown up to the tournament period
Thuso Mogwera bullshit excuse
Alexs it's the truth Argentina haven't shown up to the tournament their last two games they haven't been good enough
alex kanyima how did he even give an excuse?
Thuso Mogwera 2ç
NO EXCUSES HE WILL NEVER BE THE GREAT DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA FRANCO. This man always flops for his country, never rises to the occasion, created nothing. How can people honestly say he’s the greatest ever?
Keita and Fabinho Apologist That guy was a coke head.
Look at the goalscoring record, look at the trophy cabinet. Maradona was fantastic, but Messi surpassed him a while ago. Its between him and Pele for #1.
Keita and Fabinho Apologist you are very mad
What a fool you must be
You have totally forgotten 2014
Fuck you and your hate
vincent Alexis in 2014 mascherano was their best player and they didn’t win the World Cup. Messi flopped in the semis and final, go pocketed by boateng. Sorry to tell you the truth
HSC MUFC omg..lol thanks for the laugh. Messi and pele greatest ever ahahahahahahahahah.
you would think Argentina played against Messi from what these guys are saying.
Well, that was pretty much the case
All those using Messi’s struggle to justify Ronaldo being greater than him are just exposing their insecurity. After yesterday’s game I realized how hard it is for him to even carry this team especially in a team that can’t string 4 passes to save their lives. Messi can’t do it alone, just as Ronaldo wouldn’t be anywhere if it weren’t for the team behind him. Messi is just very unlucky that he not only has to carry his nation, but also Barca for the past few years. A player like Messi is not a once in a lifetime player, He’s a player that I believe we will not see his like ever again. I am done with my hopes of him winning a world cup, because let’s face it: It most likely will probably never happen. However, as I said above he is a player whose like we will never see again, that is why he is the GOAT. Not winning a world cup. For all I care Portugal can win this world cup, and Ronaldo can win the next 10 champions leagues, he can stroke his chin with his fingers all he wants or shove them up his own ass for all I care, he and everyone else knows that he will never get close to Messi, no matter how good he is. If Messi wins a world cup, good for him, just another achievement that he accomplished. For now fuck it, I am sad that he likely won’t win it, but let’s enjoy his slaloming and all the other magic this guy does, something that truly gives me the joy that nothing else does. The joy I feel when I see his magic on a weekly basis is a special kind of joy and I will just enjoy it for the time we have left of him because let’s face it he’s already 31 and he isn’t getting younger. It is those feelings that I feel that make Messi the GOAT and no one can ever take that away from me, and it shouldn’t for anyone else of you guys. I’ve said my piece.
You are a real one💙
Hope your enjoying the little magician lift his dream
Great1 Good for you. I agree with you. We'll probably never see a player like him again. He's 36 now, won WC when he was 35, was top player in Europe with a useless and toxic PSG. And now he's killing it in the US>
Why the hell is every CR7 lover saying in the comment section that ESPN FC is making excuses for Messi
They did criticised him
But it was mainly Sampoli's fault
The team was totally disorganized,unstructured and seemed to have no planning
I have never seen any team with such preparation in the world cup
It's a wonder how this team even made it into the world cup
And yes CR7 lovers Messi didn't perform well
I am a Messi lover but I like CR7
But don't put everything on Messi
Modric has specifically stated that they had tactically covered Messi so that he doesn't receive the ball
Adarsh Hota bro have you seen portugals games? They have no structure what so ever but cr7 still finds a way to pull it off
How is it Sampaoli's fault if Messi wasn't interested in playing?
No wars For Israel
Who said he cannot be criticized?
He is making a statement based on earlier discussions where this panel of Cristiano haters always speak negative of Cr7..
This is not about some mean comments. Portugal, Croatia, Poland, those teams were absolutly trashed in 2016 by european, and intermational media just to make the point that Ronaldo and Portugal were bad champions. Croatia just proved how deluded they were.
"They couldn't get Messi into the game"
That is the difference right there. Ronaldo doesn't need any one else to get him into the game.
ur stupid so who gives ronaldo the ball to score himself fool
Nope..... Ronaldo needs a Modric, Benzema, Isco, Bale, Kroos, Marcelo......like how He had Rooney too..... Now he has Dybala and Whole Juventus with him...…. if so why don't he play like this with Napoli or Stoke city?
