In our choir we just had soprano, mezzo soprano and alto. The first like 3 years i was part of the mezzo but because soprano was lacking of members at that time i was forced into the soprano. Which were much higher than mezzo so i struggled rlly hard. Lmao
Hey there! I have a voice, but I also have HORRIBLE stage fright.. i loose my self in singing and it’s my escape for things! I’m just scared of singing informing of people. Even the qior, I feel like I’ll be made fun of any tips?
Oh no! I think we all have that stage fright to a certain extent, even seasoned professional performers. I really turned a corner when I was able to reimagine the nervous energy as being excitement rather than fear. A lot of that comes with time and putting yourself out there. Is there a low pressure performance opportunity available to you? - Like maybe in an ensemble (choir) for a church, maybe a community theater show that has need of extras or a chorus? If you're really looking to change the mindset, some low pressure performance opportunities could be just the thing.
Sweet! A range test for students like we showed in this video first is probably the best method as a first round. If anyone is on the fence between voice parts after that, you could then place them based on the quality of the voice (example: heavy vs light) in a higher or lower voice part. Best of luck!
On a second read of the comment, I realize I may have answered a different question. How to teach a new member to FIT their voice part? Well, I'd make sure they were in the right one, first. They should be a natural fit if it's the right one. After that, it really is just a feeling that you're after I guess, that the student feels like they belong to that part. I guess if I had a student struggling to feel like they really were an alto or soprano, whatever the part, I might make sure to be intentional about the warmup process at the beginning of choir. Maybe focus for a months worth of warmups on fun rounds to build a stronger team environment within sections. Then during the rehearsal, I might make a point to remind students that there is still a lot of variability within parts, like not all altos are going to sound the same. I might reminder them that the benefit of the choir is when you are weak on a note, there is someone who is strong that can support you. I'd remind them that every note isn't going to be super comfortable to sing, but to make their best effort, and be aware of the moments when they are being asked to be strong for someone else. Hope that helps, and best of luck!
Hi! My range can go from A2 to E4 comfortably My full range can go up to the Ab4 (A5 Falsetto) I have been told I am a baritone in musical theatre, What voice part will I be in a chorus my voice is not as heavy as other baritones but it is not as flexible as tenors, Thank you! (note I had little training and I am 15
Yeah, just looking at the pitches I'd say that's right in that solid baritone/low tenor 2 range. Definitely not Bass, definitely not a high tenor, although it's a nice falsetto range. I'd lean toward baritone if I was going to try and classify just based on the raw pitches, but honestly you'll know better in a few years which direction your voice really leans. I was probably 23 before my voice really settled, so you've got time. I imagine you'll either be able to sing something closer to the low F or high G with your full voice before long, and that direction that you voice lends itself to will be your best indication. Baritone voice is often notated B1 (first Bass) for chorus parts, but I'm sure you already knew that. Also, remember these chorus classifications are really broad and can encompass many voice types. Sopranos are probably the easiest examples to use in understanding this concept, as I'm sure you've heard some really high Sopranos sing really impactful and loud (think Gospel) and some sing light and agile (think Renaissance era). Same is true for all voice parts. Hope that's helpful
Honestly you could go either way. It might not hurt to try both or be a floater in choir. Directors often like having a floater that can do either depending on the song, and it's pretty fun to jump around sometimes.
My comfortable chest range from day to day is C#2 to F4ish. My lowest ever chest note is Ab1 and my highest ever falsetto is D6. I'm a 15 year old guy, so what would I be?
The F4 is what signals to me you'd do well as like a Tenor 2 in a school choir. Most tenor rep won't go beyond F4, while many bass or baritone rep will consistently tap Ab. Just as a practical matter, I'd place you T2, and I think you'd do well. Based on the tambre of your voice, if you were able to extend your low register to the low Bb or C, you'd probably be a strong Bass, but I'd like to make sure your low register was substance and not just vocal fry. Appreciate you, and appreciate you reaching out
Yeah, if that's the stronger range than your high range I'm going to change my answer. Honestly, you have a wide enough range where you could do anything, but you'll be most comfortable in that Baritone zone if the low notes are super comfortable. Thanks for the clarification, low Baritone FTW!
