What sucks for the ship is that since it was pier side undergoing maintenance, hatches and passageways were probably open allowing the fire to travel throughout the ship, hopefully they open the valves and flood the well deck and compartments below the waterline. It will not sink since the bottom where it's tied up isn't deep enough but they need to let it settle flat so it doesn't capsize at the pier if that can indeed happen.
@CSXRockford , Then they need to put the water to it until it settles on the bottom. I hope they closed as many hatches and scuttles as possible to isolate the fire or it will just go deck to deck till the whole thing burns. If they can isolate a deck and flood it above the fire maybe they can stop it from travelling by conductive heat?
@@5695q doubt that. If water is deep enough for it to capsize, its deep enough to sink a considerable amount. I imagine that an issue that ships in this situation would have is drifting away, gotta be careful not to break the Bits on the pier with that, gotta loosen the Line so it won't tear/unravel as the ship fills and drifts in odd ways.
Im prior Navy. If this was a nuclear ship they would evacuate the area for MILES no need to worry about that everyone but they do likely have hazardous materials on board for sure which could possibly get into the air if it is exposed that being said just be smart to stay inside much as possible with your ac. Stay safe everyone.
Having been a pipe welder on several of these ships, I can tell you that it is NOT NUCLEAR. It IS Steam Turbine driven, with a fuel oil boiler. The "Lower V" area which they say was the origin of the fire has numerous wires, thick rubber coating on the deck, rubber seals, polyurethane paints, various textiles, hydraulic fluid lines and their associated fluid, plastic lens covers and various electronics. The smoke not being toxic is a bit far fetched, but it's not nuclear and most likely has zero asbestos except incidental amounts which may have been snuck in by contractors (that sort of thing happened in the 90s).
@Mike Davidson The Admiral already said there was no hot work going on at the time. This was early on a Sunday morning. And if you're going to be giving people a hard time for being "deficient in English" you probably shouldn't be writing things like "could of been."
"There's nothing toxic to breathe here folks. Just a carrier burning up that you're breathing. Totally non-toxic. NOTHING at all to worry about. That burning plastic smell? Just like a bonfire, amirite?"
To be cynical, this seems like a "Remember the Maine" type of incident. As a complete outsider, I just don't understand how the most powerful navy in the world, with a wealth of operational experience deriving from WW2 backed up with operations in Korea, Viet Nam, the Gulf War, and the Iraq War, can't successfully control a fire occurring during maintenance at a major US naval base. It makes sense to me how such a problem could occur with the Admiral Kuznetsov. I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happened with the PLA Navy. But the USN???? Really???? I guess time will tell whether I think this is a false flag against the PLA Navy or the USAF (for budgetary purposes).
The ship had no working fire suppression system. The ship had a minimal crew on board - it was in a port maintenance cycle. They ordered everyone off the ship after the first explosion, allowing the fire to grow. If only they had you there to single handedly put out the fire with your hot air, the emergency would be over.
@@mikehunt8079, and again, that is an inaccurate statement, it is NOT nuclear powered. The engines are gas-turbine engines, similar to the engines on large jet aircraft.
There is no saving it. The ship is already gone. It's gutted, the fire has collapsed areas of superstructure. All they're doing now is trying to keep it from breaking up and spilling a million gallons of fuel oil into the harbor.
So I was wondering why the Navy firefighters weren't on there so I waited to watch the video and that answered my question of that movie in the ships away there's live fucking missiles on that ship
This does not instill confidence in our ship building skills. If an accidental fire at dock can take out a ship like this imagine what a missile or bomb during war time would do. It would not have a chance of surviving.
@@sandymoonstone855 oh yeah who says? Haven't heard any reports about that. If nuclear material were burning all those fighting it are at risk not to mention all civilians about. And that mask isn't going to stop radio activity. lol
@@evghenigordienco7915 yes it's bad but if the super structure is not melted or warped it's still salvageable look a pic of aircraft carrier from ww2 there are some that have major damage and were repaired. Ps sorry I'm still learning English.
@@samchi7030 I am not a specialist, but due to the high temperature the metal from which the structures were made had to lose its initial properties. This is probably not very good.
"petroleum based products" just because it's not liquid and in your car, doesn't mean it isn't made with petroleum. Ever throw a box of pins in a fire? Or plastic bags, or printed paper? Or binders?
USCG..i spent more than enough time on Cutters...When you Evacuate you don't take the Time to close the Hatch Doors behind you except the Engine room ...They had to abandon Ship Mr Expert. Explosions and Heavy Smoke..yeah that's wipe off the Walls with no Problem!
What sucks for the ship is that since it was pier side undergoing maintenance, hatches and passageways were probably open allowing the fire to travel throughout the ship, hopefully they open the valves and flood the well deck and compartments below the waterline. It will not sink since the bottom where it's tied up isn't deep enough but they need to let it settle flat so it doesn't capsize at the pier if that can indeed happen.
@CSXRockford , Then they need to put the water to it until it settles on the bottom. I hope they closed as many hatches and scuttles as possible to isolate the fire or it will just go deck to deck till the whole thing burns. If they can isolate a deck and flood it above the fire maybe they can stop it from travelling by conductive heat?
