You're not giving much mention to the fact that Dan threw with his entire body. His strength did not come from his arm alone but from a combination of his compacted throwing motion along with the torque on his torso. I would dare to say that's where he got the majority of his power but also what made his throws look so amazing. With such a compact throwing motion it would not look like you could get such a powerful throw. It was deceptive. It shot out like a freaking bullet. I remember back in the day hearing cornerbacks say they could not play off the receiver against Dan Marino. His throw was so deceptive fast you could not close the gap before the ball got there. Now I've seen some quarterbacks with some pretty quick throwing motions in the last decade but never matched with the accuracy of Dan Marino. He was a true gunslinger.
I did not get to see him play much but based on seeing highlights and comparing him to the other quarterbacks of the time, its obvious him and John Elway really changed the game forever.
He is and will likely be the greatest thrower of the football ever. I mean Bill Walsh and Joe Montana have both said so and I trust their opinions immensely.
Dan Marino has / had a QUICK RELEASE primarily (I'm not saying he didn't have any "GOD GIVEN TALENT", 'cause I'm pretty sure that played a part, also) because his father was a football coach, who taught him how to throw a football - THE CORRECT WAY - FROM HIS EAR - right from the beginning, as soon as he started throwing a football, instead of " WINDING IT UP" like almost all other kids, because their hands are too small, etc, and a football has a unique shape. Name any other object a kid - with small hands, etc, - is going to hold in their hands that's shaped like a football? TO FLIP THE PERSPECTIVE: Just look at how Philip Rivers held / threw a football. Rivers father was also a football coach and as a kid, Rivers wanted to emulate the QB's he watched throwing the football, but his hands, etc, were too small, so he had to "WIND" THE BALL UP TO "THROW IT!" And unlike Marino's father, Rivers father never taught him how to throw the football "FROM HIS EAR", from the beginning, so Rivers developed a "FUNKY DELIVERY!" Over the years, and especially after he was drafted by the Chargers (I currently live in San Diego and was here when the Chargers drafted him), coaches wanted to change his "DELIVERY", but he was so accurate throwing the football they left it alone, even though they didn't like it.
This is true. Dan has eluded to it several times throughout his career. That said, his size, reflexes, arm strength, confidence, intuition and trust in his abilities are definitely God given. There will never be another Marino... He was sacked 6 times in 1988, a full 16 game season for Christ's sake!
Like a lot of qbs and coaches have said, if you’re going to teach a kid to play QB, have them emulate Dan Marino. Marino’s decision making was quicker than anyone also
Dan didn't need to wind up to throw the football 🏈 harder and faster than everyone, that helps. Only When you have that kind of arm strength and arm talent you can do this, not many the genetic arm strength to ever throw like Dan Marino!
My suggestion would be to show the throwing motion from beginning to end. At least once man. Mechanics are about going from one speed to the next in a harmonious way. Thanks for the video.
Watching this after watching your "throw 60 yards video" and it looks like Dan doesn't do the same wrist stuff as Allen, unless I'm not sophisticated enough to interpret what I'm watching.
JT O'Sullivan's videos frequently point out bad NFL QB technique (hip position, foot movement). It is fascinating that the best in the country have bad technique after years of training. I assume it is because it is a sport developed by Americans and we have a reputation for not emphasizing technique compared to the rest of the world (Olympic sports). We were followers of other countries, frequently stealing their coaches and training methods (why the Miracle on Ice was so impressive). Football didn't have strength and flexibility coaches until the 60s. I imagine if the Soviets played football, they would have figured out the most efficient way to throw a football and trained everyone to that. Maybe Marino's technique.
Yeah there are flaws in every technique though.. There’s no one most efficient way to throw a football just like there’s no best way to swing a bat or a golf club.. We all have certain strengths/weaknesses based off our body types, muscle fibers, length of levers, muscle attachments, etc. it’s just about trying to find what works for each particular person that is important
@@Performancelabofcalifornia I agree that different body types may require alternate techniques to overcome say short arms, small hands and other dimensions.But specific motions and certain arm positions are a requirement, and there is no excuse to not have proper strength in any part of the body or limited flexibility. I can't see allowing too many differences in technique. Olympic sports skills typically aren't trained differently based on body type (books are written with one set of techniques). It would be interesting to hear a discussion on the best throwing techniques based on body types. To your point, the Soviets would have screened their athletes based on body type and then applied the most efficient techniques. Again, maybe Marino on both counts. I was never impressed with the culture of football's lack of technical development, although it is improving. It seems like the worst development sport for an athlete to transition to other sports. I like videos like this. My daughter was thin as a rail in softball, so there was a bias against her in playing certain positions, until they saw she had a rocket (great technique and strong hands).
@@jimstevenson424 yeah there are some general parts of throwing the football that are going to be the same no matter what. However, it is different than Olympic lifting or even pitching in baseball because there are way more variables when throwing a football. (Is the ball going 60 yards or 5 yards, is the receiver moving or the target stationary, to the right or left) all these require changes to the foot work and timing of throwing where a clean and jerk is the same technique, only variable that changes is the weight. Therefore the technique is much more complex I do agree there can be more coaching at earlier levels. But football typically has a coach for each position in high school and 2-3 per position above high school in some cases which is much more than any other sport to my knowledge..
Nobody can throw like Marino did.
You're not giving much mention to the fact that Dan threw with his entire body. His strength did not come from his arm alone but from a combination of his compacted throwing motion along with the torque on his torso. I would dare to say that's where he got the majority of his power but also what made his throws look so amazing. With such a compact throwing motion it would not look like you could get such a powerful throw. It was deceptive. It shot out like a freaking bullet. I remember back in the day hearing cornerbacks say they could not play off the receiver against Dan Marino. His throw was so deceptive fast you could not close the gap before the ball got there. Now I've seen some quarterbacks with some pretty quick throwing motions in the last decade but never matched with the accuracy of Dan Marino. He was a true gunslinger.