I'm a girl, and my range is ~G3 - ~B5. I've sung in a three-part treble choir, in all three parts, but I feel most at home as a soprano 2 or alto. However, I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure out my "true" voice type, whether choral or operatic (is that a weird thing to obsess over?). Especially because all of my choir directors have had different opinions. I know that my voice will change as I get older, but I'd still like to have an idea of what type it is. I've been told that my voice has a warm and smooth tone on low and middle notes and a clear (but not bright or "pingy") tone on high notes. I kind of sound like a younger (and not as cool) Veronica Swift. (Listen to the song Social Call!) Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Not a weird thing to obsess over, not at all! Is that all "full voice," that range? It's pretty normal for sopranos to feel more at home singing alto or sop2, sometimes only because it's in their middle range and they don't have to utilize the limits of their range. Even within sections, there are sub-types. There are high sopranos that have warmer voices and some that have more light voices. I'll go listen to the song you mentioned
@@EnHymn Yeah it's all full voice! You make a good point that I may feel more comfortable in sop 2 because it doesn't have the extremes of my range. And it's true that there are sub-types, I guess I just don't know much about them. I always thought that nearly all sopranos have bright and flexible voices
That's the textbook range for what we might call a Contralto voice. That's the lowest female voice part. It's pretty similar to the adult high tenor range, so you likely would be able to cover pretty much any of their parts in addition to the alto parts. Super cool!
Love it! So, because it doesn't perfectly conform to the prescriptive ranges, I'd need some extra information. For example, are there any gaps in your range? - Like do some notes, especially as you go C4 to C6, that two octave span, are there notes that aren't speaking. Are the low notes real notes? - Like are they true, full toned notes, or is there some kind of forceful production that's needing to be used in order to make them work (vocal fry). Where do your voice shifts ("passages") happen? - Where does the quality of the voice shift, like in tone or strength? Answering these questions will likely narrow the range you've listed, which is okay, because it will give you a better understanding of your natural instrument. If it didn't narrow the range, like let's say the quality of your voice is the same from B2 to G6, then it's still good information to have. My gut leans toward Soprano with an extended lower register, but I'd need more info.
@@EnHymn Yeah, I noticed that G5 and B5 were 𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘺 off. (never been good at hitting high Gs) As for the lower notes, I could hit B2-E4 without any vocal fry. I'll go with B2-G5 for now. Thanks for your help! 🥰🥰🥰
Hello, what is my range if i can go from a Gb3 to a chesty Eb5, a mixed F#5 and with head voice/falsetto i think a Ab6 Im a 11 old boy if that interfears in my range And if im a mezzo, In a chorus would i be with the sopranos or the altos? Sorry for my english
No, your English is fine, not something you should be embarrassed about. Yeah, being a boy Soprano is pretty cool. The voice will change pretty soon, and you might not have all those strong high notes forever. Enjoy the range! You'll need to retest your voice at least every year until it settles a little more, then you should have a more permanent classification to work with. The problem with the changing voice is that you might be a Soprano in the choir today, but an Alto tomorrow, and a Baritone next month. Just keep track of your range progress and go where it works best that month (lol). I'd put you with the Sopranos for most Middle School rep right now for the color, I'm sure your falsetto would add something to the section sound. But as soon as you started losing the 6 octave, I'd consider moving to another section, maybe Tenor. Thanks for reaching out!
I subscribed to ya Thanks, but for now do you think im a mezzo? Edit 1: i made the test again as u told me to, and now i can go from a F3 to a D7 Edit 2: thanks for saying that about my english im from brazil and now i live in germany so its really hard for me to learn thank you very much i love ur work
Wow! Interesting how it changed a little, even in such a short amount of time. Some people work ages to get one more note higher or lower for their range. For now, most Mezzo rep should be good, but just know that it will likely change pretty soon. Keep retesting and seeing what feels the most comfortable. Thanks for the sub, and let me know if I can help with anything
Yeah, of course! Low altos are a great asset, it's nice to be someone who can do both, you're a conductor's best friend because if the tenor part is too high or the alto part is super low, often someone like you is the only one who can do the part right. Great question.
It's hard to tell without hearing it myself, but my assumption is you have a Bass voice with an extended upper register or a really strong head voice. Where's your break, usually?
Frankly Worship you can just find me after church, man! There are some apps you can download on your phone also, like piano or pitch apps. Should be pretty easy to find one you like!
Unchanged men's voices are often labeled as being Soprano. It's fairly rare for men who have undergone puberty to retain that voice range, but not impossible I suppose. There's a voice type called "countertenor" that is pretty close to what we would categorize "soprano," but it's usually performed by a baritone male voice in (strong) falsetto. Good question.
