How the NBA Got Away With Cheating for YEARS
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
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The NBA had a scandal they hoped people would never find out about. The controversy would have blown up if it happened in the age of social media but lucky for the league this was pre-Reddit. An NBA employee posted an anonymous tell-all on a message board and this video looks at whether it could still be affecting the game today. - Спорт
Legalized Sports betting ruined the NBA
Everybody gotta hit those lays
No, just corruption did it
How?
@@mcmerry2846 The corruption is made possible by the legalization of sport betting tho
@@billcook4768 Look up the issue with Jontay Porter. Who knows how much more could be going on especially with the refs. Tim Donaghy did make a suspicious amount of calls to Scott Foster during his time.
Tim Duncan should have an official quadruple double.
So so true.
I think wembanyama will do at some point
In the finals no less
So true
If he wasn’t so humble he 100% would
In 5 years there’s gonna be a video, “The biggest referee scandal in NBA history, 2024”
All those freethrows for Lebum and Lakers
@@junson3209 lakers arent even top 5 in free throws but keep whining
@@junson3209yeah but the league also rigged it for Kobe and shaq but no one Evers says that
@@crystalizedExposed they have the greatest disparity against their opposition tho so that’s interesting isn’t it? No matter what they always get more whistles than whoever they’re playing pushing +400 against their opponents. But sure nothing to see here.
@@NateO123 they have bron and ad, two of the most prolific drivers and paint scorers of all time. + ad is a veteran defender, he just doesn't foul a lot. orrr its a scheme by the league to get the lakers to the... 9th seed.
No evidence of games being rigged??!! This happens in every major sports competition in the world. Video referees , blatant blown calls, major fines for questioning referees, referees never facing media, the fact that whole competitions of teams play the exact same way with the same format and controlling results to give the illusion that the salary caps are working
They're controlling results to give the illusion that the salary caps are working? Why?
It is still ON. Jokic vs. GSW having over 20FT... Lebron not calling for traveling all his career.
That's such a stupid mindset. And to say Jokic gets this benefit when he averages 5 ft a game is crazy.
To much money on the line to fake stats
I’ve seen Jalen Suggs get 3+ steals so many times this season and then the box score says 0 or 1.
statistician corruption ye
would've been a hilarious time to run your sports gambling sponsor
I noticed he used a different sponsor than usual too lol, kinda spineless tbh. He needs to talk about how bad the current situation is too.
that would mean he'd have to agree he's part of the problem. Just like every youtuber with a gambling sponsor. They talk about all the winnings but never mention they're playing with house funds as part of the sponsorship contract.
They went from fixing stats to fixing how many times a team gets to the foul line.
I know it feel like that haha, but when a team is down they usually get more
FTS not because of refs but because when you are down you tend to drive more and take higher % shots and the team that's up tends to settle for jumpers. It's really just that, It would be so hard for them to fix shit lmao
@@buttnuts2599just cause you drive more doesn't mean more FT automatically, you still need to win fouls, Embiid drive in more but half those calls are BS, we all know that
@@benishben4364 yes let's talk about Embiid that's genetically and statistically an outlier... C'mon buddy do better.
@@buttnuts2599 27 free throws in the 4th quarter to help kobe and shaq beat the kings in 2002 was not them driving more it was clearly rigged. If you think thats the onky time the nba has been rigged with fouls you're smokimg rocks.
@@danielkarcis1174 I think superstars get more calls than non stars. And the king's stars have always been disrespected by fans, media, and refs for all of eternity. You are lacking critical thinking skills if you think they rig games.
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There hasn't been a season without a game 7 since 1999. Every decade prior has multiple seasons per decade without a game 7. The frequency of game 7s have almost tripled in the last 12 years as well. Something isn't right.
Let’s talk about that Lakers free throw disparity now 😂
Its less than last year and no one claimed it then. Its also less than the 2018 Hornets had that year. Does this mean the NBA was rigging it to try and prop up MJ?