I did not get to see him play much but based on seeing highlights and comparing him to the other quarterbacks of the time, its obvious him and John Elway really changed the game forever.
He is and will likely be the greatest thrower of the football ever. I mean Bill Walsh and Joe Montana have both said so and I trust their opinions immensely.
Drew Bledsoe also had a quick release.
No lies told here
Dan Marino has / had a QUICK RELEASE primarily (I'm not saying he didn't have any "GOD GIVEN TALENT", 'cause I'm pretty sure that played a part, also) because his father was a football coach, who taught him how to throw a football - THE CORRECT WAY - FROM HIS EAR - right from the beginning, as soon as he started throwing a football, instead of " WINDING IT UP" like almost all other kids, because their hands are too small, etc, and a football has a unique shape. Name any other object a kid - with small hands, etc, - is going to hold in their hands that's shaped like a football?
TO FLIP THE PERSPECTIVE:
Just look at how Philip Rivers held / threw a football.
Rivers father was also a football coach and as a kid, Rivers wanted to emulate the QB's he watched throwing the football, but his hands, etc, were too small, so he had to "WIND" THE BALL UP TO "THROW IT!"
And unlike Marino's father, Rivers father never taught him how to throw the football "FROM HIS EAR", from the beginning, so Rivers developed a "FUNKY DELIVERY!"
Over the years, and especially after he was drafted by the Chargers (I currently live in San Diego and was here when the Chargers drafted him), coaches wanted to change his "DELIVERY", but he was so accurate throwing the football they left it alone, even though they didn't like it.
This is true. Dan has eluded to it several times throughout his career. That said, his size, reflexes, arm strength, confidence, intuition and trust in his abilities are definitely God given. There will never be another Marino...
He was sacked 6 times in 1988, a full 16 game season for Christ's sake!
Yeah i have the same problem, Ihave small hands and i have a hard time holding the ball or throwing it, curse these genes.
@@chasechevy8933 man i wish the ball was smaller
Football isn't that big bro...
Dan had Bruce Smith coming at his blind side his whole career, I imagine he still wakes up from nightmares trying to dump the ball off
And your team is 0-4 superbowl
Like a lot of qbs and coaches have said, if you’re going to teach a kid to play QB, have them emulate Dan Marino. Marino’s decision making was quicker than anyone also
Dan didn't need to wind up to throw the football 🏈 harder and faster than everyone, that helps. Only When you have that kind of arm strength and arm talent you can do this, not many the genetic arm strength to ever throw like Dan Marino!
cant you train for arm strength
@@jmgonzales7701 absolutely
Yeah but people can emulate his throwing motion and he used his body, he just leaned a lot as he threw
My suggestion would be to show the throwing motion from beginning to end. At least once man. Mechanics are about going from one speed to the next in a harmonious way. Thanks for the video.
Cool idea! Thanks man:)
Watching this after watching your "throw 60 yards video" and it looks like Dan doesn't do the same wrist stuff as Allen, unless I'm not sophisticated enough to interpret what I'm watching.
No Dan is very unique. Everyone is different in how they load and depending on the type of throw the wrist position is going to change at release
Allen's is very very similar
JT O'Sullivan's videos frequently point out bad NFL QB technique (hip position, foot movement). It is fascinating that the best in the country have bad technique after years of training. I assume it is because it is a sport developed by Americans and we have a reputation for not emphasizing technique compared to the rest of the world (Olympic sports). We were followers of other countries, frequently stealing their coaches and training methods (why the Miracle on Ice was so impressive). Football didn't have strength and flexibility coaches until the 60s. I imagine if the Soviets played football, they would have figured out the most efficient way to throw a football and trained everyone to that. Maybe Marino's technique.
Yeah there are flaws in every technique though.. There’s no one most efficient way to throw a football just like there’s no best way to swing a bat or a golf club.. We all have certain strengths/weaknesses based off our body types, muscle fibers, length of levers, muscle attachments, etc. it’s just about trying to find what works for each particular person that is important
@@Performancelabofcalifornia I agree that different body types may require alternate techniques to overcome say short arms, small hands and other dimensions.But specific motions and certain arm positions are a requirement, and there is no excuse to not have proper strength in any part of the body or limited flexibility. I can't see allowing too many differences in technique. Olympic sports skills typically aren't trained differently based on body type (books are written with one set of techniques). It would be interesting to hear a discussion on the best throwing techniques based on body types. To your point, the Soviets would have screened their athletes based on body type and then applied the most efficient techniques. Again, maybe Marino on both counts. I was never impressed with the culture of football's lack of technical development, although it is improving. It seems like the worst development sport for an athlete to transition to other sports. I like videos like this. My daughter was thin as a rail in softball, so there was a bias against her in playing certain positions, until they saw she had a rocket (great technique and strong hands).
@@jimstevenson424 yeah there are some general parts of throwing the football that are going to be the same no matter what. However, it is different than Olympic lifting or even pitching in baseball because there are way more variables when throwing a football. (Is the ball going 60 yards or 5 yards, is the receiver moving or the target stationary, to the right or left) all these require changes to the foot work and timing of throwing where a clean and jerk is the same technique, only variable that changes is the weight. Therefore the technique is much more complex I do agree there can be more coaching at earlier levels. But football typically has a coach for each position in high school and 2-3 per position above high school in some cases which is much more than any other sport to my knowledge..
Dan was tall and strong
Jeff George had the fastest release, but terrible attitude.
George was quick, but not like Marino!