The Vampiric Tutor font being slightly off will irk at first glance. The fact that the flavor text says "students,diuining" instead of "students, divining" makes me think the counterfeiters need someone to proofread better.
Just a vanilla creature? I was thinking a bronze tablet effect. "Exchange ownership of one floppy taco and one reserved list card target player controls"
I used to work as a cashier in a bank and I could tell fake notes instantly by touch. Every time except once when I was working in a shop and this dude bought in a fake £20 Scottish note where the paper was ‘spot on’! And because I hadn’t handled Scottish twenties very much, I couldn’t be 100% on the printing, but something felt off, but the paper was so good and was the hardest thing to fake, so I let it go. I did however get the security guard to note down the dudes car registration. After he’d gone I checked again and it was a good fake (next generation), but it was a fake. No UV stamp under black light. We went around the shops on the estate and he hit all of them too. All had been fooled! But we had the dude’s car reg. Were the banks or police interested? Not at all! It was impressive though. The one fake that got past me in all my years at the bank and in retail. And it was all to do with the feel of the paper.
I like how Rudy almost completely ignored the rosette concerns. The whole point is that the fake Exhibit A is using a two layer printing process, while the "r" in Exhibit B is the older fake where the type blends into the rosette. Sure, you can judge by texture when you've handled 1 million floppy tacos, but most of us rely on a multiple point authentication in order to get it right when dealing with expensive cards. If counterfeiters ever nail the card stock and find a way to pass the green dot test, confidence in vintage magic will collapse among non-unprofessional RUclipsrs.
Thing is if they perfect the print, then they will move to perfect the feel and maybe even the paper. Still there is no point for them to try to perfect the feel, if printing still needs improvement. I imagine at some point they will have the capital to produce their paper and that is what is more scary.
@@nubnub8202 looks like theres an empty sleeve ontop of the package which is what he accidentally hit with his off-camera hand causing the yellow paper packaging move
The advantage of looking at the printing pattern under magnification, is that it can be used to authenticate cards over the internet when the cards are not in hand and can't be personally inspected. Sometimes you need to know if a card is real before they ship it to you.
I disagree. You can play games with the cards. If you are buying the cards for money you will always lose. If you are buying them to have fun then it doesn't matter if they are fake.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 fake cards cost almost nothing to buy and the case protectors are stupid expensive because of a supply issue right now, Rudy made a video on it a couple days ago, i think youd be supervised >_>
Tempest and a Computer This. It’s like people here have never bulk ordered proxies before. You aren’t stuck with one quality level and it ranges greatly. My friends and I don’t have rules against proxies so I order frequently
I wonder how many more years before the Chinese have completely nailed the production of current set cards. I believe it is only a matter of time. The Chinese have a great history and tradition of creating replicas. Its not shameful near as much as it is in the West. Anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens when they get them to the point where Ol' Greasy Hair can't tell by feel.
Plot twist,... just to make Rudy mad,... WoTC starts glossing all their cards and reprints everything from 1993 to date with glossy shiny plasticky materials as a cost cutting measure. You know cuz corporations are greedy.
its very hard for typical mtg finance people to avoid proxies because mtg finance people believe, as a rule, they should always be involved in these unbalanced value trades where they get more than they give, usually dealing with Timmies aka literal children who don't know better. this makes it very easy for a proxy vendor to just pretend to be ignorant of prices and values or pretend to be under 18 and all their stock gets bought out.
Just making a joke but a hundred years from now will the fake exact cards obviously are much more scarce than the millions of real Prince and have some kind of intrinsic value
With my surround headphones I physically felt the wind and whoosh of when Rudy swinged by my right ear when he threw the first letter to the table. Creepy!
No way, even my vintage four horseman cards that have literally been thrown around in parks, driveways and garages still don’t have wear like that! It’s all about true real old consistency in the wear & tear!
