Also entertaining and a musician. Which is why he's the only guy at Andertson's that I watch and why I consider buying at Andertson's, even though ordering from the EU is a bit of a pain.
@@dcpayne5264 at least round it up to 631 shorting 443 pounds just makes you look cheap….or worse if the number is too random it might be mistaken for a fake or made up wage and then people could think only a fool come up with a number like that. If I had an imaginary salary it would be either 500k or maybe a million…that’s a solid fake salary. If you were going ultra realistic salary ….a paycheck actually has change so it would read 4456.56 something like that but if you are talking yearly then it is rounded and at the level you could even say it is 700k or 650k. Anyway you get the point. What do you think is fair 250 or maybe 147,632……… in my experience…you don’t ask for a pay cut you ask for that employee to be fired…people want to have other people fired for even the smallest reason…..a pay cut is never enough. I have decided your joke would be more funny, if we just have him fired. That’s what I meant by the compliment. Man, I wish they would fire jack already he is pretty cool and funny and that offends me greatly. Have a nice day and if you get a chance go to fake -salary troll -joke -is lame.com and sign up for the online joke school it cost 567,456 US dollars. You might be eligible for a scholarship just based on the great potential in future trolling….you are demonstrating.
holy smokes. this sounds amazing on my macbook. Jack, you son-ova-gun. you are my spirit animal. I love your enthusiasm and how much you genuinely enjoy these instruments. you keep me coming back to every video! This Muse is now on my wishlist.
Great to see you back Jack. Wonderful demo & with that fun element you manage to weave into your demos. I hope when you get a chance to noodle you come back & let us know what you have discovered.
I’ve tried it at my local shop. As Jack said, the interface IS posh and the presets are nice. I have a Rev 2, mothers, DFAM and it takes work to tune up and get all that cooking. This is a better considered build on what works like sliders. Reminds me also of how the 80’s synths were limited but were all sweet spot. Big sweetspot and always warm sounding. I want one. Thanks Jack, you’re the best!
Nice. How does the Muse compare to the Polybrute 12 in terms of keybed feel, knobs, and switchgear feel? The Muse's front panel graphics are on a sticker, as opposed to screen printing as on most other gear.
In addition to the preset names, when you create your own patch, Muse helps randomly generate a name for you! Great video as always. I look forward to them
Jack creates the best synth demos. An absolute pro who gets presenting with the right mix of tech and playing. I thought eight voices as a little on the meagre sounds but apparently not! Love the Muse.
For some strange reason it’s not in the default settings, but you can turn on the setting that shows what the original patch value was when you start adjusting knobs and sliders to edit an existing patch.
@HenritheHorse Oz here! This is correct, just a security tag to stop it being stolen from the shop, certainly not a permanent fixture! 🙂 The underside part of the security tag is somehow even uglier than the top, so we just left it on for this video. Hope this helps!
Actually, zooming in on it, it really does appear to be an anti-theft device. Whether that’s _just_ because of Jack I couldn’t say. 😉 FWIW, I don’t remember seeing one on any other reviews in this channel!
Tried it at Andertson's (thanks, Jack!) but honestly: it does nothing my Nord Wave 2 or Black Corporation Kijimi can't do. OK, it does have really nice filters, very decent effects with a seperate delay for left & right even,like the Vongon Polyphrase and it's easy to navigate (not the bank/patch and timbre menues, but otherwise one knob per function) . But for that Moog bass and filter, I'll probably get a used Subfatty somewhere cheap.
Not that anyone cares about my opinions on the arturtia, but if note stealing bothers a person enough to compare it to the Muse sound. I'm not saying I'm right but I bought a deep mind 12 then then a deep mind 12 d and now I have a24 voice analogue sound. The Muse sounds like it will blend very well with all the Moog desktops and I have all of them.the Muse sounds like a style where the Arturtia sounds more like a make all the people happy all the time approach, the deep mind covers that well in my opinion, I'm going with the Muse.
Did I miss it? Where oh where is Jack’s take on the Polybrute 12? It is 2024, no poly after touch >$3500 is non-sensical. I’ll keep my Montage M8x and consider a Polybrute 12, UDO Super Gemini or Waldorf Quantum Mk2.