@@jake8748 well they lead the league in free throws against their opposition so if it’s less that means they had it last year too. Sure looks like the league wants Lebron in the playoffs to me js lol, plus individuals trying to pad stats for stars is hardly the same as the league clearly trying to keep one player relevant with absurdly biased officiating 😂
@@NateO123biased officiating?? You got joel, giannis, luka, Sga 😂😂😂 but sure Lakers only had favorable calls 😂😂😂
@NateO123 yes they lead the league in FT differential this season. They led last season in FTD by a larger margin than this season. Also the 2018 Hornets led that year in FTD by a larger margin than what the Lakers lead this year. You think the 2018 Hornets were being favoured for their superstars and to create a narrative in that season?
Or, if you understand how bad the lakers are on defence and at shooting you'll realise opposing teams often get easier shots off except if they end up with AD in the middle, and also the lakers have little good offensive strategy but to throw it inside and iso/post up etc in the paint which leads to alot of FTA. AD and Lebron have never fouled much in their careers.
@@No_Iceee Actually not only the Lakers got SO VISIBLE help.
Love the video as well as the sponsor, I will have to check them out. Especially proud that you brought up the NBA tomfoolery as it relates to sports betting, the FBI investigation, and so forth.
You are a really excellent content creator Casey. Keep up the awesome work.
It’s wild that even the biggest skeptic could take 1.5 assists per game off of Stockton’s career…and he’d still be the all time leader over Jason Kidd, assuming you didn’t make any adjustments on his stats either.
his longevity is wild, missed like 40 games in 20 years
Stockton had fake assists look it up they counted Karl Malone posts ups
@@MrDiMES123 Dude it was in the video. Nobody is saying all of his assists are fake, that's absurd. The point is even if you removed a large percentage of them, he'd still be the leader even though you'll find players lower on the list that surely have some padding as well.
Huge fan here. Love the videos. A lot of in-depth detail, several takes and perspectives, and the videos are very logical. I love it.
Logical. Cap. He’s propaganda. It still happens, nothing was debunked it’s just the narrative overconfident assholes want to parrot. This era isn’t better, you’re just bias and a hypocrite.
That van Exel “assist”, though! 😆😆😆
Fantastic video! Really insightful. Thank you!
Pablo Torre Finds Out had the original story but you did a great summary. Great video for both of yall
Great work Casey.. enjoy your channel a lot 🙏🏼
Of course games influenced by forces beyond the play between the lines. Gambling. TV Networks. Team owners. They all put their fingers on the scale.
💯. Which is why I can never root for or be a fan of any team with the same passion I once did as a youngster. I still enjoy some of it though.
@TheGoldeagle99 I see other grown-ups who still passionately root & care and I envy their delusional mindset, but am glad I don't have it.
@@3tp 🤣🤣. Just remember what Morpheus told Neo. Some people don't want to be unplugged from the system. Many will even fight to protect it.
I love your videos man
They don't call it business for nothing. Sometimes the product has to be dressed up to draw in attention to help drive up the price of TV/Network deals and when nobody is looking they scrub the lipstick off that pig and pretend like it never happened.
Amazing research once again
Glad you enjoyed it
Anyone else here go screwed over by a Jimmy Butler bet a couple weeks ago where they awarded him an assist in real time but after the game was done, they took the assist away?
He yoinked this from Pablo Torre Finds Out.
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The nba isn’t rigged as a whole but there are moments that make ya go hmmmm?
Exactly zaddy I don’t know why people say that
It's almost like there are 1230 NBA matches a year, so many many random outcomes can happen.
It’s definitely as rigged as wwe
NBA = WWE
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thats why you have to look for the optimal schemes and there are players that making the team better without the reflect on the statsheet, factors like spacing tempo etc can not be measured but are really important
This makes sense, makes me more suspicious if whether the 100 point Wilt game actually happened or was intentionally rigged.
It happened but they did actually basically engineered it to aswell. It wasn't naturally scored. The entire team kept giving it up to him. Its like Kobes last game, it was clear that wasn't just him.