Just like the guy who mailed the 3 cards in I use the rosettes as my major form of verification, plus light test is pretty dang good. I usually can tell fakes by texture way before getting to the inspect phase, but I wonder if the technology gets to a point where the texture is matched really well. PS how many counterfeiters are watching this and taking notes 🤔
Tool tip: a caliper can measure the thickness of paper, and an accurate scale will, obviously, show weight differences. These two tools will show a visual confirmation for the camera as you explain the tactile differences that are difficult to capture on camera. Nice vids!
blightsteel wear is super sus because that kind of wear is almost unheard of on modern era cards, esp very rare ones. how may of these have actually been rescued from toddlers?
Been sorting and sorting and found one of those and a couple others since your videos. So easy to see them. But maybe I don't know. I am mostly lost. I sorted ten thou cards into colors omg. Now I know they need to be in symbols. But after doing that. I found lists of the truth so starting over. Have sleeves now and pages and ya lost. Omg.
I once had someone come to my LGS with a binder full of mirrodin beseiged era non foil mythics and rares. All of them looked like this tone. The set symbols were how I noticed, luckily I told the judges before anyone traded with him. These fakes seem to have gotten a lot of people. He said that he inherited all of his cards from his uncle but I really doubt it, the dude was like 25 and this was back around m15 prerelease.
Magic copies is a bad scene then trust me the pokemon copies scene is fucking so bad that searching for pokemon lots on ebay will give you litterallt pages of fakes. Before you get near anything remotly legit.
The first "expensive" RL card I bought was a revised Bayou. Trade was done on Facebook and we exchanged in the middle of a food court in a mall before walking away and never speaking again. Several stores looked it over and it seems to be real but I'll never forget how stupid I was for taking a chance that way. Walked away with a decent LP one for $200 though!
What I love about the fake cards for the kids is that they won’t care so long as they don’t try to sell them... maybe if these counterfeit cards had FAKE in big red letters on the back it wouldn’t be so bad?
His sample of Exhibit A looks as if the black type was printed first, then the 4 color background was printed, because the rosette pattern is overlapping the type. Whereas, Exhibit C it is obvious that the black type was printed along with everything else, as part of the 4 color as it should be. Four color being CMYK (Cyan Magenta Yellow Black) that is used to create the color art in typical printing. You could also use spot colors to print, which is ink that is already red, or green, or orange, etc. without having to combine the CMYK, but that is a much more expensive process, and not likely to be used for Magic, though it is used in some degree for other trading cards. Exhibit B is just a joke, and fairly obvious that someone scanned a printed card and tried to use that to print more.
Way I could easily tell Vampiric was fake was the kerning on "Instant" and the rest of the text being too wide and the uneven bolding on the text vs the flavor text. The Nether Void was also obvious due to how dark the printing was, which didn't happen for English Legends.
The magnification does tell a story, the one of how the cards were faked. It's just not the quality of the dots, it's the pattern and type. Exhibit 'A' is a standard CMYK ink jet printer. All dots are the same intensity, and the dot pattern is aligned with the print head across the page. At the bottom of the "r" you can also see color underprinting of the black ink, a common practice to increase black density in ink jets. Exhibit 'B' is an ink jet photo printer, as it has two different pigment intensities in C and M channels, and uses a stochastic "random" dithering pattern rarely used in offset. Exhibit 'C' is clearly offset press, as you can see the rotational difference between the M and Y screen mask, and variation of the ink flow through the mask. Not as quick as the feel test, but just as certain. If the counterfeiters ever get the card stock right, this sort of examination might be necessary.
Didn't watch the video yet but from the thumbnail alone I can say I verify authenticity the exact same way as whomever printed those blown up microscope images of the rosettes. Quality methodology.
I agree with you Rudy. I purchased some nice proxy power 9 cards on ebay. They look great and are not shinny. But the cardboard feels more like a hard plastic.
The text on that Vampiric Tutor is also way off, most noticeable around the word "divining". Take a look at the scryfall image of a classic 6th ed vampiric and compare to the one in the video, the text generally looks a little wrong but also there's no spacing between the comma and the word "divining" and also the card in the video has it spelled "diuining" lmao
Oh wow the front of those pokemon cards looked real the back was a dead give away tho. I just started my own channel opening yugioh and pokemon packs, on my video yesterday i thought some of the newer cards where fake might send them to you :)
The font on the pokemon cards is also a dead giveaway. It's taller and thinner than what would be on a genuine card. The ultra rare Pikachu and Zekrom is also missing the texturing that appears on newer ultra rares.