I bought this Moog Muse, was crazy about it and here comes the thing: Unfortunately, "Moog Muse" has terribly disappointed me.. To turn on this keyboard it takes more than a minute (!).. Functions do not work properly, lights go on and off quickly and without meaning. The speed of the envelope generators is WAY too slow.. Chords played faster produce unwanted fast arpeggios. I tested everything and even the new software (1.2) did not fix these serious bugs, so I have to warn about it.. Detuning is a big problem, even the tuning function does not work. The keyboard froze even after programming faster sequences.. The overall sound was thin and not as fat as my old Moog products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: This instrument is too digitally controlled inside by very slow and in the worst case... often incomplete processing. I returned the Moog Muse to the seller and I have to say, there is something very wrong with this new Moog and it doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all! The sound is also bad and not rich. Too many other synths sound fuller, richer and faster (envelope generators) and the filter here doesn't do what it promises!! Forget the actual "Moog" products. They are not what they promise and what they say they are. Direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit products and many intensive tests finally opened my eyes after many hours, folks. Wake up... and stop believing in any advertisement for Moog... I'm sorry for all of you who fell into this trap like me. Sooner or later you will confirm what I am writing here.
And the Polybrute 12, yes. In my opinion, Jupiter-X is the most rational choice, here. But if the Muse's keybed feel is good, then sure, let it be the Muse.
Personally I think Andertons has done a disservice to synth music here with that anti theft device. Some of the most iconic synth pieces were created after a synth was nicked out of a store, JMJ springs to mind, I hear he was a bit light fingered in his early days. They get lazy once they've made a few bob.🤣🤣
Sounds aiight, but I will wait a year to see what people can create with this thing, not blown out of the water by any means. Moog is for bass and leads and my subsequent 37 and lil PHATTY has plenty if not more power than this thing
never seem to get the solo sound right on all these modern synths ... I'm sure Jack thinks so too, those 70's 80's solos are hard to make on The Muse too
Some decent tones here and there. Lots of film scoreyish presets.....🥱 Is the low end dead? Anyway, lots of better options out there, for same or less $.
Jack is the best music store guy in the industry…give him a raise. Seriously. Combination of personality and knowledge.
Also entertaining and a musician. Which is why he's the only guy at Andertson's that I watch and why I consider buying at Andertson's, even though ordering from the EU is a bit of a pain.
Jack gets paid £630,457 a year. I think he’s paid enough.
@@dcpayne5264 at least round it up to 631 shorting 443 pounds just makes you look cheap….or worse if the number is too random it might be mistaken for a fake or made up wage and then people could think only a fool come up with a number like that. If I had an imaginary salary it would be either 500k or maybe a million…that’s a solid fake salary. If you were going ultra realistic salary ….a paycheck actually has change so it would read 4456.56 something like that but if you are talking yearly then it is rounded and at the level you could even say it is 700k or 650k. Anyway you get the point. What do you think is fair 250 or maybe 147,632……… in my experience…you don’t ask for a pay cut you ask for that employee to be fired…people want to have other people fired for even the smallest reason…..a pay cut is never enough. I have decided your joke would be more funny, if we just have him fired. That’s what I meant by the compliment. Man, I wish they would fire jack already he is pretty cool and funny and that offends me greatly. Have a nice day and if you get a chance go to fake -salary troll -joke -is lame.com and sign up for the online joke school it cost 567,456 US dollars. You might be eligible for a scholarship just based on the great potential in future trolling….you are demonstrating.
@@dcpayne5264how do you know?
@@sharingmatters I was just being weird to be honest. I’ve no clue what he’s paid. He’s a great presenter though 😀
Well done Moog - - this seems to be a good move for the company
holy smokes. this sounds amazing on my macbook. Jack, you son-ova-gun. you are my spirit animal. I love your enthusiasm and how much you genuinely enjoy these instruments. you keep me coming back to every video! This Muse is now on my wishlist.
I NEED this board.... and it is reasonably priced...(for a Moog)
Got mine the other day and it is amazing! It's my favorite synth I have ever played on thus far.
Great to see you back Jack. Wonderful demo & with that fun element you manage to weave into your demos. I hope when you get a chance to noodle you come back & let us know what you have discovered.
Great synth love mine
Wow, just going by aesthetics alone she is like a PolyMoog meets a Jupiter 8 … classic design cues 🥰 … and that’s before you even hit a key 😉
Holy shit that melotron patch is incredible
Love the Michael McDonald quote at 14:20.
Sounds lovely mate!
I played it the other day and genuinely loved it. It’s a 10. First synth I’ve played I could get moving a shaking quickly and it sounded so dope
Ok you convinced me, order in.
Wooo Jacks back!