But it will list
@@5695q doubt that.
If water is deep enough for it to capsize, its deep enough to sink a considerable amount.
I imagine that an issue that ships in this situation would have is drifting away, gotta be careful not to break the Bits on the pier with that, gotta loosen the Line so it won't tear/unravel as the ship fills and drifts in odd ways.
That ship is going to be so warped it's going to be and unsalvageable
Im prior Navy. If this was a nuclear ship they would evacuate the area for MILES no need to worry about that everyone but they do likely have hazardous materials on board for sure which could possibly get into the air if it is exposed that being said just be smart to stay inside much as possible with your ac. Stay safe everyone.
Having been a pipe welder on several of these ships, I can tell you that it is NOT NUCLEAR. It IS Steam Turbine driven, with a fuel oil boiler. The "Lower V" area which they say was the origin of the fire has numerous wires, thick rubber coating on the deck, rubber seals, polyurethane paints, various textiles, hydraulic fluid lines and their associated fluid, plastic lens covers and various electronics. The smoke not being toxic is a bit far fetched, but it's not nuclear and most likely has zero asbestos except incidental amounts which may have been snuck in by contractors (that sort of thing happened in the 90s).
If your wearing a mask, put the microphone closer
Now she needs subtitles.
I spent four years on that boat and that ship is listing
That's what happens when you pump water on board for 24 hours.
@Mike Davidson The Admiral already said there was no hot work going on at the time. This was early on a Sunday morning. And if you're going to be giving people a hard time for being "deficient in English" you probably shouldn't be writing things like "could of been."
Remember when they told the people that nothing toxic was in the air after 9/11?
Good thing there was no Jet Fuel involved, she might have sunk by now.
@@bluepilldevolution7914 she can't sink, the harbor isn't deep enough.
"There's nothing toxic to breathe here folks. Just a carrier burning up that you're breathing. Totally non-toxic. NOTHING at all to worry about. That burning plastic smell? Just like a bonfire, amirite?"
In the morning yesterday, it definitely smelled like burnt plastic. Nice to add with a virus in the air
nuclear reactor is on fire
@@sandymoonstone855, once again, the ship is NOT nuclear powered. It is powered by gas-turbine engines, similar to the engines on large jet aircraft.
nuclear material is burning☢
@@sandymoonstone855 the ship is not nuclear
Served on LHA 3...goodbye to the oa weather office on the 07 level...just glad everyone got off safely.
1200 degrees or more in temperature or about double.
Are we going to hear a year later about first responders coming down with an unknown illness from exposure to this fire?
As if this is the first exposure to fire that a FIRE FIGHTER would have experienced.
Remember the SS Normandie. An ocean liner caught fire, burnt and capsized in New York harbor in 1944.
They trying to sink the Harambe Richard?
what the hell is the Harambe Richard it's the Bonhomme Richard
@@robertyoung3992 That's what I said... The Harambe Richard.
@@illiilliilliill lmfao you're a legend
@@matthewprice3603 😆
Tits out for Harambe...😔
Does anyone really think those helicopters put enough water on this ship to make a difference?
It's to provide a cooling barrier. Cool the surrounding spaces to help prevent fire spread. Just being pushed back more and more...
@@warsman22 thanks.
They're trying to keep areas of the ship from collapsing due to the heat.
I just saw it, its starting to sink!!
Ya she wont sink
Probably not even deep enough there for it to sink, just settle with plenty of hull above the water.
There were what look like containers on the deck. Was the ship undergoing some kind of construction/repair project?
Massive refit.
Not a refit, maintenance cycle
@@warsman22 It just finished a $249 million refit at General Dynamics just prior to starting this maint cycle.
@@stargazer7644 I wasn't dismissing it. Was just saying that wasn't happening at the same time
fuel and ammo?
A lot of fuel no ammo or aircrafts witch shouldn't be on board for maintenance.
@@samchi7030 Are you sure about the ammo? The Marines keep a lot of small arms and grenade/rockets on hand.
@@AmericasChoice no ammo. Its transferred prior to maintenance. They do that just for this reason
@@oldfucker68 Got it.
To be cynical, this seems like a "Remember the Maine" type of incident. As a complete outsider, I just don't understand how the most powerful navy in the world, with a wealth of operational experience deriving from WW2 backed up with operations in Korea, Viet Nam, the Gulf War, and the Iraq War, can't successfully control a fire occurring during maintenance at a major US naval base. It makes sense to me how such a problem could occur with the Admiral Kuznetsov. I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happened with the PLA Navy. But the USN???? Really???? I guess time will tell whether I think this is a false flag against the PLA Navy or the USAF (for budgetary purposes).
The ship had no working fire suppression system. The ship had a minimal crew on board - it was in a port maintenance cycle. They ordered everyone off the ship after the first explosion, allowing the fire to grow. If only they had you there to single handedly put out the fire with your hot air, the emergency would be over.
Why did the CDF not step up yesterday with the water bombers from Ramona?
The paint on all the bulkheads catch fire. That's why sailors have to scrape paint--to keep the fire potential down.
hope the fuel 2 decks below the fire doesn't pop off.
