Good video. One thing I was wondering about was whether that scene with the blind kids was really a fantasy. While the scene itself is shot like a fantasy, we see the kids at the end attending Dickie's funeral.
You know what? You're right, I remember that now. I wondered what was up with those kids but I never connected it with the beep baseball thing. Good catch, no pun intended 😅
Maybe it was a fantasy to Dickie because it was so obvious it was his good deed to cover up his bad deeds that it felt like a fantasy to divulge it. It's the same logic he imprints on Tony on how to reconcile doing evil things. So he did it all for real, but getting credit for it seems fake to him.
Not every problem somebody has with the movie has to do with petty shit. The acting, the continuity errors, and the story itself are all kinda shit man.
@@jacobadam6804 some of the continuity errors can genuinely be explained as “in universe” as was said in this video, but i agree there was some sloppiness in the execution of the film that’s hard to ignore.
I love the idea of Sal Moltisanti being the movie's version of Jennifer Melfi, since both Ray Liotta and Lorraine Bracco were in Goodfellas, which The Sopranos takes direct inspiration from
I don't see why Chase changed show canon like he did. He went from Johnny Boy (living in an upper floor apartment) coming home the same night the cops arrested him with nothing coming of it to Johnny Boy (living in a house) not even getting out on bail before being sentenced to a four year prison term. I get Chase wanted to establish a reason for the bond between Tony and Dickie (and anither reason for the rivalry between Dickie and Juniot) but it seemed a bit much to me. Also, Johnny had already taken over Satriales by 1967 in the movie. I understand memory can be a tricky thing but I doubt Tony's childhood memories would have been that jumbled.
He did but it’s also true that Vito Genovese (who took over the Luciano crime family and then it became named after him) was close with Mussolini. He allegedly had an anti fascist newspaper man called tresca killed in New York for example, using carmine galante.
@@johnmccarron8234 Luciano was integral through Operation Husky in helping the US against Italy in the war. The US ensured that the mafia thrived in Italy in place of fascism. Even then, Genovese aided the US against Italy in 1943 and only came back to Italy (initially) in fear of facing murder charges in the US. It is not a stretch to say that without the help of the US military, the mafia in southern Italy would not have survived.
Even if I don’t agree, you explain your points well. Really good analysis and I think you have a deep understanding of the motivations behind the show and film. My problem with the film was the execution of the ideas they were going for. None of the plot threads had enough time to be fully fleshed out like they deserved because of how much they attempted to show (probably stemming from Chase’s dislike of overly long films). So while we get a bit of everything, we never get enough to truly invest in anybody’s story. It felt like everyone got the bare bones of an arc, the bare bones of a character.
The movie may be far from perfect and I too have some criticisms but a lot of people missed the point that Tony was supposed to be an unreliable narrator and that plenty of things happened differently than he remembers. Like no shit Tony didn’t have the full picture and glamorized the stuff he saw. Every gangster wants to be seen as some Robin Hood godfather type when they’re really a bunch of selfish thieves. Lot of people expected Dickie, Johnny boy, and Junior to be super-human levels of badass and not just a bunch of regular flawed guys. Especially, Junior, who a lot of people expected to be some kind of gangbanger who took no shit like Johnny boy and not the grumpy petty little man he actually was. Lot of fans were expecting some comic book movie where they were kicking ass and taking names. The point was Tony was a lot more like AJ than he’d like to admit and that was a major theme in the OG series. Did people forget that? I would of loved to have seen Tony, Jackie, and Sil rob Feech’s card game but perhaps if they make another movie it will show Tony in his 20s/30s. Also I think the literal and figurative execution of Dickie should of been done better. Like give Junior more reasons than just “he laughed at me” to want to kill Dickie. I get it harkens back to Junior saying “if this were the old days there’d be no asking for permission”, but still give them more conflict and maybe have dickie do something that really crossed the line with Junior.
@@secondcomingofbast9908 A little older, sure. But in the movie he's the same age as Paulie, and is already a young adult while Tony is a child. That's definitely a retcon
Sil was supposed to be about 5 years older than Tony. Kind of a bridge between John’s crew and his and Sil was someone who worked for Tony’s dad although he was still maybe 10 years younger than Paulie. The only time they messed with that in the show was when Ralph once said that Sil was in a junior crew with him, Jackie and Tony. That was the mistake timeline wise. Did Sil look like a guy in his early 20s in the movie??? Probably not but with premature hair loss guys can look older more quickly.
@@robertgaumont5446Silvio’s hair was real in the series though. Look at his hair in the scene where he has a panic attack and is taken out of his house on a stretcher
22:00 something people don't speak much about is that solely because he had those pills he went down as a drug addict later down the line. Chris talks to Tony later and tells him to admit that dick was just a junkie. When throughout the film dick never uses any drugs nor is it even hinted at remotely that he did.
When I first started watching your videos I routinely rolled my eyes at some of the points you make. As I’ve watched more I’ve started to come around a little bit. Very insightful commentary. Good shit. Love the sopranos vids.
Very well-made video. You vocalized how I felt about the movie and didn’t just harp on expectations like so many have done. Too many people are stopping themselves from really seeing this film for what it is because they set impossible standards for it.
I really appreciate these points. In my opinion though I was hoping we’d get more sopranos content from HBO. They can still tell a story, they can still say so much.
Its a pretty bad movie. Not only because of fan expectations (seriosuly fan expectations seem to be one of the few considerations they had in mind; the movie is plagued with horrible and cringy fan-service); overall the performances and the dialogues are very poorly executed, as well as the characters development. Liotta's double role in this movie is the epitome of the unnecessary; doesn't help or add anything other than including a big Goodfellas star in order to certify the "mobbedness" of the movie. I dont mind how much political content and/or commentary David Chase is supposedly trying to put into the story (allegedly, because at this point i feel that he was so burned out with the whole project that he didn''t care anymore.), the delivery looks and feels like a very bad written collection of clichés/sketches about italian americans and the mafia. Doesn't work neither as a drama, a thriller, a comedy or a straight parody of itself. ITs a complete mess. I 've explained profusely in another comment why i think this is.
Junior had Dickie killed because Harold proved capable and had the connection to Frank Lucas. It was everything to do with business, not personal. Everything else is just to misdirect the attention of the viewer to not notice that Dickie was being set up. Just like in Season 1 Junior wanted to kill Tony for running things behind Junior’s back, NOT because of the gossip around Junior’s love life.
Great video. I just wished they would have made this into a mini series instead of a movie. It would have helped with the execution problems that Many Saints had.
I am one of the few people to admit that I liked the film after I saw it. Sure, I was expecting the card game takedown, but I guess will have to wait for the series prequel. But, I enjoyed it for the fact that it was an actual Soprano's-ish movie and not mere TV episodes. I do think someone should have convinced Scorsese to have his hand in it, though.