I’ve tried it at my local shop. As Jack said, the interface IS posh and the presets are nice. I have a Rev 2, mothers, DFAM and it takes work to tune up and get all that cooking. This is a better considered build on what works like sliders. Reminds me also of how the 80’s synths were limited but were all sweet spot. Big sweetspot and always warm sounding. I want one. Thanks Jack, you’re the best!
Nice. How does the Muse compare to the Polybrute 12 in terms of keybed feel, knobs, and switchgear feel? The Muse's front panel graphics are on a sticker, as opposed to screen printing as on most other gear.
@@dvamateur I was curious about that as well.
@@dvamateur I tried the muse and polybrute at Sweetwater when I was there, and I left with the muse.
Nicely done!
In addition to the preset names, when you create your own patch, Muse helps randomly generate a name for you! Great video as always. I look forward to them
Jack creates the best synth demos. An absolute pro who gets presenting with the right mix of tech and playing. I thought eight voices as a little on the meagre sounds but apparently not! Love the Muse.
This is way better than that other guy only smacking the black keys. No disrespect to him but jacks just the man 💪.
The sounds are sublime
Oh man it sounds so lovely
Sounds great
Thank you, Jack! For "Soft Orchestra" alone I NEED to get this synth asap!!! 🥰
For some strange reason it’s not in the default settings, but you can turn on the setting that shows what the original patch value was when you start adjusting knobs and sliders to edit an existing patch.
I can't ever tell if it's the machine or Jack's playing (or both). But it sounds great!
Jack is the man!!
"Lucky lead" sounds like Keith Emerson's lead sound from ELP's Lucky Man. That glide is the bomb!!
What’s the big circle thing on the back after the moog logo?
It’s part of the Moogo logo.
It's a security alarm, to stop it from being stolen.
@HenritheHorse Oz here! This is correct, just a security tag to stop it being stolen from the shop, certainly not a permanent fixture! 🙂 The underside part of the security tag is somehow even uglier than the top, so we just left it on for this video. Hope this helps!
@@HenritheHorse Not so sure if attaching a device that makes some noise to a synth produces much attention 😅
What’s that round thing on the back of it?
Anybody know?
Anti-theft device so Jack doesn’t steal it. 😂
Actually, zooming in on it, it really does appear to be an anti-theft device. Whether that’s _just_ because of Jack I couldn’t say. 😉
FWIW, I don’t remember seeing one on any other reviews in this channel!
@@mrdavies7894
😂😅
I think the next major innovation in hardware synthesizers will be when the manufacturers can all agree where to put all the I/O. 😂
5.45 …Keith Emerson right there 👍
What's the round plastic gizmo on the back of the synth next to the Moog logo?
I would guess some kind of Kensington lock holder. Might be floor model
I was wondering that too, so I switched across to 4K and could see it was the shop's anti-theft device!
@@runestone1337 thanks
I think I've fallen in love.
Tried it at Andertson's (thanks, Jack!) but honestly: it does nothing my Nord Wave 2 or Black Corporation Kijimi can't do. OK, it does have really nice filters, very decent effects with a seperate delay for left & right even,like the Vongon Polyphrase and it's easy to navigate (not the bank/patch and timbre menues, but otherwise one knob per function) . But for that Moog bass and filter, I'll probably get a used Subfatty somewhere cheap.
Not that anyone cares about my opinions on the arturtia, but if note stealing bothers a person enough to compare it to the Muse sound. I'm not saying I'm right but I bought a deep mind 12 then then a deep mind 12 d and now I have a24 voice analogue sound. The Muse sounds like it will blend very well with all the Moog desktops and I have all of them.the Muse sounds like a style where the Arturtia sounds more like a make all the people happy all the time approach, the deep mind covers that well in my opinion, I'm going with the Muse.
is the keybed same as the matriarch?
Cheers !
On the back of the synth, just after the Moog logo, is that round thing an anti-theft device, or part of the synth?
Anyone have experience with both the muses faders and the matriarch's faders? Jack said they feel quite nice here, just wondering how they compare...
Did I miss it? Where oh where is Jack’s take on the Polybrute 12?
It is 2024, no poly after touch >$3500 is non-sensical.
I’ll keep my Montage M8x and consider a Polybrute 12, UDO Super Gemini or Waldorf Quantum Mk2.
Came across this keyboard when I was at Guitar center, had no idea about it. Really enjoyable to play and sounded great. Then I looked at the price 😂
I agree, that's the best thing about it. Compared to other Moog synths, it's a very reasonable price for what you get. I'm going to get one too.
