All hail the B2 bomber I do agree that he hasent been the same since his glory in base world, the bombs falling and those strings of his theme kicking in always instill fear in new hunters
Purely from a one-on-one fight perspective, Sunbreak Seething is my favorite. That being said, having Bazel’s invader status stripped from him in the same game he debuted in was unfortunate. I hope Bazel’s next appearance makes him a proper invader again while maintaining the changes Rise gave him.
It would be so cool if he could ambush like crimson Like it wouldn’t even tell you (no icon no music) and it’s scales would slowly drop. then you hear a roar and he immediately dive bomb you
Word Bazel = Best Bazel, at least for me. Bazel was this extremely memorable monster in world, for basically everyone. And since then i personally felt like its been a downward spiral for it. While the fight overall was quite simple, the difficulty came with the randomness of the bombs. Besides the design, seething bazel, was a bit of a disappointment, as the main thing i remember from the fight was it just charging back and forward like a rathian. During all of iceborne, the topic of missing being invaded by bazel or seething came up a decent amount of time, between my friend group. In Rise Bazel is just bad. Not only does he appear less imposing (tho that is more of a rise thing, with the camera perspective and lack of true invaders), thank to the structures bomb placement, the relative simple fight, because way easier. Seething on the other hand got a few new moves, all of them i quite liked, tho similar to bazel, felt more structured, with less and smaller explosion. The Bombrun is one of the best example, where in wordborn they felt terrifying, as the droped so many bombs, in somewhat of a line, meanwhile in risebreak, i personally think that the wider area mixed with the clear placement of the scales (literally 3 lines), makes the bombrun quite easy to dodge, as there are way more gaps in between them. tl:dr: world bazel felt like fighting a brute while dodging a minefield, meanwhile rise feels like fighting a simple monster with an arching follow up fire attack.
Happy to see my favorite monster in one of these videos! I loved this beautiful b52 since I saw it first in World. Personally, I think World's Bazelgeuse is the best version of the monster they've made as of yet, with the invading divebomb and added chaos factor with the randomness of it's scales making it a fun, hectic, and imposing fight. I personally also prefer World's theme for bazel (more grand and all), though the added intensity with the vocals in rise give it a suprising fear factor (I've heard both themes mixed into one online, and mixing both works INSANELY well).
I love all the versions, though the base Rise bazel was disappointing. I still remember getting jumpscared by bazel in the high rank anjanath quest in world, I didn't notice anything and then I got divebombed and I just fainted, I almost jumped when that happened.
The anecdote of people not liking Bazel is interesting. I think a lot of vocal World newcomers didn't like it, whereas veterans used to the concept appreciated it. That said, I also think it's undergone something of a renaissance after Rise's dogshit treatment of invaders and wyvern-riding.
just make it so bazel dies his bombing run when he enters again, his bombs drop in fixed locations and randomly too, so more chaos also make seething an invader too, but make his bombing run even more dangerous by making him do barrel rolls, dropping more bombs, though not purple (also make him less squishy so he cant just be chain knockdown, and turn purple like in iceborne where he charges it up instead) as for wyvern riding, just make it so the timer is much shorter and if you stay still for too long, you get knocked off and the monsters reduce the timer even more when they hit you oh and obviously, make it so monsters cant wyvern ride other monsters and increase the wirebug threshold needed to ride so it feels rewarding now
I find bazelguese a wonderful monster and both my second favorite world original and flying wyvern, definitely in my top 10 favorites. though I must admit I prefer the world bazel in both theme and fight, seething I’d say is really good in both games however
I remember first encountering bazelgeuse in World and had no idea what it was other than a vague description from my friend saying "that monster that always fucks up the quest". The moment bazelgeuse got to the map he carpet bombed me and I got carted.
I find it interesting how no two people pronounce his name the same way. I've heard 2 different versions from Capcom themselves I think and neither are the ones you or I chose (BAHzel Goose). I personally pronounce it BAYzull Juice. Bazel is definitely a top 5 monster overall from Gen 5 for me and had the biggest impact between having the first unique theme in the game and making his first appearance without much fanfare from the game. Just suddenly the camera pans to a new HUGE monster and the music changes. I loved that. He is actually a relatively simple monster overall in terms of moveset, in fact it's generally pretty easy to avoid most of his direct attacks, but when you consider all of his moves are designed to scatter and arm his bombs and they're the real stars of the show then he's actually VERY well designed.
