Firing Arrows Like a Mongolian Warrior
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This guy has the patience of a saint, dealing with these two.
Yeah, but they are still pretty respectful.
Lol yeah 🤣🤣 they are so nuts🤣
the one with grey hair is cool but the other one is kinda annoying tbh
It was a bit of a pain to watch, to be honest. I winced at the dry firing. He was admirably calm about it.
@@yngveellingsen3545 Doing that by accident using that grip isnt really uncommon. I don't think he did it on purpose lol.
That guy was absolutely awesome. Not just super educated and accurate but willing to adapt to different learning styles to get people to learn in a way that suits them. This man should be a teacher of sorts. True passion for his area of study and the ability to adapt.
I said he teaches 7 year olds. So he probably does have a little class that he teaches
He's almost certainly an instructor.
@@bubbasgod9336who is he?
*Dry fires bow*
"Why do I hear boss music"
I thought he was really upset the way he snatched the bow back but his "It's fine" after fixing it cut the tension. What a patient beast
His own fault. The first thing you tell somebody who isn't an archer is to not dry fire a bow. If he didn't tell them, and then remind them often, then it's his fault.
@@KurNorock The comments make it sound like every one in modern day should know this already. its kinda ridiculous.
There's no fire involved in using a bow. You fire a gun. You _loose_ an arrow.
@@GrassSaint33 I also think he purposely gave them the cheapest bow on that table or at least it looked like it. Imagine dry firing the other bows or like the old warbow ones
@@bignumbers Correct, the act of shooting an arrow is technically called *loosing* but you DO *dry fire* a bow when you release the string from partial or full draw without an arrow knocked on the string Mr Technical Terms only or I’m commenting on it lol..
for a moment I thought he's gonna rip that dude's head off when he dry fired the bow
id of freaked out if he dry fired any of my bows
Thank god he didnt touch the hornbow.
not many people get to say I pissed of a hun and live
@@theshuman100 pissed of a hun?
@@researchtech4881 yea like pissing about huns ya know
I'm sure anyone who knows bows here felt physical pain when Brian dry-fired it, but i feel inserting the lesson in such a comedic fashion is part of what makes these videos so good and memorable, instead of a passing mention of "don't dry fire bows"
Thanks, man!
I felt no physical or emotional pain. I have shit bows that occasionally dry fire and also smack things/people with, and give no fucks. As they are cheap, old, free, or garbage in some way.
Training gear is always made for damage from practice, learning, new people, and mistakes. If you're handing a beginner stuff that you don't want damaged then that is your mistake.
It should also be called dry loosing because dry firing with firearms is something you want people to do to increase their firearms handling skills.
@@HeartlessKnavei feel you but “dry loosing” just sounds stupid, rather say dry firing lol
@@HeartlessKnaveeveryone says dry fire
Doubtless that's why he was given the plastic training bow.
I died a little inside when he dry-fired that bow.
I know right. Why would he do that
@Mark Inglese it fucks up the bow since theres nothing for the spring to push so the spring just wobbles around and gets fucked up
this is just my theory, i've never used an actual bow myself
MDMA in my fanta it is extremely dangerous look it up people have gotten hurt by dry firing bows especially with compound bows what happens is the string slips off the cam and worst case scenario hits the shooter in the face severely injuring them
@Mark Inglese The bow gives the power to the arrow, without an arrow the power goes back into the bow through the string. It can destroy the bow.
@@GregoryKun Archers in the medieval time were made up most by peasants, imagine getting hurt like that and having to let it bleed. Poor lads
As a Hungarian, and a medieval re-enactor, I find this video pretty good. But, there is a thing i would like to talk about. The myth that they've put the meat under their saddles is true, but they did not eat it afterwards. They've only put it there so that the saddle doesn't do any harm to the horses back. Because yep, on a long ride, which they usually did, the saddle itself can deal some damage on the horses back.
Makes sense, extra padding.
as a turk I have to say that the information you have given is completely wrong. because we still do it. and it is very tasty. it is called pastırma (pressing) .
Turks ( and of course their immediate neighbors, the Mongols ) had two sources of food during their long horse journeys. one was the "pastirma" on the horse's back and the second was the blood drawn from the horse's neck with a reed. The latter was practiced only by the horsemen who were the messengers of news. because they had no chance to stop, to take a break. but pastırma is still probably the most delicious fermented meat invention of the Turks.
I should remind you that it is a much older tradition than when Hungarians were considered "Hun Turks".
keyword: bastuma, pastırma, kastamonu pastırması
I can't imagine that they threw food away. Especially at wartime.