Ronaldo the real one/Brazil Ronaldo/?!
Tf u mean? Ronaldo literally needs everyone to cross to him so he can score meanwhile messi creates+Scores
cuz Messi is marked by 3 players and Ronaldo only by one...and Ronaldo plays with world class players so idk what your on about
Luka Modrić vs R7 this year for best ply..
Cr7 not R7
Best diverse panel ever, Latino, French, Scottish, Irish and Australian? And they know the game well and their analysis was spot on.
Messi deserves so much better than what people are doing to him
He finally got what he deserved
i wanted to see them talk more about how amazing croatia looked
Congratulations Hrvatska for a fantastic win! Great players, young and handsome Slavic men.
hard to be the “GOAT” when you dont have prime Xavi, Iniesta, Dani Alves, Alba etc there to take the pressure off and set u up... forget world cup... pls win Copa America at least..
Hard to be the GOAT when you're in a team with an incompetent coach that can't pick the right players or stick to one system and keeps changing it
@@lucaslonchampt613 Messi chokes too much on a regular basis
Sorry! Messi is no Maradona or r9, they are in a different level.
Messi won a Ballon D'or, IFFHS Playmaker award and a European Golden shoe without prime Xavi, Iniesta and Dani Alves. Don't bring Alba into this😂, the reason why Alba is relevant in the wingback game is cause he's fed long passes and throughballs BY Messi. Any team and player requires chemistry and a defensive structure to function
@@abhinavaditya9433
I dont see any GOAT in Leo, he is to weak.
We always love and support u Leo messi. Ur the best in the world
Messi is a emotion the chances he created was nice till now he should not blamed he is a king ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for not crediting Croatia at all.Even with Argentina playing bad Croatia played one of the best games of whole world cup.AJMO HRVATSKA ZA PRVAKA!HERCEG BOSNA JE UZ SVOJE!
Messi fan boys triggered
Ronaldo fanboys in the MUD
It was sad to see this game...Argentina has no direction of play, no organization or chemistry. Messi can only do so much, he brought them here but they’ve failed to come around him. Messi isn’t innocent but he can only do so much.
fbi10 but that is a actual problem
alex kanyima Messi isn’t the problem though it’s the system the coach has in place. He can’t have Messi drop so far deep in the midfield trying to create for his team mates. The Barca system is from years of perfection, Argentina needs to develop a system that is compatible with their weapons.
SCALONI proved us right …
SAMPAOLI destroyed this squad
As a Croatian let me tell you the main key to this great team no ego play. It's coach Dalic. He sent Kalinic away because he was a diva. Now atmosphere in the locker room is even better. It's been a long time since we had a great coach. Guy is a great sport psychologist, players coach with healthy authority. He is bringing the best out of this great generation. People wondered why Modric and Rakitic don't play as well for the international team. Well, they played wrong positions, other players as well. Finally a GREAT coach.
Let me tell you that I'm hopping that Croatia reaches the final, just love the mentality of the team, the organisation and of course a lot of skill in there. If you guys still had Suker you would probably be the best squad in the World Cup. I'm from Portugal and if we get knocked out I will be supporting Croatia all the way. Good luck in the tournament!
Since you are a Portugal fan let me tell you that I changed my mind on the goat discussion. CR7 is a beast! He can take over the game ANYTIME he wants. One player can't beat you? Well Ronaldo can! People may think he is arrogant and honestly that's why I liked little humble Messi more, but Ronaldo breaths eats sleeps football! He is possessed! His heart can not be questioned especially in the last Euros. And if I had to choose Messi or Ronaldo to play in my team? I'm taking Ronaldo in a heartbeat. If Croatia loses I'm cheering for Portugal! Loved Portugal ever since Figo and Nuno Gomes.
@@lordina1struggled to beat Morocco but other than that spot on 🙌
Messi has flopped on the big stage ONCE AGAIN. The debate is over, Ronaldo has proven time and time again he's the GOAT.
I love how they barely even mentioned Croatia but just talked about the shitty performance by Argentina.