Scoring points is more objective than whether who should get credit for tips for rebounds or time to count assists.
I actually don't think its rigged, the sport wasn't even popular thats why theres no recording or anything. They assumed no one would really care
There's video on youtube that shows every point he scored in that game-allegedly.
@@jake8748you think so?
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Bro. This is an amazing video. Bravo
This is dangerous reporting bro
Let’s get more vids like these 🙌🙌
I love your news bro
Well done sir! thank you for bringing it back to light.
And "this happened in 09" and you show the stats allign just this year and that is "quick"??
They cook the books for Wemby for sure. Chet seems to get shorted on his blocks sometimes. He had one block the other night that was emphatic and he ended the game with 0 blocks
What game please! We have to know!...
The NBA needs webby to be great.
It's common to give the stat to the best player
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It still shocks me to know that there are people who don’t know that the NBA and NFL are no different from the WWE.
It still shocks me to know that there are people who believe that the NBA and NFL are no different from the WWE.
Ok buddy 😂
draymond maybe but i think you’re stretching it
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Every time Casey comes out with an investigative exposé like this, I gotta give him props with my real account. Great job being a REAL journalist among bloggers, Casey! 🏀🏆🕵🏻♂️
Agree fully. To my surprise(!?!), Casey has become my favorite NBA blogger, and I watch a lot of NBA bloggers.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts on the “We done with the 90s” trend that’s been circulating thru NBA spaces the last few weeks. I think it’s hilarious to see but gravely dangerous to the convo to be had about the game.
I heard that trend for like 2 days ago, what's with it btw
@@adriancomia6618Basically a bunch of young idiots hating on the 90s to retaliate against the old idiots who hate the modern gen
Id stay outta it since it is filled with a bunch of dummies
the trend is legit, I grew up watching the entire 90s era. nostalgia plays a part, if anybody has the nba league pass please watch those games. The level of skill is massive aside from the generational talents from those era. you will never find a guy like steph curry moving off the ball most guys were standing around off the ball slightly shifting or clogging the paint.
@@avengerkill809 lol Curry wouldn't be able to move as freely with hand checking not to mention shooting 3s at a high clip was frowned upon so Curry wouldn't play like he does now. 🗑 take
@@tdup191 if guys like John Stanton with no left hands can play during that era then Steph curry would destroyed defense with his off the ba movement and coming off screens. Reggie Miller took MJ and bulls to 7 games, Steph curry would've been a nightmare for defense. Shooting 3s was not frowned upon mf just couldn't make it. Reggie was taking almost 5 shots from 3 per game and he's nowhere near as efficient as a shooter as curry. You sound like you don't know basketball.
Pippen said this about the score keepers in Chicago at time taking steals from him & giving them to Jordan & he heard a scorer keeper tell Mike , “ I took care of you tonight Mike”. This really just corroborates it.
Sounds about made up
Trollll
It's like when they give stars the benefit of the doubt for foul calls. It's not even a secret. People talk openly about "he's earned that call" or "if he was so-and-so he probably gets that call"
Wow, this is the 1st time I've heard about this.
yeah I watched that Pablo Torre Finds Out episode too
Remember to also keep in mind that players perform better at home with the support of the crowd.
This is also true for points not just the subjective stats.
Every match Scott is reffing is sus how the nba allow him to still ref
He’s their favorite ref. The nba controls him
Bro i just played 2k17 on my xbox and everytime I tip the ball without grabbing the full rebound, it counts as a board smh. Anyways great video.
They literally amped up the manipulation of stats for the legacy of lebron. But it's working for his detriment because we all could see the bias and overexposure by the media and Adam Silver's cash cow in LBJ. They will surely gloss over that his stats have indeed been fabricated to prop his game above MJs and Kobe's, but we all notice that this is not the reality.
The rebounding and assist stats 100% still get pumped up today in the way you've broken them down if you watch full games and count along. Not talking the odd outlier but 20%+
Hilarious how people bringing up bron but ignoring MJ and Kobe. Oh the irony
Good journalism.