While this is a mini masterclass in horse archery, this is also a masterclass in teaching.
He lets them ask questions about stuff they’re interested in then I answers perfectly, allows the students to make mistakes without being harsh, and adds knowledge as they learn the techniques.
I laughed at the dry-firing moment. When he released, I just cringed. Laughed at how immediately both the video and the instructor addressed it. Great video. Thank you!
1.5 years later, and I figured I should drop a line about this topic:
Reason for single-material self-bows, especially the longbow, to have remained in use throughout history, even after exposure to the composite bow, is rather simple. It is easier to construct, easier to maintain, and does not rapidly degrade in humid climates.
they figured that out 600 bc. i figure we didnt your opinion.
@@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 correct, regarding the first sentence. I have no idea what the second sentence is supposed to mean. Could you rephrase?
@@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 Hey, what the hell?
@@maxwhitworth9178 ... what is your question?
@@christopherpurches2774 stop restating the obvious... why havent they did a vid on utube "lars anderson he figured out our lost tribal art of speed bowing... as in accurately shooting 3 arrows in 1.3 seconds... semi auto speed bowing...
As a Turkish person this video made me both happy and sad. I’m happy because lots of people learned the basic info about the Turkish archery. However, what we know is just the top of the iceberg, after hundreds of years later, we lost the art of archery and important information about it.
Same think happened to almost all country that had nomadic past. For example. Due to soviet and Manchu rule. Mongolia lost almost all of their temples and and palaces cause they where afraid that those monument etc would make them want to rebel. All the the ancient text have been burned and lost. While population got forced into Buddhism and not have kids and in other world was a attempted to wipe out everyone of em. At some point there where less than million people left 😅.
"Everything seemed so elegant, until we got to this..." Probably the most relevant statement of the whole video from these two. Nevertheless, high marks for content.
I physically cringed as an archer when Brian dry fired the bow....
James Trahan same here
James Trahan no need to be an archer for that. I shot three times in my life (not three arrows but three times a few days) and that was enough to make me squeal at dryfiring.
IKR? "Hey, let's go hit the bar!" #*physically unplugs PC*#
I feel you man.
any archer would
The first thing you tell someone when they don’t know anything about bows is to never dry fire a bow. First thing.
Dry fire a bow? You probably need to explain that before giving a bow to a newbee!
@@sissypoettler5945 dry fire is the term, but the first thing you do when you put a bow into someone's hands is "never shoot without an arrow, it will blow it and hurt you" while putting an arrow on the bow.
10:37 "I pissed off a Hun"
What the romans said when they saw Attila.
He has mostly European ancestry the huns were pure mongolic ages ago modern day Hungarians hardly have any type of mongol in them all the Mongols are in left Mongolia and Northern South asia Central Asia or
There were no Romans left when they invaded
Romans would have cleansed the Huns in 10 years
Ahahhahaha
@@hghgasdas6566 You are kidding. The Romans were scared shitless. Attila was pillaging city after city but they still payed tribute, a cartload of gold items. He was smart enough not to attack heavily fortified settlements, such as Rome, that could be easily defended. if it wasn't for the coalition with the Germanic tribes, Rome would have fallen sooner. The Roman empire was heavily mismanaged for decades, even before Attila.
@@toocharged huns are not pure mongol... they are mixed with turkic and mongol...pls respect to the history, do not give wrong information...
2:13 the real reason why mostly European countries used longbows was because of the climate, composite bows where made for dry areas like the steps. The composite bow would easily break in wet areas like India this was also a component in the failure of Gengis khans invasion of India.
He never tried to invade India
Turks also used composite bows.
1. The Turks and Tatars knew that keeping a bow in a dry area for two days would allow the glue to strengthen again.
2. Hungarian tribes (Magyars) pillaged Europe during the 11th century and had no issue with it.
3. The Ottomans, Mongols, Tatars, Magyars, Kumans, Kipchaks, Avars, Bulgars and Pechenegs all successfully invaded Europe with the bow and arrow, and built empires there.
4. Genghis Khan didn't invade India. He died in 1280. His sons invaded India, and they sure did conquer it. They are called the Mughals.
5. Other steppe people did invade India using the recurve composite bow and arrow. They are called: the Ghorids, Tughluq, Delhi Sultanate, Ghaznavids, Babur, Mughals, Khilji dynasty and the Shahi dynasties. Turkic people ruled India for more than a thousand years. And I'm not mentioning the White Hunks (Ak Hun) or Xionites or Alchon Huns.