Im fairly far left politically, I think we'd agree on majority prescriptive politics with the creator of the video. But part of the genius of Sopranos was that it could be read in multiple ways and had a political message w/o hitting the viewer over the head with it. Many Saints was too on the nose, made it less compelling and kind of blunted some of the other narratives/motifs that the show had
I kind of reject the notion that political messaging in films should be covert or subtle. I mean if you choose to front load the politics too much it can be annoying and preachy but there’s still tons of well made, blatantly political art out there (Parasite, Bojack Horseman, Hurt Locker, pretty much every modern Clint Eastwood film ect). Honestly this notion that you need to dance around sharing your political opinions in the art you make to make it less gauche is kinda a psyop imo.
Your videos are good as hell, bro. This is a rare instance where I must praise the algo. I subbed after watching just one of your Sopranos vids. Keep it up, man. You’re spot on.
I cant think of the last time I watched a video on RUclips and came away with a new way of looking at something I had already formed an opinion on. Great channel...this video was an eye opener.
I liked the movie well enough, because I like the themes that it wishes to convey (and does convey, very well) But that's also my biggest issue in a way: it's just a feature-length reprise of what The Sopranos has been telling us for 86 episodes, only mashed into a smaller runtime thus robbing it of the subtlety that made a lot of The Sopranos so fun to pay attention to. So it's still good stuff, but it's good because it's the same thing over again (albeit this is, in a lot of ways, a point that both the show and the film emphasise).
I completely agree with this, throughout the video, I was nodding my head agreeing with what was said but then I thought 'didnt they already do this in the series though, but better?' The thing I'll give the movie is that it dealt with its characters of colour much better than the series did
Didn't care for the movie, it wasn't even a good mob movie. The music for the time period was way out of sequence. Tony Soprano supposedly born around 1960, shows a 16 year old Tony while a song from early 1970 is playing on Soul Train. Excessive violence in places that didn't call for excessive violence. Young Silvio was over acted. Disjointed and all out of place, I can't believe Chase put his stamp of approval on this.
I disagree that the acting overall was good. A lot of the characters seemed like they were playing satirized versions of their sopranos counterparts. None were more clear than uncle juniors character.
@8.24 - the look on Dickie's face reminds me of the scene in "Made In America" when Butchie is walking through what's left of Little Italy and realizes he's wandered into Chinatown.
Listen, let's all be honest and stop making excuses for David Chase, this movie sucked. If this movie came out on its own, with no series fan base behind it, it would have flopped and gone straight to being shown on You Tube for free. It was sold as a Sopranos prequel, made for the die hard fans of the series who remain fans despite the series ending years ago. That being said, prequel's typically lead up to the point where to original film or show begins, not 30 years prior. We got glimpses into Tony's young adulthood, but the movie focused more on the riots and the characters from this area of the plot that no one cares about. Considering it was made by the same people who made the Sopranos, it was boring, contained several obvious inaccuracies, and simply wasn't what it was advertised to be. It was a big let down.
Thoughts on the fact Mussolini was against the mafia and that the US used the Italian mafia to take down Mussolini? Or are you going to ignore this massive oversight?
@@MarcoGeeWS you made it sound like they had some kind of direct involvement in actually taking Mussolini down. But that’s not what that operation was. The Mafia in the US is not exactly the same as the mafia in Sicily…and the mafia in Sicily didn’t have anything to do with taking him down. So…what is it you’re trying to even get at in the first place?
@@opaljk4835 what are you trying to say? Was Mussolini pro mafia? Was the mafia pro Mussolini? And did the US use the mafia in American in operation underworld in efforts against Mussolini?
I thought I was the only other person that saw the beauty and the majesty in this movie! Thank you. Just wish people didn't Bash it just because it didn't live up to their thirst of wanting to see a mob story of Tony doing Tony things. I want more from David Chase, he is great but I'm not sure if I want anything else dealing with The Sopranos Story. It's a shame the at Chase doesn't own the property and it's up to HBO. Anyways, 4$ a pound.
Beauty and Majesty? I'm a huge Sopranos fan and went into this movie expecting a movie. Well, it was a movie, one that sucked. It was boring, focused on a localized issue in the riots that simply couldn't carry a film, and the younger version of the series characters felt like bad impersonations. The only exception being Michael Gandolfini.
@@j.m.5744 The movie sucked, but cmon how can you not mention Vera Farmiga as young Livia? She was fantastic. I enjoyed John Bernthal as Johnny Boy but Joseph Siravo is still the best. The rest of the movie can fuck off.
@@j.m.5744genuinely one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Even if it wasn’t using the sopranos name that it bastardized it would still be hot garbage.
Needed to be a mini series, with fixed timelines, with christopher as a kid, with Tony's first kill, maybe we didn't need to hit all of the "oh they said this in the sopranos so we need to do it" stuff, but then it makes me ask why they hit the varsity athlete line which I thought was a tad pandery
I thought it felt rushed and wasn't sure what direction it wanted to go in. I didn't care for it. Although Michael Gandolfini was the one bright spot. He's got a great career ahead of him.
Great video. I really did not like this movie initially, but after hearing your prespective, I have a newfound appreciation for it. I think I'll watch it again with your points in mind. Thanks.
I agreed with a lot of your points, and I do think that the movie is not nearly as bad as some people say it is. But, I cannot disagree more about the acting. The guy who played Junior had none of Dominic Chianese's charisma and Jon Bernthal was not impressive at all. And then there's Silvio.. I really hated how the guy seemed to be playing a cartoon character based on Silvio. I know that Stevie Van Zandt's Silvio is a bit of a caricature himself, but one would imagine that he developed those mannerisms over time. It seemed like Magaro was overdoing it wayyy too much and it almost ruined the movie for me. I can't emphasize how much I hated the way they portrayed Silvio. I usually love your videos, especially your Sopranos vids, but I cannot disagree more with you about some of the acting.. John Magaro was awful.
Damn you worms hole, very convincing video. I may need to re-watch the movie with a more open mind. also- I love your channel, I share your who killed tony soprano video with anyone who’ll listen.
Interesting take on 'Mother's Little Helper.' I thought Tony was about to say 'It's about getting old,' but stopped himself because he knew it would make things worse.
The German Nazis didnt suddenly drop all their nazi beliefs after WW2 and pretend that they were never nazis in the first place. They might have denied supporting him to avoid being prosecuted, but they didnt do it out of shame or embarrassment or anything like that. Most were fiercely loyal Nazis right up until their dying day, decades after the war. Deradicalization is a long and difficult process. And if someone DOES turn against the fascist movement, that's a good thing. Not something to be sneered at. They might be embarrassed of their past and want to keep it to themselves. Thats reasonable enough.
Thinking Christopher narrating from beyond that grave was a good move made me stop listening to this already frustrating video. That choice contradicts the ending and so many of the themes surrounding death that that original show establishes. It was so beyond corny and this whole movie was a useless meandering mess with social and political commentary completely irrelevant to what a Sopranos prequel should even be focused on
@@TheWormsHole I did and I also understand proper pacing and character development that this film completely lacked, not to mention the countless continuity errors
You missed the point about Tony talking about how his dads thing was dignified, tight knit, reliable, honorable. This is how most kids view their parents and grandparents when they get to be their parents age. Also Tony saw a completely different world as a kid, like all kids. As you get older, your knowledge about how the world actually works increases and with increased knowledge, becomes increased stress, burden and despair, you begin looking at your once bright and interesting world as disgusting and evil and the people around you as different, no morals, not honorable, like you remember about your parents era. You should have left that part out of your video, because you completely missed the point of what Tony saw, felt, and remembers as a kid and seeing his dad's thing operate.