Imagine if this was Cristiano ´´sitting on the side``.. you hould have crucified him.. not say he was ´´broken``
Finally a dude with some brains!!
Nah, with the amount of arrogance he displayed and called himself the best? It was called for. He still feels this way too
The way they are defending messi If only they would defend CR7 the same way if he played so poorly in such a major game.Hypocrisy is unreal.Just to be clear Not blaming Messi for the defeat entirely just highlighting the hypocrisy
Ronaldo deserves far more criticism from ESPN for his disasterclasses. I don't remember any criticism for Bayern 2018 or Liverpool 2018 performances. Or Atletico 2022 and the list goes on.
Ronaldo the ‘goat’ 🐐 of fifa w cup 2018
Yup 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Messi should clean shave now. Maybe that will work!
zee good point
He stated that he wouldn’t shave his beard until he wins a trophy for Argentina. He said that in 2016 before the Copa America final and I’m guessing he was hoping he would win it then
Clean Shaven and no Tattoos
strawhats100 What's wrong with tattoos? Almost every footballer playing in the World Cup has at least one if not a sleeve of tattoos on their arms and legs.
He should also grow his hair long.
Croatia 3-0 Argentina is the biggest game of the world cup so far. It shows that a traditional power has fallen hard, a candidate for best all time player just simply isn't, and a new era of soccer where second tier teams like Croatia also pose a very real threat to even the world's best has dawned. (argentina isn't the world's best but the 3-0 scoreline should be enough to alert teams like Brazil) No longer will south Korea or El Salvador get thumped by 9 goals. No longer will Saudi Arabia lose by 8. Even the weakest teams could be within 2 goals or so of the strongest, and about half the teams in the tournament are potentially able to steal points from Germany, including a round of 16 level Mexico. due to the accelerating speed of globalization, it is an unavoidable trend that differences between nations get smaller.
Messi against "some" organized defence, can do nothing. Especially when there is no Xavi nor Iniesta!!!
Jason Lee exactly!!!
That statement is so stupid.
stfu
Absolutely nothing 🤣🤣🤡
Messi looked devastated even during the national anthem
He’s amazing, but he’s given all hope on the international level
What is worse by far once the game was over Messi went right away , didn't shake hand with Cro players like usually players do. Very sad
"Messi can't do everything by him self" the fanboy excuse😂😂
GOAT :v lmfao
GOAT :v Right after all the fan boys said Messi will win the game. Now all a sudden they remember that there's a team on the field when they need someone to blame for his fuckup.
GOAT :v how is he meant to play with a goalkeeper like that, defence like that and midfield like that ? You are so insecure
Kamil Malina dude he missed a penalty when his team needed him the most, and he was nonexistent against croatia...sometimes you got to accept that it was his fault they didn't win
Kamil Malina He has one of the best team its the exact same team from 2014 no excuses for Messi
for me, Messi makes team play much more difficultly. 😓😓😓😓😓
Yea 😓😓😓😓
And this is the man that these guys constantly advertise as the GOAT... Wat a joke
Ronaldo would never just give up like Messi did.
Messi literally carries Argentina in and out since years. Portugal even can win an international Trophy without Ronaldo that's how good they are
@@harrykane_ We are Champions of Europe thanks to the greatesr player of all time. Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro. And we hold onto the title for another year... Fantastic
ESPN analysis are all Barcelona and Argentina fans-boy, they find all types of excuses for pessi and blame the other players....😂😂...CR7 those not have half the players messi but still cr7 get things done and happening💯
You are a Ronaldo fangirl who is blind to see how bad actually Argentina are. Messi has been carrying them for years playing all over the pitch. Meanwhile Ronaldo? Freaking scores staying in the box and also they won the euro without him in the final. Argentina would never be able to do that
Ronaldo scores a penalty and a free kick two minutes from the end of the game against Spain. Messi, in the same situation can't do it against an Iceland team that has a dentist as a manager and a fireman as the goal keeper. Messi just doesn't have the BALLS & CHARACTER.
Should have thing before u type
Putting messi in argentina current team is just like you instal the v8 engine of ferrari to the school bus, its still good, but wont be running well of course.
