The DARKEST HOUR In Tennis History

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  • @jamesr2164
    @jamesr2164 Год назад +36

    When the stabbing occurred in 93, Seles was already sitting at eight singles grand slams after just a few short years on the professional tour; just three grand slams away from tying Steffi (who had been on the tour since the early '80s). No one in the open era has won as fast and as much as Seles [in the open era]. Because of that fact, it truly is no surprise why so many people consider Seles as someone who could have been the greatest women's tennis player the world has ever seen. One thing is definitely for certain, we were all robbed of what could have become between the two throughout the years. Possibly even a rivalry somewhat similar to Navratilova and Evert.

    • @paskferr
      @paskferr Год назад +2

      It would have been better than Evert and Navratilova, and I would like to have seen the rivalry between Monica and the young sisters as well 😢

    • @netfun8087
      @netfun8087 Год назад +4

      I don’t think I’ve ever heard Seles’ meteoric rise summarized so clearly and succinctly. Well done.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад +3

      I doubt there would have be any serious rivalry once Seles achieved adulthood, 21. Graf would have been 25, and in the last 4 years of her career, she retired at 29. I would expect Seles to achieve another 30 Grand slams during the height of her career. Venus Williams wouldn't be a significant force, she's 11 years younger, until Seles turned 30 by which time she would likely have retired or had children. Likely Seles total count of Grand slams would be 40+.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Год назад +1

      Interestingly, despite the obvious consequences of the stabbing, Graf is the player whom Seles faced the most in grand slam matches, resulting to a 6-4 lead for Graf, tied 3-3 in finals.

    • @ehmp-gl7yn
      @ehmp-gl7yn Год назад +2

      She would have easily become the greatest ever with 25+ Slams. She was fearless, ruthless, whereas Navratilova, Graf and even Serena would often choke when facing real challenges

  • @samprovenzanorptr
    @samprovenzanorptr Год назад +28

    8 grand slams before turning 20. That is a record that will never be broken again. Her interview on Evert’s podcast was one of the best interviews ever. Give it a listen

    • @lesleytaranthamusic2851
      @lesleytaranthamusic2851 Год назад +2

      Thanks for mentioning the podcast--that was amazing! 😃👍

    • @victoriachubb572
      @victoriachubb572 Год назад +2

      Can you send the podcast link please??

    • @netfun8087
      @netfun8087 Год назад +1

      I found this on RUclips, is this what you’re referring to, or do I need to find an actual podcast?:
      ruclips.net/video/UlWhMNK7BcA/видео.html

    • @samprovenzanorptr
      @samprovenzanorptr Год назад +1

      You got it!

  • @arcieaguila2760
    @arcieaguila2760 Год назад +6

    yes.Seles was like an Express Train in court, beating her opponent swiftly and loudly. Watching her play was like watching an animation game Fast Forward.

  • @marfu1119
    @marfu1119 Год назад +10

    People think Monica Seles would of been the greatest female tennis player of all time. She only won one grand slam after the stabbing. But winning 8 grand slams as a teenager is amazing. I don't think any teenager will win that many grand slams so young again. That mad man reunion Seles career.

    • @danicadabic9789
      @danicadabic9789 Год назад +3

      She only won one after the stabbing because she was not the same person ever after it. She gained weight as well to drown her depression.

    • @marfu1119
      @marfu1119 Год назад +1

      @@danicadabic9789 Yes true, that's a shame though and she was very young too when that awful situation occurred. Yes some people do use food as a coping mechanism.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад +1

      I was amazed she could play at all given the double blow of her fathers death from cancer as she was trying to recover from the attack.