Another detail on the Vampiric Tutor in particular, on the back of the card top left corner, there is now white spec/spot. If you look at any other mtg card back you will find the white spec/spot. 10:15
You of all people should be more open to more professional ways of identifying fake cards. Buying cards worth thousand based off instinct and feel is risky.
Thats like buying a 20 yard car. Did you lift it up on a hoist and check the undercarriage? Or is the frame or sub frame rotten and the wheels are about to fall off lol!
It is a matter of time before they do get it right. I mean WotC card stock is made by people in a factory using processes that can be replicated. It is only a matter of time if the financial incentive is there. For now, the counterfeiters can get 90% of the profits by only working on the printing. If they ever need to focus on the card stock to make the money, good bye Irene.
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The Vampiric Tutor font being slightly off will irk at first glance. The fact that the flavor text says "students,diuining" instead of "students, divining" makes me think the counterfeiters need someone to proofread better.
lol good catch.
I noticed that too. There being a glaring typo was an immediate red flag.
I think that’s intentional, it’s enough difference to make it not violate Chinese copy right law
@@patmacrotch5611 chinese copyright laws, huh?
Rudy, Killer of Hopes and Dreams
Legendary Creature - Human Taco
6/9
Just a vanilla creature? I was thinking a bronze tablet effect. "Exchange ownership of one floppy taco and one reserved list card target player controls"
@@unbanrofellos5786 I was thinking "Exile target Rudy t-shirt you control, then return it the battlefield under its owners control in size XXL."
giggity
I used to work as a cashier in a bank and I could tell fake notes instantly by touch. Every time except once when I was working in a shop and this dude bought in a fake £20 Scottish note where the paper was ‘spot on’! And because I hadn’t handled Scottish twenties very much, I couldn’t be 100% on the printing, but something felt off, but the paper was so good and was the hardest thing to fake, so I let it go.
I did however get the security guard to note down the dudes car registration.
After he’d gone I checked again and it was a good fake (next generation), but it was a fake. No UV stamp under black light.
We went around the shops on the estate and he hit all of them too. All had been fooled!
But we had the dude’s car reg.
Were the banks or police interested?
Not at all!
It was impressive though.
The one fake that got past me in all my years at the bank and in retail. And it was all to do with the feel of the paper.
I like how Rudy almost completely ignored the rosette concerns. The whole point is that the fake Exhibit A is using a two layer printing process, while the "r" in Exhibit B is the older fake where the type blends into the rosette. Sure, you can judge by texture when you've handled 1 million floppy tacos, but most of us rely on a multiple point authentication in order to get it right when dealing with expensive cards. If counterfeiters ever nail the card stock and find a way to pass the green dot test, confidence in vintage magic will collapse among non-unprofessional RUclipsrs.
Thing is if they perfect the print, then they will move to perfect the feel and maybe even the paper. Still there is no point for them to try to perfect the feel, if printing still needs improvement.
I imagine at some point they will have the capital to produce their paper and that is what is more scary.
i swear i see a ghost just touch and move the top right package at 10:12. seriously creepy lookin
Probably just his off camera hand touching the side lol.
@@paullwrightt unless that hand is invisible, I'm not sure about that conclusion.
@@nubnub8202 looks like theres an empty sleeve ontop of the package which is what he accidentally hit with his off-camera hand causing the yellow paper packaging move
The advantage of looking at the printing pattern under magnification, is that it can be used to authenticate cards over the internet when the cards are not in hand and can't be personally inspected.
Sometimes you need to know if a card is real before they ship it to you.
When is Rudy going to judge counterfeit tacos vs real taco bell tacos?
This is the real question
The real question is when will he compare Taco Bell tacos vs real Mexican tacos
@@enxel493 This. The Taco Bell tacos are the counterfeit tacos.