Yah I don't really get the whole white rage thing. I mean we must have watched different movies, and I believe the excess rage and violence is obviously a symptom of It being a TV show about the Mob and violence and rage are good plot motivators and entertaining to watch. I really don't believe white rage is a thing, because every race gets enraged and upset. I just think you hate white people and are trying to twist reality to fit into ideology and your world view instead of shaping your world view by reality. I mean the whole idea that individuals fail to succeed based entirely off of systemic oppression doesn't track with many real world examples and is harmful to the individuals themselves. Your robbing them of personal responsibility and literally stealing their hope by instilling the poisonous idea that success is inaccessible to those who started in essentially poverty. As someone who has overcome homelessness, disabilities, discrimination, poverty, and has lived in majority African American areas of extreme poverty I have seen first hand the effect that culture can have on success. The ironic factor is that possibly the most racist group of people, rednecks share striking similarities with the poverty stricken African Americans of inner cities in important cultural aspects. Both are more likely to fall back on government programs, have improper ways of speaking, have low trust in government and police, have higher rates of violence and a respect for violence, have higher acceptance of teenage pregnancy, have a deep pride for their culture, and Have an extreme disdain for traditional educational routes. These cultural factor's don't have roots in slavery, but have roots in all of southern culture inside the antebellum south. Prior to modern times inside of the south extreme violence, disdain for education, sexual immorality, and a deep pride for the culture of this time period were common place in the south. I read one account for this time period where white southern men would routinely fight "rough and tumble" which involving stabbing, eye gouging, ripping off of the testicles and biting. Despite the fact that dueling became illegal in this time period after already being illegal up north for 30 years men would routinely duel over honor, women, disrespect, and These men would face no jail time for these actions with southern juries unable to convict men for these crimes for if their honor had been insulted they would do the same. Famously men in this time period would impregnate unmarried women and be forced to marry them over the barrel of a shotgun before she started to seriously show. Honestly I believe rap music is the perfect example of how every single negative and terrible aspect of ghetto culture is not only common place, but revered. Violence, drug use, confrontations with cops, lack of education, fucking bitches, and selling drugs are Romanized in these songs. similarly in country music negative aspects of redneck culture are highly valued with constantly drinking alcohol being the main one, almost every single song contains many verses about drinking, having sex with women when your both very young, and blue collar work being another negative aspect of country music. Not because their is something wrong with blue collar work, but because it represents a general attitude of lack of value being placed on education. I earlier mentioned real world examples and I wasn't talking about individuals in these groups referred to above, because those individuals could easily be explained by being far outside the bell curve. I am talking about the Chinese immigrants in Indonesia, the Armenian populations in Lebanon, Korean immigrants in America, Jewish immigrants inside pre ww2 Europe. All of these groups have several things in common extreme discrimination With the Chinese immigrants in Indonesia not being allowed to hold certain jobs, live in certain neighborhoods, having economic preference given to the native Indonesians, and facing racial violence on multiple occasions including lynching's. Regardless of this discrimination all of the above groups had three distinct traits that lead them to ultimately overcome discrimination and rise to be a wealthy minority inside every single nation mentioned above. The first is a high value placed on education to the point where parent's would sacrifice everything in order to send their children to college and achieving success meant becoming a doctor or a engineer or a lawyer. Secondly despite facing discrimination under the law and from peace officers they had an intense sense of lawful behavior with violence and crime in general being highly shunned within the community. Finally they had a strong middleman culture and mercantile culture with many of these immigrants sacrificing everything not only for their business but family businesses as well . The number one factor for success of a ethnic group is not some imaginary privileges, but rather the value their culture places on education. “Most people want to change the world to improve their lives, but the world they need to change first is the one inside themselves.”- John C. Maxwell The result of telling oppresed individuals that they cannot succeed
Guy trying to make his twitter-poisoned paranoia about 'reactionaries' sound big and important cant even use the words 'objectively' 'designed' right 😂
I think a lot of your extrapolations are probably correct but my issue is just how much you have to extrapolate. Nothing is set up. We never see Dickie's mother being abused and it's not gestured at in any way, Dickie just says it, so him killing his father over that just seems odd because we don't feel that rage that he has at that moment. We don't really feel anything as far as the relationship between those two characters goes, and that's a problem throughout the film for me. Nothing is very fleshed out. Are people really this impulsive and hot-blooded in real life? I'm sure of it, but they don't make for compelling characters in a movie because we can't make sense of what they do, and I think that's important, even when we don't agree with their actions. In the end Dickie is just a hothead, who will kill or maim on a hair-trigger which would be fine for a more minor character but as our protagonist? Didn't make it for me. But, like I said, I think a lot of your analysis is good, particularly about what the movie is telling us RE: the racial attitudes of the people involved. Like the course correction everyone seems to take when history doesn't go their way. The monstrous views remain. Good stuff as always.
You bring some valid points and generally speaking from other videos of yours that i've seen i can gather that you are a kind guy of a very benevolent nature, who more often than not tries not to be very agressive or critize too much whenever you make an assesment of anything. And i can empathize with that. That being said, this movie is horrible no matter from which perspective you try to approach it. And i dont think this is gratuitous. I've read in several places that Chase has rejected time after time to make any more Sopranos-related shows or movies. Thats understandable cause the show is whole as it is, and adding anything new to it would only function as fan service but on the other hand it would be a BIG disservice to the show itself. And this has been made abundantly clear now. It is my understanding that Chase has been trying to make a movie about the Newark racial riots for a long time now. But apparently, many producers and investors would only give the Ok to the project if a great chunk of the movie featured a narrative revolving on the Sopranos, feeling that that would be the only way to make it profitable and marketeable to the fans. My personal take on this is that the whole thing is a trollish installment. Its an antic, a "fuck you" directed on the industry and on any fans yearning for more Sopranos contents. I cannot conceive that Chase, as brilliant, creative, subtle and genius that the is, wouldn't have created such a ridiculous, soulless, unartistic, depth-lacking film if not to demonstrate that even the notion of another Sopranos flick is completely absurd. I mean, just look at the ending of the Sopranos!! Its a total subversion of classic storytelling. Why would the author of such a masterpiece participate in its desecration. Chase is trolling everybody; thats the only way i can see this movie as a brilliant creation. The only purpose it can have for it to be considered good. This movie is literally a joke in itself. There's no other way of explaining David Chase taking such a humongous shit on his own work. Either that or he is completely demented.
Outstanding video. Seems like everyone rushed to shit all over this film when it first came out and yes it’s not executed nearly as well as the series is and probably would’ve been better served had it been a mini series to flesh out everyone’s arcs more organically. But Even tho it’s information overload in some ways I still found it to be enjoyable and consistent with their future selves and exploring certain elements from characters we’d heard about but never seen.