Its not over Leo,
It's just not over❤
for real
You were right
shout out to messi for pulling the biggest finesse job in sports history lmao people really believed he was the goat
Martin Rosario he is
Martin Rosario the goat doesnt give up on his team.. Messi great at barca, nonexistent in Argentina, Ronaldo great at united = great at madrid = great at portugal.. Whos the real goat??
messi is the goat. remember when Portugal won the European Championship against France without Ronaldo? Argentina can't win anything without Messi. Look at their stats without him. Messi is the GOAT on a horrible team. Ronaldo is on a great team.
Jonah A lmao horrible team, dybala, higuain, aguero, di maria, otamendi, in 2014 add zabaleta, banega, pastore all starter for top teams
Ronaldo got quaresma + nani, and?? Without ronaldo header in semis, Portugal wont make the finals, and in the finals ronaldo straight up coaching them and keep making portugal competitive, and whos score the goal?? Fukcin ederson!! Thats how great his mentality is.. Messi quit on his team, and look disinterested.. Sorry but hes no captain with that body language
FFS Ronaldo makes renato sanchez, andre gomes and ederson looks like good player after euros.. Lmaos now they're nonexistent
People are saying Ronaldo is the goat just cause he's played two good games and right now have a good world cup? Well if that's the case then Messi should have been the goat in the WC 2014! People come to conclusions to soon! Just wait until both of them retire. Both have disappeared in big games.
Tomate 1996 It’s much harder to disappear against Croatia and Iceland than U.S and Germany.
STPZ 007 You don’t have to be a fanboy to know that the U.S and Germany are better than Iceland and Croatia. Keep crying Missi fanboy.
STPZ 007 I’m not American, but you can easily say that 4 years ago, the U.S was much better than Iceland is today. Keep crying fucking Missi fanboy.
Even thou i'm not a fan of Messi but I fell sympathy for him when I look him like broken man
Messi
You have to do the best performance to stun the world in the last match .
You still have hopes.
We are beside you .
Show the world the real FOOTBALL
He did 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
People called me crazy when I said, Argentina will get eliminated early on. They aren't a team. They are a one man team. Yes they have other big names other than messi but there was a reason why they barely made the world cup. Average defenders, average midfield and average goalkeeper and add messi.
Jose Lopez they are less solid then 4 years earlier
I predicted them to lose 3-2 today.
Tie with Nigeria 1-1.
Shame on you for not having trust in your own team.
Thug Love Nigeria is a tough team could upset Argentina
Admit it, ESPN... Messi is finished and Ronaldo is King !
It's not the messi fault. He isn't 11 players.The player around him are a shambles.He is not like Ronaldo, he need support around him😆😆😆
Messi, show RESPECT,
MESSI has become MESSY
He was wasn’t he ? 😎
Finnally this bean ball criticizes messi Im proud of him lol
The funniest part is this Argentinian side would still beat England 😂😊😊
James Kirkpatrick oh yeah they would stomp the shit out of them. Ppl are hating on messi. But he is really good and honestly I feel bad for him. I’m not a fan of his and I cheer against him
.. but the dude can ball.
But Kane is England’s only good player. The likes of rashford, alli (sp idgaf this guy is horrible), sterling, lingard are just pure shit.
YEESSS. England are shit 😂
i strongly doubt it, current argentina could be run over by any team if we only had simeone as coach or pochettino
I Don't even fucking like England that much and even I know that England would beat this Argentina side.
Get your heads out of your ass holes.
Sure. England are still no match for Argentina.
Of course they blamed everyone except messi if this was Portugal and Ronaldo you lot would have killed him
Sabri Gaddari was he killed for 2014?
lunt banzi Pretty much.
lunt banzi yep they butchered him even though he was the only reason why Portugal had 4 points
yeah, this is unnfair, bcz he is untouchable for this blind fanatic pro-messian media and their propaganda.