There is obviously a grey area where you could argue either way if something was a rebound or an assist.
So it sounds like in these fantasy player picks we should be picking players on the home team for overs.
NBA is no fun no more.
Years ago I worked the score table at a couple Women's NJCAA DIV III tournament. I saw someone block 19 shots in a game.
That’s not true they still do it. I noticed this happens. Not so long ago with Orlando magic games that are the ones I always watch. Who knows what they’re doing in the rest of the league! I have noticed when I see what seems not to be accurate most of the times under, and sometimes over. Depending on the players. What I noticed was with blocks as they tend to be easier to count as they tend to be less. I’m obviously not keeping track but sometimes is to obvious to the naked eye 😩😤😠
A lot of assists and rebounds in this modern nba are stat padded because of we are in a triple double era
I was at the Scott Skiles game. I always thought that number was suspect.
There was proof last year with the ref who was a Boston fan with a burner account.. Also, there would be more refs named, but the NBA had a scapegoat.
Unless you go watch the tape accusing someone they got a better statline at Home vs Away is a witch hunt, but yes, I've noticed this especially in assists in the 90s... the 2000s, the 2010. Stuff that's happening now is way more criminal.
Easy evidence. Fouls called and free throws. The NBA is a joke
The guy is still hustling and lying to ....yup sell something
A man with no respect for his kneecaps.
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Well all of us Mavs fans know the Heat were given that finals win over us in 2006. We were up 2-1 and then the refs started giving the heat calls. Or they called weird fouls to mess with the momentum. It was angering.
I have been doing stats for my kids rec teams for years. Now I don't feel so bad when I miss a rebound or shot attempt or two.
Im a Kings fan and mysteriously sabonis will be short rebounds or assists occasionally. It's weird when local beat journalists who follows live games and when they post stats of the player and the official stats are incorrect by 1-2 assists or rebounds here and there. P.s. im not into the "cheating conspiracies" on most sports leagues... But we all know it's fueled by gambling.
Ex: pro tennis scandal with Russian mob betting on players who throws a game or set etc... to alter betting lines.
Baseball: sign stealing
Football: play stealing
Basketball: referee tampering
.
Etc
I suppose AI can now count the statistics of a game--feed a video file of an entire game to a program that reads it and then gives out the stats of each player. In this way, anyone can collect their own stats and thus check the official stats.
Just watch any game. Issues everywhere. It’s no different from holding in football - they can call in on most every play, or not. Traveling is the same, 5 times a game, no call, or well, maybe.
Vancouver Grizzlies!! Miss them so much
It is now worse than ever...assists and rebounds...
Related: "Unforgotten: Operation Flagrant Foul".... It's not just about the betting scandal but also the amount of refs/coaches/players just admitting refs hold grudges & call games that way.
I have a RUclips channel (in Portuguese) and I have analyzed a few games that I thought could be suspicious. For example, in David Robinson’s quadruple-double, he only got 6 assists and 6 blocks. Walt Frazier is credited with 19 assists in game 7 of 1970 NBA Finals, even though he got only 9. But, on the other hand, I watched Skiles’ 30 AST game. Not only he had 30, but in today’s criteria of what an assist is, he would have at least 33 or 34. Olajuwon’s quadruple-double is also for real.
Edit: and for the “Duncan should have had a quadruple-double”, no he shouldn’t. Of the 8 blocks credited, 3 or 4 of them were kinda fake.
Once gambling was legalized it's obvious there would be problems. Multiple NFL players have been suspended the last few seasons for betting on games. The NBA already had Tim Donaghy. I find it hilarious that people are saying "There is no proof." Fake stats are not the problem, it's the outcome of games. Fans may be betting on a player's stats more but point spreads and over/unders are still bet on and winning and losing ultimately gets players paid more. Recent discussions about the next face of the league all centered around 1 thing: Whoever starts winning the most rings. The integrity of the game is compromised when winning and losing is not legit.