While I do prefer World Bazel (favourite newcomer), I really love SB version of Seething over the IB one, it's a lot more aggressive and hard to deal with, I feel like having both regular and the variant available at MR pushed the devs into a bigger effort in this game (and likely some adjustments made to deal with wirebugs helped). Sad that invaders no longer function in this game. I once had an anomaly quest where I had to hunt both regular and seething (Idr which one was afflicted) and it was ... beautiful, explosions everywhere!
I feel so sarry for bazel, he's been getting overshadowed in the generation of his Introducing, Base world is the best Bazelgeuse, his surprise bombing attack Invader role is great, but even then he lost out on having turf wars just to make deviljho look better Then he gets a awesome variant in iceborne with seething but gets his role completely stripped from him in favour of making banbaro and fulger Invader when those 2 should have been hoarfrost exclusive, iceborne for me really had a Invader problem And then both versions along with all Invaders in general get thier role completely butchered by rise/sunbreak Let's hope Bazelgeuse gets the treatment he deserves in the series moving forward and gets his world like Invader role back as now I feel he has become one of the monsters we can and should rely on to become a regular returner for the series
Honestly, I used to hate World Bazel too, but I was very new to the series. The random bombs are a pain yeah but as I reflect on it I feel like it was part of the charm. When I first fought Seething I was somewhat nervous and dreading it, but then I realized I was actually having a really good time fighting him, and then THE BIG BLAST happened and once I heard that iconic scream, I knew I had a favorite monster. I enjoy rise Bazel but Sunbreak Seething is still my preferred fight over him, especially when afflicted. Getting the damage pops is OH SO SATISFYING but makes him a little too easy, and affliction fixes that problem completely. Afflicted seething might be my favorite Bazel hands down at the moment. When MH6 rolls around I hope Bazel once again shows up unannounced, because there's nothing more fun than an invited Party Crasher.
@@mahranramadhan Deviljho had been in every game since his first appearance in tri with RiseBreak being the exception and Rajang even sooner and in MORE games, I see no reason why Bazel would get left out.
Bazel is my favorite Monster ! I just loved the way i got totally surprised the first time he showed up in World! He blew my mind -literally- in rise however... With the wyvern ridding ut comoletely ruined the invador mechanic, and i don't really like that his bombs have a precise placement. I really like the additions they gave Seething tho
Worlds was my first MH game, and I didn't know monsters could invade your hunts. Cue me getting progressively more frustrated cause this guy kept interrupting my hunts. After you get the request to hunt him, he stops, but I would get shook every time I was in the middle of a fight, and his theme would kick in.
If you are now making evolution videos for single-generation monsters, why not also doing Frontier exclusives? Even unique monsters went through some huge transformations throughout the course of the game. From normal to HC, then to G rank, then GHC and finnaly Zenith. My recommendation would be Berukyurosu and Doragyurosu, since they have everything
I like Bazelgeuse is a big cuddly explosive pinecone. 10/10 would pet. I do kinda wish he would ambush you from time to time in Monster Hunter Rise. One of few monsters I do like fighting, also i like the theme too. (both versions)
The most annoying thing of the originl Bazel in world is that it always plants the landmine which can hardly be seen because of its size and meshing with the enviorment untill you accidently hit it and deal a great damage to yourself. Thats why they change the way in its variant Seething Bazel which bomb blews up automatically and it turns out to be a better gameplay experience. It's glad that they did notice the mistake and avoid it when introducing Bazel into MHRise where the bomb will no longer be planted for a long period to be exploded, it will blow up just after a few seconds making it more predictable.
I prefer the mhw Bazelgeuse because he is the double edged sword that can harm the hunter and the monster you're trying to hunt. Seething is the fatal popcorn maker! 😂👌
Why not throw in a breakdown of the monster armor sets and what they appear to be made for? In Bazel’s case, it seems the set is designed to make Charge Blades more potent, if you don’t mix and match the set with other things. Wanting to try Charge Blade and having a good set of armor for that made me look forward to Bazel fights and I honestly love having him turn up; I’ll let my quest target run off while I focus Bazel down if he turns up in a fight.