I was just waiting for a dry fire to occur. You didn't disappoint.
me too
how would they know
@@knut7362 physics. 👀
This guy is so cool! I want to see more from him!!!
I want to see that fermented mare's milk episode
We’ve got another ep coming!
The guy in the hat sounds like Kermit.
i wanna be that kool doh
This guy is a real men !
this video actually pushed me to start archery. now I have four-five bows both recurve and compound and have been practicing for more than a year by now
“If I can teach 17 year olds, I can teach you guys”. Lol that was a zinger
7 year olds...
They taught archery at 7th grade camp to children less than 17 years old.
i knew bryan would dry fire, as soon as he pulled the string back i could sense it
I saw it coming, and it caused me pain. I must admit, I squealed like a stuck pig and dropped my phone.
jozsua mcdonald I have no experience with bows. I would have dry fired aswell. Why is itna bad thing?
Im not an expert by any means. But, when you shoot an arrow, all the energy is transferred to the arrow itself, when there is no arrow all that force is put into the bow itself, possibly damaging it. (im sure there is a better explanation but thats as much as i know)
you pretty much got it, also heavier bows obviously hold more tension and when dry-fired the bow string (even seen in this video) will often come loose or detach completely, and when you have a hard string whipping back at you with up to 100lbs of force (mainly in reference to traditional wooden bows), its a scar and a lost eye waiting to happen. I've read of instances where bow limbs actually snap, causing irrepairable damage to the bow and increasing bodily risk.
Luckily it was just a fibreglass bow, someone might have died if it was a hornbow
I like how the guy is totally fine with messing around a joking about arrow types and stuff. He's seems really cool.
Provocateur the romans did that, the Romans do that, the Aztec did that, the Greeks did that, the British do that. So what’s your point?
I love how they say “Mongolian” but they don’t even have a Mongolian bow
Is it even made horn? Probly a "replica" made of plastic.
@@kermitthefrog5926 probably some kind of solid fiberglass limb bow or modern laminate material (fibreglass, wood and carbon fibre)
natural, traditional horn sinew bows are about 40x as expensive as bows with solid fibreglass limbs, require more maintenance and can delaminate in extreme conditions, which reduces effective poundage and in extreme cases, can lead to the bow breaking and exploding in your face
but the natural horn sinew bows are more efficient, so theres that,
@@gabenewell4400 Oh god, proper traditional bows do not come cheap. -source, me, who recently bought one
@@seanreynolds7369 Ye I want a japanese yumi bow and their like 600 ducks -.-
The only reason you know this is because he mentioned it's not Mongolian is because he mentioned it, until about the 14th century both used virtually identical variations of the same bow type.
Bulgaria is from the nomadic family and I am so happy that finaly there is a bulgarian bow in a video for the horse/born bow! Good job!
would a slavic Bulgarian identifies themselfs as from the steppes?
@@ldarda6 , der Name "Bulgarien" stammt aus der Sprache der Protobulgaren. 681 wird ein neues Staat an der Donau gegründet. Die Bevölkerung da bestand fast nur aus Slawen, die Protobulgaren waren cirka 10.000, aber sie regierten das Staat. Nach 200 Jahren wird das Land christlich, d.h. es gibt eine einzige Religion für allen. Dann verlieren die Protobulgaren ihre Identität, nur der Name bleibt bis heute.
@@victortodorov2218 yeah excatly that's why I asked. Thanks for the reply.
@@ldarda6 Bulgarian state and people got their name after nomads who established state back in late 7th century having power over vast majority of Traco-Slavic population not only on territory of present day Bulgaria, only nomad elite had power in First Empire. Very rich history. Even under Byzantine rule there was composite bow production but surely during 13th and specially 14th even 15th century (during Ottomans). Bulgarian late medieval rulers as every Balkan rulers used oriental mercenary horseback archers however composite bow was present on foot (up to coastal Croatia bigger quantity of lighter tanged arrowheads than socketed ones talks in favour if composite bows). We have only glimpse insight of medieval culture in Balkans due to turbulent centuries. I am not talking that Ottomans ruined everything but Balkan was huge battlefield with devastating consequences in 15th century and during great wars specially, Hungarian-Turkish wars, Austro-Turkish wars, Wien war etc.
My god he seems like such a chill guy, one of the nicest people to explain something on modern rogue in a while!
Woman in the beginning was insane. Shooting a bow with that accuracy while riding a horse is wild
She's clearly spent a lot of time practicing the art. The behind-the-back shot was wild.