You see, nobody is mentioning Croatia is reason why Messi didn't get shot on goal. Compare that to Island game, Argentina was playing far better than tonight. Croatia totally closed Argentina down. Give some credit to amazing tactics and players intelligence of Croatia.
everybody talks about how argentina was bad but nobody talks about croatia performance, they did pretty amazing
The manager needs to be fired right away how do u leave de Maria and dayabala out of the starting line up ur best attacking combination and u leave them on the bench no this guy needs to be fired right away
Irvyn Alvarez then who's gonna be THE next coach ? Simeone will not work, Sabella has to come back
alex kanyima simeone is the best option what do u mean
Was waiting for these fanboys 🤣🤣🤣🤣
excuses,excuses,excuses....y dont u just admit it,messi failed to deliver period
Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance.... No country should be mediocre enough to expect 1 player to carry a team of 11. Ronaldo will also fail to carry Portugal to the world cup, and then we'll see how people take sides again, but reality is, nothing has changed. They are still the two best players in the world.
Jason’s Retro Rewind, apart from aguero do you care to explain who the WORLD CLASS players are in argentina
J Delgado no one is blaming messi for conceding 3 goals but the man created absolutely nothing stop sucking him and just admit he's been a ghost so far this world cup
How when he rarely got the ball and when he got it he created
At least Ronaldo converts penalties when needed
I have always been a Messi guy but Ronaldo is clearly the best in the world.
Just because he lost one game doesn't mean it's the end I can feel it he is planning a very well payback
People have such short term memories! Ronaldo pulled a disappearing act in 2010 and 2014 as well. These two players are great but they don’t always have great tournaments
Where are all of the Missi fans still at the funeral after the Croatia game ??
The autopsy report definitely going to say rape was the cause of death
Rual Tevez lol death of all his fanbois. Raped by luka and co.
....good one. You’re a dumbass
They blame everyone but Messi, How pathetic and poor is antironaldo media. shame.
I feel so gutted right now .... messi doesnt deserve this. I feel so so so sorry for him. The world cup was the only thing he ever wanted. He had a option to wear the Spanish jersey.. but no he always wanted to represent his country . Thats the love he has for his motherland. If it wasnt for him ... argentina wouldnt have reached 4 finals, if it wasnt for him they wouldnt have been playing the world cup. He has made so many sacrifices for his country.... and what did argentina did for him????. They criticised him, didnt even provide a team where he could perform at his best. Sampaoli is a hell of a manager. Like Willy he too looked shabby clumsy and confused. I mean this is what we call unfair. Best example of unfaireness . He didnt deserve this... messi is tooo goood for the demanding argentinans. I mean just look at the sacrifices he made for his country. .. but still those argentians wouldnt be happy. I dont know what do they expect from this team... wish messi played for spain. Argentina take him from granted not knowing that once he leaves ... they wouldnt even qualify . And too all the ronaldo fans .... u guys get hyped at every little things ronaldo does. What Ronaldo does at everyonce in a bluemoon... Messi does that consistently. U guys get so so hyped at such little things that u start calling ronaldo the greatest player of all time... and u know what? This just only shows how insecure u guys . Really if I have a brother I dont need to say it everytime that he is my brother . Its understood. Similar with messi. We have been watching this guy for long time and we know that he is the greatest one ever to grace this game... its understood. We dont need it to say that again and agian.. cuz he shows it on the pitch. Its u guys that r insecure and need the smallest of smallest moments and excuse that ronaldo is the best. Anyways... I will alsways be a Messi fan....no matter what!!!
Great players show up when it matters the most.
To give you an example from cricket. In cricket if you made mistake you sit outside and watch others play. There is no scope for mistake. (Messi at least can play after he made mistake).
Given that. We had a player his name was tendulkar. Now he has great records. And we messure record by career average. He has his career average around 45. Which is great enough.
The guy has average around 55 in world cups and in finals. You see 55 average is extremely good and far better than anyone else in those matches.
He shows up when matters the most ie world cups and finals.
Thats how your goat player looks like and not like messi.
Mr Awsomeness very Rightly said
I think the biggest problem is that the general public put so much pressure on him that he just broke. The comparison to Maradona, the fact that he's so good. I think he just needs a break. These last few years have been rough on him, he was not psychologically ready for this world cup and it shows.
And despite the pressure and criticism, he followed thru on his promise a
@@cryptodeity Messi's a great man.
Its hard to dominate when the team cant do anything without Messi. Look at the Iceland game, 4 defenders surround Messi, no one else has an answer.