I actually did that for a while but couldn't figure out how to make it interesting. If you want to see for yourself it's in episodes 14-18 I believe. I'm open to revisiting the idea in the future though!
I'm one of those people who disliked Bazel in World for his inconsistency, and I actually like his Rise rendition. I like how he punishes you for spamming counters (as you normally would against any other monster in Rise). As for invasions - Yeah, invasions as a general concept got butchered in Rise. Invaders are no longer a threat, but a convenience for the hunter
If both Bazels returns in MH6, i hope base Bazel gets its World theme while Seething gets Rise theme. That or when Bazel Enrages its theme switches to Rise version.
Can you do a video about the endgame systems of 4/4U onwards (ie the Frenzied/apexes of 4 & 4U, Hypers/deviants of G & GU, Tempered/archtempered of World & Iceborne and the Apexes/afflicted/risen of Rise & Sunbreak)?
I am firmly in world bazel camp. Same for seething. I just still dont get why rise bazels bombs have almost the same blast radius as a seething bomb. Because of the shorter fuse time and similar explosion size, rise bazel is kinda more dangerous to fight than rise seething. Which is dumb. Combined with nerfing unheated hitzones, tying the heat up to rage instead of it being independent of rage, no ambushes, his cool fuse igniting breath attack being changed to 'fireball, but wider', and one of the worst rise theme remixes, normal bazel has gone from being a fun bombastic surprise to an annoying and kinda boring. Seething got better treatment in sunbreak, with his flying tail drag being great, but his head slam is hilariously easy to dodge and punish. Also its incredibly frustrating when an afflicted bazel or seething does a bombing run that makes you wait, wasting time that can lead to a burst that you probably could've stopped otherwise. Rise bazel lost most of its soul. It gets its invader status made into a joke, and even churned into the copy paste magnamalo anime protagonist turf war heap. At least he got an actually good turf war with Rajang when sunbreak came out. How the mighty have fallen.
I'm mixed on the vocals. It sounds great for Kushala, Mizutsune, Zinogre, Bazel, Teostra, Chameleos as well as originals like Magnamalo and the serpents But at the same time it sounds kind of bad for Tigrex, Rajang and Narga, but I think my issue is more than the instruments aren't impactful enough there.
@@HeavyWings okay yeah the instruments from world feels more dynamic and makes it feel like an epic hunt, though the vocals made me feel like I was in a final fantasy style battle 😝
I do legitimately have a soft spot for Bazel so I was also disappointed by Iceborne's stark lack of Bazel party crashing in G-rank. Even with the new Variant, which was built to be an even worse threat, it was really weird that the invader slots were dominated by Rajang so hard. I actually found myself really MISSING Bazel in Iceborne and, at the time, it was so hard for me to wrap my head around because he really WAS annoying in World. I do think the devs took the criticism of him to heart and ended up toning him down too much. Sunbreak Seething, though, I think is peak Bazel. He is SO exciting and hype to fight because of his ramped up speed and aggression.
I think had Seething been an invader it would have been too much. Iceborne would have had - Seething - Savage Jho - Rajang - Fulgur Anjanath (technically) - Banbaro (technically)
@@HeavyWings I hate that Fulgur and Banbaro were invaders. I have a lot of gripes about how Monsters didn't feel nearly as thoughtfully placed as they did in base World and those two are the main offenders. I really think Iceborne retroactively contradicted the design ethos OF world by being too flippant about where monsters could show up in G-rank when the original point was that each map was built FOR a roster of monsters. I don't think very many of the Subspecies managed to fit that mold.
Replaying World after a long time, I prefer the idea that the goose could wreck my shit at any time. I alway carry a full stack of dung bomb just in case
I noticed the shift only much later. I got myself Iceborne and got used to mostly just hunting and encountering my target. Then I went to Co-up with my buddy who only has the base game, to realize that this bomb-bird showed up in every hunt my friend played. To the point where he just spawns far too much to remain enjoyable. Bazelgeuse is the reason I started using Dung Pods.
World's problem is that they have three monsters on a map rather than two in the older games, so things start getting hectic. Iceborne made it worse because the new monsters introduced have movement patterns that intersect with the old monsters - Elders Recess is notorious for this.