  • @vanessacort2370
    @vanessacort2370 Год назад +10

    Seles was indeed on her way to great things having accomplished so much!...8 grand slams by the age of 20!! So sad tht her career essentially ended this way 😐

  • @Siahaan_and_Co
    @Siahaan_and_Co Год назад +3

    AS A MEN, I CRIED WHEN I HEARD THE NEWS.
    MONICA SELES IS ONE HELL OF A FIGHTER, CAME OUT OF NOWHERE CAME TO U.S WITH HER DREAMS, WORKED HARD & MADE IT BIG. I ADORE MONICA AND HAS INSPIRED ME TO NEVER GIVE UP TO KEEP MOVING DOING GOOD THINGS FOR OTHERS SURROUNDING ME. I LOVE YOU MONICA SELES🤍😇

  • @MattmanLovesMusic
    @MattmanLovesMusic Год назад +9

    For sure, Seles would have had more Slams. Such a terrible traumatic experience. Imagine thinking about someone doing it again while you are trying to play or having a flashback. Monica was so accurate and strong with those two-handed shots. Even on grass, she might have won some more titles (maybe Wimbledon one or two times with proper coaching and strategy and improved serve). But definitely on clay and hard courts she would have had close to 20 Slams total if not for the stabbing. I know he was mentally ill, but maybe he should have been in jail longer. He could have paralyzed Seles.

  • @deluxewaterless7229
    @deluxewaterless7229 Год назад +5

    What happened to Monica was appalling . She no doubt would have won at about 25 Grand Slams in her career and became goat of women's tennis . But this sick, and deranged beast came along and spoiled it all for her .

    • @richardbool4232
      @richardbool4232 Год назад +2

      what was more appalling was that all the other tennis players voted to strip her of her number one in the world title, and she practically lost every thing over it .

  • @aleksandarfrick2656
    @aleksandarfrick2656 Год назад +1

    Gunter Prache is the most important man for Steffi Graf's career . Monica swept her easily few times in finals before attack . Graff should make monument to her fan boy Gunter Prahe . This is truth - so help me god !

  • @smurfette1509
    @smurfette1509 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the video. I think of Seles a lot when I see what I think is extraordinary (and much needed and appreciated) security at all ATP and WTA matches. I'm glad to see that every time a player sits down there is more than one set of eyes monitoring what is going on in back of them and I assume all directions are tightly monitored. Really bad things can happen in life and something would've been different in the rankings if this didn't happen.

  • @nickpond9337
    @nickpond9337 Год назад +3

    THAT MAN , THING SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP FOR LIFE ; not even going to say his name , .

  • @jujumusique1305
    @jujumusique1305 Год назад +1

    Think, Seles had won more than half of the grand slam tournaments she had played when the attack happened. 8 out of 14 (losing one final).
    From early 1991 to spring 1993, her grand slam match record was 55-1.
    3 Australian opens in a row (winning on first attempt) 3 French opens in a row, 2 US opens in a row, 3 YECs in a row.
    All in less than 6 full years on the tour.

  • @PepTalkTillYouDrop
    @PepTalkTillYouDrop Год назад +3

    Some people have little to no luck 😢
    What a bizzare story.

  • @mummyd1990
    @mummyd1990 Год назад +2

    Why on earth would anyone stab someone over a fucking tennis match??????

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад

      Why not ? Modern sport sponsorship, advertising and prize money add up to millions of $.

  • @robertplant2059
    @robertplant2059 Год назад +1

    And the German gov gave the guy no time.
    Despite admitting he wanted to "hurt" Seles, Parche sensationally avoided any jail time as he was handed a two-year suspended sentence.

  • @lenamarie8486
    @lenamarie8486 Год назад +5

    The stabber died in August 2022.

    • @darrensmith4944
      @darrensmith4944 Год назад

      I hope the bastard is rotting in hell....

    • @thomasbloodsinn4961
      @thomasbloodsinn4961 Год назад +4

      No loss to humanity sadly to say he got away lightly the sicko, good old German bleeding heart judiciary.

    • @williambunter3311
      @williambunter3311 Год назад

      And now he is in hell!