Office equipment?. What the heck was on board they well never say.
Connex boxes full of supplies. Ships don't just carry guns, paint, and food. Ever wonder why ships like LHA's are called small cities?
We think maybe made a boat deep in water better do you think
Office supplies? Who do they think they’re kidding?
Now people actually have a reason to wear a mask.
Spokesman said they have a million gallons of oil on board.
@@Examoon that class ship Carrie's a million gallons of fuel. I'm your source.
Not uncommon to refuel import during maintenance cycle
@@Examoon Press conference statement by the Admiral dude.
@@Examoon The source is every press conference they've given.
Looks like a Bon fire!
The fire is under the deck what does dropping water on the deck do.....
Keep it cool
Heat rises right?
@@oldfucker68 obviously cooling metal will do what how come this boat hasn't sunk yet based of 911 logic it should have already sunk
@@jonathanobrien3251 ballast tanks that's why it hasn't sank. Amphibious ships are hard to sink because of those tanks.
@@oldfucker68 yes
She's starting to list to starboard.
One of the sailors will know what started it.
.
It will be some mishap due to repair work. (most likely)
Rubber is burning.
nuclear reactor is on fire
@@mikehunt8079, and again, that is an inaccurate statement, it is NOT nuclear powered. The engines are gas-turbine engines, similar to the engines on large jet aircraft.
@@mikehunt8079 it doesn't have a reactor dip shit.
@@kirkmooneyham you are wrong also. It's a steam turbine ship.
omgoodness, the ship is listing to starboard....
No big deal the water in port is quite shallow they can just float it up just like what happened in pearl harbor.
what a horrible accident
This really does look bad... Man - I hope they can save that ship..
There is no saving it. The ship is already gone. It's gutted, the fire has collapsed areas of superstructure. All they're doing now is trying to keep it from breaking up and spilling a million gallons of fuel oil into the harbor.
So I was wondering why the Navy firefighters weren't on there so I waited to watch the video and that answered my question of that movie in the ships away there's live fucking missiles on that ship
LHA's do not carry missiles on a maintenance cycle in port. Try again kiddo
RIP.
China spi agancey bhind this kind of fire
idiot...Martians!))
It's obviously the pixies, like the same ones you have in your head
Hit by Houthis missiles??
Sad
Sabotage?
Just sink the damn boat, make a whole a the bottom.
or pull the plug
@@sandymoonstone855 😁
I mean, it won't be on fire anymore if it's underwater.
@@15firekid .nuclear material will "burn' under water
It's in the god damn port it's not deep enough and there is no fucking radioactive material on board
This does not instill confidence in our ship building skills. If an accidental fire at dock can take out a ship like this imagine what a missile or bomb during war time would do. It would not have a chance of surviving.
Mumble mumble y mask by herself lol
Nuclear material is burning
@@sandymoonstone855 oh yeah who says? Haven't heard any reports about that. If nuclear material were burning all those fighting it are at risk not to mention all civilians about. And that mask isn't going to stop radio activity. lol
She's not by herself, she's standing 3 feet in front of her camera man and sound man.
@@stargazer7644 lol camera man can't shoot from 2 meters? Nor the sound man? Funny the other reporter wasn't needing a mask?
just blame China.
Martians!))
картина Репина на фоне полосатого, у всевышнего с юмором всё нормально.
1 ship only take that long bad sich smell hold city .less job , more work. Supper wwww . common save people .not money
What the hell are you trying to say?
I thought I had a stroke reading this
the end of the ship...rip
Not necessarily ww2 aircraft carrier had way more damage and still got repaired and sent back to combat.
@@samchi7030
This ship is not recoverable. Find pictures of the effects of the fire on the Internet. You will be terrified.
@@evghenigordienco7915 yes it's bad but if the super structure is not melted or warped it's still salvageable look a pic of aircraft carrier from ww2 there are some that have major damage and were repaired.
Ps sorry I'm still learning English.
@@samchi7030
I am not a specialist, but due to the high temperature the metal from which the structures were made had to lose its initial properties. This is probably not very good.
@@evghenigordienco7915 true the out side of the ship is being cold down to prevent it from getting to that and losing its strength
Сара Дору под полила))) А ха ха!!!
Right before ww3, and office supplies dont burn black smoke lmfao
Oil,diesel,gas,plastic etc when burned will emit black smoke
"petroleum based products" just because it's not liquid and in your car, doesn't mean it isn't made with petroleum. Ever throw a box of pins in a fire? Or plastic bags, or printed paper? Or binders?
@@warsman22 me or Jonathan
@@samchi7030 jonathan
@@warsman22 ok
Like I said...Drag her out 100 miles...She served and will be Remembered but not like this!!
@geo nut Agreed
USCG..i spent more than enough time on Cutters...When you Evacuate you don't take the Time to close the Hatch Doors behind you except the Engine room ...They had to abandon Ship Mr Expert. Explosions and Heavy Smoke..yeah that's wipe off the Walls with no Problem!
@geo nut oil floats on water it will still burn you fucking dumb shit
Get some tugboats and take it in the middle of the ocean !! Daaaa
Trump gonna take credit too?