100% prefer World regular Bazel. I live (and die) for that instant carpet bombing and the fact that usually the first dive would match the loud trumpets on the beginning of his theme.
Bazel is weird imo, the moveset that makes it a good invader has robbed it of a good fight imo, and moving away from that has allowed it to be better with its Rise incarnation and especially Seething imo. Maybe if they could give it an ai switch where it prioritizes bomb placing moves when there's another monster in the zone and a more complex moveset when it's just a hunter would make it work better imo.
As my favorite monster is bazel, I have a bit of a mixed opinion of how he has been handled since his introduction. On one hand some of the changes I think were needed such as the scales falling in fixed positions, on the other hand him not divebombing into the middle of fights is just down right criminal. I would have to say my favorite version is his original world version, just due to the whole invading factor as much as I prefer seething in every other regard. Also I really don't like rise's bazel theme, it feels less punchy than the world version. I also don't like most of rise's themes just because of the overuse of vocals as vocals in monster themes are usually reserved for final bosses/black dragons, feels wrong to hear vocals for most monsters.
Yeah, Bazel getting heavily shafted in his role as an invader will always be disappointing to me. Rise could've easily maintained it had he kept the randomly dropped bombs alongside the ones he drops more "neatly" with his attacks and, of course, his iconic tenancy of barging into your hunts with a bang. Alas, twas not meant to be I suppose. Maybe MH6 will bring the 'geuse back to his former glory.
Base World Bazelgeuse is the only version anyone actually likes, so I have no idea why Capcom keeps trying to suck everything unique and memorable about the monster out. There is no point to Bazelgeuse if he’s just another big flashy boss fight. We have a million of those. It’s the equivalent of bringing back Deviljho and having him only appear in a single area.
i prefer base bazel over seething, i feel like he has NEVER been a threat when seething, all his moves are super predictable and he topples every 3 seconds, oh and the sunbreak head smash move... the hell is that? my hunter even shouts like its a super move, it's just a lame head but that takes for ever to happen and is so easy to punish
I massively prefer Seething in Iceborne, and by extension Bazel in rise/sunbreak. I don't think novelty particularly works in a game like monster hunter where you do the same thing over and over again, so invaders have never been more than a 20 second dung bomb distraction/annoyance since the exact same surprise doesn't work more than once, especially against the hundereds of hours these games are typically played for. I also find it weird how vocal people seem to be against Rise's bazel theme, I think its about as good as it was in world, and in general I'm someone who doesn't think the vocals are particularly well implemented in rise's remixed songs.
All hail the B2 bomber
I do agree that he hasent been the same since his glory in base world, the bombs falling and those strings of his theme kicking in always instill fear in new hunters
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Purely from a one-on-one fight perspective, Sunbreak Seething is my favorite. That being said, having Bazel’s invader status stripped from him in the same game he debuted in was unfortunate. I hope Bazel’s next appearance makes him a proper invader again while maintaining the changes Rise gave him.
Note that Bazelgeuse was not officially announced when released in Mh Rise, it was a surprise for people to find!
As he always does
World also didn't announce Bazel so it's a surprise when you suddenly got bombed
it's even better fit his theme as an invader that no one expect
SunBreak Seething is the best version of the Bazel fight but Base World's chaotic invader is still the most fun version of him
I prefer how iceborne seething fights. Tons of scales all over but the quick bombing run with the flying scale throw would make it perfect
I just binge watched all of your other evolution videos. I'm surprised to see how recently this video was released
It would be so cool if he could ambush like crimson
Like it wouldn’t even tell you (no icon no music) and it’s scales would slowly drop. then you hear a roar and he immediately dive bomb you
You can’t take the music away tho, that the best part!! It’s like and aerial Jaws theme
I hope for his next appearance they bring back his carpet bombing antics again. It's so chaotic in the best way possible
Word Bazel = Best Bazel, at least for me.
Bazel was this extremely memorable monster in world, for basically everyone. And since then i personally felt like its been a downward spiral for it. While the fight overall was quite simple, the difficulty came with the randomness of the bombs.
Besides the design, seething bazel, was a bit of a disappointment, as the main thing i remember from the fight was it just charging back and forward like a rathian. During all of iceborne, the topic of missing being invaded by bazel or seething came up a decent amount of time, between my friend group.