    • @mattliechty1269
      @mattliechty1269 6 месяцев назад

      30 years too late for Monica sadly. But perfect timing for Steffi

  • @piotrwolski4526
    @piotrwolski4526 Год назад +14

    Graf would win half of the GS she did if not for the stabbing , and would spent maybe 200 weeks at no. 1. I will never consider her a GOAT. She can wipe Seles shoes, not mentioning Serena and Navratilova. At 19 Seles already had 8 GS finals. Every person who is not Graf's fanatic or in denial knows what would have happened if there was no stabbing and her father did not die.
    Basically Monica had 8 GS finals won by 19. She didn't even start her career yet.
    Why do Germans always do so much evil in the world ? I guess they have it in their blood after Hitler.

    • @stevyyjay85
      @stevyyjay85 Год назад +1

      Half of 22 GS singles titles for Steffi would be 11. Steffi had already won 11 GS titles before the Seles-stabbing:
      1987 - FO - (age: 17)
      1988 - AO - (age: 18)
      1988 - FO - (age: 18)
      1988 - W - (age: 19)
      1988 - USO - (age: 19)
      1989 - AO - (age: 19)
      1989 - W - (age: 20)
      1989 - USO - (age: 20)
      1990 - AO - (age: 20)
      1991 - W - (age: 22)
      1992 - W - (age: 23)
      3x AO, 2x FO, 4x W and 2x USO - winning each GS tournament at least twice. Graf was also only 23 when she won Wimbledon 1992. So, even as a teenager, Graf had 6 GS singles titles to her name as well.
      To think that Steffi would have not won another GS tournament in her career is really delusional and extreme.
      I think only these 6 GS victories during Seles' absence should be viewed with a question mark.
      1993 - FO
      1993 - W
      1993 - USO
      1994 - AO
      1995 - FO
      1995 - W
      No! Strike the Wimbledon tournaments bc Seles had never won W before. So, 4 GS titles with a question mark.
      These GS titles were more than deserved:
      1995 - USO
      1996 - FO
      1996 - W
      1996 - USO
      1999 - FO
      In the documentary about Seles' stabbing, it said that her injury was very minor and that the blade went 2 cm deep and that the injury would have healed completely in 6-8 weeks. Had the incident not messed her up psychologically, she could have returned by Wimbledon 1993 and could have been up to form by the US Open 1993.

    • @stevyyjay85
      @stevyyjay85 Год назад

      One more thing: When Seles returned the WTA protected her ranking and points from before the stabbing and that is how she was co-ranked #1 with Graf in 1995 and 1996, accumulating another 64 weeks at #1. I think that was deserved, obviously, so I do not understand the criticizm that the WTA players always get for voting against the idea of listing Seles at #1 in 1993-1995 (her return)... That would have been beyond messy for the statistics.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад

      @@stevyyjay85
      I believe the intention was to say Graf would have won half the Grand Prix she did in the period post the stabbing, which given Seles record in the 4 years prior would be expected. It should also be remember having to compete with a high probability of loss would increase the pressure on Graf considerably.
      The real loss to Seles, post was the stabbing, was a loss of believe in her own safety on a tennis court preventing her from concentrating on events during the match. No longer do any tennis players cover their face with a towel during rest periods to maximise their recall of the events which had just occurred, no one believes they can afford to drop their guard. (The subsequent events in Skating where an iron bar was used in an attempt to break a knee to disable a rival has lead to a guarded approach in all sports. )
      As to Seles not winning Wimbledon, it should be remembered the reason she was in Hamburg was to get practice prior to the French, due to having a period without tournaments to recover from the Australian. At 19, tiredness is a significant factor as she was still growing. The short period between the French and Wimbledon is a disadvantage to teenage players who do not yet have their adult strength and endurance.
      (The reason 21 was the age of citizenship in much of the World until recently was because no one below the age of 21 was strong enough to wear a suit of armour.)

  • @jakelasceski4288
    @jakelasceski4288 Год назад +7

    “monica seles” - Maria Sharapova

    • @chipandchargeTV
      @chipandchargeTV  Год назад +1

      ?

    • @roter13
      @roter13 Год назад

      @@chipandchargeTV A bunch of tennis players were asked who their toughest rival was. All of them said Serena Williams and then Sharapova said "Monica Seles" even though Serena has beaten her a million times in a row.