The protectors are worth more than the fake cards in them
I disagree. You can play games with the cards. If you are buying the cards for money you will always lose. If you are buying them to have fun then it doesn't matter if they are fake.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 fake cards cost almost nothing to buy and the case protectors are stupid expensive because of a supply issue right now, Rudy made a video on it a couple days ago, i think youd be supervised >_>
Whisker Biscuit you got to love paying 80+ dollars for a product you didn’t ask for 🤗
@@shadowrundas The high quality proxies of cards run around $3. Aint that much, but i reckon its still more than the top loader
Tempest and a Computer This. It’s like people here have never bulk ordered proxies before. You aren’t stuck with one quality level and it ranges greatly. My friends and I don’t have rules against proxies so I order frequently
All my hopes, all my dreams, carried away in that luxurious stylish cardboard coffin. The bootleg afterlife in Rudy's basement!
It’s about 3am here in Texas. I find myself watching Alpha Investments and Magic Aids a lot.
Grown_man_studies_cardboard.mp4
"Makes thousands buying and selling cardstock!"
I wonder how many more years before the Chinese have completely nailed the production of current set cards. I believe it is only a matter of time. The Chinese have a great history and tradition of creating replicas. Its not shameful near as much as it is in the West. Anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens when they get them to the point where Ol' Greasy Hair can't tell by feel.
Nopes and Dreams
Won't you take me to... Hose town ! Won't you take me to... hose toooown.
I'm glad for your channel. It's always good to keep up to date on this type of info. I might check all my rares and mythics
Plot twist,... just to make Rudy mad,... WoTC starts glossing all their cards and reprints everything from 1993 to date with glossy shiny plasticky materials as a cost cutting measure.
You know cuz corporations are greedy.
i def love these vids i feel like they help people to not get ripped off and they help me alot with my timmy purchasing
Someday when Rudy gets big he'll be a professional youtuber
its very hard for typical mtg finance people to avoid proxies because mtg finance people believe, as a rule, they should always be involved in these unbalanced value trades where they get more than they give, usually dealing with Timmies aka literal children who don't know better. this makes it very easy for a proxy vendor to just pretend to be ignorant of prices and values or pretend to be under 18 and all their stock gets bought out.
Just making a joke but a hundred years from now will the fake exact cards obviously are much more scarce than the millions of real Prince and have some kind of intrinsic value
With my surround headphones I physically felt the wind and whoosh of when Rudy swinged by my right ear when he threw the first letter to the table. Creepy!
If you're going to use the loupe as your standard, at least use it on the green circle on the back. I've yet to see any counterfeits pass that test
It’s the card stock stupid - Rudy 2020
We're all going to be in trouble if they start using matte-finish paper for fake cards😲
Anyone else think Rudy sounds like the t-Rex from Toy Story when he gets excited?
No way, even my vintage four horseman cards that have literally been thrown around in parks, driveways and garages still don’t have wear like that! It’s all about true real old consistency in the wear & tear!
It doesn't have the correct "patina" of age. That would be an accurate word.
Is rudys light house in the hopes and dreams box
No.
3:48 roughing up the edges on the cocaine lol
Just like the guy who mailed the 3 cards in I use the rosettes as my major form of verification, plus light test is pretty dang good. I usually can tell fakes by texture way before getting to the inspect phase, but I wonder if the technology gets to a point where the texture is matched really well.
PS how many counterfeiters are watching this and taking notes 🤔
I am writing it all down on a soft shell taco.
Yes! I love the hopes and dreams box.
It's the only place I can see my future!
Now I'm obsessively checking my 6ED Vampiric Tutor
I opened Blightsteel in my first ever pack.. It's a shame I didn't know what sleeves were for 5 years
"I still go by instinct..."
Hey I got this Gem Mint ready to be graded Alpha Black Lotu-
"...FAKE!!!!!"
Tool tip: a caliper can measure the thickness of paper, and an accurate scale will, obviously, show weight differences. These two tools will show a visual confirmation for the camera as you explain the tactile differences that are difficult to capture on camera. Nice vids!
Have we all been watching some of the awesome baby beaver and chipmunk videos?
God, Pokemon fakes are still so bad.
blightsteel wear is super sus because that kind of wear is almost unheard of on modern era cards, esp very rare ones. how may of these have actually been rescued from toddlers?