@memes and funny stuff naw dawg your Movie appreciation degree doesn’t make 1960s Italians greet an African American entering there club , and many other subtle way the film made itself look like a dickhead , go talk with a girl with all that
One little note: Mothers Little Helper isn’t about Valium to get through the day but rather Adderall or amphetamines. I know it’s stupid to point that out but I think it matters because Valium is more used to drop out and amphetamines are more for “…to help them get through there busy day”…the lyrics do also say “…you can tranquilize your mind” but if you’ve ever taken adderall for an extended period of time then it does exactly that. But damn man once again you hit it out the park. I fuckin love your videos!!
This may have been covered previously, but im confused about Christopher's mother? I know its Joanne in the series, but in the movie Dicky kills his wife, (Chris's mother) was that his biological mum all along? And Joanne is his adopted mother?
The take I was waiting for, every review I just keep seeing the word "woke" used to tarnish the movie and suggest it has been ruined. When race and the hypocrisy of former immigrants was addressed on so many levels in the show but done with more nuance as the format allowed for that. Again, great video.
You and I had very different interpretations of the scene in the principal's office. There are many ways a mother can show care and tenderness without getting into bed with and snuggling up to her son. Toxic mothers tend to romanticize their relationships with their sons, and while the incident may not have counted as molestation, I believe it would have warped their relationship. The boy's father was away. Would she have done it with Johnny there? Did she deny having even read the book because she knew the story would reveal her inappropriate behaviour? Or did she genuinely forget, because the action was meant to remedy her own loneliness? Either way, it would explain her and Tony's relationship, and Tony's attitudes toward sex and women, in-general. Even though it was a warm memory for Tony, I thought this was fucked.
Ha I watched this with my mom and dad while on vacation (all big Sopranos viewers) and 100% this is how my mom reacted to that line...she had the exact same sentiment.
While I appreciate your analysis and love your videos, I paused at 30 seconds in to write this comment and just correct you, in the nicest possible way, as a long time Sopranos fan who thinks it is the greatest piece of pop culture created and consumed in this century (I know it started in the last one), but the Many Saints of Newark was an absolutely terrible movie. Just God awful. From the coloration (why is it so gray and misty in Newark--it looks like the movie is set in Seattle) to Tony pinkie-swearing with a corpse...this was just...bad. It was bad. I'm sorry. I said it! It was bad. Watching it didn't even feel like something from real life; when it was over I felt like I had a bad dream--a bad dream featuring some bizarro world version of characters from The Sopranos.
I enjoyed this video but the main problem with this movie was pacing. It was really too jammed up in the last 30 mins. Give us more of the time of Tony and Dickie apart. Make it hard for us to live with too. It died on the vine.
I know, I'm late to the gabagool party, but it is what it is and that's that. This should have been a series. A whole season with built up with the riots in the middle. Yeah, I wouldn't use Michael Gandolfini till the middle. Because in the first part is just a little kid trying to understand what is happening around him. So we could have more shit about Dickie Moltisanti and Harrold doing business and being friendly, maybe buddies even, while in front of the other Dagos Dickie treats him differently. I like how you put focus on Dickie's pseudo progessive act. The story beats can be the same, but they need to be flashed out more. Why not having Dickie hunting down that crew, like mentioned in the show? (Not alone, he does it with Harrold for some reason, but people pretend he did it alone or something) And when the riots come, maybe the mobster could ally with Anthony Imperiale in some way. Mobster always pretend to be for order in the neighbourhood, and values and all that. Another Soprano channel had nice ideas how to include Sellman and Maurice into the riot storyline. The Riots should be at least two episodes. In the movie it's rushed. Just like the killing of Hollywood Dick Moltisanti and taking care of the body. Felt so out of place. Specially because the deaths connected to the real Riots are counted, let's say. Felt strange to have a dead mobster added on the fictional list, and nobody cares? No consequences? It's the mafia! Maybe Dickie could blame one member of Harrold's crew or something. The looks Hollywood Dick gave Harrold, maybe they could have a scene where he is openly racist to him or one of his guys. And Sil shouldn't be that established already. No need for him and Jackie to rob a card game with lil' Punk Tone at that point. Richie should be around, maybe giving Jackie shit after the ice cream truck stunt he pulled with Artie and Tone. Jackie shouldn't call Tone 'Joe Jerkoff'. That's more a Ralphie thing to do. And Carmella should be on Dickie's radar. They are related. I don't know. Better a show than a prequel movie that might ruin all chances to get another show.
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Good video. One thing I was wondering about was whether that scene with the blind kids was really a fantasy. While the scene itself is shot like a fantasy, we see the kids at the end attending Dickie's funeral.
You know what? You're right, I remember that now. I wondered what was up with those kids but I never connected it with the beep baseball thing. Good catch, no pun intended 😅
I still feel like it had to be, too weird to be true. 🤣
Maybe it was a fantasy to Dickie because it was so obvious it was his good deed to cover up his bad deeds that it felt like a fantasy to divulge it. It's the same logic he imprints on Tony on how to reconcile doing evil things.
So he did it all for real, but getting credit for it seems fake to him.
“That fateful night Tony fell into a vat of radioactive marinara sauce and became The Soprano” I’m literally shaking and crying
I’m glad someone actually gave an analysis to this movie instead of bitching about Sil’s hair
Or jumping on the "It was like an SNL sketch" bullshit.
Remember there are 2 fan bases for the sopranos:
The ones who get the series, and the others that don't.
YES!
Not every problem somebody has with the movie has to do with petty shit. The acting, the continuity errors, and the story itself are all kinda shit man.
@@jacobadam6804 some of the continuity errors can genuinely be explained as “in universe” as was said in this video, but i agree there was some sloppiness in the execution of the film that’s hard to ignore.
"radioactive marinara waste" this wormhole is more creative than Spielberg. Good video!!
The Many Saints, whatever happened there.
Whatever happened there???? Whatever happened there..!!!?
I’ll tell you what happened, this piece of shits cousin directed a decisive movie
The movie..... God rest its soul.
It died on the vine.
It petered out...
I love the idea of Sal Moltisanti being the movie's version of Jennifer Melfi, since both Ray Liotta and Lorraine Bracco were in Goodfellas, which The Sopranos takes direct inspiration from
I don't see why Chase changed show canon like he did. He went from Johnny Boy (living in an upper floor apartment) coming home the same night the cops arrested him with nothing coming of it to Johnny Boy (living in a house) not even getting out on bail before being sentenced to a four year prison term.
I get Chase wanted to establish a reason for the bond between Tony and Dickie (and anither reason for the rivalry between Dickie and Juniot) but it seemed a bit much to me. Also, Johnny had already taken over Satriales by 1967 in the movie. I understand memory can be a tricky thing but I doubt Tony's childhood memories would have been that jumbled.
Mussolini literally cracked down on the mafia when he took power in Italy
He did but it’s also true that Vito Genovese (who took over the Luciano crime family and then it became named after him) was close with Mussolini. He allegedly had an anti fascist newspaper man called tresca killed in New York for example, using carmine galante.