    • @chipandchargeTV
      @chipandchargeTV  Год назад

      @@roter13 Oh, okay, didn't know that. Says a lot about Seles then.

    • @roter13
      @roter13 Год назад +1

      @@chipandchargeTV I think it says more about Sharapova and not wanting to give Serena the satisfaction.

    • @neptune1525
      @neptune1525 Год назад

      ​@@roter13 ahahaha I laughed sooo hard when she said that 😂😂😊

  • @Ghosted760
    @Ghosted760 Год назад

    Monica Seles (aka The Wombat) was never the same afterwards. Tragedy.

  • @Sal736zar
    @Sal736zar Год назад +1

    I remember this incident I was watching it live

  • @ManjuNath-yy1br
    @ManjuNath-yy1br Год назад +1

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    NEVER TAKE A REVENGE 😎😎😎😎🤔🤔🤔😥😥😥❤💖🌹🇮🇳🙏.

  • @bobbyhanly3466
    @bobbyhanly3466 Год назад +1

    Seles had Graf's number. Sadly it puts a cloud on Steffi's achievements as well. Did she pay the guy? We'll never know.

  • @larrydeleau8538
    @larrydeleau8538 Год назад +3

    She would of had 25 grand slam titles, easily..maybe 30...Serena wouldn't of even been a blip on her radar.

    • @larrydeleau8538
      @larrydeleau8538 Год назад

      @@DG-mt8 maybe so..but comparing is fun..Jack/Tiger...Jordan/Lebron..Montana/Brady...helps break up the day. That's all

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад

      Given Venus was 11 years younger than Seles and the older sister, there would have been little competition. By the time Graf met the Williams sisters she was already declining.

  • @franciap.7851
    @franciap.7851 Год назад

    Very sad and crazy! Why that man didn’t pay in the prison and with money his crazy fanatic obsesion? 😮😡

  • @fernaldpaperguest4646
    @fernaldpaperguest4646 Год назад

    Stabbing woman in the back - how more of a coward one can get

  • @billanderson6897
    @billanderson6897 Год назад +2

    So the idiot that did this to her got essentially no punishment? Unforgiveable. He should rot in jail cell 3x3 ft for his entire life.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад +1

      There are 3 questions
      (a) Was he legally sane, the manner of attack demonstrated considerable cunning.
      (b) How did he know where Seles was ? Remember he as a Graf fan, not Seles.
      (c) What investigation was made to determine how he got there. How paid for, etc.

  • @fredrotolo7224
    @fredrotolo7224 Год назад +2

    Before Stabbing Seles have only reached winbledon final one time. She wasn’t a great grass player. And after stabbing, Graf didn’t have great seasons in 93 and 94. Whatever
    I think their rivalry if it had lasted would have made both players better, like Federer and Nadal, MacEnroe and Borg or Evert and Navratilova.

    • @jamesr2164
      @jamesr2164 Год назад +2

      She had only played Wimbledon three times before she was stabbed, and reached the final on her third try. Only three times. And after the stabbing she wasn't quite the same player as before, and possibly grass was going to be her least successful surface, but she did win a grass court title when she came back. I do believe that if the stabbing hadn't happened she would have won Wimbledon, but unfortunately we'll never know now what could have been.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад

      @@jamesr2164
      Borg, who won Wimbledon 6 times in a row, was 20 when he had his first Wimbledon win, and the fact Seles reached the final on her 3rd try, suggests she had great potential as a grass player. It should be remembered grass tends to favour the physically stronger players, due to the shorter rallies and slightly more uneven surface, and Seles at 19 did not have her full adult strength. (Full adult strength is not usually achieved until the age of 21.)

  • @lazirdamhaothman9449
    @lazirdamhaothman9449 Год назад +2

    Pity seles

  • @petergreen5940
    @petergreen5940 Год назад

    This can only happen in germany!!!

  • @terryharvey3604
    @terryharvey3604 Год назад +6

    Graf’s family had something to do with that stabbing I don’t care what anyone says.