In Rise Bazel is just bad. Not only does he appear less imposing (tho that is more of a rise thing, with the camera perspective and lack of true invaders), thank to the structures bomb placement, the relative simple fight, because way easier. Seething on the other hand got a few new moves, all of them i quite liked, tho similar to bazel, felt more structured, with less and smaller explosion.
The Bombrun is one of the best example, where in wordborn they felt terrifying, as the droped so many bombs, in somewhat of a line, meanwhile in risebreak, i personally think that the wider area mixed with the clear placement of the scales (literally 3 lines), makes the bombrun quite easy to dodge, as there are way more gaps in between them.
tl:dr: world bazel felt like fighting a brute while dodging a minefield, meanwhile rise feels like fighting a simple monster with an arching follow up fire attack.
Happy to see my favorite monster in one of these videos! I loved this beautiful b52 since I saw it first in World.
Personally, I think World's Bazelgeuse is the best version of the monster they've made as of yet, with the invading divebomb and added chaos factor with the randomness of it's scales making it a fun, hectic, and imposing fight. I personally also prefer World's theme for bazel (more grand and all), though the added intensity with the vocals in rise give it a suprising fear factor (I've heard both themes mixed into one online, and mixing both works INSANELY well).
I love all the versions, though the base Rise bazel was disappointing. I still remember getting jumpscared by bazel in the high rank anjanath quest in world, I didn't notice anything and then I got divebombed and I just fainted, I almost jumped when that happened.
Bazelgeuse is a cool and my favourite monster and deviljho, rajang, rathalos, espinas.
The anecdote of people not liking Bazel is interesting. I think a lot of vocal World newcomers didn't like it, whereas veterans used to the concept appreciated it. That said, I also think it's undergone something of a renaissance after Rise's dogshit treatment of invaders and wyvern-riding.
just make it so bazel dies his bombing run when he enters again, his bombs drop in fixed locations and randomly too, so more chaos
also make seething an invader too, but make his bombing run even more dangerous by making him do barrel rolls, dropping more bombs, though not purple
(also make him less squishy so he cant just be chain knockdown, and turn purple like in iceborne where he charges it up instead)
as for wyvern riding, just make it so the timer is much shorter and if you stay still for too long, you get knocked off and the monsters reduce the timer even more when they hit you
oh and obviously, make it so monsters cant wyvern ride other monsters and increase the wirebug threshold needed to ride so it feels rewarding now
I find bazelguese a wonderful monster and both my second favorite world original and flying wyvern, definitely in my top 10 favorites. though I must admit I prefer the world bazel in both theme and fight, seething I’d say is really good in both games however
I would be really upset if they didn't bring him back into Monster Hunter 6. He is my favorite monster/invader in the whole franchise.
I remember first encountering bazelgeuse in World and had no idea what it was other than a vague description from my friend saying "that monster that always fucks up the quest". The moment bazelgeuse got to the map he carpet bombed me and I got carted.
I was unlucky enough to encounter both him and Jho first time together.
I find it interesting how no two people pronounce his name the same way. I've heard 2 different versions from Capcom themselves I think and neither are the ones you or I chose (BAHzel Goose). I personally pronounce it BAYzull Juice.
Bazel is definitely a top 5 monster overall from Gen 5 for me and had the biggest impact between having the first unique theme in the game and making his first appearance without much fanfare from the game. Just suddenly the camera pans to a new HUGE monster and the music changes. I loved that. He is actually a relatively simple monster overall in terms of moveset, in fact it's generally pretty easy to avoid most of his direct attacks, but when you consider all of his moves are designed to scatter and arm his bombs and they're the real stars of the show then he's actually VERY well designed.
The tigrex debate all over again
I know there's an official pronunciation by Navirou in Stories 2 but I'm simply choosing to ignore it.
I love bazelgeuse its just so satisfying to bonk him on the head especially seething
MY BOI!!
It was pretty funny to see HR Bazelgeuse V-line for your position in world
While I do prefer World Bazel (favourite newcomer), I really love SB version of Seething over the IB one, it's a lot more aggressive and hard to deal with, I feel like having both regular and the variant available at MR pushed the devs into a bigger effort in this game (and likely some adjustments made to deal with wirebugs helped). Sad that invaders no longer function in this game.