@@cracklingvoice yeah absolutely. Riding a horse like that is already hard enough, but shooting a bow at the same time is next level
You actually never saw the shot all the way from bow to target in same "clip" though.
Not saying it didn't happen, just saying that the video doesn't show it.
@@dabe8478 that would be a silly edit
@@benjaminmyers4117
I don't get your reply. Maybe I'm slow... (it has happened before :) )
This video makes me started archery back then. 3 years later I'm drawing and shooting 110lbs bows on foot. Just started to get on the horses now. Thank you guys for the video!
I know it's been a year but I'm curious on where you are now lol
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Archers +18% shooting speed, 100% accuracy.
Parthian Tactics.
Archers +1/+2 armor, +2/+4 attack against Pikemen.
Age of Empires all the way baby.
Age of Empires 2 is the best
Hah, literally what I thought during the whole video.
those mangudai are OP
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This REALLY hammers home the legendary Marshall Wyatt Earp's "Fast is fine, but accurate is final" maxim.
"Thats not gonna happen, hun" nice one jason
Man, I was going to try and make an _FPS Prussia_ joke but realized my geography would be stretching it too far...
I genuinely believe this is FPS Russia after his channel went dark, he's grown a beard and reverted to the ancient art of archery instead of guns.
Peter Griffin
You do realize that I posted _"Prussia"_ which was the historical name of Germany and not in any significant way associated with anything resembling modern day Russia until the USSR absorbed a very small section a few decades prior to the entire state of Prussia being officially dissolved after WWII*; that section being a chunk of Poland, a snip of Lithuania, and what is now known as Kaliningrad Oblast which is seemingly still being held by RU because it's a good non-frozen trade port more than anything else.
That's a long answer for what essentially amounts to "is joke."
*the "official" dissolution of Prussia was more or less a formality since the German Revolution had pretty well taken care of it several years prior but, you could say, the paperwork never really got done
FPS Grassia? Because steppes have grass?
Mongolians are an entirely different race from white Russians
Geography means nothing, a white Caucasian Berber dressing up as a black sub-Saharan Zulu would be equally ridiculous even both are "African"
FPS Scythia?
10:19 "For the love of me. DO NOT. DRY. FIRE. A. BOW."
Great video! I'm a traditional recurve archer and I've always wondered about other styles of archery. Thank you guys so much! Congrats on the expansion. Keep going!
This says something else now
The Yumi is much like Imperial Japan. Flaunting its ass off. LOL
Missed an opportunity to say "Hold my sake"
Too bad Japanese weren't in Mongolian's reach. If they did you wouldn't be saying this kind of bull shit.
@@CallMNinja, the Mongols tried to invade Japan twice. Failed on both occasions.
@@richardpalmer8478 To be fair the Mongols got screwed by weather moreso than the Japanese, but it would have been interesting seeing what Ghengis would do closer to Kyoto.
So this is were FPS Russia has been hiding. He grew a sick beard and took up archery.
Ted Myers damn
Did anything happen to fps
@Ted Myers That is false information. Well yeah his gun guy got killed, and yes his channel is inactive. The reason why he doesn't make gun videos anymore is because he got felony charges for marijuana possession so his guns got taken away and he can't legally obtain new ones because of that.
Right? That's a pretty fake sounding accent
10:20 The whole time leading up I'm like, "I hope that guy told them beforehand not to dry fire a bow." haha
The shame...
It was great. I've definitely heard some horror stories of dry fires gone wrong. Glad the bow held up. Any chance of a Part 2: Horse Riding Edition?
I definitely gave advanced warning about dry firing, haha. Part 2 is all about riding horses and shooting from horses.
To say that the bows were made and used in their respective countries due to tradition is not historically true. The European longbow was made from wood to survive the cooler damp conditions of the general climate of countries such as England. The Mongol or Turkish style bows were made from glued sinew and horn which survived well in the dryer conditions of those countries. They could not survive the moisture of the more northern countries (they literally fell apart) and likewise the wooden longbows dried out and soon broke in the hotter drier countries such as Turkey. I am sure that available materials also had a lot to do with it and a longbow could be made in a couple of days, whereas the Turkish style bows took months to make due to the glued lamination process. Everything I have said here is mentioned in books on the subject. Also the record for distance with a normally strung bow is held by an an English war bow: and is 412 metres.
no way! historical turkish bows had a range of more than 900 meters.. source:
dosyalar.nevsehir.edu.tr/33d4d0ae002fd6d0a9b38a6901c6fb3c/ottoman-bows.pdf
i love how he talks like all of the countrys are freinds
I wanted to see the whistling arrow
Roger Paul me too
Watch til the *very* end.
