'Nobody believes the growth numbers' - Desmond Shum on how Xi Jinping destroyed the Chinese economy

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 73

  • @williamb7246
    @williamb7246 Месяц назад +24

    Ah the chinese bots are well and truly alive on this video 😂 they're not even subtle anymore

    • @pablosskates7067
      @pablosskates7067 Месяц назад +3

      @@williamb7246 they’re not as prolific as they used to be. In fact they are tamer and significantly smaller in numbers these days. I think it’s a combination of a reducing propaganda budget due to being broke and people losing the passion to fight for a country they now realise has been lying to them forever. The veil is coming down and they see it too.

    • @amunra5330
      @amunra5330 Месяц назад +3

      And why should they? Western countries are detaining anyone critical of Israel. Gimme a break with this high and mighty attitude .

    • @johnwatkin9548
      @johnwatkin9548 24 дня назад +1

      @@amunra5330 Really? So those tens of thousands of people at those massive protests all over the west have all been arrested? Or those people I regularly see on BBC News Night being critical of Israel, were the police waiting outside the studio to detain them after the program ended?
      Suggesting Western governments and media have been biased when it comes to the Israel/Palestine situation is one thing but how can anyone take someone who makes such ridiculously exaggerated statements seriously?

    • @GeopoliticsExpert2030
      @GeopoliticsExpert2030 22 дня назад +1

      90% comments here are ccp bots because RUclips is owned by ccp

  • @stephenh4939
    @stephenh4939 Месяц назад +6

    Fascinating interview. I particularly enjoyed Desmond's observation that a Gweilo "could never have found out secret financial information, in China"

  • @cooper1819
    @cooper1819 Месяц назад +3

    Got to look at the overall outcome to address corruption that was widespread in China those days.
    Corruption had always brought down many Chinese dynasties including the last Qing dynasty. It’s always very grey on Chinese corruption because wealth is often hidden and though relationships.

  • @DonRua
    @DonRua Месяц назад +10

    It's widely acknowledged that metrics and information released by the CCP are often questionable, and this interview confirms that. Regardless of the reasons, I commend Mr. Shum for stepping forward. It takes real courage to challenge such a powerful entity. I'm surprised his story hasn't gained more mainstream attention. As he said, "This is history," and it should be easily accessible to anyone who wants to know. I wish Mr. Shum all the best.
    PS: now, is this gonna get me in trouble under article 23 and the new global security law? lol

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment Месяц назад +3

      Speaking out kept him alive by helping him stay in the Western radar. The guy sold his conscience for wealth. He admitted it. Now that he had a son to protect and a lot of dangerous enemies who rule a superpower, he needs another superpower protection.
      I like his expose, but let's not pretend that it is anything other than self-interest and self-preservation. He did not pretend otherwise.

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 Месяц назад

      It is fashionable to do this ... there is a share of the $1.5 billion after all

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 Месяц назад

      But i wont buy the crappy book

  • @reneprovosty7032
    @reneprovosty7032 Месяц назад +3

    do not confuse yourself, you cannot reward innovation if you do not allow the winners to retain their own wealth. Then smart people will leave.

  • @amunra5330
    @amunra5330 Месяц назад +3

    Oh did you guys get your check from the US State Department?

  • @aldrichshao29
    @aldrichshao29 Месяц назад +4

    Wish you all best

  • @RonanTOC
    @RonanTOC Месяц назад

    Interesting conversation

  • @gemox3225
    @gemox3225 Месяц назад +1

    I'm interested in reading his book. I spent 9 years in Mainland China myself, as a teacher.

  • @kalloh5519
    @kalloh5519 Месяц назад

    please have this guest on more often, finally the truth behind the veil of the ccp

  • @DanielvanderKlooster-gv8mj
    @DanielvanderKlooster-gv8mj Месяц назад

    Question: Could this economic decline under Xi Jingping have something to do with the very fast military buildup in order to modernize and improve the PLC?

  • @tengchuankhoo6585
    @tengchuankhoo6585 Месяц назад +5

    The Brits have a long and, rightly so, great history of story telling - from Shakespeare to Hardy and Tolkien. However selective listening and spinning can often end badly. So one question - if China economic numbers are so bad, why is it so dominant in commodity markets, EV, solar, heavy equipment, etc.

    • @pablosskates7067
      @pablosskates7067 Месяц назад +5

      Points to industries that are heavily subsidized as proof.
      And in the same breath, will argue tooth and nail this isn’t happening. GG wumao. GG.

    • @Kevin-fq3zh
      @Kevin-fq3zh Месяц назад +1

      @@pablosskates7067 excellent response, right on point!! 👍🏻

    • @Andy-P
      @Andy-P Месяц назад

      @@tengchuankhoo6585 debt and not doing enough 'internal circulation'

    • @ZhenYae
      @ZhenYae Месяц назад

      @@pablosskates7067 Not stealing from others like the West. Subsidised by their loot from former colonies..

  • @ZhenYae
    @ZhenYae Месяц назад +4

    Ok. The global majority does not buy into Western BS.

  • @tupaiking9136
    @tupaiking9136 Месяц назад

    Really got to turn on the subtitles when hearing this Mainlander speaks 🤦.