@@johnmccarron8234 Luciano was integral through Operation Husky in helping the US against Italy in the war. The US ensured that the mafia thrived in Italy in place of fascism. Even then, Genovese aided the US against Italy in 1943 and only came back to Italy (initially) in fear of facing murder charges in the US. It is not a stretch to say that without the help of the US military, the mafia in southern Italy would not have survived.
Glad to see someone else connecting the politics behind the show. "Made in America" was the perfect final wink.
The many (Molti) saints (Santi) of Newark
Even if I don’t agree, you explain your points well. Really good analysis and I think you have a deep understanding of the motivations behind the show and film.
My problem with the film was the execution of the ideas they were going for. None of the plot threads had enough time to be fully fleshed out like they deserved because of how much they attempted to show (probably stemming from Chase’s dislike of overly long films).
So while we get a bit of everything, we never get enough to truly invest in anybody’s story. It felt like everyone got the bare bones of an arc, the bare bones of a character.
This definitely would’ve benefited from being a mini series or two parter.
My people
You know who had an arc?
Noah.
The movie may be far from perfect and I too have some criticisms but a lot of people missed the point that Tony was supposed to be an unreliable narrator and that plenty of things happened differently than he remembers. Like no shit Tony didn’t have the full picture and glamorized the stuff he saw. Every gangster wants to be seen as some Robin Hood godfather type when they’re really a bunch of selfish thieves. Lot of people expected Dickie, Johnny boy, and Junior to be super-human levels of badass and not just a bunch of regular flawed guys. Especially, Junior, who a lot of people expected to be some kind of gangbanger who took no shit like Johnny boy and not the grumpy petty little man he actually was. Lot of fans were expecting some comic book movie where they were kicking ass and taking names. The point was Tony was a lot more like AJ than he’d like to admit and that was a major theme in the OG series. Did people forget that? I would of loved to have seen Tony, Jackie, and Sil rob Feech’s card game but perhaps if they make another movie it will show Tony in his 20s/30s. Also I think the literal and figurative execution of Dickie should of been done better. Like give Junior more reasons than just “he laughed at me” to want to kill Dickie. I get it harkens back to Junior saying “if this were the old days there’d be no asking for permission”, but still give them more conflict and maybe have dickie do something that really crossed the line with Junior.
What bothered me is how Silvio looked way older than Paulie.
That and the fact Sil and Pussy are shown to be way older than Tony, despite the fact that they're clearly around the same age in the show
@@toreyflint4727 Pussy was always a little older than Tony in the series. Sil's age in the film though was a definite retcon.
@@secondcomingofbast9908 A little older, sure. But in the movie he's the same age as Paulie, and is already a young adult while Tony is a child. That's definitely a retcon
Sil was supposed to be about 5 years older than Tony. Kind of a bridge between John’s crew and his and Sil was someone who worked for Tony’s dad although he was still maybe 10 years younger than Paulie. The only time they messed with that in the show was when Ralph once said that Sil was in a junior crew with him, Jackie and Tony. That was the mistake timeline wise. Did Sil look like a guy in his early 20s in the movie??? Probably not but with premature hair loss guys can look older more quickly.
@@robertgaumont5446Silvio’s hair was real in the series though. Look at his hair in the scene where he has a panic attack and is taken out of his house on a stretcher
I thought the movie was just okay, some ups and some downs, but you sure do have a way of changing my perspective on things. Good stuff.
22:00 something people don't speak much about is that solely because he had those pills he went down as a drug addict later down the line. Chris talks to Tony later and tells him to admit that dick was just a junkie. When throughout the film dick never uses any drugs nor is it even hinted at remotely that he did.
Wow. I've thought about that.
RIP Ray Liotta. A final performance of sheer class.
he's in Cocaine Bear, which is coming out this year. Probably took a long time to edit, which is why it's rleasing this long after his death.
When I first started watching your videos I routinely rolled my eyes at some of the points you make. As I’ve watched more I’ve started to come around a little bit. Very insightful commentary. Good shit. Love the sopranos vids.
Very well-made video. You vocalized how I felt about the movie and didn’t just harp on expectations like so many have done. Too many people are stopping themselves from really seeing this film for what it is because they set impossible standards for it.
Worm's Hole, always droppin BANGERS YO
I really appreciate these points. In my opinion though I was hoping we’d get more sopranos content from HBO. They can still tell a story, they can still say so much.
Says he’s not gonna get political immediately gets political
Its a pretty bad movie. Not only because of fan expectations (seriosuly fan expectations seem to be one of the few considerations they had in mind; the movie is plagued with horrible and cringy fan-service); overall the performances and the dialogues are very poorly executed, as well as the characters development. Liotta's double role in this movie is the epitome of the unnecessary; doesn't help or add anything other than including a big Goodfellas star in order to certify the "mobbedness" of the movie. I dont mind how much political content and/or commentary David Chase is supposedly trying to put into the story (allegedly, because at this point i feel that he was so burned out with the whole project that he didn''t care anymore.), the delivery looks and feels like a very bad written collection of clichés/sketches about italian americans and the mafia. Doesn't work neither as a drama, a thriller, a comedy or a straight parody of itself. ITs a complete mess. I 've explained profusely in another comment why i think this is.
Junior had Dickie killed because Harold proved capable and had the connection to Frank Lucas. It was everything to do with business, not personal. Everything else is just to misdirect the attention of the viewer to not notice that Dickie was being set up. Just like in Season 1 Junior wanted to kill Tony for running things behind Junior’s back, NOT because of the gossip around Junior’s love life.
I mean it’s all connected, no? It all contributes to it, some things more than others
Great video. I just wished they would have made this into a mini series instead of a movie. It would have helped with the execution problems that Many Saints had.
Yes! I've been waiting on this, I really love your Sopranos videos!
I am one of the few people to admit that I liked the film after I saw it. Sure, I was expecting the card game takedown, but I guess will have to wait for the series prequel. But, I enjoyed it for the fact that it was an actual Soprano's-ish movie and not mere TV episodes. I do think someone should have convinced Scorsese to have his hand in it, though.
Same. It wasn’t what I expected but I enjoyed it.
Im fairly far left politically, I think we'd agree on majority prescriptive politics with the creator of the video. But part of the genius of Sopranos was that it could be read in multiple ways and had a political message w/o hitting the viewer over the head with it. Many Saints was too on the nose, made it less compelling and kind of blunted some of the other narratives/motifs that the show had
Agreed
I don’t think op would agree with you… which is why he made his sus video essay :|
I kind of reject the notion that political messaging in films should be covert or subtle. I mean if you choose to front load the politics too much it can be annoying and preachy but there’s still tons of well made, blatantly political art out there (Parasite, Bojack Horseman, Hurt Locker, pretty much every modern Clint Eastwood film ect). Honestly this notion that you need to dance around sharing your political opinions in the art you make to make it less gauche is kinda a psyop imo.
Your videos are good as hell, bro. This is a rare instance where I must praise the algo. I subbed after watching just one of your Sopranos vids. Keep it up, man. You’re spot on.