If i didnt see it come from a sealed booster pack i already question it- thats why i only play with the cards and never buy them for value.
Been sorting and sorting and found one of those and a couple others since your videos. So easy to see them. But maybe I don't know. I am mostly lost. I sorted ten thou cards into colors omg. Now I know they need to be in symbols. But after doing that. I found lists of the truth so starting over. Have sleeves now and pages and ya lost. Omg.
Another great video. I'm new to MTG and there is always something to learn. Thanks man!!
I once had someone come to my LGS with a binder full of mirrodin beseiged era non foil mythics and rares. All of them looked like this tone. The set symbols were how I noticed, luckily I told the judges before anyone traded with him. These fakes seem to have gotten a lot of people. He said that he inherited all of his cards from his uncle but I really doubt it, the dude was like 25 and this was back around m15 prerelease.
when did they start fakemasterpieces/ expeditions never seen those before
Early 2018
A while ago
Wow!!! That Black Lotus really does look like a Basement Troll.
Why did this come up in my feed on the day after the 30th anniversary info comes out? Coincidence? Hmmm.
When your wifi doesn't like you - is it because your 2.4 and 5 ghz are the same name but somehow you put different passwords in on accident?
Hi Rudy, in your hopes and dreams box I saw and Italian Volcanic Island.. Can I have more info about it and what makes it fake?
Those Pokemon cards were so blatant and obviously fake the second you held them up. Yikes.
I cant get enough of the fake card checks. Btw the modern fakes got really good in 2023.
Magic copies is a bad scene then trust me the pokemon copies scene is fucking so bad that searching for pokemon lots on ebay will give you litterallt pages of fakes.
Before you get near anything remotly legit.
What about the light test? I have used that as my go to.
What do you think of it?
The first "expensive" RL card I bought was a revised Bayou. Trade was done on Facebook and we exchanged in the middle of a food court in a mall before walking away and never speaking again. Several stores looked it over and it seems to be real but I'll never forget how stupid I was for taking a chance that way. Walked away with a decent LP one for $200 though!
It's baffling that even after a year Pokemon card counterfeiters haven't got the font right.
Wake up and smell the cards! You can smell genuine cards and fake cards and tell the difference
Man that hurts .. so sorry for the person who bought this .
What I love about the fake cards for the kids is that they won’t care so long as they don’t try to sell them... maybe if these counterfeit cards had FAKE in big red letters on the back it wouldn’t be so bad?
Some sick bastard rebacked Ikoria promos with the back of pokemon cards!
That's why I buy my proxies from reputable sources lol
‘Again, I’m not a professionel youtuber’ 😂
Can’t feel a card from pictures
Hopes and Dreams sounds like a place for all my ex-girlfriends 😢😢😢😢😢
Sounds like you had a lot Of ex girlfriend 🥳
His sample of Exhibit A looks as if the black type was printed first, then the 4 color background was printed, because the rosette pattern is overlapping the type. Whereas, Exhibit C it is obvious that the black type was printed along with everything else, as part of the 4 color as it should be. Four color being CMYK (Cyan Magenta Yellow Black) that is used to create the color art in typical printing. You could also use spot colors to print, which is ink that is already red, or green, or orange, etc. without having to combine the CMYK, but that is a much more expensive process, and not likely to be used for Magic, though it is used in some degree for other trading cards. Exhibit B is just a joke, and fairly obvious that someone scanned a printed card and tried to use that to print more.
Way I could easily tell Vampiric was fake was the kerning on "Instant" and the rest of the text being too wide and the uneven bolding on the text vs the flavor text. The Nether Void was also obvious due to how dark the printing was, which didn't happen for English Legends.
The magnification does tell a story, the one of how the cards were faked. It's just not the quality of the dots, it's the pattern and type. Exhibit 'A' is a standard CMYK ink jet printer. All dots are the same intensity, and the dot pattern is aligned with the print head across the page. At the bottom of the "r" you can also see color underprinting of the black ink, a common practice to increase black density in ink jets. Exhibit 'B' is an ink jet photo printer, as it has two different pigment intensities in C and M channels, and uses a stochastic "random" dithering pattern rarely used in offset. Exhibit 'C' is clearly offset press, as you can see the rotational difference between the M and Y screen mask, and variation of the ink flow through the mask. Not as quick as the feel test, but just as certain. If the counterfeiters ever get the card stock right, this sort of examination might be necessary.