  • @denisdufresne5338
    @denisdufresne5338 Месяц назад

    Please divide your video in different subjects, this way we could watch the subject we like instead of wasting our time on non interesting subject and make us leave your video.

  • @antndecks
    @antndecks Месяц назад

    Timetstamps

  • @TarulWarlord
    @TarulWarlord Месяц назад +1

    Was "disappeared"?
    What kind of English is that? Can you or anyone pass their English language test using such pharases?

    • @DonRua
      @DonRua Месяц назад +1

      AI reply, not me - The phrase "was disappeared" typically implies that someone vanished under mysterious or unexplained circumstances, often suggesting that external forces were involved.
      “Was made to be disappeared” is the same thing but more straight forward.

    • @johnheaton5058
      @johnheaton5058 Месяц назад +2

      It's perfectly acceptable...and often used in this context.

  • @guff9567
    @guff9567 Месяц назад +2

    Desmond did her in himself

  • @chrisohanlon69
    @chrisohanlon69 Месяц назад +5

    What about Sam Melia, was disappeared by the UK regime?

    • @hawklord100
      @hawklord100 Месяц назад

      oh... that racist thug who tried pathetic incitment of hatred.... good riddence to bad S&^%$

    • @Andy-P
      @Andy-P Месяц назад

      The Far right organiser was found quilty of disturbing disturbing material and racial hatred. A bit like how CCP state press describes America and Taiwan

    • @Kevin-fq3zh
      @Kevin-fq3zh Месяц назад +1

      whataboutism lol

    • @chrisohanlon69
      @chrisohanlon69 Месяц назад +1

      @Kevin-fq3zh well what about it, eh?

  • @Hdksbdidn
    @Hdksbdidn Месяц назад +6

    This guy is nothing but a opportunist, there’s no such thing as loyalty in his dictionary

    • @DonRua
      @DonRua Месяц назад +2

      Yes and No. We are all opportunist to some extend. But the REAL Opportunists are quick to evaluate cost and benefit. He and his wife were used to send a msg. By speaking out, he is asking for an “all out”
      War against him or anybody close to him. That is totally out of character of a real opportunist.

    • @segbwemabee5757
      @segbwemabee5757 Месяц назад +2

      I'm currently reading his book. He was part of a corrupt political system doing business. When his luck ran out, he cut and ran.

    • @Andy-P
      @Andy-P Месяц назад

      Being Chinese means having to be loyal to the CCP?

    • @Hdksbdidn
      @Hdksbdidn Месяц назад +1

      @@Andy-P of course not. But of course he claimed to be loyal to ccp so he can get into the power center of ccp.

  • @zhpprojmang
    @zhpprojmang Месяц назад +1

    Not sure about facts. Vague on wedding, vague 10 or 15 years of business. Just saying

  • @stevetaylor20
    @stevetaylor20 Месяц назад +3

    Julian Assange... Disappeared by the west

    • @heckmacbuff
      @heckmacbuff Месяц назад +1

      Everybody knew exactly where he was, and where he is now.

    • @stevetaylor20
      @stevetaylor20 Месяц назад +1

      @@heckmacbuff lol. So because we knew he was in jail that changes everything. If they'd have hidden him away in a secure jail, that wouldn't have been OK. Lol

    • @heckmacbuff
      @heckmacbuff Месяц назад +2

      @@stevetaylor20 just making the point that it is a totally different concept. But I'm sure you understand really.

    • @stevetaylor20
      @stevetaylor20 Месяц назад

      @@heckmacbuff you're right I mean China are bad and America are amazing. I can't believe I didn't realise how the west are amazing and China are evil. Western governments don't do anything like what China do, we should aspire to be like western countries.

    • @stevetaylor20
      @stevetaylor20 Месяц назад

      @@heckmacbuff I'm self harming right now. I realise the error of my ways. I can only apologise to you and offer my life in return

  • @bukitbatok7332
    @bukitbatok7332 Месяц назад

    The more he talks, the more he looks like pinnocio.

  • @mohanchandra8987
    @mohanchandra8987 Месяц назад

    what a load of crap!!!!

  • @keefooyuen1487
    @keefooyuen1487 Месяц назад

    Talking nonsense

  • @gemox3225
    @gemox3225 Месяц назад

    Btw, you can't say "someone was disappeared" in English. It's a corruption of the English language.

    • @noah6825
      @noah6825 Месяц назад +8

      it's not a random grammatical blunder, it's a well-known usage in reference to people who have been kidnapped by their governments and detained or killed. it would not be correct to simply say 'she disappeared' in this context, as though she just went missing - that isn't what happened, the disappearing was done to her. Thus you get the twist on the verb. I imagine it comes from the south american context, where you also have the noun form 'desaparecidos' - 'the disappeared'.

    • @DonRua
      @DonRua Месяц назад

      @@noah6825you expect a grade 4 child to understand Oxford English? lol

    • @johnheaton5058
      @johnheaton5058 Месяц назад +1

      Actually, you can...

    • @Mattsta2010
      @Mattsta2010 Месяц назад +1

      @@gemox3225 go and look up "passives" in your english grammar reference book.