Too much politics
I cant think of the last time I watched a video on RUclips and came away with a new way of looking at something I had already formed an opinion on. Great channel...this video was an eye opener.
Was looking for a review of a movie, not politics
I liked the movie well enough, because I like the themes that it wishes to convey (and does convey, very well)
But that's also my biggest issue in a way: it's just a feature-length reprise of what The Sopranos has been telling us for 86 episodes, only mashed into a smaller runtime thus robbing it of the subtlety that made a lot of The Sopranos so fun to pay attention to.
So it's still good stuff, but it's good because it's the same thing over again (albeit this is, in a lot of ways, a point that both the show and the film emphasise).
I completely agree with this, throughout the video, I was nodding my head agreeing with what was said but then I thought 'didnt they already do this in the series though, but better?' The thing I'll give the movie is that it dealt with its characters of colour much better than the series did
Didn't care for the movie, it wasn't even a good mob movie. The music for the time period was way out of sequence. Tony Soprano supposedly born around 1960, shows a 16 year old Tony while a song from early 1970 is playing on Soul Train. Excessive violence in places that didn't call for excessive violence. Young Silvio was over acted. Disjointed and all out of place, I can't believe Chase put his stamp of approval on this.
Old Silvio was a cartoon character too lol
Agreed
I find your closed minded explanation of conservative vs progressive values hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
Bro chill out we get ur an anthropology major
LOVE this analysis
Thanks. Made me appreciate the movie on a whole another level.
I disagree that the acting overall was good. A lot of the characters seemed like they were playing satirized versions of their sopranos counterparts. None were more clear than uncle juniors character.
Sil’s and paulie’s felt like one of Tony’s fever dreams
I wanted to see it just for Joey Diaz.
Damn you got hella political when u said u were not trying to get political 😂 hope they cure your tds soon bro
@8.24 - the look on Dickie's face reminds me of the scene in "Made In America" when Butchie is walking through what's left of Little Italy and realizes he's wandered into Chinatown.
Listen, let's all be honest and stop making excuses for David Chase, this movie sucked. If this movie came out on its own, with no series fan base behind it, it would have flopped and gone straight to being shown on You Tube for free. It was sold as a Sopranos prequel, made for the die hard fans of the series who remain fans despite the series ending years ago. That being said, prequel's typically lead up to the point where to original film or show begins, not 30 years prior. We got glimpses into Tony's young adulthood, but the movie focused more on the riots and the characters from this area of the plot that no one cares about. Considering it was made by the same people who made the Sopranos, it was boring, contained several obvious inaccuracies, and simply wasn't what it was advertised to be. It was a big let down.
I watched the Many Saints, now I need an MRI on my groin and balls
Thoughts on the fact Mussolini was against the mafia and that the US used the Italian mafia to take down Mussolini? Or are you going to ignore this massive oversight?
Yeah, that just didn’t happen.
@@opaljk4835 operation underworld was a total fake!
@@MarcoGeeWS you made it sound like they had some kind of direct involvement in actually taking Mussolini down. But that’s not what that operation was. The Mafia in the US is not exactly the same as the mafia in Sicily…and the mafia in Sicily didn’t have anything to do with taking him down. So…what is it you’re trying to even get at in the first place?
@@opaljk4835 what are you trying to say? Was Mussolini pro mafia? Was the mafia pro Mussolini? And did the US use the mafia in American in operation underworld in efforts against Mussolini?
I thought I was the only other person that saw the beauty and the majesty in this movie! Thank you. Just wish people didn't Bash it just because it didn't live up to their thirst of wanting to see a mob story of Tony doing Tony things. I want more from David Chase, he is great but I'm not sure if I want anything else dealing with The Sopranos Story. It's a shame the at Chase doesn't own the property and it's up to HBO.
Anyways, 4$ a pound.
Beauty and Majesty? I'm a huge Sopranos fan and went into this movie expecting a movie. Well, it was a movie, one that sucked. It was boring, focused on a localized issue in the riots that simply couldn't carry a film, and the younger version of the series characters felt like bad impersonations. The only exception being Michael Gandolfini.
@@j.m.5744 The movie sucked, but cmon how can you not mention Vera Farmiga as young Livia? She was fantastic. I enjoyed John Bernthal as Johnny Boy but Joseph Siravo is still the best. The rest of the movie can fuck off.
@@j.m.5744genuinely one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Even if it wasn’t using the sopranos name that it bastardized it would still be hot garbage.
@@j.m.5744” localized issues” right, there were noooo other riots happening in the US around that time 😅
Needed to be a mini series, with fixed timelines, with christopher as a kid, with Tony's first kill, maybe we didn't need to hit all of the "oh they said this in the sopranos so we need to do it" stuff, but then it makes me ask why they hit the varsity athlete line which I thought was a tad pandery
The Wormy King returns with another great Vid
Strongly disagree with chrissy narating turned me off so I turned the movie off
Cry baby
THE MANY TAKES OT NEWARK!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought it felt rushed and wasn't sure what direction it wanted to go in. I didn't care for it. Although Michael Gandolfini was the one bright spot. He's got a great career ahead of him.
Great video. I really did not like this movie initially, but after hearing your prespective, I have a newfound appreciation for it. I think I'll watch it again with your points in mind. Thanks.
Awesome review. I watched it and felt let down. But I've liked it more, the more I've thought about it
I agreed with a lot of your points, and I do think that the movie is not nearly as bad as some people say it is. But, I cannot disagree more about the acting. The guy who played Junior had none of Dominic Chianese's charisma and Jon Bernthal was not impressive at all. And then there's Silvio.. I really hated how the guy seemed to be playing a cartoon character based on Silvio. I know that Stevie Van Zandt's Silvio is a bit of a caricature himself, but one would imagine that he developed those mannerisms over time. It seemed like Magaro was overdoing it wayyy too much and it almost ruined the movie for me. I can't emphasize how much I hated the way they portrayed Silvio. I usually love your videos, especially your Sopranos vids, but I cannot disagree more with you about some of the acting.. John Magaro was awful.
Excellent job thanks for posting a very very good view of everything and just in thoroughly enjoyed it
Damn you worms hole, very convincing video. I may need to re-watch the movie with a more open mind. also- I love your channel, I share your who killed tony soprano video with anyone who’ll listen.
I’m not saying anything new here, but the liberal take on black poverty that you touched on it perfectly expounded on in “Get Out”
20:05 "Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in"
Like Chrissy said to Paulie - I saw that movie , I thought it was bullshit
Interesting take on 'Mother's Little Helper.' I thought Tony was about to say 'It's about getting old,' but stopped himself because he knew it would make things worse.
The Mvss line doesn't make any sense
He literally tried to kick LCN out of Sicily
you made me love this movie
This why I am happy to be a paying subscriber.
The German Nazis didnt suddenly drop all their nazi beliefs after WW2 and pretend that they were never nazis in the first place. They might have denied supporting him to avoid being prosecuted, but they didnt do it out of shame or embarrassment or anything like that. Most were fiercely loyal Nazis right up until their dying day, decades after the war. Deradicalization is a long and difficult process. And if someone DOES turn against the fascist movement, that's a good thing. Not something to be sneered at. They might be embarrassed of their past and want to keep it to themselves. Thats reasonable enough.