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The Modern Rogue Aw man, you beat me to it
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Hun: Size doesn't matter baby
Rogue: Been saying that for years!
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The things is calling an hun a mongolian is like calling canadians american
@@shotya9403 first of all, he said he was the hun. Secondly he isnt technically either because both empires ended hundreds of years ago.
@@shotya9403 firstly 1:27 he is referred to as "The Hun" so thats why I called him that, secondly he is neither a Mongol nor a Hun because the empires ended many hundred years ago.
@@arctrog aand the both empires came from same continent
shotya Canadians are American...
Loved this! I practice mounted archery, and I love how informative they made this video. Great job, guys!!
that man is a patient teacher.
I knew you were going to dry fire that bow.
Me too
I screamed a little when he dry fired
I had been incredibly uncomfortable for the 30 seconds prior to that, thinking "surely he won't surely he won't he's gonna do it isn't he"
As someone who loves Knight culture, I love learning about the other medieval cultures too! I love the love they have for the history of it all, like knowing about Khatra, or dressing for the part like I do. The sheer patience and will it takes to learn an ancient combat technique like firing an arrow when the modern firearm is a much more viable tool for self-defense... it's the shared love of the art and the history that keeps the practices alive to this day. 🥰🥰
I'm about as impressed with Brian remembering the katra thing as I am with episode as a whole. I love this one guys. Keep it up!
i knew he was gong to dry fire the bow for the start and started cringing as soon as he started drawing the bow.
I always wondered how they got around the archers' paradox back in the day.
These days, you can construct arrows fairly precisely to bend around it, but if you're one of the largest armies in the world, and you have tens if not hundreds of thousands of horseback bowmen firing arrows, you can't really be all that picky on what quality arrow you shoot.
Twisting the bow out of the way... Who'd have thought, learning something new every day! :D
The Mongols Conquered the World with Bows, Arrows, and Horse.
Every Mongols who Fight with Lance, Sabre, and Horse: "....bruh"
The Chinese who build them siege weapons: "...哥"
Yeah, I cringed when that dude said they only used mounted archers.
They didn't. Just raided and then they were destroyed.
@@levihorvath1977 Lmao they conquered almost everything infront of them, changed it forever, ruled for hundreds of years, and then slowly faded away.
@@Lipton3373 Learn the history man. If you search carefully you will find the truth :D
Levi Horváth you’re an actual fucking idiot
You guys forgot the most important thing , you need a throat singer in the back on the horse with you so if you miss his sound guide the arrow to the enemy
This guys accent turns on and off
Thats what happens when you are an immigrant from another country like when brits live in America or Americans live in the uk it comes on and off depends how long you lived there
Because he's FPS Russia.
Sean 762 it’s what happens when your trying to do an accent your can’t do well for over 3 hours of filming haha, he’s American
@@Evan-hq5dt ha! That was my first thought!
@@esnebta no
Okay hold on dude, the english longbow and a mongol recurve bow have a LOT more differences than just tradition. An english Longbow is a simple bow, it is constructed from a single piece of wood and gets its strength from the long draw. It has almost the same draw length as the arrows shot from the mongol bow. It was designed for mass volley fire from foot and to be easily produced. It fired large arrows and could contend with heavily mounted cavalry by killing the horse, piercing the armor, or simply landing in weak portions of the armor connections.
The mongol recurve bow is a composite bow. It was made from many different materials by people who had to be experts in the craft. It was not easily replaceable and could not be mass produced. It's superior construction was it's benefit and downfall, higher performance at the expense of decreased production. It was also more fragile than the longbow, weather conditions can cause damage to a composite bow that would not affect a longbow. The recurve gave it a shorter draw length and it fired a much lighter, shorter arrow, both advantages for horseback archery. It was designed for accurate and aimed fire from horseback with skilled shooters. It was intended for the armor of the 400's not the medieval period armor.
The Mongols overcame many of the issues by having a culture built around the bow, every man had one and gave extreme care to its maintenance, when they conscripted an "army" all of their tribesman already had all the tools they needed and the experience to use them. The conscript armies of other nations would've destroyed their bows within a month. Longbows were sturdy, durable, and crude, they could handle most abuse and when they couldn't they could be easily replaced. Medieval accounts even describe the knots from tree being left on some of the longbows being rushed into service.