Good point, San. So far as I know, the last of the castrati was a man named Alessandro Moreschi who died in the early 1900's. The reason I remember this is that he is also the only known recorded castrato singer, right at the beginning of recording technology around 1902 or so. You could probably look him up on YT and listen, I'm sure someone has uploaded the audio somewhere. The practice has been outlawed since before 1900 in Europe and elsewhere, so it's been practically 100 years since we've seen a classical singer with that voice type. Interesting piece of history, though. Thanks for the comment!
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En Hymn tenor
think im bass, you tell me
Sopranos are the best!
Soprano, alto. Kind of like what you were talking about where you get put in whatever part needs the most help, THAT IS ME.
Yes!
In our choir we just had soprano, mezzo soprano and alto. The first like 3 years i was part of the mezzo but because soprano was lacking of members at that time i was forced into the soprano. Which were much higher than mezzo so i struggled rlly hard. Lmao
Nice! Yeah, in a treble choir like that, the voice parts can cover a wide range, especially the Sopranos! Good memories, I'm sure
You’re such a good teacher! Everything makes sense to me. Very clear and straightforward! Thank you!
Thank you so much, that's very kind of you to say and encouraging. Glad it was helpful. Thank you!
Thank you. I especially enjoyed your advice at the last minute or so.
Glad it could be useful to you today, appreciate the encouragement
Very helpful, practical and informative. Thank you for this🙏
Glad it was useful to you! Thank you for the encouragement 🙏
Excellent coverage of all the vocal parts. 👍🏼😎
Todd Reiff do you know what voice part you are?
Great thank you for the video very helpful 🎉
I learn a lot today, thank you
I’m happy for you, Ben! It’s a good day when we get to learn something new!
Hey there! I have a voice, but I also have HORRIBLE stage fright.. i loose my self in singing and it’s my escape for things! I’m just scared of singing informing of people. Even the qior, I feel like I’ll be made fun of any tips?
Oh no! I think we all have that stage fright to a certain extent, even seasoned professional performers. I really turned a corner when I was able to reimagine the nervous energy as being excitement rather than fear. A lot of that comes with time and putting yourself out there.
Is there a low pressure performance opportunity available to you? - Like maybe in an ensemble (choir) for a church, maybe a community theater show that has need of extras or a chorus? If you're really looking to change the mindset, some low pressure performance opportunities could be just the thing.
What's your voice part?
I always wondered how you know what part to give people more efficiently.
Awesome, hopefully this was helpful. Appreciate you
Great video and info. Thanks!
Hey, Goodmorning! Happy it was helpful, blessings!
I'm a choir director and i want to know how to teach a new member to fit his or her voice parts
Sweet! A range test for students like we showed in this video first is probably the best method as a first round. If anyone is on the fence between voice parts after that, you could then place them based on the quality of the voice (example: heavy vs light) in a higher or lower voice part. Best of luck!
On a second read of the comment, I realize I may have answered a different question.
How to teach a new member to FIT their voice part? Well, I'd make sure they were in the right one, first. They should be a natural fit if it's the right one. After that, it really is just a feeling that you're after I guess, that the student feels like they belong to that part.
I guess if I had a student struggling to feel like they really were an alto or soprano, whatever the part, I might make sure to be intentional about the warmup process at the beginning of choir. Maybe focus for a months worth of warmups on fun rounds to build a stronger team environment within sections.
Then during the rehearsal, I might make a point to remind students that there is still a lot of variability within parts, like not all altos are going to sound the same. I might reminder them that the benefit of the choir is when you are weak on a note, there is someone who is strong that can support you. I'd remind them that every note isn't going to be super comfortable to sing, but to make their best effort, and be aware of the moments when they are being asked to be strong for someone else.
Hope that helps, and best of luck!
Great and simple video! Thanks!
You are SO welcome!
Would you be interested in doing an episode on music and mental health?
I think it would be great if you could.
I don't see why not!? I can even say "by request"... Haha
My range is roughly A3 - F5. Would my part be Alto? And then would I also be a Mezzo Soprano?
Is that all chest voice? Looks pretty close to the Mezzo range
Hi! My range can go from A2 to E4 comfortably My full range can go up to the Ab4 (A5 Falsetto) I have been told I am a baritone in musical theatre, What voice part will I be in a chorus my voice is not as heavy as other baritones but it is not as flexible as tenors, Thank you! (note I had little training and I am 15
Yeah, just looking at the pitches I'd say that's right in that solid baritone/low tenor 2 range. Definitely not Bass, definitely not a high tenor, although it's a nice falsetto range. I'd lean toward baritone if I was going to try and classify just based on the raw pitches, but honestly you'll know better in a few years which direction your voice really leans. I was probably 23 before my voice really settled, so you've got time. I imagine you'll either be able to sing something closer to the low F or high G with your full voice before long, and that direction that you voice lends itself to will be your best indication.