Thinking Christopher narrating from beyond that grave was a good move made me stop listening to this already frustrating video. That choice contradicts the ending and so many of the themes surrounding death that that original show establishes. It was so beyond corny and this whole movie was a useless meandering mess with social and political commentary completely irrelevant to what a Sopranos prequel should even be focused on
You didn't understand the series.
@@TheWormsHole I did and I also understand proper pacing and character development that this film completely lacked, not to mention the countless continuity errors
You missed the point about Tony talking about how his dads thing was dignified, tight knit, reliable, honorable.
This is how most kids view their parents and grandparents when they get to be their parents age.
Also Tony saw a completely different world as a kid, like all kids. As you get older, your knowledge about how the world actually works increases and with increased knowledge, becomes increased stress, burden and despair, you begin looking at your once bright and interesting world as disgusting and evil and the people around you as different, no morals, not honorable, like you remember about your parents era.
You should have left that part out of your video, because you completely missed the point of what Tony saw, felt, and remembers as a kid and seeing his dad's thing operate.
Sal as a surrogate father figure - he literally has the same face as his real father ;)
R.I.P Liotta 😞
Yah I don't really get the whole white rage thing. I mean we must have watched different movies, and I believe the excess rage and violence is obviously a symptom of It being a TV show about the Mob and violence and rage are good plot motivators and entertaining to watch.
I really don't believe white rage is a thing, because every race gets enraged and upset. I just think you hate white people and are trying to twist reality to fit into ideology and your world view instead of shaping your world view by reality. I mean the whole idea that individuals fail to succeed based entirely off of systemic oppression doesn't track with many real world examples and is harmful to the individuals themselves. Your robbing them of personal responsibility and literally stealing their hope by instilling the poisonous idea that success is inaccessible to those who started in essentially poverty. As someone who has overcome homelessness, disabilities, discrimination, poverty, and has lived in majority African American areas of extreme poverty I have seen first hand the effect that culture can have on success.
The ironic factor is that possibly the most racist group of people, rednecks share striking similarities with the poverty stricken African Americans of inner cities in important cultural aspects. Both are more likely to fall back on government programs, have improper ways of speaking, have low trust in government and police, have higher rates of violence and a respect for violence, have higher acceptance of teenage pregnancy, have a deep pride for their culture, and Have an extreme disdain for traditional educational routes. These cultural factor's don't have roots in slavery, but have roots in all of southern culture inside the antebellum south. Prior to modern times inside of the south extreme violence, disdain for education, sexual immorality, and a deep pride for the culture of this time period were common place in the south. I read one account for this time period where white southern men would routinely fight "rough and tumble" which involving stabbing, eye gouging, ripping off of the testicles and biting. Despite the fact that dueling became illegal in this time period after already being illegal up north for 30 years men would routinely duel over honor, women, disrespect, and These men would face no jail time for these actions with southern juries unable to convict men for these crimes for if their honor had been insulted they would do the same. Famously men in this time period would impregnate unmarried women and be forced to marry them over the barrel of a shotgun before she started to seriously show.
Honestly I believe rap music is the perfect example of how every single negative and terrible aspect of ghetto culture is not only common place, but revered. Violence, drug use, confrontations with cops, lack of education, fucking bitches, and selling drugs are Romanized in these songs.
similarly in country music negative aspects of redneck culture are highly valued with constantly drinking alcohol being the main one, almost every single song contains many verses about drinking, having sex with women when your both very young, and blue collar work being another negative aspect of country music. Not because their is something wrong with blue collar work, but because it represents a general attitude of lack of value being placed on education.
I earlier mentioned real world examples and I wasn't talking about individuals in these groups referred to above, because those individuals could easily be explained by being far outside the bell curve. I am talking about the Chinese immigrants in Indonesia, the Armenian populations in Lebanon, Korean immigrants in America, Jewish immigrants inside pre ww2 Europe. All of these groups have several things in common extreme discrimination With the Chinese immigrants in Indonesia not being allowed to hold certain jobs, live in certain neighborhoods, having economic preference given to the native Indonesians, and facing racial violence on multiple occasions including lynching's. Regardless of this discrimination all of the above groups had three distinct traits that lead them to ultimately overcome discrimination and rise to be a wealthy minority inside every single nation mentioned above. The first is a high value placed on education to the point where parent's would sacrifice everything in order to send their children to college and achieving success meant becoming a doctor or a engineer or a lawyer. Secondly despite facing discrimination under the law and from peace officers they had an intense sense of lawful behavior with violence and crime in general being highly shunned within the community. Finally they had a strong middleman culture and mercantile culture with many of these immigrants sacrificing everything not only for their business but family businesses as well .
The number one factor for success of a ethnic group is not some imaginary privileges, but rather the value their culture places on education.
“Most people want to change the world to improve their lives, but the world they need to change first is the one inside themselves.”- John C. Maxwell
The result of telling oppresed individuals that they cannot succeed
Guy trying to make his twitter-poisoned paranoia about 'reactionaries' sound big and important cant even use the words 'objectively' 'designed' right 😂
I think a lot of your extrapolations are probably correct but my issue is just how much you have to extrapolate. Nothing is set up. We never see Dickie's mother being abused and it's not gestured at in any way, Dickie just says it, so him killing his father over that just seems odd because we don't feel that rage that he has at that moment. We don't really feel anything as far as the relationship between those two characters goes, and that's a problem throughout the film for me. Nothing is very fleshed out. Are people really this impulsive and hot-blooded in real life? I'm sure of it, but they don't make for compelling characters in a movie because we can't make sense of what they do, and I think that's important, even when we don't agree with their actions. In the end Dickie is just a hothead, who will kill or maim on a hair-trigger which would be fine for a more minor character but as our protagonist? Didn't make it for me.
But, like I said, I think a lot of your analysis is good, particularly about what the movie is telling us RE: the racial attitudes of the people involved. Like the course correction everyone seems to take when history doesn't go their way. The monstrous views remain. Good stuff as always.
You bring some valid points and generally speaking from other videos of yours that i've seen i can gather that you are a kind guy of a very benevolent nature, who more often than not tries not to be very agressive or critize too much whenever you make an assesment of anything. And i can empathize with that.
That being said, this movie is horrible no matter from which perspective you try to approach it. And i dont think this is gratuitous. I've read in several places that Chase has rejected time after time to make any more Sopranos-related shows or movies. Thats understandable cause the show is whole as it is, and adding anything new to it would only function as fan service but on the other hand it would be a BIG disservice to the show itself. And this has been made abundantly clear now.
It is my understanding that Chase has been trying to make a movie about the Newark racial riots for a long time now. But apparently, many producers and investors would only give the Ok to the project if a great chunk of the movie featured a narrative revolving on the Sopranos, feeling that that would be the only way to make it profitable and marketeable to the fans.