I once had an anomaly quest where I had to hunt both regular and seething (Idr which one was afflicted) and it was ... beautiful, explosions everywhere!
I think as an invader the newer Bazels are inferior, but they're still really good fights.
I loved og bazel. Would get so excited when he'd join in on a fight. I didn't even think of him as an enemy, that was my day 1 brother.
I feel so sarry for bazel, he's been getting overshadowed in the generation of his Introducing,
Base world is the best Bazelgeuse, his surprise bombing attack Invader role is great, but even then he lost out on having turf wars just to make deviljho look better
Then he gets a awesome variant in iceborne with seething but gets his role completely stripped from him in favour of making banbaro and fulger Invader when those 2 should have been hoarfrost exclusive, iceborne for me really had a Invader problem
And then both versions along with all Invaders in general get thier role completely butchered by rise/sunbreak
Let's hope Bazelgeuse gets the treatment he deserves in the series moving forward and gets his world like Invader role back as now I feel he has become one of the monsters we can and should rely on to become a regular returner for the series
Honestly, I used to hate World Bazel too, but I was very new to the series. The random bombs are a pain yeah but as I reflect on it I feel like it was part of the charm. When I first fought Seething I was somewhat nervous and dreading it, but then I realized I was actually having a really good time fighting him, and then THE BIG BLAST happened and once I heard that iconic scream, I knew I had a favorite monster. I enjoy rise Bazel but Sunbreak Seething is still my preferred fight over him, especially when afflicted. Getting the damage pops is OH SO SATISFYING but makes him a little too easy, and affliction fixes that problem completely. Afflicted seething might be my favorite Bazel hands down at the moment.
When MH6 rolls around I hope Bazel once again shows up unannounced, because there's nothing more fun than an invited Party Crasher.
it's pretty unlikely for him to appear again for gen 6, but if he does i hope they also bringing back the base world bazel bullshitery lol.
@@mahranramadhan Deviljho had been in every game since his first appearance in tri with RiseBreak being the exception and Rajang even sooner and in MORE games, I see no reason why Bazel would get left out.
Bazel is my favorite Monster ! I just loved the way i got totally surprised the first time he showed up in World! He blew my mind -literally- in rise however... With the wyvern ridding ut comoletely ruined the invador mechanic, and i don't really like that his bombs have a precise placement. I really like the additions they gave Seething tho
Genuinely my favorite fifth gen monster, absolutely love this bomber boy
Worlds was my first MH game, and I didn't know monsters could invade your hunts. Cue me getting progressively more frustrated cause this guy kept interrupting my hunts. After you get the request to hunt him, he stops, but I would get shook every time I was in the middle of a fight, and his theme would kick in.
If you are now making evolution videos for single-generation monsters, why not also doing Frontier exclusives? Even unique monsters went through some huge transformations throughout the course of the game. From normal to HC, then to G rank, then GHC and finnaly Zenith. My recommendation would be Berukyurosu and Doragyurosu, since they have everything
I haven't beaten Frontier (HR4) and am still massively unfamiliar with the game. Maybe one day when I've beaten it but until then, probably not.
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I like Bazelgeuse is a big cuddly explosive pinecone. 10/10 would pet.
I do kinda wish he would ambush you from time to time in Monster Hunter Rise. One of few monsters I do like fighting, also i like the theme too. (both versions)
The most annoying thing of the originl Bazel in world is that it always plants the landmine which can hardly be seen because of its size and meshing with the enviorment untill you accidently hit it and deal a great damage to yourself. Thats why they change the way in its variant Seething Bazel which bomb blews up automatically and it turns out to be a better gameplay experience. It's glad that they did notice the mistake and avoid it when introducing Bazel into MHRise where the bomb will no longer be planted for a long period to be exploded, it will blow up just after a few seconds making it more predictable.
I prefer the mhw Bazelgeuse because he is the double edged sword that can harm the hunter and the monster you're trying to hunt.
Seething is the fatal popcorn maker! 😂👌
I really hope this goofy bastard comes back in Wilds. A clash with him would be super cool
This bastard make me feel more like a WW2 soldier than any Shooter
Why not throw in a breakdown of the monster armor sets and what they appear to be made for? In Bazel’s case, it seems the set is designed to make Charge Blades more potent, if you don’t mix and match the set with other things. Wanting to try Charge Blade and having a good set of armor for that made me look forward to Bazel fights and I honestly love having him turn up; I’ll let my quest target run off while I focus Bazel down if he turns up in a fight.