I bought this Moog Muse, was crazy about it and here comes the thing: Unfortunately, "Moog Muse" has terribly disappointed me.. To turn on this keyboard it takes more than a minute (!).. Functions do not work properly, lights go on and off quickly and without meaning. The speed of the envelope generators is WAY too slow.. Chords played faster produce unwanted fast arpeggios. I tested everything and even the new software (1.2) did not fix these serious bugs, so I have to warn about it.. Detuning is a big problem, even the tuning function does not work. The keyboard froze even after programming faster sequences.. The overall sound was thin and not as fat as my old Moog products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: This instrument is too digitally controlled inside by very slow and in the worst case... often incomplete processing. I returned the Moog Muse to the seller and I have to say, there is something very wrong with this new Moog and it doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all!
The sound is also bad and not rich. Too many other synths sound fuller, richer and faster (envelope generators) and the filter here doesn't do what it promises!!
Forget the actual "Moog" products. They are not what they promise and what they say they are.
Direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit products and many intensive tests finally opened my eyes after many hours, folks.
Wake up... and stop believing in any advertisement for Moog... I'm sorry for all of you who fell into this trap like me.
Sooner or later you will confirm what I am writing here.
Спасибо за видео. Только в нем осознал, НАСКОЛЬКО ГИГАНТСКИЙ МЬЮЗ МУГ в размере. Просто капец какой большой. Ощущение, что он даже больше муг он.
Tears at 4:30 😮
I'll never be able to afford it, but boy it's nice.
at first it sound too digital, not warm enough..but near halfway of total video length, it just getting better... u yeahhh
Hey Jack, can you do a comparison with the Roland Jupiter X and the Moog Muse?
Would love to see that video !
And the Polybrute 12, yes. In my opinion, Jupiter-X is the most rational choice, here. But if the Muse's keybed feel is good, then sure, let it be the Muse.
Jupiter C sounds better than them both. The massive sounds you get from it are mind boggling
@@Mercy_PantsI am toying with the x. Need to sell my mpc keys to fund part of it. You can pick up the x for over a grand cheaper
@@Mercy_Pants I have both the Jupiter X and the Muse, and while I love the Jupiter, it doesn't come close to the Muse for sonic heft.
I sold the X towards the Muse.
The Muse is ANALOG, the JX is not.
Finally Jack's Take.
Personally I think Andertons has done a disservice to synth music here with that anti theft device. Some of the most iconic synth pieces were created after a synth was nicked out of a store, JMJ springs to mind, I hear he was a bit light fingered in his early days. They get lazy once they've made a few bob.🤣🤣
First comment 🎉 love Moog muse 🖖🖖
Oh you mean that ultra expensive moog synth sounds good? You don’t say 🙄
Three Grand though! 😭😭😭
May sound steep compared to Volcas and Behringers, but it’s an acceptably decent price for a fully sized and featured polysynth.
Great video and demonstration, synth looks great but not for me.
It's pronounced Moose.
Heh.
yaw, can hear the vca blead..ethernal beta.. like the one from exmoog.
Sounds aiight, but I will wait a year to see what people can create with this thing, not blown out of the water by any means. Moog is for bass and leads and my subsequent 37 and lil PHATTY has plenty if not more power than this thing
Second comment, love moog muse!
great demo thank you (but this moog sound thin and cheap...)
never seem to get the solo sound right on all these modern synths ... I'm sure Jack thinks so too, those 70's 80's solos are hard to make on The Muse too
Tombre is a novel pronunciation of timbre. I'm here for it.
It’s a little more accurate to the french pronunciation, where it came from.
They saw the Minilogue XD and went "We can do that too"
?
I am sorry, but this is the first Moog that sounds good. They always disappointed me in the past.
You have never had a Memorymoog, a Minimoog, Sub 37, or Matriarch, right?
@@RayyMusik Or even the Mavis sounds amazing for the money! This dude just lacks skills. Let alone Polymoog or their modulars.
@@RayyMusik played them all. the Mini was fun. the rest, meh
The Grandmother is ICONIC.
Get one.
@@mtotheatothedoubled lol you are lying.
Its M-O-O-G otherwise it would be spelt M-O-G-U-E
Only 8-voice. A no-go in 2024. And don't give me the bs ' yeah but it's analog' (forever what that means...analog isn't better!)
Some decent tones here and there. Lots of film scoreyish presets.....🥱
Is the low end dead?
Anyway, lots of better options out there, for same or less $.