My personal take on this is that the whole thing is a trollish installment. Its an antic, a "fuck you" directed on the industry and on any fans yearning for more Sopranos contents. I cannot conceive that Chase, as brilliant, creative, subtle and genius that the is, wouldn't have created such a ridiculous, soulless, unartistic, depth-lacking film if not to demonstrate that even the notion of another Sopranos flick is completely absurd. I mean, just look at the ending of the Sopranos!! Its a total subversion of classic storytelling. Why would the author of such a masterpiece participate in its desecration. Chase is trolling everybody; thats the only way i can see this movie as a brilliant creation. The only purpose it can have for it to be considered good.
This movie is literally a joke in itself. There's no other way of explaining David Chase taking such a humongous shit on his own work. Either that or he is completely demented.
Just realized this guys profile pic looks like a soijack but like he's doing it on purpose so it's not as bad
Outstanding video. Seems like everyone rushed to shit all over this film when it first came out and yes it’s not executed nearly as well as the series is and probably would’ve been better served had it been a mini series to flesh out everyone’s arcs more organically. But Even tho it’s information overload in some ways I still found it to be enjoyable and consistent with their future selves and exploring certain elements from characters we’d heard about but never seen.
this was totally a cash grab movie, leave it to another RUclipsr to tell you this was good WOKE MOVIES
@memes and funny stuff naw dawg your Movie appreciation degree doesn’t make 1960s Italians greet an African American entering there club , and many other subtle way the film made itself look like a dickhead , go talk with a girl with all that
Completely disagree with you.
Great channel. Why do you put a warning about violence,etc?
One little note: Mothers Little Helper isn’t about Valium to get through the day but rather Adderall or amphetamines. I know it’s stupid to point that out but I think it matters because Valium is more used to drop out and amphetamines are more for “…to help them get through there busy day”…the lyrics do also say “…you can tranquilize your mind” but if you’ve ever taken adderall for an extended period of time then it does exactly that. But damn man once again you hit it out the park. I fuckin love your videos!!
Just look it up. Its about Valium. I know what u mean, I have both of them here. But the slogan doesn't have anything to do with the effects.
This guy should be teaching film and philosophy at an Ivy League level.
1:51 it does reveal what happened to Tony. the exact same thing which happened to dickie..except dickie's was 6 o clock, not 3.
Really great analysis here
Watched it. Didn’t like it. Watched this video. Now I like it. Thanks!
If HAROLD was the first guy Tony kills (The Bookie) MAY BE I would have liked the movie a bit more... That little discrepancy PISSED ME OFF!
You say the movie doesn't forgive but, if 'we're all the way life makes us' then don't we all deserve forgiveness?
This may have been covered previously, but im confused about Christopher's mother? I know its Joanne in the series, but in the movie Dicky kills his wife, (Chris's mother) was that his biological mum all along? And Joanne is his adopted mother?
The take I was waiting for, every review I just keep seeing the word "woke" used to tarnish the movie and suggest it has been ruined. When race and the hypocrisy of former immigrants was addressed on so many levels in the show but done with more nuance as the format allowed for that. Again, great video.
You and I had very different interpretations of the scene in the principal's office. There are many ways a mother can show care and tenderness without getting into bed with and snuggling up to her son. Toxic mothers tend to romanticize their relationships with their sons, and while the incident may not have counted as molestation, I believe it would have warped their relationship. The boy's father was away. Would she have done it with Johnny there? Did she deny having even read the book because she knew the story would reveal her inappropriate behaviour? Or did she genuinely forget, because the action was meant to remedy her own loneliness? Either way, it would explain her and Tony's relationship, and Tony's attitudes toward sex and women, in-general. Even though it was a warm memory for Tony, I thought this was fucked.
Ha I watched this with my mom and dad while on vacation (all big Sopranos viewers) and 100% this is how my mom reacted to that line...she had the exact same sentiment.
The title made me chuckle
Yes! So many people were so unhappy with the film, but I thought it was great ♡
If you thought it was good than you need to go back to your SpongeBob dvd collection. The movie was garbage.
@@rman52 lmaooo god i miss my old dvd/vhs collection. Good idea, will revisit 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Damn it finally came out!
While I appreciate your analysis and love your videos, I paused at 30 seconds in to write this comment and just correct you, in the nicest possible way, as a long time Sopranos fan who thinks it is the greatest piece of pop culture created and consumed in this century (I know it started in the last one), but the Many Saints of Newark was an absolutely terrible movie. Just God awful. From the coloration (why is it so gray and misty in Newark--it looks like the movie is set in Seattle) to Tony pinkie-swearing with a corpse...this was just...bad. It was bad. I'm sorry. I said it! It was bad. Watching it didn't even feel like something from real life; when it was over I felt like I had a bad dream--a bad dream featuring some bizarro world version of characters from The Sopranos.
*insert Barbara soprano’s husband quote: “here here”
I enjoyed this video but the main problem with this movie was pacing. It was really too jammed up in the last 30 mins. Give us more of the time of Tony and Dickie apart. Make it hard for us to live with too. It died on the vine.
It closes the circle?? It left more questions than answers 😅
Very good
Oh cmon man the movie was just nonsense.
I know, I'm late to the gabagool party, but it is what it is and that's that. This should have been a series. A whole season with built up with the riots in the middle. Yeah, I wouldn't use Michael Gandolfini till the middle. Because in the first part is just a little kid trying to understand what is happening around him. So we could have more shit about Dickie Moltisanti and Harrold doing business and being friendly, maybe buddies even, while in front of the other Dagos Dickie treats him differently. I like how you put focus on Dickie's pseudo progessive act. The story beats can be the same, but they need to be flashed out more. Why not having Dickie hunting down that crew, like mentioned in the show? (Not alone, he does it with Harrold for some reason, but people pretend he did it alone or something) And when the riots come, maybe the mobster could ally with Anthony Imperiale in some way. Mobster always pretend to be for order in the neighbourhood, and values and all that. Another Soprano channel had nice ideas how to include Sellman and Maurice into the riot storyline. The Riots should be at least two episodes. In the movie it's rushed. Just like the killing of Hollywood Dick Moltisanti and taking care of the body. Felt so out of place. Specially because the deaths connected to the real Riots are counted, let's say. Felt strange to have a dead mobster added on the fictional list, and nobody cares? No consequences? It's the mafia! Maybe Dickie could blame one member of Harrold's crew or something. The looks Hollywood Dick gave Harrold, maybe they could have a scene where he is openly racist to him or one of his guys. And Sil shouldn't be that established already. No need for him and Jackie to rob a card game with lil' Punk Tone at that point. Richie should be around, maybe giving Jackie shit after the ice cream truck stunt he pulled with Artie and Tone. Jackie shouldn't call Tone 'Joe Jerkoff'. That's more a Ralphie thing to do. And Carmella should be on Dickie's radar. They are related. I don't know. Better a show than a prequel movie that might ruin all chances to get another show.
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Tony didn't Die. Too obvious. He was indicted after Carlo flipped and got 12 years.
It's too obvious because it's true.
14:05 r u sure she’s not Carmella 😮
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