    • @chipandchargeTV
      @chipandchargeTV  Год назад +3

      Why you think that?

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад +3

      @@chipandchargeTV
      Remember Graf father was covering up the costs of an affair by tax dodging. This came out when Graf became less dominant and the authorities caught up with him. I believe Graf was innocent but her father had motive. The case bears similarities to the Lennon shooting.

    • @olivierhalasa
      @olivierhalasa Год назад

      Im also sure she had something to do with that.

    • @scotte8629
      @scotte8629 Год назад

      you are a psychopath to state such things.

  • @gregorystuby2761
    @gregorystuby2761 Год назад

    I think she would have run in to the Williamses, as did Graf.

    • @chipandchargeTV
      @chipandchargeTV  Год назад

      Possible.

    • @gaelgarciabernal2434
      @gaelgarciabernal2434 Год назад +2

      Thanks for pointing that out Einstein! Suffice to say, Graf fared well against both Venus and Serena, even though she was wrapping up her career when they emerged. I doubt that from 1997-2005, Venus or Serena would have dominated a healthy Seles, especially if she had never been stabbed. Seles had the power, focus and strategy to contend with them and steam roll them on clay, where fitness is vital.

    • @gregorystuby2761
      @gregorystuby2761 Год назад

      @@gaelgarciabernal2434 , none of us can ever know. You have your view, and I have mine, and we both can never be right.

  • @A.M80-n3d
    @A.M80-n3d Год назад

    God watched and he sent Novak Djokovic AMIN 🙏🇷🇸

  • @woodies5775
    @woodies5775 Год назад +3

    Graf herself has no responsibility.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад +1

      I hope you are right. It came out later Graf's father was covering up for the costs of having an affair by tax dodging. It came out when Graf became less dominant. I believe you are right but there is no way of being certain.
      After the incident it is amazing Seles was able to play tennis again. The double shock of her father dying of cancer would be enough to paralyse most people completely. The additional stress of the stabbing on her father may well have caused his death.

    • @woodies5775
      @woodies5775 Год назад +1

      @@michaeledwards2251 My word is true whether you want it or not.
      Are you saying Stefi asked the killer to stab Monica? It's an illusion.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Год назад

      @@woodies5775
      There are degrees of responsibility. Graf may have heard her father suggesting such a plan of action and dismissed it as nonsense. As far as I am aware Graf had no knowledge of her father's affair. (The father was known to have a drinking problem. )
      It would be the father who had the motive and the opportunity. He was the one who was already breaking the law to cover up his affair and it is a question of how far was he prepared to go.

    • @scotte8629
      @scotte8629 Год назад

      @@michaeledwards2251 quit making up this crap. You wouldn't know of a conversation like that. You can't make this up and act like it's "possible". The tax evasion scandal for their family. And yes there is a way to be certain, otherwise Steffi and her dad would be in jail with your conjecture.

  • @roter13
    @roter13 Год назад +2

    I mean as soon as Seles got stabbed, Steffi won 4 majors in a row. I personally think that those majors should have been voided.

    • @charcolew
      @charcolew Год назад +1

      What? Do you mean the entire tournaments should have been cancelled? Or do you think that Graf's victories should have been erased from the sport's history? On what specific grounds?

  • @americanitalianisrael4008
    @americanitalianisrael4008 Год назад +2

    ALL 3, GRAF AND SERENO AND COURT WOULD BE BELOW -WHO I THINK WOULD HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME MRS.MONICA SELES. SELES HAD 8 GRAND SLAMS AT 18 YEARS OLD. NO ONE DID THAT WHEN THEY WERE 18. NOT EVERT, NAVRATILOVA, BOTH WILLIAMS, GRAF ETC. NO ONE. SHE WAS UNSTOPPABLE. I BET SHE WOULD HAVE WON 25-30 GRAND SLAMS TOTAL, IF NOT FOR THAT HORRIFIC STAB.

  • @m.aansari4289
    @m.aansari4289 Год назад

    The attacker had cleared the path for Steffi Graf.