The reason we think of longbows and see longbows is due to several reasons. You can certainly consider tradition to be one, but longbows, or more accurately their users, also had much more of an impact in the long run. The huns may have had more "territory" than the Romans but they held it for the life of one man. The longbow continued its domination of ranged combat in the European theater all the way into the gunpowder age. Outside of a historical context, the tale of Robin Hood popularized longbows and with plenty of customers clamoring for easily made longbows the producers were only too happy to oblige. Even without Robin Hood, simple bows make more sense to give to someone who wants to have a taste of archery without letting it consume their life. Furthermore, with the advent of modern compound bows and modern/less than modern crossbows, many of the performance advantages of a mongol bow can be surpassed. Mongol bows still remain a pricey, skilled craftsmanship item and are kept from the limelight more due to their nature than due to some sort of cultural bias.
This is amazing. I absolutely love that we have a channel where reasoned, educated historical debates break out.
That wasn't even a debate; that was a good bunch of useful info to people who are interested in all these different topics. So thanks for the info, and Modern Rogue, don't stop these sorts of interesting videos.
Thanks Modern Rogue, too often people get too tied up into their personal attachment to these weapons to realize that oftentimes the weapons are geared specifically to the nation using them. They may not be the absolute best performance wise but they may be the best suited to how that nation operated at that time. Panthers worked fine for the Germans but for the US the panthers need for maintenance would've crippled our supply line.
Jazmine, I think he was just talking about how I was making a counter argument to the guy in the vid. Got to agree with you though, since the other guy can't respond it's not going to be much of a debate. :) Happy that you liked the info and thanks for the nice comment!
Speaking of longbows, there is a story of a British officer who fought with a longbow and a Scottish broadsword during WWII. Also the only British soldier known to have felled an enemy with a longbow in the war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
RaeSyngKane I have both and the recurve is better for power but the longbow is far easier to use so for a novice I'd recommend a longbow
This was 5 years ago?? sheeeeshhh good idea putting this on youtube shorts
These guys really know how to keep me on the video. Nice loud and clear voices, engaging topic and the enthusiam is obvious.
oh, wow-- Thanks for the kind words!
His accent in genuine. Your ear is getting acclimated to it. His English is just good.
Whistling arrow, whistling arrow
Okay...
I hear Mongolians also used curved swords...curved swords!
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They also stole my sweetroll...
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"Drainplug!" My favourite word of this episode.
That was the best commentary on arrows I've seen. Great stuff.
13:20 I found that edit of him dropping the arrow and it hitting the target way funnier than is reasonable...
chad hill 😂
Ok I know someone else probably already said this but here it goes. There are some advantages to the longbow. 1. It is one piece of solid wood and doesn't require glue or any other parts. It is extremely durable in all weather condition unlike the composite bow that is made from different parts. It's like the ak of the bow world. It's also alot cheaper to produce and if the mongols had yew wood thats what they would have used for there composite bows. The yew wood has 2 different types of wood in it that makes it good for bow making. The outside wood is good at being pulled and the inside part is good at being compressed.
Taxus cuspidata is present in large portions of Asia, the mongols could have seen it potentially. Don't know if it works for bows as well as Taxus baccata
I now know what kind of bow I want. A Mongolian Horse Bow. They look so elegant…as compared with the high tech bows nowadays. But then again, those traditional bows were once high tech.. :):)
"Firing" Arrows....
𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐦𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐮𝐜𝐤.
@Professor Weaboo Shooting Loosing
Because you can't "fire" an arrow that's for FIREarm
Love the enthusiasm towards the history shown here - very infectious!
Too bad it's filled with inaccuracies and missinformation.
Anyone else remember the Mythbusters episode where the Build Team did this as an experiment? See if horseback archers (or in their case, jeep riding archers) had more force when shooting their arrows than they did from a standing position. That's why I love this show. It's like 1 part Mythbusters, 1 part Scam School, and 1 part watching Brian injure his hand every few episodes.
did they?
That unfortunate dry fire. But, I did that when I was 8. I praise this teacher/guest, he had more patience than my friend's uncle.
this production value is too damn high. I like it
Man, that opening came out so great, right?
It was pretty damn strong, yeah. So was the video overall! Chill vibe, great guest, fun facts. Good episode!
Finally I can now fulfill my conquest of East Asia. Thanks MR
You two guy inspiring me to be an good archer 2 years back, hats off..
And thus we were all brought here
We need an "Oh, Wow!" Counter for Jason
omg my heart dropped when he dry fired that gorgeous and EXPENSIVE bow
I am a bad person.
Expensive? I've never even seen where you can buy one, only make them...
But, even the materials are expensive if you don't hunt. Trying to buy enough sinew and the right horn anywhere is $$$...