I actually did that for a while but couldn't figure out how to make it interesting. If you want to see for yourself it's in episodes 14-18 I believe.
I'm open to revisiting the idea in the future though!
I'm one of those people who disliked Bazel in World for his inconsistency, and I actually like his Rise rendition. I like how he punishes you for spamming counters (as you normally would against any other monster in Rise). As for invasions - Yeah, invasions as a general concept got butchered in Rise. Invaders are no longer a threat, but a convenience for the hunter
I'm not entirely sure invasions were a massive threat if you had dung bombs.
Me when I hear the trumpets of the B52 bomber bird: OH NO AAAHHH
If both Bazels returns in MH6, i hope base Bazel gets its World theme while Seething gets Rise theme.
That or when Bazel Enrages its theme switches to Rise version.
i love the world version becouse its just SO MUTCH CHAOS!
Bru every time i hunt bazelgeuse i think im in WW2.and when seething makes his Special move Its a freaking Kamikaze with Cluster bombs
this monster really like dung he always come back for more
Bazelgeuse favorite game :
Bombardement!
You totally missed seethings special anomaly explosion that few monsters have when afflicted
Can you do a video about the endgame systems of 4/4U onwards (ie the Frenzied/apexes of 4 & 4U, Hypers/deviants of G & GU, Tempered/archtempered of World & Iceborne and the Apexes/afflicted/risen of Rise & Sunbreak)?
I've been wanting to do that for ages. Problem is it would take so long, arguably would be the biggest thing I've ever made.
I am firmly in world bazel camp. Same for seething.
I just still dont get why rise bazels bombs have almost the same blast radius as a seething bomb. Because of the shorter fuse time and similar explosion size, rise bazel is kinda more dangerous to fight than rise seething. Which is dumb. Combined with nerfing unheated hitzones, tying the heat up to rage instead of it being independent of rage, no ambushes, his cool fuse igniting breath attack being changed to 'fireball, but wider', and one of the worst rise theme remixes, normal bazel has gone from being a fun bombastic surprise to an annoying and kinda boring.
Seething got better treatment in sunbreak, with his flying tail drag being great, but his head slam is hilariously easy to dodge and punish. Also its incredibly frustrating when an afflicted bazel or seething does a bombing run that makes you wait, wasting time that can lead to a burst that you probably could've stopped otherwise.
Rise bazel lost most of its soul. It gets its invader status made into a joke, and even churned into the copy paste magnamalo anime protagonist turf war heap. At least he got an actually good turf war with Rajang when sunbreak came out.
How the mighty have fallen.
I loved the Rise version its theme and was greatly disappointed that the new Sunbreak monsters didn't get the vocal treatment
I'm mixed on the vocals.
It sounds great for Kushala, Mizutsune, Zinogre, Bazel, Teostra, Chameleos as well as originals like Magnamalo and the serpents
But at the same time it sounds kind of bad for Tigrex, Rajang and Narga, but I think my issue is more than the instruments aren't impactful enough there.
@@HeavyWings okay yeah the instruments from world feels more dynamic and makes it feel like an epic hunt, though the vocals made me feel like I was in a final fantasy style battle 😝
My favorite is sunbreak seething he is very fun. I think he looks way cooler and he is very intense
Yeah he's a good time. Fighting him anywhere is cool too.
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I think Bazel was the best in base world. yes he wasn't fun to hunt but this is the only game where he truly felt like his nickname: "party crasher"
I do legitimately have a soft spot for Bazel so I was also disappointed by Iceborne's stark lack of Bazel party crashing in G-rank. Even with the new Variant, which was built to be an even worse threat, it was really weird that the invader slots were dominated by Rajang so hard. I actually found myself really MISSING Bazel in Iceborne and, at the time, it was so hard for me to wrap my head around because he really WAS annoying in World. I do think the devs took the criticism of him to heart and ended up toning him down too much. Sunbreak Seething, though, I think is peak Bazel. He is SO exciting and hype to fight because of his ramped up speed and aggression.