And scorekeepers have been faking stats for years now. It happens today. Literally watched Lebron throw a pass to AD, AD took 4 dribbles as he backed down in the post, he faked left went right, then shot a fade away jumper. Lebron was given the assist. NBA rules state an assist leads directly to a basket. This AD/Lebron example is not an assist but they gave Lebron one regardless. And they've been doing it for a long time. Lebron's assist stats might be the fakest stat in all of sports.
"If you put a 19 or 20 year old in charge of anything who's at fault there." The 19 or 20 year old. They are an adult. They are responsible for their actions. Passing the buck to whoever trusted them to actually have integrity and do their job is a copout for those with no integrity.
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The NBA games are now rigged by how free throws are (or not) awarded. Sometimes a team will get more while the other team does not for similar fouls. Its subtle but it works.
I remember there was a RUclipsr that used to laugh at CP3 fake assists when he was in LA
Tell me more....what youtuber and what year?
Yup, i agreed
100% percent proof... Look at all the gambling ADS during the commercials and the commentators always talking about betting on betting on the apps....
What do you mean where’s the proof. We literally now have the opportunity to bet on our phones. It has gotten so blatant that players like Tatum, lebron/reeves and Luka will much rather get a technical for yelling at the refs than running back on defense .
That’s not proof that refs are manipulating games because of betting, buddy.
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The same scam happen late 50's in the NHL when the second assist on a goal was implemented to prevent Maurice Richard to win the scorer on the year.
Thought this was Lakers vs Kings for a second
I was expecting Underdog Fantasy to be the sponsor. 😂
Definitely a gray area. Alot of times guys that collect stats on the team's bench aren't sure how to count a play. I remember a head coach walking down the bench to ask the stat guy how many offensive rebounds a player had. The guy goes 4 and the head coach says no way he's got more like 8. A not so subtle hint to up his numbers.
This is one of those rare occasions where vid pertaining to a scandal seems feasible. Cheating like this seems entirely plausible.
Side note about MJ getting DPoY as a guard however; that wasn’t a rarity in the 80s. In fact I believe the first two were won by a Bucks player who’s name eludes me at the moment
Sydney moncreif n Alvin Robertson if I'm correct...
Sidney Moncrief,i belive he won in 1984.and 1985.but i am not sure. Also M.Cooper won the award as a sf.
@@capricehollis1372 yeah,Alvin Robinson is so underreated and underapreciated. AM hoops should probably do video on him.
Moncrief, thank you. All I could remember was Sydney without looking 😆
@@slobodanjamedzija7545 forgot about Coop winning, another non big man
No social media in 2009? TF are you talking about? I had MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, IG a year later and Snapchat a year after that. “No social media” ok bro. The lies and revisionist history has gotta stop.
Makes sense why we still don't have footage of the Wilt Chamberlain 100 Point Game
That's why it's National Basketball Entertainment.
Ironically, Rudy’s gesture cost them the game because of the tech he got for it whereby effecting the betting results
This a good vid
Awesome video. Call a TRAVEL please!!!
Yooo! OMG thats true though
Flight aint capping with his "Fake Stats" comments
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The "we done with the 90s" trend not going away any time soon 😂😂
Lmao so you think they don't do this shit today??
Im a daily NBA prop bettor and i couldn't tell you how many times per night me and other people are in an outrage about stats being corrected!
You do know there’s videos of Stockton and Michael Jordan, doing those steals and assist😂😂😂 I would understand if the videos did not exist, but😂😂😂😂
this also means, scottie pippens stats are also reduced to bring a narrative to the people. especially, in the past you cannot replay the whole game with just a press of a button and subsciption.
I saw another RUclips creator with a similar video about how the NBA is inflating the stats of Victor Wembanyama
Who? Post it please
Yeah, there’s no way that sports betting being involved in every advertising corner of sports and sports media could be further corrupting said sport. The normalization of sports betting is an absolute plague.