Are the modern cards harder or easier to fake than the old ones? i would assume harder?
I need a fake power nine. So I can glue them to a white A4 and put them in a frame XD
Didn't watch the video yet but from the thumbnail alone I can say I verify authenticity the exact same way as whomever printed those blown up microscope images of the rosettes.
Quality methodology.
I agree with you Rudy. I purchased some nice proxy power 9 cards on ebay.
They look great and are not shinny. But the cardboard feels more like a hard plastic.
The text on that Vampiric Tutor is also way off, most noticeable around the word "divining". Take a look at the scryfall image of a classic 6th ed vampiric and compare to the one in the video, the text generally looks a little wrong but also there's no spacing between the comma and the word "divining" and also the card in the video has it spelled "diuining" lmao
Oh wow the front of those pokemon cards looked real the back was a dead give away tho. I just started my own channel opening yugioh and pokemon packs, on my video yesterday i thought some of the newer cards where fake might send them to you :)
The font on the pokemon cards is also a dead giveaway. It's taller and thinner than what would be on a genuine card. The ultra rare Pikachu and Zekrom is also missing the texturing that appears on newer ultra rares.
Another detail on the Vampiric Tutor in particular, on the back of the card top left corner, there is now white spec/spot. If you look at any other mtg card back you will find the white spec/spot. 10:15
You of all people should be more open to more professional ways of identifying fake cards. Buying cards worth thousand based off instinct and feel is risky.
Petina is the word you're looking for Rudy
Thats like buying a 20 yard car. Did you lift it up on a hoist and check the undercarriage? Or is the frame or sub frame rotten and the wheels are about to fall off lol!
"...Paying in cryptos, gettin kids hosed...' would the real rudy shady please stand up, please stand up!!
Every single m20 card I cracked from packs is shinier than the cards you have there. They're thick too.
Literally the second you threw down those pokemon cards I know they were fake. Pokemon has never used that type of vertical foil.
Learned something. Thank you!
Those rubbery Pokemon cards are probably water resistant. Upgrade!!
How long till secret lair fakes
Every time I watch a Hopes and Dreams video I hope check on my hopes and dreams in their slabs just to double check man. Rudy scaring me.
Why can’t Chinese nerds make better proxies than I did when I worked at FedEx business
Touched my magic cards through the fence
So you don't think there will be a time that could counterfeit will be indistinguishable from genuine cards
I pulled a blightsteel out of a pack, oooh shes minty
That font on Vampiric Tutor on the bottom half just doesn't look nowhere near the real deal.
also you should have basement troll t shirts... would be amazing
Thank you for centralizing evil. Makes it so much easier!
I thought you said Hoax and Dreams ':D
It's easy to forget little kids play and love these games like us. Its messed up people trying to scam them.
(👎👎👍👍👍 ÷ 2 x 3.14159)🌮 ÷ 2 = MTG
2001, fml those were the times! All modern cards look and feel plasticky to me, low quality of print and inks...
The smell of pack fresh newer cards is disgusting.
Can we get a how to tell if your taco is fake/hard/floppy video?
legend, canadian first
Dang RUclips didn't give me a notification for this video
That got more gloss than Rudy's hair after 3 weeks of no showers !
Can anybody explain to me why the counterfeiters can get very close with everything except the card stock?
because WotC uses a proprietary cardstock made only for them. Nobody else is allowed to use it and the reciepe is unknown to most.
It is a matter of time before they do get it right. I mean WotC card stock is made by people in a factory using processes that can be replicated. It is only a matter of time if the financial incentive is there. For now, the counterfeiters can get 90% of the profits by only working on the printing. If they ever need to focus on the card stock to make the money, good bye Irene.
Yawn people blowing money on cards. At least by art.
Rudy when I grow up I wanna be just like you... Minus the Stupid Hair Cut & Fake Beard...
Just have the floppy taco's, smell cards obsessively and a great sense of humor.