Baritone voice is often notated B1 (first Bass) for chorus parts, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Also, remember these chorus classifications are really broad and can encompass many voice types. Sopranos are probably the easiest examples to use in understanding this concept, as I'm sure you've heard some really high Sopranos sing really impactful and loud (think Gospel) and some sing light and agile (think Renaissance era). Same is true for all voice parts.
Hope that's helpful
Honestly you could go either way. It might not hurt to try both or be a floater in choir. Directors often like having a floater that can do either depending on the song, and it's pretty fun to jump around sometimes.
@@EnHymn Thank you for the advice! Great Channel btw
Thanks, Chris. Appreciate it a lot
At your age you probably don't have a settled range. Take your time, and enjoy singing.
My comfortable chest range from day to day is C#2 to F4ish. My lowest ever chest note is Ab1 and my highest ever falsetto is D6. I'm a 15 year old guy, so what would I be?
The F4 is what signals to me you'd do well as like a Tenor 2 in a school choir. Most tenor rep won't go beyond F4, while many bass or baritone rep will consistently tap Ab. Just as a practical matter, I'd place you T2, and I think you'd do well. Based on the tambre of your voice, if you were able to extend your low register to the low Bb or C, you'd probably be a strong Bass, but I'd like to make sure your low register was substance and not just vocal fry. Appreciate you, and appreciate you reaching out
How strong is that lower register for you? C#2 to A2?
@@EnHymn c#2 to a2 is super comfortable. I think I may be a low baritone
Yeah, if that's the stronger range than your high range I'm going to change my answer. Honestly, you have a wide enough range where you could do anything, but you'll be most comfortable in that Baritone zone if the low notes are super comfortable. Thanks for the clarification, low Baritone FTW!
Appreciate you, and keep on singing!
I'm a girl, and my range is ~G3 - ~B5. I've sung in a three-part treble choir, in all three parts, but I feel most at home as a soprano 2 or alto. However, I've been driving myself crazy trying to figure out my "true" voice type, whether choral or operatic (is that a weird thing to obsess over?). Especially because all of my choir directors have had different opinions.
I know that my voice will change as I get older, but I'd still like to have an idea of what type it is. I've been told that my voice has a warm and smooth tone on low and middle notes and a clear (but not bright or "pingy") tone on high notes. I kind of sound like a younger (and not as cool) Veronica Swift. (Listen to the song Social Call!) Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Not a weird thing to obsess over, not at all!
Is that all "full voice," that range? It's pretty normal for sopranos to feel more at home singing alto or sop2, sometimes only because it's in their middle range and they don't have to utilize the limits of their range.
Even within sections, there are sub-types. There are high sopranos that have warmer voices and some that have more light voices. I'll go listen to the song you mentioned
@@EnHymn Yeah it's all full voice! You make a good point that I may feel more comfortable in sop 2 because it doesn't have the extremes of my range. And it's true that there are sub-types, I guess I just don't know much about them. I always thought that nearly all sopranos have bright and flexible voices
Hello there im a 15 year old girl and i discovered from an app that i go from a e3 to g5 what does that mean?
That's the textbook range for what we might call a Contralto voice. That's the lowest female voice part. It's pretty similar to the adult high tenor range, so you likely would be able to cover pretty much any of their parts in addition to the alto parts. Super cool!
@@EnHymn Thank you so much for telling me this! Thank you!
I can go D3 to C6 (including head voice/falsetto) what am I?
About where does the falsetto kick in?
@@EnHymn B5. Anything past C6 just cuts off sound completely.
26_iman weee he means like about what nite do you start using your flasetto
I'm just commenting bcs I want to be the 100th comment :D heyoo
Heyoo! Thanks for being awesome!
What voice range am I if I can go from G6 to B2 if I'm in the feminine voice ranges?
Love it! So, because it doesn't perfectly conform to the prescriptive ranges, I'd need some extra information.
For example, are there any gaps in your range? - Like do some notes, especially as you go C4 to C6, that two octave span, are there notes that aren't speaking.
Are the low notes real notes? - Like are they true, full toned notes, or is there some kind of forceful production that's needing to be used in order to make them work (vocal fry).
Where do your voice shifts ("passages") happen? - Where does the quality of the voice shift, like in tone or strength?