I'm 99% certain that's a Genghis Khan from Alibow (I have one myself). Great bow for the price but they're only $100.
@@Gergination No its even cheaper its an alibow fiberglass turkish... No one would give an expensive bow to a beginner when incidents such as dry firing and limb twisting is very prone
Don’t know why, I have the feeling that he will dry fire the bow.
I had the same feeling and I know why. Hun did not explained them its no no. And they are ignorants....
Something to note. The shorter the bow, the "lighter" the arrow. The lighter the arrow, the less penetration. Less penetration, less damage. This is adapted for by getting close which is only really possible if you are mounted and your target isn't.
If you're on a fast moving horse, not a problem since you can get close (50ft or so), fire and leave. If you're an infantry archer, you can't leave so you want a heavy, high damage, missile to put your target on the ground now, not in three shots time.
I should also note that the "longbow" using nations had to deal with significantly heavier armour on their targets. This is why the vast majority changed to crossbows which were much better at armour penetration. The Chinese used crossbows against the Mongols and found a small problem. The Mongols didn't use heavy armour but could fire much faster. The attrition rate was not in favour of the crossbows.
I love how 1 in every 5 videos I am like, "this is going to be boring"
Then watch as an expert gives a wonderful rundown, and become thoroughly amused :)
This channel is seriously underrated.
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I sure will, keep up the great work!
The Modern Rogue You should totally be on TV.
JonMacFhearghuis Hell no. TV has restrictions.
The Brennan if Jackass can be on TV then Modern Rogue can be. The issue isn’t the restrictions, it’s the fact that when it comes to videos like these it’s a format much better suited to RUclips, where they have more freedom.
I felt my heart sink when he dry fired that bow.
i am learning korean bow and its pretty similar with mongoliam bow. right sided shooting and using thumbring....by far this vid is so educative. thank you so much!
The channel Smarter everyday did a couple episodes on the archers paradox. Check it out. And as soon as Brian picked up the bow I knew he was going to dry fire it.
That's actually a really great point. I'm a big fan of SmarterEveryDay but totally forgot he did some archery videos a while back, added a card and link in the description!
Me to. He is very informative
Hey,this video is so cool!( ^_^)
I'm from China,which has also experienced many wars during the 12～14th century.
It's true that ancient mongol soldiers were "just nothing more than horses and bow".But actually,the mongol empire alrealy had different types of soldiers after its conquering in the mid-east area. In fact, ancient mongol people were very smart at war. They know how to learn advanced technology from other countries.And before they start to conquer Europe,they already govern some Asia countries for many years.So,when they came to Europe,their army was a sum of light&heavy cavalry, different kinds of siege trains and a large number of following carpenters. That was totally different to European army at that time.Maybe mongolia army is more advanced at that time.
Thanks for finishing all my words.And thanks for sharing this video again.
7:10 The fact that is is really wide makes it perfect for your story as well; it requires the same thing. just to get cut, no piercing necessary. So it has a wider hitbox to hit the smaller hitbox of the rope to free your party member so you can continue grinding that coin through those scams.
Just bought two Mongolian bows. I thought 50lbs is ok... then I got more into the correct grip and I immediately ordered a 35lbs bow as I want to try this grip out.
Same. I got one in the mail...
_I should have ordered the child's version. I'm not ready for this._
The quality of these videos are absolutely amazing.
So glad you like them, man. help us spread the word?
Dam ... that dry fire ...
That's the first thing I tell someone before I give him one of my bows: DON'T DRY FIRE MY BOW !!!
Fire?
that dry fire really hurt me ouchhhhhhh... once done it accidentally with 60 pound compound (twisted raiser so string jumped off the wheels) and man i'm glad it didn't destroy the limbs... nice tutorial btw! gotta get me some turkish bows now!
The samurai bow is a recurved longbow with an asymetrical draw with the lower limb short enough to be used on horseback. It was highly effective shooting long heavy shafts.
That thing launched torpedos.
What makes me curious is acually they're mostly using yumi on horseback despite the size is actually similar to longbow.
I honestly think he is my favorite guest host. Bring him back everytime in the same outfit. You'll be talking about the deep web or hacking again and he'll just say he has an arrow for that.
hahaha--- that'd be great!
It could be the arrow hawkeye shoots into the helicarrier computer in Avengers to disable the engines
@@akhasshativeritsol1950 there's the genZ kid who makes everything about marvel smh
@@smellypatel5272 If by "genZ" you mean "millennial" and by "marvel" you mean "pop culture in general," and by "everything" you mean "things with a direct similarity," then yup, you're exactly right!