I think had Seething been an invader it would have been too much. Iceborne would have had
- Seething
- Savage Jho
- Rajang
- Fulgur Anjanath (technically)
- Banbaro (technically)
@@HeavyWings I hate that Fulgur and Banbaro were invaders. I have a lot of gripes about how Monsters didn't feel nearly as thoughtfully placed as they did in base World and those two are the main offenders. I really think Iceborne retroactively contradicted the design ethos OF world by being too flippant about where monsters could show up in G-rank when the original point was that each map was built FOR a roster of monsters. I don't think very many of the Subspecies managed to fit that mold.
Replaying World after a long time, I prefer the idea that the goose could wreck my shit at any time. I alway carry a full stack of dung bomb just in case
I noticed the shift only much later.
I got myself Iceborne and got used to mostly just hunting and encountering my target.
Then I went to Co-up with my buddy who only has the base game, to realize that this bomb-bird showed up in every hunt my friend played.
To the point where he just spawns far too much to remain enjoyable.
Bazelgeuse is the reason I started using Dung Pods.
World's problem is that they have three monsters on a map rather than two in the older games, so things start getting hectic.
Iceborne made it worse because the new monsters introduced have movement patterns that intersect with the old monsters - Elders Recess is notorious for this.
100% prefer World regular Bazel. I live (and die) for that instant carpet bombing and the fact that usually the first dive would match the loud trumpets on the beginning of his theme.
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Bazel is weird imo, the moveset that makes it a good invader has robbed it of a good fight imo, and moving away from that has allowed it to be better with its Rise incarnation and especially Seething imo. Maybe if they could give it an ai switch where it prioritizes bomb placing moves when there's another monster in the zone and a more complex moveset when it's just a hunter would make it work better imo.
As my favorite monster is bazel, I have a bit of a mixed opinion of how he has been handled since his introduction. On one hand some of the changes I think were needed such as the scales falling in fixed positions, on the other hand him not divebombing into the middle of fights is just down right criminal. I would have to say my favorite version is his original world version, just due to the whole invading factor as much as I prefer seething in every other regard. Also I really don't like rise's bazel theme, it feels less punchy than the world version. I also don't like most of rise's themes just because of the overuse of vocals as vocals in monster themes are usually reserved for final bosses/black dragons, feels wrong to hear vocals for most monsters.
Yeah, Bazel getting heavily shafted in his role as an invader will always be disappointing to me. Rise could've easily maintained it had he kept the randomly dropped bombs alongside the ones he drops more "neatly" with his attacks and, of course, his iconic tenancy of barging into your hunts with a bang. Alas, twas not meant to be I suppose.
Maybe MH6 will bring the 'geuse back to his former glory.
Base World Bazelgeuse is the only version anyone actually likes, so I have no idea why Capcom keeps trying to suck everything unique and memorable about the monster out.
There is no point to Bazelgeuse if he’s just another big flashy boss fight. We have a million of those. It’s the equivalent of bringing back Deviljho and having him only appear in a single area.
He do annoys me, but i like it that he annoys me lol
in terms of theme, world bazel is better for me
i prefer base bazel over seething, i feel like he has NEVER been a threat when seething, all his moves are super predictable and he topples every 3 seconds, oh and the sunbreak head smash move... the hell is that? my hunter even shouts like its a super move, it's just a lame head but that takes for ever to happen and is so easy to punish
Seethings purple bombs are just scary to me lol. Lots of alarm bells ringing whenever one lands next to me.
@@HeavyWings agreed, plus in iceborne I feel like they hit harder, but he's just too easy to topple to ever be a threat to me
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I massively prefer Seething in Iceborne, and by extension Bazel in rise/sunbreak. I don't think novelty particularly works in a game like monster hunter where you do the same thing over and over again, so invaders have never been more than a 20 second dung bomb distraction/annoyance since the exact same surprise doesn't work more than once, especially against the hundereds of hours these games are typically played for.
I also find it weird how vocal people seem to be against Rise's bazel theme, I think its about as good as it was in world, and in general I'm someone who doesn't think the vocals are particularly well implemented in rise's remixed songs.
I've wanted to make an invader video like that for a while now (have a script and everything) because yeah it's true, you just dung them and wait.
i hate fighting this guy