Answering these questions will likely narrow the range you've listed, which is okay, because it will give you a better understanding of your natural instrument. If it didn't narrow the range, like let's say the quality of your voice is the same from B2 to G6, then it's still good information to have.
My gut leans toward Soprano with an extended lower register, but I'd need more info.
@@EnHymn Yeah, I noticed that G5 and B5 were 𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘺 off. (never been good at hitting high Gs) As for the lower notes, I could hit B2-E4 without any vocal fry. I'll go with B2-G5 for now. Thanks for your help! 🥰🥰🥰
Hello, what is my range if i can go from a Gb3 to a chesty Eb5, a mixed F#5 and with head voice/falsetto i think a Ab6
Im a 11 old boy if that interfears in my range
And if im a mezzo, In a chorus would i be with the sopranos or the altos?
Sorry for my english
No, your English is fine, not something you should be embarrassed about.
Yeah, being a boy Soprano is pretty cool. The voice will change pretty soon, and you might not have all those strong high notes forever. Enjoy the range! You'll need to retest your voice at least every year until it settles a little more, then you should have a more permanent classification to work with.
The problem with the changing voice is that you might be a Soprano in the choir today, but an Alto tomorrow, and a Baritone next month. Just keep track of your range progress and go where it works best that month (lol). I'd put you with the Sopranos for most Middle School rep right now for the color, I'm sure your falsetto would add something to the section sound. But as soon as you started losing the 6 octave, I'd consider moving to another section, maybe Tenor.
Thanks for reaching out!
I subscribed to ya
Thanks, but for now do you think im a mezzo?
Edit 1: i made the test again as u told me to, and now i can go from a F3 to a D7
Edit 2: thanks for saying that about my english im from brazil and now i live in germany so its really hard for me to learn thank you very much i love ur work
I subbed from my other account too, and *by the way this is me
Wow! Interesting how it changed a little, even in such a short amount of time. Some people work ages to get one more note higher or lower for their range. For now, most Mezzo rep should be good, but just know that it will likely change pretty soon. Keep retesting and seeing what feels the most comfortable. Thanks for the sub, and let me know if I can help with anything
Thanks, i just have a daubt, the mezzos in the chorus, do they always sing with the sopranos?
Cause i have always wanted to do the harmonys...
If I go from a c#2 to a g5 what category do I fall under?
Hey, I saw your other comment first and responded there! Hope that's helpful
En Hymn it was but I also think I am a bass but I can sing tenor without too much trouble
im a high school girl and i sing alto-tenor 😂 is that normal haha
Yeah, of course! Low altos are a great asset, it's nice to be someone who can do both, you're a conductor's best friend because if the tenor part is too high or the alto part is super low, often someone like you is the only one who can do the part right. Great question.
Yall I go from c#2 to G5 would I be bass or could I also be in tenor I’m so confused
What.A.Boss. I would be super impressed if that was all full voice. Is it?
En Hymn well It’s complicated because l can hit the c#2 but like I’m not that comfortable singing it and same with the g5 and am I a bass then??
It's hard to tell without hearing it myself, but my assumption is you have a Bass voice with an extended upper register or a really strong head voice.
Where's your break, usually?
En Hymn like a D5 or E5
I suffer to do a G5
En Hymn thanks
wat if i dont have a piano like that
Frankly Worship you can just find me after church, man! There are some apps you can download on your phone also, like piano or pitch apps. Should be pretty easy to find one you like!
sounds good
What if i can go from E3 to E5
That's essentially the true Alto range, with a little extension in the low end. Great range, those low notes would be a great asset to a choir!
@@EnHymn Oh! Okay, thank you so much!
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Desculpe, the video is only in English. I haven't been able to translate it yet
Can a man be a soprano?
Unchanged men's voices are often labeled as being Soprano. It's fairly rare for men who have undergone puberty to retain that voice range, but not impossible I suppose. There's a voice type called "countertenor" that is pretty close to what we would categorize "soprano," but it's usually performed by a baritone male voice in (strong) falsetto. Good question.
Good point, San.
So far as I know, the last of the castrati was a man named Alessandro Moreschi who died in the early 1900's. The reason I remember this is that he is also the only known recorded castrato singer, right at the beginning of recording technology around 1902 or so. You could probably look him up on YT and listen, I'm sure someone has uploaded the audio somewhere.
The practice has been outlawed since before 1900 in Europe and elsewhere, so it's been practically 100 years since we've seen a classical singer with that voice type. Interesting piece of history, though.
Thanks for the comment!