And if by "smh" you mean, "So Much Honor to you, you brave internet warrior," then I say no need to thank me, all in a day's work :)
@@akhasshativeritsol1950 ok zoomer
So that's what happened to FPS Russia
PNathan NOOOOOO FPS?
FPS Prussia
That isnt really him right?
@@davidkrowa4153 No, right now hes a host on a podcast. Painkiller Already
I was looking for this comment!
The dude constantly commenting in the navy coat is like Badger from Breaking Bad. Even the subtle mention of Spock at 13:48. 😂
never used a bow before but finally bought one. watched this video and hit the target at least on my first try. great vid!
This was the best explanation/rationale for drawing on the right-hand side of the bow (if the bow is in your left hand, that is) that I have heard. Anyone who has advocated it in the past has always said that the reason was because it was faster and just better somehow. I like this video because the Hun gave actual reasons for his methods, reasons that made sense. I will still draw on the left-hand side of the bow but I will also not be riding a horse.
But where's the whistling arrow?
Really wanted to see that one :(
oh like those nerf bomb things
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He didnt even say "Dosho!" before firing. Talk about disrespect.
that means, "get down!" In Mongolian. btw
@@usukhbayar3595 I know. I played Ghost of Tsushima
I died a little inside when he dry-fired that bow.
great game
I LOVE HOW PASSIONATE THIS MAN IS IT"S AMAZING!
It's a little disingenuous to say that the record was set with that kind of bow. It's a modern design based on older recursive bows. But what's really amazing is that the record holder was 14 at the time.
Johnathan Gross I'm surprised it wasn't done with some crazy compound bow honestly.
Very true, he also failed to mention that a "flight bow" is massively different to a target bow and especially a war bow.
There is a flight record for most types of bows, including compound bows. And as you might expect the compound flight bow shoots a lighter arrow further than any traditional composite flight bow
But whereas effective "war" arrows tend to be heavy, flight shafts tend to be very light and so are less effective as artillery. They go further but do less damage when they get there.
125 grains, 275 grains, 750 grains or 1750 grains at arrow speeds? Do the math.
In any case, the Mongol's main military advantage was not in their archery equipment per se, but in how it was employed. In their co-ordination and discipline in achieving clearly understood objectives, they wrote the book on modern cavalry tactics.
@@qazaqwert compounds are gross man
@Out-Of-Context that is yet to be proved. Any ancient scripts could be overly stated
The Hun's accent keeps shifting throughout the episode.
Sebastian Moran yeah thats just how te accent is
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Hungarian but he is not decendant of hun, huns from central Asia - very few Hungarians are actual Huns only ruling class mixed
@@PNJB_R smh....Huns and Hungarians are not the same thing. Its a fairly known misconception.
Huns were a 3rd to 4th century Multi-Ethnic Nomanic confederation of Turkic(ruling class) with Slavic,Germanic,Alani and other smaller ethnic groups.
Hungarians or rather what they call themselves are Magyars and are from the 9th century AD about 500 years after the Huns.(Hungarian is just what the Europeans called them because their culture resembled Huns).
And the ruling class were Finno-Ugric speaking tribes with secondary Turkic(Kabars,Cumans,Pechenegs etc) with some Alani(Jasz) elements.
Fun Fact: The closest relatives according to grave DNA and linguistics from 9th century graves is the Mansi and Khanty people of the Yugra region(Slavs also called the Magyars or hungarians as Uhgors or Ugre people.
@@mongolchiuud8931 We didn't just popped out in the 9th century, that's when we arrived at our current homeland but we were a separate distingt nomadic nation centuries before that.
I thought the English long bows were feared for very good reason. Heavy draw weight. Longer draw, which means it can fire heavier arrows. And could hit at a much further distance than most other bows and can still kill. Plus when the string broke, the bow could be used as a quarter staff.
English longbow are long to stand tremendous constrains of enormous draw wheights.
Their shape is like that because it's easy and fast to make them from a stave.
I somehow only discovered this awesome video now.
You should try using different targets. I did archery as my elective sport in high school, and one thing that surprised me was the day they brought in animals painted on cardboard with higher scores near the heart, instead of the standard circular bullseye. The entire team's score almost tripled, despite the size of the targets being smaller. I guess it's just something primitive in the brain.
Tzisorey Tigerwuf Ha! A primitive hunter’s instinct.
I wonder if also the fact that it's a smaller target helps people focus and aim more instinctively. I may try that experiment myself, and make a smaller target sometime and compare how well I do vs the large traditional one I normally use.
It's called aim small miss smaller